I've made 9 topics today, and I figured this would be a nice choice for the tenth one. Good night, guys.

Stats websites:

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k4.com/displaytable.php

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/extrapolated.php

Summer 2002 Extrapotated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k2_extrapolated.htm

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/sc2k3_extrapolated.htm

Character comparisons Between Summer 2002 and Summer 2003:
http://sc2k4.com/summer_comparisons.php

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated.htm

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

Stats topics:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm

MMXcalibur's Prophet Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

Poll Vote Total Updator:
http://sc2k4.com/update.php (add "?pollid=[4-digit poll number]" at the end of url to look at charts from past polls)

Summer 2002 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=15&page=2

Summer 2003 Match Pictures:
www.angelfire.com/games5/heroicmario0/contestpictures.htm

Spring 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=2
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=17&page=3

Summer 2004 Match Pictures:
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=1
http://sc2k4.com/frog/view.php?gid=18&page=2

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

A little early, but whatever...

Vivi is doing REALLY well. Thats SFF for you...
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SC2k4 Score: 47/54 Todays Pick: Sephy over Vivi
My Mistakes: Shadow, Kefka, Gordon, Luigi, Kefka

Eh, I've been making the topics at around this point ever since the last fiasco. We're averaging around a topic per day, if you haven't noticed.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

You're right, I haven't really noticed. I usually come on only at night or early in the morning before I leave for classes, then work, then the gym...

I don't think this performance by Vivi indicates a loss of popularity for Sephy. It just indicates that Vivi is much, much stronger than Vyse, which we probably should have guessed already.

Sephy, for all sakes and purposes, is equal to Cloud in terms of contest strength when they're up against characters other than each other. I'd expect Cloud to get exactly this against Vivi, or maybe only slightly better.

And if you think about it, and take into consideration the fact that the day vote will lower Vivi's percentage, this really just means that Vivi = Auron. Auron got something like 28% against Cloud, and I'd expect Vivi to end up around that range too.

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The fact that Frog isn't voiced by Cam Clarke should be worth an automatic one-hundred vote penalty, dammit..

*tag* And I don't think Sephiroth is going to gain 3 full percentage during the day...
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Anxiously awaiting... SONIC vs. ryu

Well, what do you know? Another statistic irregularity involving Sephiroth. His first attempt at SFF ownage, and he fails to capitalize. And to top it all of, he's underperforming.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Sephy is expected to get 71%, and he'll have no problems reaching it. I wouldn't say he's underperforming.

Besides, what's so bad about seeing Vivi do well? =)
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Vivi is much, much stronger than Vyse,

Yup, Vyse got doubled by DK. Vivi won over that Kong dude.

Vivi>DK>>>>Vyse in this contest.
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I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." .52/54

Well, if Vivi can hold Sephiroth under 70% then I would consider that an underperformance because none of us saw that coming. Perhaps there's something about the little black mage that is un-SFF-able.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I really don't think SFF applies to characters from different FF games because each Final Fantasy takes place in its own world and is a totally different experience (at least storywise) than the preceding games.

In other words, Crono and Magus have the exact same fanbase, Link and Ganondorf have the exact same fanbase, Mario and Bowser have the exact same fanbase, but Vivi and Sephiroth have slightly different fanbases. There are a lot of Squaresoft fans out there who love FF7 and hate FF9. On the flipside, many out there love FF9 and hate FF7.

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The fact that Frog isn't voiced by Cam Clarke should be worth an automatic one-hundred vote penalty, dammit..

I notice that someone has already made part 61.

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I am Lucid Faia.

Which would, for the record, clear up the inconsistency of Cloud VS Auron, which probably didn't suffer from very much (if any) SFF at all. Auron got 28% or so and that's probably what he deserved within a percentage point.

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The fact that Frog isn't voiced by Cam Clarke should be worth an automatic one-hundred vote penalty, dammit..

Yep, and it's a mystery why he has not been thrashed to holy hell by Ulti yet.

Um, can we please keep discussion on part 59 for now? It's still far from full, you know.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 052/054 - Matches: 41/43 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sephiroth - Tomorrow: Sonic

I really don't think SFF applies to characters from different FF games because each Final Fantasy takes place in its own world and is a totally different experience (at least storywise) than the preceding games.

Cloud vs. Auron.

Final Fantasy is still a series even though all the games are different. There are massive favorites among the fanbase, primarily Cloud and Sephiroth.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Already answered that question, silly. ~_^

As if Auron VS Ness isn't enough evidence. Auron underperformed, but he didn't really underperform. His 28% or so against Cloud seems more and more legitmate, and less and less much affected by SFF.

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The fact that Frog isn't voiced by Cam Clarke should be worth an automatic one-hundred vote penalty, dammit..

I just hope Auron can put up some respectable numbers against Sephy. It's a rabid pipe dream of mine that he might win, but that's really just a deluded fantasy on this site. But if he can break 30%, I'll be happy enough...ecstatic if he can get around 35%. After all, its the mighty Clinkeroth we're talking about here.

But this is just the ravings of a rabid Auron fan, so pay no mind to my feverent wishes. I'm with smitelf, Auron rules. If it were up to me it'd be him in the finals against Link, not one of the angsty pretty-boy duo of Cloud and Sephy.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

Strange how you sound so much like me before the Mega Man-Tidus match.

Thankfully, I'll be right yet again. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

time to use this topic.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

Yeah, Leonhart has Sonic over Samus. Other than that, our brackets are the same.

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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Leonhart: What do you mean NEED it? Do you have Sonic over Samus?

Yes, I do. Seemed like a smart upset pick at the time. If Sonic can put up a great performance against Ryu, my faith will be restored.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Vivi 30% 22729
Sephiroth 70% 53046

Sniffle...come on, Vivi!
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

Heroic, you are predicting Ryu will win right? *glares* Riiight?!?!

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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Sephiroth just broke 70%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

you know, I think next year Yuffie should be in the contest.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

So Leonhart is going to lose that.

Tommorow will be VERY interesting. If Sonic does not do well, I think we can officially cut the noble nine by two as Samus raising kills that bridge between the top and bottom.

Vivi held Sephiroth under 70% for nearly the entire poll. Admirable performance, if I do say so myself.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

We know Sonic will win. Its just a matter of pride for HM and Ryu.

Although you know it would be different if it were Ken.
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Summer Contest Match 42 Sephiroth vs. Vivi
Status 40/43 Points: 051 Next: Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Ryu

Sephiroth just broke 70%.

*cries*
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Yuffie shouldn't touch this contest.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I don't plan on losing that one.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

how well do you guys think Yuffie would do? Is there a lot of hate for her?
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

We know Sonic will win.

I beg to differ. We don't KNOW anything, barring time travel.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

I think Yuffie would perform around the level of someone like Yuna, probably lower than that.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Ludwig, Yuffie??

Okay in FFVII the strength of characters is as follows:

Cloud
Sephiroth
Aeris
Vincent
Red XIII
Tifa
Barrett
Cid

then arguably Tseng and his crew, Zack, and maybe even Cait-Sith is stronger than Yuffie.

It's a figure of speech, MasterMage. I guess if you want to be precise I'd call it more of a "foregone conclusion."
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Summer Contest Match 42 Sephiroth vs. Vivi
Status 40/43 Points: 051 Next: Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Ryu

Sonic will beat Ryu and Samus will beat Sonic and we'll all (and by "we'll all" I mean "I") live happily ever after.

Until Mega Man wins the whole thing and then Heroic Mario will truly be the happiest of the happy.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

Cloud
Sephiroth
Aeris
Vincent
Red XIII
Tifa
Barrett
Cid

I would put Tifa and Cid above Red XIII, personally.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

It's a figure of speech, MasterMage. I guess if you want to be precise I'd call it more of a "foregone conclusion."

Well I DO come from the future and I saw that Ryu won by about 100 votes.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

That's only one of infinite futures which will never come to pass.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I dont know. A lot of people really like Red XIII.

But my point was. Vincent and Aeris should be in the contest way way way way before Yuffie ever sniffs it. Only way she will be if it expands to 256, as I dont even think she is strong enough for 128.

As of right now, I'd place the FF VII characters' contest strength as...

Cloud
Sephiroth
Aeris
Cid
Tifa
Red XIII
Barrett
Vincent
Yuffie
Hojo
Cait Sith
Any of the random named characters, such as the Turks and Rufus

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It's the battle of the "Bow"-men at www.rpgdl.com, as Bowman Jean faces the Hunting Clan's champion, Bo!

Ryu will get at least 43%. But that's not the match I'm looking forward too. I wanna see Dante/Tails so we can finally place Auron, Ness, Scorpion, Jak, and Tails in their rightful places in the XS. It's the circle of death that actually gets resolved this year. The other one, Kefka/Knux/(Snake?)/Luigi/Yoshi/Pac Man depends on Pac Man taking the biggest dive in contest history.
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

Well, regardless...I have a hard time believing that Cid falls below Barret on the FFVII ladder.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I literally just beat FF7 again last night....I shall rank the characters:

Cid: 7.5
Vincent: 9
Tifa: 8
Yuffie: 8.5 (I liked her....SWEET, Sweet Statutory!)
Barret: 7
Cloud: 5 (Never really liked him....he is ok, I guess...)
Aeris: 2 (Man I hated her)
Sephiroth: 8.5
Cait Sith: 4 (However....Reeves gets an 8)
Red XIII: 8.5
Zack: 8
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 48/50 (Yoshi) Pick: Squall

Yuffie: 8.5 (I liked her....SWEET, Sweet Statutory!)

What?! Yuffie was God awful...

Cloud: 5 (Never really liked him....he is ok, I guess...)

Your just liking/disliking the opposite of me...


Zack: 8

Rebound! Nice score. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Aeris beating Red XIII or Vincent? I don't see that going down...I bet she would get SFF'D upside the head...
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 48/50 (Yoshi) Pick: Squall

Doma. Vincent is probably a little under or as strong as Aeris.

As for Cid. Yeah, I might move him up a spot or two. But once again none of this way my point.

My point was Yuffie should NEVER be in this tourney. Too many good characters deserve it before her.

What about Mr. Ashley? He is from the BEST RPG since the SNES.

And for tonight, fully expect some damage from Ryu.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Maybe Aeris wouldn't beat Vincent, but I think she would almost surely beat Red XIII.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I've always said Red XIII would rank high up on both the FF7 list and character strength in general. Maybe not as high as Vincent would, but no doubt high.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I wouldn't see Red XIII any higher than 6th, behind Cloud, Sephiroth, Aeris, Vincent, and Tifa. He might even be behind Cid.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

*starts Fable*

Hmm, lets see here....this better not suck.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 48/50 (Yoshi) Pick: Squall

Can I ask a question, how well did Vagrant Story sell? I was wondering if there was any hope in the future for the protoganist of that game for a sequel or such.

Cid: 7.5

Why? My dad can swear better than he can, anyway. That's really his only claim to fame, IMO. I never got attached. 6.0

Vincent: 9

Hmm...maybe I just grade harsher than you do, because I quite liked Vincent, but I'd still only give him a 7.5

Tifa: 8

Why, because of her breasts? God, she was annoying. Not quite so bad as the flower ***** but still, good grief. 5.5, and she's probably be lower if Aeris wasn't so obnoxious.

Yuffie: 8.5 (I liked her....SWEET, Sweet Statutory!)

Yuffie sucked. Period. Boring, annoying, materia-stealing little brat. But she still wasn't Aeris. 5.0.

Barret: 7

Racial stereotypes bug me. 5.0.

Cloud: 5 (Never really liked him....he is ok, I guess...)

I give Cloud a 6.0. I didn't like him much, didn't dislike him much, just pretty much neutral toward him for most of the game, except when he was particularly whiny after a confrontation with Sephiroth.

Aeris: 2 (Man I hated her)

No, you didn't hate her. See, you gave her two whole points. My score for Aeris would be -17.6, because she's just that bad.

Sephiroth: 8.5

Finally we agree. He gets a 7.0 for character, +.5 for the coolness factor, and +1 for making 2/3rds of the game more enjoyable than they would have been otherwise.

Cait Sith: 4 (However....Reeves gets an 8)

Cait Sith was actually not such a bad character. I say 6.0, including the Reeves Factor,

Red XIII: 8.5

Why do so many people like this guy? I wanted to spear myself in the temple when I was playing through Cosmo Canyon; his story sucks. His character is mediocre. 5.5.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

*starts Fable*

Hmm, lets see here....this better not suck.

JEALOUSY'D
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

I'm so glad that Tifa is physically proportionate in Advent Children so people will quit holding that against her. Goodness, just because Square decided to make her so well-endowed doesn't detract from her character.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

In Advent Children, they took some off of Tifa and gave it to Aeris.

Vincent>Red XIII>Barret>Yuffie>Cait Sith>Tifa>Cid>Cloud>Sephiroth>Aeris
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Lonely Angel
Summer 2004 Contest Prediction: Match 45: Sonic the Hedgehog wins 60.35%-39.65%

I'm so glad that Tifa is physically proportionate in Advent Children so people will quit holding that against her. Goodness, just because Square decided to make her so well-endowed doesn't detract from her character.

No, her character detracts from her character. I didn't like her, period, with or without her melons. The fall-over sized breasts just made her funnier.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

Tag.

What about Mr. Ashley? He is from the BEST RPG since the SNES.

Mr. Riot, you mean.

Can I ask a question, how well did Vagrant Story sell? I was wondering if there was any hope in the future for the protoganist of that game for a sequel or such.

~260,000 copies, IIRC.

Tifa in general looks much better in Advent Children as opposed to Final Fantasy 7. Now, I already liked her character before, but we wait to see if she could get better through the movie.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I know what his last name is. :P

Well 260,000 isnt bad. But obviously not good enough sadly.

Too many skipped over this gem.

Vagrant Story... I loved the game but the story was sub par at best.
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See my writings at http://www.alexkaulfuss.com as the GrandioseGadfly
Fujin is the greatest character ever conceived by man.

Tifa in general looks much better in Advent Children as opposed to Final Fantasy 7. Now, I already liked her character before, but we wait to see if she could get better through the movie.

Personally, I'm watching the movie for one thing, and one thing only: the desperate hope that Sephiroth will make an appearance as more than a flashback. More Sephiroth = more good.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

Vagrant Story never got the recognition it deserved. That game was kick ass.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

smite.. you don't like xenogears or ff7... and you probably hate ff8 and 9 and X and most assuredly x-2... am i correct?
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.

Your hopes have been answered.

At Venice the end of the Advent Children showing was a scene with Cloud in it. He was a dual-sword wielding badass fighting against what looked like nothing but continuous rubble. He's flys upward slicing through the rocks like air until he comes to the core of the rubble to see Sephiroth creating the mess. Before the trailer shuts off Sephiroth says:

"I won't be just a memory."

So yes, Sephiroth is more than just a flashback. ;P
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

In fact, screw my description it sucked.

"The moment of truth close at hand, Cloud grabs a sword and leaps into the air, flying against the tumult of cinder blocks and girders that crash down upon him. As Cloud's oversized blade cuts through the rocks as if they were air, the first-ever showing of Final Fantasy VII Advent Children Special Edition draws to a close with a strange voice saying "I won't be just a memory" as the iconic Sephiroth explodes from the chaos, descending from amongst the falling debris to meet Cloud head on; a dramatic entry for Final Fantasy's darkest angel."
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

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smite.. you don't like xenogears or ff7... and you probably hate ff8 and 9 and X and most assuredly x-2... am i correct?

I hated Xenogears and liked Final Fantasy VII (just because I didn't like most of the characters doesn't mean I disliked the game as a whole). I thought FFVIII was okay, but certainly not one of my favorite RPGs or even one of my favorite Final Fantasy games. FFIX did not deserve to exist, and let us never speak of it again. Final Fantasy X is among my top ten RPGs. FFX-2 also did not deserve to exist, but it still deserved to exist more than FFIX did, just because it wasn't FFIX.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

you are much too harsh.. MUCH to harsh on great peices of work... or you have bad taste... .. well not bad taste but a different taste... like you enjoy clam chowder instead of vegetable stew... which is good.. but when you're served up the best vegetable stew around and someone throws the worst clam chowder at you.. you still take the chowder.. that kind of taste... it irks me
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.

Hm. I liked Tifa's fall-over sized breasts. They weren't a detraction in my opinion... Eh.. Maybe I'm a pervert. ^_^ Oh well.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

So yes, Sephiroth is more than just a flashback. ;P

Ah yes, I read one of those Venice reviews, but I forgot that part.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

What I cannot wait to see is the final death of Sephiroth. Cloud must take care of business in this movie.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Honestly, Sephiroth was probably the best thing going for FF7. The battle system I didn't really like too much but that first flashback where you have him in your party I thought he was awesome. I also like Red XIII but mainly because he looks like an awesome dog. Everyone let's face it dogs are the ****.

I liked FF7 as a whole, mostly for what it did to the genre but that is why I hate it as well.
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See my writings at http://www.alexkaulfuss.com as the GrandioseGadfly
Fujin is the greatest character ever conceived by man.

you are much too harsh.. MUCH to harsh on great peices of work... or you have bad taste... .. well not bad taste but a different taste... like you enjoy clam chowder instead of vegetable stew... which is good.. but when you're served up the best vegetable stew around and someone throws the worst clam chowder at you.. you still take the chowder.. that kind of taste... it irks me

Hmm? I have very good reasons for disliking those games I dislike. I've gone over FFIX too many times to count, and FFX-2 is self-explanatory. Xenogears makes me angry because it could have been so much better if they hadn't decided to throw away the last half of the game.

FFX, on the other hand, had a mostly non-annoying cast of characters (Tidus and Yuna notwithstanding, the rest weren't bad) and Auron, the best Final Fantasy character ever. The story was the best ever told in a Final Fantasy game (obviously, this is all in my opinion) and the gameplay was impressive. I loved the sphere grid. What else can I say?
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

hehe you can "SORRY... SORRY FOR RUINING YOUR DAY JEAL!!"
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.

Chaos Division: Round 2 - Match 45 – (1)Sonic vs. (9)Ryu

Moltar’s Analysis

Sonic - Princess Sally is pleased…in more ways that one.

Round 1 – vs. Terry (Sonic: 80.84% - Terry: 19.16%)

Sonic shows no signs of slowing down, in fact, it looks like he’s speeding up.

Ryu - Touch his baseball cards, and he’ll make you pay for it.

Round 1 – vs. KOS-MOS (Ryu: 62.13% - KOS-MOS: 37.87%)

Ryu beats KOS-MOS fairly easily. Can he pull the big upset against Sonic?

Alright, 2 more charcaters that have hung around since 2002. Back in those days, Sonic was a 1 seed in his Division. He beat his first 2 opponents, Pitfall Harry and Tidus with ease, and then came Ms. Aran. We all know about Sonic/Samus, and how it went down. Samus went on to beat the Hedgehog by a hair. Ryu was also in Sonic’s division, as a 4-seed. He took out CATS with ease, until he also faced Samus, only difference was that it was in Round 2. Ryu lost 58-42%. So Sonic did better in 2002 against Samus than Ryu did. Ok, now lets look at 2003.

Sonic was bumped down to a 2-seed, and faced Ken in Round 1. He got about 69% on the fighter, and moved on to face Zero. Sonic won again, in a much closer match, with Zero getting 47.66% on him. He then faced Aeris in the Sweet 16, and got 53% on Aeris. The hedgehog wasn’t looking too hot right now, and things were about to get bad. He had to face a pumped-up Cloud in the Elite 8. Cloud doubled up the hedgehog. Ouch, not good at all. Now onto Ryu, who was stuck in Snake’s Division with a 5-seed. He easily beat Nukem with 70%, and then faced Dante in Round 2. Ryu pulled up 54% on Dante, making him look quite impressive. The Street Fighter then moved on to Round 3 to face Snake. There he lost, getting 42% on the Stealth god.

This year, both have had nice Round 1 matches, Sonic getting 80%+ on Terry, showing an increase from his horrible last year, while Ryu is staying pretty much on the same level, get 62% on KOS-MOS. A lot of people are hoping for an upset here, but I just can’t see it. Sonic is looking good this year, and Ryu shouldn’t be able to match him. I expect him to put on another 58-42% performance against a 1-seed.


Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sonic will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Sonic 58% - Ryu 42%



Ulti's Analysis

Sonic's recent decline, paired with Ryu killing KOS-MOS, tripled with the Street Fighter Anniversary Collection, is causing more than a few people to think that Ryu has a chance in this match. Some people are even turning their votes just because it would be cool to see it happen. It goes to show you that we're desperate for a huge shakeup in this contest, no? I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't pee my pants from excitement at the thought of Ryu beating Sonic, but it simply won't happen. Ryu does have my vote, though.

Ulti's Bracket/Prediction - Sonic/Sonic with 56.39%

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Vivi vs. Sephiroth - Bracket: Seph - Vote: Seph (52/54)

I put up parts 57, 58, and 59.
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Oh, and Ulti, you have a link for "Stats Topics:" in your first post but there's nothing there. I'm assuming that should be a link to the Links page?
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Heh. I just had enjoyable memories of Part 30. I was lying when I said I had Ryu over Samus and MC over Snake. Then as I pretended to argue for my points I decided to put Ryu over Sonic and MC over Frog. Part 30 may be the bane of my tournament existance...
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Sonic should win with at least 55%.
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I say it will look like Samus vs. Ryu and Snake vs. Ryu
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Summer 2004 Contest 49/54 Sephiroth vs. Vivi

I think Ryu will be lucky to break 43%, myself.
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Sonic should win with at least 55%.

Well of course YOU'D say that.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

I think your all going to be terribly wrong once Ryu does at least 45%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I'm with Heroic Mario on this one, Ryu is a tough contender.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

Ya know, for first in command in the Ryu Army, you are displaying too LITTLE confidence for once HM. He won't get 45%, he'll get 51%!
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

I said "at least" for a reason Mage. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Ah, so you did ^_^
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Ryu is a tough contender, but Solid Snake got over 57% on him, and there's not much difference in strength between him and Sonic.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Solid Snake would get at LEAST 65% on Sonic. Don't listen to the evil extrapolateds. Shield your eyes from the blasphemy and listen to the mage.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Snake probably dropped like hell this year, Knuckles got 40% on him.
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Lonely Angel
Summer 2004 Contest Prediction: Match 45: Sonic the Hedgehog wins 60.35%-39.65%

....Are you trying to tell me that Knuckles is stronger than Sonic? If anything from the looks of this year, the Blue Blur is stronger than Snake.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I actually meant last year.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Again, are you trying to tell me that Knuckles is stronger than Sonic?
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Obviously.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

So Knuckles would have won a solid victory over Zero and Solid Snake was strong enough to contend for the championship last year?
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

You better believe it.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Right...Either you're delusional or you're just joking. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.

Well, Sephiroth has been steadily climbing in percentage with the night vote. He could end up around 70.5% or so.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

There's enough of a difference to make it so that Ryu does something tonight. You can discount SFAC because it's more recent, but make no mistake it's been around a decent enough time to do something and it wouldn't take a lot to affect the match.

Besides, that SFAC ad on GameFAQs just owns. =p I have faith in GameFAQs voters to make them vote for the better character in Ryu.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Master Chief is going to beat Frog by at least a 10% margin! *sucks thumb*
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

That'd put him at roughly what he'd be expected to get with no SFF.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Bwahahaha, Sonic Mega Collection will just cancel it out and then a little bit more.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Pssh. Not a chance, especially with SFAC being far superior.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

The voters obviously don't care about the superiority of a game if Dante can increase from DMC2. It's just about having enough time to get exposed.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

SFAC probably WILL have a noticable effect. And I'm not joking now either.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Yeah, it will...Next year once it's been out long enough and the XBox crowd has gotten its hands on it.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

And the recency of two weeks is bound to affect their minds. If you played SMC some two years ago or SFAC two weeks ago they have to be more inclined to vote for the legendary street fighter himself.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

SMC had Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine AND S3&K.

SMC >>> Dr.RMBM > SFAC
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Well that doesn't help me. I mean here and now.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

I'm buying an Xbox solely for SFAC... and Halo 2 I suppose, but dominantly SFAC. Online Street Fighter = Heaven.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

SFAC has 3rd Strike. The greatest fighting game out, that alone makes it superior. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Same here. Well okay, I already have an XBox with live... But I'm buying SFAC solely for SFAC!
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Not that it's relevant at all, but I wouldn't call SFAC superior to Sonic Collection. But that's more a game preference problem than anything.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

The recency factor is only significant if it's had enough time to get into the hands of enough people. I just don't think 2 weeks is enough time to make a noticeable difference.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Yeah...SFAC has Third Strike. That definately puts it over any gaming compilation I can think of (especially MMAC).

And I doubt Sonic Mega Collection will help Sonic, unless Sega bites the bullet and adds Sonic CD to Sonic Mega Collection Plus.

Two weeks is plenty of time.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

I think it's had some time, maybe not to get the full effect but to do something...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Plenty of time to get your hopes up.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

But not to the point where it'll overpower anything Sonic got from the Mega Collection.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Everyone I've talked to has said that the controls on SFAC are worse than they were in earlier releases, and that it really hurts the game. Not that it'll stop many people including me from at least renting it.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

Sure it will. I don't think Sonic even benefited from SMC, but once people play 3rd Strike... wow they better vote Ryu if only because of a game he's in. ;p

When it comes to gaming compilations though, nothing beats MMAC.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Well I doubt that would make them dislike it anyway. And the controls will be fine on the XBox version which is what I plan to get.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Okay, so only being released on one system hurts Sonic to the point where he can't gain from it, but it helps Ryu?
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

When it comes to gaming compilations though, nothing beats MMAC.

Super Mario All-Stars + SMW + YI > MMAC

I'd say LoZ:CE, but there was no Link to the Past.
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

Sonic is an icon and Ryu is an awesome character. It's a tough match but Ryu is past his time and Sonic left a big enough impact the be memorable for the common voter. It'll be close and I send much respect to mastermage for having the balls to pick the upset.
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I wish LOZ: CE had, had LTTP... Excluding arguably the best Zelda is just stupid...
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

I have an explanation for you on that, but I'm off to sleep so I'll hold out until tomorrow on the reason.

But like I said, MMAC > any other gaming compilation. ;) Out MMAC, SMA, SMC, SFAC, and LoZ, I'd put the Zelda one at the end being just one step ahead of SMC.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Okay, so only being released on one system hurts Sonic to the point where he can't gain from it, but it helps Ryu?

No but being released two years ago and not having great sales does.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

maybe they didn't want to release lttp on that since its on gba? cause then you just need the gba player to play it on the gamecube, they probably didn't want to hurt their gba sales.
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I wish LOZ: CE had, had LTTP... Excluding arguably the best Zelda is just stupid...

Not arguably. The best Zelda. And nobody bring up the GBA port, I don't care about that, as it was dummied down.
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

Ryu is an icon as well. He's not as "legendary" as Sonic, but an icon nonetheless. And if anyone is past their prime it is obviously Sonic.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

It's a tough match but Ryu is past his time and Sonic left a big enough impact the be memorable for the common voter.

Sonic has been VERY poorly for received for a while now.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

muhwaahwhwa too late, but that could have been why they did it
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Nintendo didn't include ALttP on the LoZ:CE because they had recently released it on the GBA. But yes, it is the best Zelda.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

maybe they didn't want to release lttp on that since its on gba? cause then you just need the gba player to play it on the gamecube, they probably didn't want to hurt their gba sales.

I know the reason they did it but I don't have the GBA port or player and it's not supposed to be as good.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

yeah, i've heard that, i never played the snes version, so I was happy with it, having seen ocarina first though, i'm probably more biased against lttp, and I never finished...


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I know the reason they did it but I don't have the GBA port or player and it's not supposed to be as good.

Exactly. Except I do have the GBA port. But it's easier now. And I couldn't get into the super dungeon because none of my friends wanted to play Four Swords.
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

Ewww... Easier? I'll stick to the ROM...
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

I'd probably have to go with All-Stars over MMAC, but then again I'd vote anything with Mario 3 over pretty much any type of collection.

The Zelda Collection doesn't have Link's Awakening either does it? Adding that, even though it isn't as good as LttP, would have made me find a copy of the collection, that's for sure.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

The collection has the NES ones, the N64 ones, and a Windwaker demo.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Some collection it was. No Link's Awakening/DX, no Link to the Past, and no Oracle of Ages/Seasons (would have made setting up linked games far easier).
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

And yes, Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World is probably the best compilation ever, followed by MMAC.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

What about the Sonic Mega Collection? Barring Sonic CD, they didn't miss much in the way of bad Sonic games and the extras on there are mildly entertaining. Especially since I used to own Flicky. :P
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b45.jpg

Pic is up. Ryu looks pretty cool.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Every pic to 48 is up actually. Also WTF? http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b47.jpg

Ceej has a VENDETTA against Ryu.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

So what do you guys think. If Sonic doesn't put up an impressive performance here can we finnaly say goodbye to the noble nine and make up a name for the top seven characters?

since The Legend of Zelda series is my favorite, I'd go with that to be my favorite collection of games. It was heaven for me. I also like Sonic Mega Collection, I only got to play the origanal Sonic game and it was nice to play the others for the first time. ^_^.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

Sonic and Tails look too cartoony. Ryu looks awesome. Sora looks like Yuna. Hayabusa looks like an Egyptian or something. The rest are about what I expected.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

Well I'm going to bed. Good luck Ryu! ^_^
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

use your chaos emerald powers, Sonic.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

"SFAC has 3rd Strike. The greatest fighting game out, that alone makes it superior. "

3rd Strike isn't that great. Trust me, I've owned it for years. Alpha 3 is superior.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Horrible pictures, all of them. And I expected so much after Link/Ganondorf and Yoshi/Luigi.
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

I want a Samus outside of the suit pic.

"So what do you guys think. If Sonic doesn't put up an impressive performance here can we finnaly say goodbye to the noble nine and make up a name for the top seven characters?"

If a character can take up a top ten spot three years in a row they should be recognized for it.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Fine. But I think that Snake and Sonic are now closer to the others outside of the nine, than to Samus.

But if we want to keep it, that's fine.

that Sora pic is good. It makes him look mysterious.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

If Mega Man/Mario/Crono/Samus all break 40% on Clinkeroth and Snake/Sonic fail to do so, then we drop them. Otherwise, it's Noble Nine.
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

Wow. Dante looks AWFUL. I doubt many could recognize him, if it weren't for the names at the bottom of the poll. Tails might be able to put up 45%, now.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 48/50 (Yoshi) Pick: Squall

Why will CJay not give Ryu TNF?

Wow. Dante looks AWFUL. I doubt many could recognize him, if it weren't for the names at the bottom of the poll. Tails might be able to put up 45%, now.

I agree. Way too much shadow, you can't even see his face.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

Tails might be able to put up 45%, now.

For the last time, pics don't matter. Dante does not suffer from lack of recognizability. The names you mentioned are there for a reason. People will not vote for Tails just because they can't see who Dante is, because they can read who Dante is.

Tails will get 40%, no higher, hopefully a little lower.
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

you know, Tails is my favorite, he's better than the whole dang bunch!
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

Sonic looks cool while Ryu looks like an angry karate-themed Jimmy Fallon. Tails/Dante's my favorite pic, sadly enough, though it's actually pretty decent. Icon's wang was nearly doubled by SORA, that bonnet-wearin' key-weilder? For shame...Ryu does look Egyptian, good call whoever said it. Sam creeps me out and Samus doesn't look too special.

Overall, meh.
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~courtesy of mr wednesday

I think Tails can do 43% on Dante, though he can range from 38% to 45% and I could still believe it.
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~courtesy of mr wednesday

Every pic to 48 is up actually. Also WTF? http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b47.jpg

Ceej has a VENDETTA against Ryu.

What...the...&$^%!?!?

Ryu looks like freakin' Prince of Persia.
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I think pictures DO make a big difference, even though the name is there.

Picture being a casual gamer.

You stumble across a random site, oh look gameFAQs, I'll check it out! And you're looking at the front page, and out of the corner of your eye, you see a bright picture. Naturally, you look at it. Hey look, I know this guy! You see its a poll, and vote. Or.. you're surfing, and there's this unrecognizable picture of a shadowy guy. You keep on going, even if, had the picture caught your attention more, you would have voted for Dante.


I did a poor job explaining, however I simply mean to say, recognizability in a good photo of a character will bring in more casual voters. Sure, a regular will know to just read the name, but this is about catching attention of the casuals.

Will it swing the match? No way, but it *can* make a difference.


P.S. Sora looks like a girl
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Score: 45/48
Midgar Picks: Cloud, Squall, Auron, Sephiroth

Ryu looks like freakin' Prince of Persia.

Heh...maybe people will confuse him with the Prince and he'll get votes. The Prince doesn't have a name, right? Unlikely, but cool if it swung a match. *coughSevenVotescough*

I think Tails can do 43% on Dante, though he can range from 38% to 45% and I could still believe it.

Eh, anything over 43% means Auron = Tidus and I don't buy that. Just for fun, Auron would have to be capable of reaching 38.45% on Cloud (Mega Man level) for Tails to draw even with Dante.
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

I think Sam Fisher's pic might actually matter. That is a *very* iconic Sam Fisher pic. His recognizability will be almost universal with that pic--pretty much everyone will know he's the "Splinter Cell guy", from those commercials if nothing else.


And on this so-called Noble Nine: I have repeatedly said I don't know where this idea originated, and I don't think it has much merit.

It's supposed to be some sort of group where they'd only lose to each other--but obviously, you could take that to different numbers.

And if this is supposed to be a group where they've only lost to each other in the past--well, you'd have to include guys like AiAi and Simon Belmont, etc. They've only lost to Noble Nine people.

And if you say it's comprised of people who've only lost to each other, and also won a match, and been in all three contests, then you have to include Knuckles into it.

The only sensible way to do it is by where the marginal difference between characters is high, but in that case Magus (and others) would belong.

There's a Big Three--any distinctions beyond that are at least partially arbitrary.
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I think pictures DO make a big difference, even though the name is there.

They likely don't make much difference, and we've never seen anything that indicates they make a difference in matches that a top-tier/universally known character is in.

I simply mean to say, recognizability in a good photo of a character will bring in more casual voters. Sure, a regular will know to just read the name, but this is about catching attention of the casuals.

This goes with what I've said in the past--though I suspect it's more for jobbers/people who aren't known by everybody. Thus contributing to jobber popularity volatility.

And I don't think it's just "casuals" this might matter to--lots of characters are completely obscure, and pics might matter somewhat to them.
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In America, men flirt with women. In Shinra Midgar, Don Corneo flirts with YOU!
SC2K4.com/Frog

The idea comes form all those cahracters placing in the top ten two years in a row, the idea will basically be held up by it happening once again. While Magus could have been in consideration for that level of elitehood his failure against Crono makes tenth place impossible. Two years in a row one previous member of the top ten has, for whatever reason, fallen drastically... three years in a row now the same nine characters have basically shown themselves to be in the top ten. Sure, there's a minor chance that one or two of them may not this year, but it seems highly unlikely.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

But the idea of the noble nine was popular even before the second contest, IIRC.
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In America, men flirt with women. In Shinra Midgar, Don Corneo flirts with YOU!
SC2K4.com/Frog

..... All of those pictures suck. I hate Sonic Heroes and I can't stand the way they have their mouths on the side of their face. They TALK just like that... you have no idea how annoying that is. It looks like they had a stroke or something....

I don't like the Ryu pic... he looks too simplistic. I bet HM could pull a MUCH better Ryu within seconds. How about something similar to his second round pic from last year? Dante probably has the most decent pic of the division.

Sora has a cool pic, but i don't think it's the best pic to use for a contest. People aren't as familiar with that Sora. If they haven't played Kingdom Hearts, the only thing he has going for him is the spikes of hair sticking out from under the hood. No key.... That pic is for DIEHARD Kingdom Hearts fans... And what's up with the Prince Ryu pic? I'm tempted to call him Prince Ali Ababua....

Sam looks much more familiar with a close up of his trademark "3-eye" night vision goggles, but his pic is just weird. Samus looks like she's just happy to be in the pic. Nothing defining about her....

And one more thing... Pics for the second round are done. If we don't see sprites for the third round, I am going to start a Board 8 revolt.... I'm talking to you CJayC....


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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

And one more thing... Pics for the second round are done. If we don't see sprites for the third round, I am going to start a Board 8 revolt.... I'm talking to you CJayC....

SECOND'D!
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Current Pick: Sephiroth; Current Vote: Vivi; Points: 51/54

Dante looks like the lead singer of Red Hot chili Peppers, especially in the otherside video.
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"From what I hear, Marking all offensive content in LUE = crossing out all the guys that AREN'T Waldo." -JFlllusion

"But the idea of the noble nine was popular even before the second contest, IIRC."

Not especially, at the time there wasn't anything to establish that the characters were that sepearte from the others, and with Ryu being closer to Snake then Snake was to Cloud I highly doubt that anyone would have settled on the number nine for no reason in particular.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Before the first contest, it was thought that Mario would dominate. After the first contest, there was no idea of the noble nine, but a much more simpler tier list. It went something like this:

Link > ALL

That's about it. Tiers became popular throughout 2k3, but we didn't seriously discuss them until the 2k3 offseason, as I recall.

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I am Lucid Faia.

If Link beats Cloud this year, I will say that pics matter somewhat (although Link is an exception because it's a totally different Link AND a different portrayal). If Cloud beats Link, then pics don't matter at ALL.

I think pics may be a factor in terms of recognizability, especially for more realistic characters. Take the Sam Fisher/Samus match. I have a feeling Sam Fisher will overperform because people will see "He is Splinter Cell", something that one might not have picked up on as clearly in round one. It's matches like that where pics might matter. I would say Link's pic might matter because people may have associated his pic with WW. I don't see how Celda could be so big a topic in the gaming world and not have any effect in this contest. But that's still a theory that the jury's out on. No need to debate on the Link thing because we all will see what the truth is this year.

With anyone else, pics shouldn't matter. Whether Mega Man is aiming at someone's head or not, people will still vote for him. Whether Luigi looks cowardly or bad ass, he still should get the same results. It shouldn't matter for any of the recognizable faces.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

People really started talking about the Noble Nine after SC2k3. The extrapolated rankings weren't so well known back then so people looked at how the characters finished. It was really the elite 8 at first due to how everyone finished, with Crono being included for obvious reasons. I actually remember a couple of people actually calling it "The Elite 8 and Crono", but then Noble Nine took over.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

That pic is for DIEHARD Kingdom Hearts fans...

*waves*

and these pics aren't all that bad, I think Sonic/Ryu is pretty good , tails is ok, dante was...eh, sora I think looks pretty good ryu looks ok to me, but then I don't really have any knowledge of him to care what he looks like, sam fisher vs samus is pretty boring too
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Really, why do people keep assumign pics matter? Name recognition is obviously worth more than pic recognition becuase you actually have to click by a name, not a pic, to vote. Even if you can't tell that the pic is of Dante his name will be right there. Only time pics coul dhelp is if both characters were unkown to a voter, and with characters like Tails and Dante that's unlikely on a site like this.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Oh, I was just saying how the pics SUCK, not that it would play any factor in the matches. Ryu's name is bigger than his image anyways... I essentially said the same thing you did. Unknown or obscure people MIGHT benefit from a pic (Sam Fisher, Master Chief), everyone else it shouldn't matter since they should already be well known enough. The only one I'm in disagreement is Link, but not enough to debate about. That one's just a wait and see thing...
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

smitelf, you are my new best friend. Anyone who likes FFX, the Sphere Grid, and most of all Auron, is okay by me! I'm not entirely sure why you hated FF9 (care to fill me in briefly? I thought it was 'okay' at best, but the battle system sucked royally and the only tolerable characters were Vivi and Freya), but you've definitely earned brownie points today! Now if only you hated Seymour on top of all that.....

Incidentially, what's your take on Tifa? I hate how so many people judge her based solely on the whole outfit and boobs thing, cuz outside of that meaningless drivel she was actually one of the better FF characters in my book; she was so realistic (not physically, but character-wise), I thought she could be a real person. And I hate the fact that Aeris is generally more popular.....hate it more than almost anything else in the world, and feel that that particular fact can burn in the bowels of hell.....but that's me.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

You're right, Tifa is a far better character than Aeris. Easily.

Why does Cjay hate Ryu so much? Give him the ninja factor!
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SC2k4 Winner: Link
Status: 50/54 Next Pick: Sephiroth

Sonic the Hedgehog 50% 16
Ryu 53.13% 17
TOTAL VOTES 32

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Ryu's actually holding his own quite well. Were the board 8 votes in favor of him?

Ryu held even to about 102-101 (Sonic), then faded off considerably. (170-147)

Still, a solid Showing from Ryu. I was expecting this match to end up around 53-47.
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yeah, but sonic characters are good for the day vote
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Always have been. =) I think those who picked Ryu over Sonic were living a pipe dream, lol
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Score-Brackets-% Right
54----5--------100.0000000
53----81-------100.0000000
52----154------100.0000000
51----241------99.5850622
50----298------99.6644295
49----342------99.1228070
48----423------99.0543735
47----634------99.3690852
46----886------98.6455982
45----1134-----98.0599647
44----1572-----97.8371501
43----1758-----97.3833902
42----2263-----96.5974370
41----2482-----96.5350524
40----2706-----96.1197339
39----2731-----95.1666056
38----2628-----94.5585997
37----2325-----93.7204301
36----2149-----91.0656119
35----1786-----89.6976484
34----1537-----86.6623292
33----1201-----83.1806828
32----899------81.0901001
31----690------78.1159420
30----561------70.7664884
29----437------70.7093822
28----319------64.2633229
27----227------58.5903084
26----170------54.1176471
25----132------46.2121212
24----78-------41.0256410
23----68-------47.0588235
22----52-------34.6153846
21----24-------45.8333333
20----23-------34.7826087
19----14-------42.8571429
18----10-------20.0000000
17----4--------50.0000000
16----5--------20.0000000
15----2--------50.0000000
14----5--------0.0000000
13----3--------0.0000000
12----5--------20.0000000

Nobody with a score of 11 or lower got the match right. The top three tiers did perfect and the scores all the way down to 36 did better than 90%. This is just slightly less than what happened in Cloud vs Vyse. Once again no changes in the Top 50.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

Ok, Sonic's up about 53-47 now. Knowing the general Sonic dayvote, this should end around 70-30. Good night folks.

But before I go: CjayC is saving the Ninja for round 3. The hours before the match starts in Round 3 for Ryu vs. Samus, I'm going to be petitioning Lue, trying to get them to prove once and for all Ninjas > all. I feel if I can get the LUE vote on Ryu's side, I have a chance of him winning.

Ryu's keeping this one close. Come the day, I'm sure Sonic will pull away, but I expect Ryu to stay well over 40%.

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honestly, you are bitter over a poll, go crawl inside your skin because these wounds are not healing. - Sir Chris

I think you'll find that LUE doesn't need you telling them to vote for a ninja. They already will.

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I am Lucid Faia.

I don't think it's wise to say that Ryu H. has Sora beat. Sora still has plenty of a good chance of winning and if not it will certainly be close.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:43.55 || HRC 37,179.9 ||

Ryu is really throwing up a fight for the board vote. Although still unlikely, an upset like this would really set things up to be interesting from here on out and seedings would be tough to deal with next year. Too bad Sonic will own the day vote.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:43.55 || HRC 37,179.9 ||

Sora has a chance, but I'd certainly give the edge to anyone who beats a character that is placed 11 spots ahead on her weakest day.

In 2k3 standings Tails is about as close to Scorp as Sora is to Jill. As it stands that would mean Sora would have to face as much SFF as Auron, meaning that Sora would have to be as far away from Aeris as Auron is from Cloud. With SFF accounted for Sora is significantly closer to Aeris than Auron is to Cloud. If, by some chance, Aeris and Sora share as much as Auron and Cloud (which is unlikely since her fanbasy is primarily FF and his is all KH) then he still cannot increase by the same % as Auron did meaning he will fall short of Jill who was, in my opinion, ranked slightly lower than she should have been.

Really, if it were KHFF Sora would be the one to win votes from Aeris as her presence in the game is extremely minor, if it's just plain Square SFF then his proximity to her is clearly greater than the two SvS matched we know to have had SFF last year meaning he is less capable of "growth" this year than his fellow Squares that shared his dillema last year.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

Ryu actually has the lead at this point...
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<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

Today's match is far from over, but mastermage119 has us all shaking in our ... seats or pants or boots or something. And we all know that if Ryu beats Sonic, he'll beat Dante just like last year. And it almost makes you wonder what will happen in Ryu vs. Samus. Of course I still think Sonic pulls it back with the day vote. But you never know.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:43.55 || HRC 37,179.9 ||

Sonic is already coming back. Since I like comparing one work of greatness to another... Ryu has basically pulled a Kefka on us... but he will also fare better over all.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

When it comes to gaming compilations though, nothing beats MMAC.

Super Mario All-Stars + SMW + YI > MMAC

Is there a Mario collection that includes all that? If so, I need to get it.

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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 54/56
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Sonic with 58.15%

Allow me to express my happiness right this very instant. GO RYU!!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

When does SEGA's morning vote usually kick in? Cuz Sonic's winning by about 70 right now.
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

Looks like Sonic's kicking in now...
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Jon Thomson - today: Sonic, tomorrow: Dante - 48/56
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

looks like sonics ready to aim for around 55-57.
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

I think we MIGHT be lookinga at another Frog vs Master Chief when all is said and done. GOOO RYU!
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

eh.. we already know the voting patterns for both ryu and sonic... why would they change any...
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.

Ryu, you shall feel my god's wrath!!!

You are going to get LIGHT DASHE'D
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I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." .52/54

eh.. we already know the voting patterns for both ryu and sonic... why would they change any...

Who said they would?
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

HOLY ****! That was, like, so prophetic when I said this could well be 50-50 in the opening hours.

Second "holy ****" for the Sora/Hayabusa picture. Both are just downright horrid... looks like we'll get a battle of name recognition here.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 052/054 - Matches: 41/43 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sephiroth - Tomorrow: Sonic

well for the voting trend you suggested to take place sonic would have to have a stronger morning weaker afternoon stronger early evening and equal night vote..
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.

Ya know, I'm sure CJay could still change Sora/Ryu's pic, since it'd be the right thing to do, hint hint.....
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Or a Stronger Morning/Early Afternoon, Weaker Late Afternoon/Night.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Man, what a choke job. I don't think even a Sonic character was ever able to do this. When I got on 15 minutes ago Sonic was at 54, and now he's going for 55.

Kiss your hopes goodbye, Heroic Mario.

Now I'm interested to see how Dante will behave with the night vote against Sonic.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 052/054 - Matches: 41/43 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sephiroth - Tomorrow: Sonic

*tag*
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The match is surely over.. Sonic is pulling away too fast..

Holy ****... All the next few matches pics suck!!! .. Especially Sora vs. Hayabusa.. That match reeks with horrid all over it.. I was expecting too much from CjayC after the Link/Ganondorf and Luigi/Yoshi.. ... This leaves me to never have that much hope in CjayC giving us good match pictures and giving us a "good" bracket..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

funny how it takes Sonic/crew fans a few hours to notice that Sonic/crew is in a match
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Summer 2004 Contest 51/56 Sonic vs. Ryu

What was Ryu's biggest lead?

Also Street Fighter always loses in the morning vote, just look at SMRPG.


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I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." .52/54

It's not to bad right now, but if it gets any larger then the disappointment would set in.

As for the pictures, Dante's completely owns for tomorrow.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

>_>
<_<

Okay, my take on the whole deal...

Sonic wins today. No biggie there...

I just don't see Sonic holding on to his "noble nine" spot. sorry, but...

Samus will slaughter him even worse than before.

Seriously, i'd have to list the top chars as:

Cloud
Link
Sephiroth
Mario
Crono
Samus
Mega Man
Snake

for the top 8, in no particular order.

Were I to try to order it:

Cloud
Link
Sephiroth
Mega Man
Samus
Mario
Snake
Crono


i think. >_>

I know the top 3 is right.
<_<

But Mario beat Seph...

*brain goes explooey*
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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!"
black mage, 8-bit theater

3rd Strike isn't that great. Trust me, I've owned it for years. Alpha 3 is superior.

Hold thy tongue. I've put many hours into playing 3rd Strike and it is one excellent game. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I just don't see Sonic holding on to his "noble nine" spot. sorry, but...

Considering that the real dayvote hasn't started yet, Sonic will at least get the same lead as Solid Snake got Ryu last year. But it's your opnion not mine.
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I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." .52/54

Wow. Dante looks AWFUL.

Dante looks badass. Not like the pictures make that much of a difference in a match where two characters are obviously known with casual and frequent gamers alike. He shall exceed 60% tomorrow.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Sonic will always hold his "noble nine" spot.. Come on.. Afterall, he is SONIC!!!...

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

And that Sora vs Hayabusa picture does look absolutely awful.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Wow in the last hour Sonic gain about .75 and increased his lead by about 600
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Summer 2004 Contest 51/56 Sonic vs. Ryu

He can't break 56% very well though...
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true he's been hanging on the 90's for a while I think ht needs another push
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Summer 2004 Contest 51/56 Sonic vs. Ryu

LMAO at Ryu's pick.

Man that's dorky.

*Switches oracle pic from Ryu to Sora*

>< I can't believe they actually managed to make SORA look more badass than RYU with that pic.
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Exactly. Except I do have the GBA port. But it's easier now. And I couldn't get into the super dungeon because none of my friends wanted to play Four Swords.

Check one of the Glitch FAQs, they show how to get into the bonus dungeon without linking up.

I think Sora's picture is pretty good. I was hoping we'd get something other than his usual Kingdom Hearts pic. Plus, that's the great thing about close-up pictures for round 2: Sora's big clown feet don't show up in the picture.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Come on Ryu... just keep the day vote under 57%!
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Anxiously awaiting... DANTE vs. tails

Heh, this match reminds me of FFVII-CT. The underdog keeps it 50/50 throughout the night before collapsing under the weight of the day vote.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I have a question did Zero or Aeris lead the poll in there matches with Sonic because back then I never saw the beginning of the poll
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Summer 2004 Contest 51/56 Sonic vs. Ryu

Sonic is just going to look stronger and stronger as the day goes on and reaffirm his Noble 9 spot. Ryu only did so well in the night vote because this board overwhelmingly favors him and hates Sonic.
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-Creepyfish

He shall exceed 60% tomorrow.

Let us hope so.

Check one of the Glitch FAQs, they show how to get into the bonus dungeon without linking up.

Sweet, thanks for the info!

Ryu only did so well in the night vote because this board overwhelmingly favors him and hates Sonic.

The board loves Sonic, it just so happens he's really weak with the night vote. And most people in this topic don't like him.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

BTW...How much is Sonic supposed to get in the Extrapolateds today?
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-Creepyfish

~56.06%

Looking dead on at the moment. But it might go up.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

Sonic is supposed to get 56.06% against Ryu, and if he wants any hope of beating Samus, he has to exceed that by quite a bit.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

If Sonic wants any hope of defeating Samus he'll have to change his name to Cloud.
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I would love to see Sonic beat Samus, but for him to have any chance to do that, he would have to get a large, stable lead on Samus during the day, and I just can't even picture that in my mind realistically.
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-Creepyfish

Anybody else find it odd that Sonic has dropped over .25% in the last half hour? He's supposed to be king of the day vote and all...
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

Day vote doesn't kick in until a little later now that school has started back up.

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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

true on school days this time looks like a mini-night vote or something.
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Summer 2004 Contest 51/56 Sonic vs. Ryu

Good catch. The big "Day Vote" pushes only take place when the younger ones wake up before heading out to school (and we saw the jump Sonic made then), and in the early afternoon when they all get back home. Sonic should see another big jump then... but I'm still thinking Ryu will take back alot of those gains later, in the evening and into the latenight. Which would be just perfect for my Oracle.

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Another day with 240 ahead of me...these next 2 matches better produce some losses above me..grrr!
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Perfects to Fall: 5 SC2K4: 55/58 (Go RYU H!)

What NGamer said. Basically, we'll see Ryu draw closer and closer to 55%, then all of a sudden Sonic goes up like a helium-inflated balloon.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

I'm rather disappointed with Ryu's results, I was hoping he can at least keep Sonic in check during the daylight hours.

As for the future match pics, I hate them all, especially Sora vs. Ryu H.
What's with Sora looking like girl (he reminds me of Garnet, when she met Zidane for the first time) and Ryu looking like a ninja NOT.

I really hope Ceej would change them before their respective matches start.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

The sad thing is, even with a worthless pic, Ryu still has the pic advantage.

Hey, we've seen weirder things. Like PAC-MAN with the pic advantage.

And darn do I hate that Dante pic. He had it when Crono flushed him down the toilet... OMFG UPSET PROSPECT?!?!? Argh, who am I kidding.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

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Nope, more like 56-44.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

Part of me is glad to see Ryu doing so well, and then the other part of me just wants to rip my bracket to shreds and concede defeat.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Part of me is glad to see Ryu doing so well, and then the other part of me just wants to rip my bracket to shreds and concede defeat.

At least wait until Samus triples Sam Fisher. Then you'll know beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I really hope that happens, as then we have another contendor against Clinkeroth...Mega Man has proven himself, let's see Samus do it.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

You mean, you have Sonic beating Samus?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

I hope a few perfects and 1 point brackets didn't have Sonic... I am sick of not moving up any! Though it won't matter. When Prince Ryu loses to Sora in two days, my bracket will go down the toilet anyways =(
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Anxiously awaiting... SONIC vs. ryu

There are deffinately a few people dropping today.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

There are deffinately a few people dropping today.

*cough*

>_> <_<
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Hmm. I like these numbers.

Sonic is saving face (I like him) but also I have nothing to worry about when I pick Samus over him the the Elite Eight.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 48/50 (Yoshi) Pick: Squall

Sonic: not impressin' me after Ness and Vivi impressed me while losing.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

Vivi did great. =)

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Vivi did what I expected him to...
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 48/50 (Yoshi) Pick: Squall

Vivi did fantastic. And Sonic is below 55%.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

From not expecting Tidus to go under 40% to Ryu not gettin' over 43%, I'm gettin' owned prediction-wise by HM, even if we got the same score.

Good call again, HM.
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I am teh suxx0rz. PWN'D by a n00b.
~courtesy of mr wednesday

So when exactly is Sonic supposed to begin PWNing Ryu? 12 PST?
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Anxiously awaiting... DANTE vs. tails

The idea of the noble nine originated after SC2K3. One of our hot topics for quite awhile was tiers, which I think I started. I really screwed them up at the start, but after some collective work, we got them right.
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Since you guys are all the stat gurus, I thought I'd direct your attention over to my topic for a second. I'm in the process of creating an all encompassing GameFAQs contest program and I'd like some advice on what features to implement. Take a look and let me know what you think so far and what you'd like to see added. Thank you!

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16323960

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Lunatic Under Narcotic Influence
FFXI: Luninutz: Carbuncle - 20 WAR / 10 MNK

After I write Tails/Dante, I'll be sure to do that.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Regarding the match pic, cjayc did two different things that I thought were impossible: He made Sora look better than Hayabusa and he made Hayabusa look even worse than last round. I'll be sad if Hayabusa is out of this contest without ever getting a good NES-era matchpic.

I'm also pretty disappointed in Sonic so far. I was hoping he might upset Samus, but that seems pretty unlikely now.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 54/56
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Sonic with 58.15%

Unless Ryu has for some reason moved up Sonic, highly unfortanatly, has no chance to beat samus. Although one thing I'd like to think is that SFAC has given Ryu a recognisable boost (i'm sure that is doubtful but o well I can dream!), and that sonic is just as strong as I wish he was (being able to hit 60% on Ryu).
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

If Sonic wants any hope of defeating Samus he'll have to change his name to Cloud.

Best. Analysis. EVER.



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"I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE MAGIC SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!"
black mage, 8-bit theater

If Sonic wants any hope of defeating Samus he'll have to change his name to Cloud.

Best. Analysis. EVER.

Nah, Sonic needs to change his name to Clinkeroth. Then he'd be unstoppable.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

Well, the fake Part 61 has finally been modded.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Not really.... Then most people would just say: Wtf?!?!?!?!?!?!? Now if it was on this board.......
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

Sonic is back up to 55%...he's probably going to "go up like a helium-inflated balloon," just as Slowflake predicted. Until night time.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

*skips boring, stupid math class*

*comes to GameFAQs*

*laughs at poll results*

<gloating> As I said, the most low-risk sig bet ever. Hell, the most low-risk bet ever, period. </gloating>

I shall now spend the remaining time that I should be spending in class thinking up a niiice sig...
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 54/56, Next Winner: Sonic

Oh man, did me and Slow ever call this right. I celebrated Ryu taking Sonic under 55 (to 54.99%) at 2:01 my time. Went to a few sites, checked back at 2:06, and he was already up to 55.08! This very well might get nutty in the next few hours.

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GO SONIC!! Hit 57%!!
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

No, hit 56.5%. My oracle prediction.

And the highest I saw Ryu was at 45.24%.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

Oh, and the next few match pics look horrible, as has already been mentioned. They're probably the worst I've seen in recent memory, anyway. Sora is nearly unrecognizable, Ryu looks like a woman, and Dante just looks like ass. Ceej should just let other people do the match pics like he did for the end of the last contest; he obviously doesn't have the inclination to make decent ones, himself.
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Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 52/54, Next Winner: Sephiroth

Moltar's First Thoughts on: Sonic vs. Ryu

No poll check this morning. So I get home about 10 minutes ago to see Sonic winning with 55.4% 5 minutes later, I vote, and he's up .05%. I just checked now and he's still going up. King of the Day Vote they call him. ^_~ Ryu's doing alright, I guess.

Sonic should end this with around 56%, he'll have be lucky to break 57%.

Now on these match pics...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b45.jpg

I have Sonic bias...so I like his alot, and Ryu looks cool too.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b46.jpg

MEGA MAN'D Dante's got that gun loaded and pointed right at Tails's head >=) I don't like the pic in general much though.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b47.jpg

This is just ****ed up right here. I don't like it at all.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b48.jpg

Best out of the remaining 3, but still not that good. I like the shine effect from Sam with his goggles.
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Sonic vs. Ryu - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (54/56)

GO SONIC!

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No, I've also seen what sports teams you like. You are clearly the one with poor taste. ~Leonhart4

..... So who thinks they'll be getting my spot? Jeebus hates me today.

=/
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Ngamer's thingy just reeks of awesomeness. I'm ****ing willing to beta-test this.

Ulti... Tails/Dante the DRS? Over Sora/Hayabusa? This reaches Cloud Nine on my scare of nonsensicality. Of course, I'm feeling good about Hayabusa winning, but Dante's all but a lock.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

Thank you, thank you. Good match Ryu!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Chaos Division: Round 2 - Match 46 – (12)Tails vs. (4)Dante

Moltar’s Analysis

Tails - When Sonic jumps off a cliff, you can count on this fox to be right behind him.

Round 1 – vs. Joe (Joe: 45.20% - Tails: 54.80%)

Upset Special! Many under-estimated Tails going into this match…but I like to think Joe just let us down.

Dante - Sephiroth – Long Hair + Guns = Dante

Round 1 – vs. Ratchet (Dante: 80.28% - Ratchet: 19.72%)

Dante destroys Ratchet. Badly…very badly.

Wow…talk about complete opposites. Tails takes on Dante, and the winner goes on to face Sonic. How fun.

Tails…what can we say about this fox…I know! He’s under-estimated severely. I mean, he’s always the pulls low seeds, and faces tough opponents in Round 1. He took on Alucard in 2002 55-45%. That’s actually pretty good considering he’s facing Dracula. In 2003, he faced Auron in Round 1, and lost 64-36%. Now, we didn’t know this back then, but it’s actually pretty well due to Cloud/Auron SFF and all that jazz. Then he took on Joe…and won. Yep.

Dante has been a 4 seed in all the Contests, but has lost in Round 2 both times, to Crono in 2002 and Ryu in 2003. He’s quite strong in the Contest, ranking between...get this….Auron and Alucard! Isn’t that just the strangest thing?

Dante will win, but Tails might put up a fight here. Can Tails break 40% is the big question, and honestly, I don’t know.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Dante will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Dante 60% - Tails 40%



Ulti's Analysis

So Tails wound up beating Viewtiful Joe.

That's nice. Welcome to the big leagues, you stupid little 47-tailed fox with the ****ty voice actor.

Ulti's Bracket/Prediction - Dante/Dante with 60.01%



Cena’s Analysis

I'm still a little shocked that the twin-tailed fox-pilot-boy beat the Viewtiful one, but nonethless, he's in round 2 for the first time. Good job, little fella, now meet Dante. I never played either DMC games, so I have no idea how badass this Dante really is. But he's a four seed, and he's proven himself last year enough that this match shouldn't even worry anybody with Dante on their bracket. Ratchet was fodder, so Dante's 80% wasn't that special, but still, that's 80% when most figured 70% would be the right amount. That just stacks the deck against Sonic's little buddy. I do sorta feel bad that Dante's going to own him, but then I hear his voice over and over and wish him to rest in pieces.

Cena's Vote: Tails

Cena's Prediction: Dante with 65% (Devil May Cry? Please. Tails Will Cry)

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Sonic vs. Ryu - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (54/56)

And so much for Sonic being at a 2002 level.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Do we think the top 50 will include 2 pt. loss brackets by the end of Round 2? Or are we going to have to wait for Mario/Crono for that?
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Anxiously awaiting... DANTE vs. tails
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 9/15/2004 2:00:36 PM
Well, the fake Part 61 has finally been modded.

what do those get modded for, anyway?
trolling?
disruptive...?

in other news, i must be the only one even reading this topic that actually likes sora's round 2 pic.
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redline15: sarcastic lurker

Oh man, did me and Slow ever call this right

Beg your pardon? Slow called a 57-43 match if I remember correctly.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Well, BOTH Sonic and Ryu may be at 2002 level for all we know.

I can't wait for Sonic/Dante. I get the feeling it'll say a lot about whether WDF exists or not.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

Good call again, HM.

Thanks. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Match's not over HM, and Sonic is still on the rise...
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

Well, BOTH Sonic and Ryu may be at 2002 level for all we know.

This is one time where I would love for Sonic to go back to that level, because that means Ryu jumps up too. Man, that would kick so much ass.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Yes, and I expect the night vote to do more favoring toward Ryu than Sonic. At the very least, Sonic's not doing much better than he's expected that's for sure.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

what do those get modded for, anyway?
trolling?
disruptive...?

in other news, i must be the only one even reading this topic that actually likes sora's round 2 pic.

Trolling the Stat Topics. While I don't see how they are trolling, usually, I do think that they are stupid. And that should be reason enough. ;>_>
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Just wait. Starting at 9 o' clock, Ryu will begin a rapid comeback.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

As we speak, he's doing slightly worse. Any momentum he had after round 1 has been hadokened to hell. That, I DID expect.

And one more argument for the proponents of Samus as cutoff point for the elites.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

Yeah, he is doing worse than expected but I meant by the end of the match. If he somehow gains into the night I really don't expect him to exceed 56.06% by very much. Honestly though I expect Ryu to get more of the night vote.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Do we think the top 50 will include 2 pt. loss brackets by the end of Round 2? Or are we going to have to wait for Mario/Crono for that?

Sora vs Ryu Hayabusa.

in other news, i must be the only one even reading this topic that actually likes sora's round 2 pic.

I like it.
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No, I've also seen what sports teams you like. You are clearly the one with poor taste. ~Leonhart4

I still have to ask why in the world CJayC refused to use Hayabusa's picture from the Xbox version of Ninja Gaiden. I've posted plenty of good choices but he uses the horrid DOA one. >>
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

And Sam Fisher's picture is by far cooler than Samus'. Damn he has a nice one.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

someone in another topic suggested that he's saving the "ninja" look for round 3.
i certainly hope so...
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redline15: sarcastic lurker

If that's the sprite round, which it should be, then we get the awesome NES sprite. Now that one owns. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

You know, Sonic Team can never catch a break in the contest as far as draws are concerned. This will be the 2nd year in a row that Sonic has had to face legitimate top 20 strength characters en route to the Elite Eight. Plus, he had Tidus in 2002 before losing to Samus in round 3. Of all the members of the Noble Nine, the Blue Blur usually has one of the toughest routes to traverse.

Tails isn't exactly weak (not that strong either), but he got tough first round opponents in Alucard and Auron.

Knuckles's contest history is well-documented (3 straight years of a second round showdown with Solid Snake).

Shadow had Sonic's biggest rival in round 2 last year, and then he had to face someone who's practically his contest equal strength-wise in the first round this year.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

The new game starring Vincent is called Final Fantasy 7: Dirge of Cerberus and is scheduled for the PS2 in 2005. It also takes place AFTER Advent Children.

http://media.adventchildren.net/scans/jp0915.jpg

Vincent is so in. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I had the scoop on that story this morning, yo. Vincent looks to be a lock to be in the contest next year though.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

that pic of Vincent in the upper right corner is ****ing awesome. Vincent has always been my favorite FF7 character. i really hope this new game develops his character and backstory further.

in other news, Sonic is currently at 55.9% and looks to hit 56 and possibly 57 before the evening ends.

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

The fact that it takes place after Advent Children makes me believe more that Cloud's final days are within the movie.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

It also says that Reeve is alive. Perhaps there's hope for Cait Sith in Advent Children and beyond.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

in other news, Sonic is currently at 55.9% and looks to hit 56 and possibly 57 before the evening ends.

He will not hit 57% nor will he get much higher than he is now. Ryu holding Sonic to this is great considering I expect him to gather up more of the night vote and bring Sonic's percentage down.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Caith Sith should never appear again.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

is that 2005 in America, HM and Leonhart? and what part of 2005?

and where does the cel-phone FF7-related Turks game that will never come to America take place in the FF7 timeline? i forget.

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

is that 2005 in America, HM and Leonhart? and what part of 2005?

Nothing confirmed, although I would assume Japan.

and where does the cel-phone FF7-related Turks game that will never come to America take place in the FF7 timeline? i forget.

It takes place six years before the events of Final Fantasy 7.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

cool. thanks, HM.

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

"smitelf is the smartest, wittiest, and sexiest user on GameFAQs. I'm jealous of Ulti, and Ryu sucks."

Hmm...I'll work on it. Doesn't sound quite right yet.
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Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 54/56, Next Winner: Sonic

DoC's coming out before the next contest? Strange, I thought it would come out after FFXII.

Actually, it's not confirmed when it'll be released. Just scheduled for 2005.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

What? Cloud... dying? Oh ****, now he's going to win every contest from here on out.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

"smitelf is the smartest, wittiest, and sexiest user on GameFAQs. I'm jealous of Ulti, and Ryu sucks."

Hmm...I'll work on it. Doesn't sound quite right yet.

Heh.

I just read your sig, and I wanted to know what match(es) you missed.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

What? Cloud... dying? Oh ****, now he's going to win every contest from here on out.

Well, it's just something that seems very likely given the circumstances. He has an incurable disease (Geostigma) that is fatal and will have the be-all, end-all battles between Cloud and Sephiroth. Add in the fact the next game takes place one year after AC and stars Vincent just makes me believe he will.

And if he goes out with a bang then he gets many positives in my book.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I missed Jak vs. Ness and Joe vs. Tails.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 54/56, Next Winner: Sonic

Damn Tails ;_;
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Heh smitelf... our brackets are still identical... and chances are our only difference is good ole' Sephy and Cloud. And Sonic just hit 56%... now keep it there for 10 more hours so I can have a perfect oracle pick =)
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Anxiously awaiting... DANTE vs. tails
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He has an incurable disease (Geostigma)

Incurable? Come on the ancients could cure anything. Even scientists today can cure pretty much anything, and FFVII science is far more advanced than that. After all, they said the Black Death was incurable, and now we can do it in under 24 hours.

Bah, the more I hear about AC's plot the worse it sounds. The graphics are also sadly depressing, far inferior to The Final Flight of the Osiris. Now that was nice CGI.

Nah, it's bound to decrease later tonight. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

There are no more Ancients, you know. Besides, from the looks of things, Cloud doesn't want to be cured.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

What the hell is Geostigma?
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Incurable? Come on the ancients could cure anything. Even scientists today can cure pretty much anything, and FFVII science is far more advanced than that. After all, they said the Black Death was incurable, and now we can do it in under 24 hours.

It is an incurable disease, that much has been stated.

Cloud: " There is no cure for it you know. "

Vincent: " Geostigma is the reaction of human bodies that are trying to expel some toxins... Sephiroth's gene, Jenova's cells, however you may want to call them. There is a thing like the Lifestream that flows in our bodies, and it is fighting against the wicked substance that has penetrated us. Geostigma is the result of all that. "

Bah, the more I hear about AC's plot the worse it sounds.

Doesn't sound bad to me at all.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Damn Tails ;_;

Yes, Tails sucks.

Hmm...here's version 2.0:

"I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness has consume’d me."

I was going to put something about Ulti in there, too, but it's so long as it is, and I wouldn't want to take up all the poor guy's sig space.
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Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 54/56, Next Winner: Sonic

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Is AC coming out first in America or Japan?

And yeah, Cloud wasn't even on planning to tell anyone he had the disease.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

"I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness has consume’d me."

XD
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

It comes out in 2004 for Japan and in February 2005 for America.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Smitelf, how do you pronounce "Smitelf"?
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No, I've also seen what sports teams you like. You are clearly the one with poor taste. ~Leonhart4

smite elf, if she still says to pronounce it the same way she did in one of the older stat topics.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Tomorrow should be a good match. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Vincent rocks oh do much.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake

If by good you mean possible upset, then I hope you're right.
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No, I've also seen what sports teams you like. You are clearly the one with poor taste. ~Leonhart4

I mean a 60%+ win for Dante.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Good match as in 'Tails gets to get the crap kicked out of him for beating Joe' good.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

Tails will get 40%.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

It wasn't until seeing that I even didn't realize it wasn't smiteelf... Silly me. That's what, 3 sigs with her as Queen **** of the Universe now?
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"All in all, sometimes it's a wonder that pesants[sic] actually live long enough to learn how to farm....."-mysterygilgamesh4
{34}

Tails will not do so.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

And then he'd proceed to lose to Sonic, who'll lose to Samus, who'll lose to Cloud.

That'd put Viewtiful Joe at like... 50th in the X-Stats. Maybe below Gordon Freeman.
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No, I've also seen what sports teams you like. You are clearly the one with poor taste. ~Leonhart4

Nah, Tails ought to break 40% without much trouble.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I thought Tails would get about 41%.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

I think quite the opposite. Tails will have trouble breaking 40% if he even does so.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I'm sticking with 40% because anything higher puts Auron too close to Tidus and anything lower means a pretty big drop for Scorpion. I have a feeling it's more likely to be lower than higher, though.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

Tails breaking 40% is conditional to SFF affecting Cloud/Auron though. We've had contradictory signs on that one for, like, forever.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

I'm hoping for yet another upset by tails. Although in truth I'll be very content to see him beat 40%.
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

I also need somewhere between 1 and 36 brackets to fall on this match to make the leaderboard.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

It wasn't until seeing that I even didn't realize it wasn't smiteelf... Silly me. That's what, 3 sigs with her as Queen **** of the Universe now?

I remember when she changed her sig. XD
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

A non-SFF adjusted Tails would be expected to get over 36% on Dante. Putting Tails right around Scorpion's level gives up 43.5%.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

...Dirge of Cerberus looks like a surivival horror game...0_0.
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Schucks. I'm losing my account the day after Megaman vs. Snake...*_*...

If Vincent is in SC2k5 where will he rank among the other characters? That's a tough one for me. Could he beat Frog? Zelda? Snake? Samus?
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:43.55 || HRC 37,179.9 ||

I'd put him on Squall's level.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

*expects Heroic Mario post consisting of something like "I'd take Vincent over Squall without thinking"*
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Eh, I'd take him over Squall but I wouldn't say that match is to obvious. After his new game though it'd be idiotic not too.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

If Vincent is in SC2k5 where will he rank among the other characters? That's a tough one for me. Could he beat Frog? Zelda? Snake? Samus?

2005 is waaay too early for Vincent, unless you're content with him being mere fodder.

Let his game sink for at least a year and then he can make a grandiose debut.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Fodder? Are you kidding me? I wouldn't place him any lower than around the mid-20's at the least. Given how Advent Children could certainly help him out there's no way he'd place at fodder.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

He'd probably be a little under the level of "female lead" IE Aeris. Or maybe Tifa, since we have no idea how she'd do in the contest anyway.

If Vincent wasn't an optional character that's actually a bit out of your way to get, he'd probably be a bit better...
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

Sonic is up to 56.2% now.

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No, I've also seen what sports teams you like. You are clearly the one with poor taste. ~Leonhart4

What the hell is up with that Sora pic, anyway? Why is he wearing that cloak?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Those are his clothes. He just has the hood on.

in other news, i must be the only one even reading this topic that actually likes sora's round 2 pic.

I like Sora's pick too, it focuses more on kh2 and the secret trailer, which really is an awesome trailer.

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Fodder? Are you kidding me? I wouldn't place him any lower than around the mid-20's at the least. Given how Advent Children could certainly help him out there's no way he'd place at fodder.

Sorry, but I'm not kidding.

He has no known personality in FF VII, not good for an RPG char.
All he has is the badass factor, and it doesn't help Kain.
The only way for him to get past round 2, is if you put a "(Final Fantasy VII)" tag next to his name.

But if this next FF VII sequel is good, he'll definitely do wonders in 2006.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

I like Sora's pick too, it focuses more on kh2 and the secret trailer, which really is an awesome trailer.

Only hardcore KH fans would recognice that.

The first thing that comes to my mind when I saw his pic is princess Garnet from FF IX.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

He has no known personality in FF VII, not good for an RPG char.

Yet there are still many people who like him and Advent Children takes care of the "personality" portion.

All he has is the badass factor, and it doesn't help Kain.

Which isn't an hinderance.

The only way for him to get past round 2, is if you put a "(Final Fantasy VII)" tag next to his name.

All he needs is "Vincent Valentine" in order to rank high in this contest.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Hey, I'd vote Garnet over Sora....

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I just realized something...

Garnet is pronounced "gar-nay".
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Only hardcore KH fans would recognice that.

So that's where it's from...doesn't make it look less ****ty, though.
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Garnet is pronounced Garnit. It's not French...
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Hmmm... This is looking SLIGHTLY bad for Ryu... I hope he can come back from this deficit...
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Whoa Sonic is increasing like hell. He'll lose the night vote however.
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Summer 2004 Contest Prediction: Match 45: Sonic the Hedgehog wins 60.35%-39.65%

Meh, he'll start coming back in a couple or few hours...

Sonic will probably get him to about 56.65% before Ryu shaves it down to 56.15% and the match will end..
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Coming back as in.... percentage of course.
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I know that Sonic is referred to as the "King of the Day Vote", but have there been any occasions where Sonic did not get the day vote? And by that, I mean that his percentage was either static during the day or decreasing.
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Ehhh... 7000 isn't THAT much.... I'm sure Ryu has twice SC's comeback power.
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All he needs is "Vincent Valentine" in order to rank high in this contest.

I'm talking about the casuals, only those who actually played FF VII all the way would recognize him.

Hell a lot of my friends didn't get him on their first playthrough.

Despite many of them having huge Cloud posters on their bedroom door.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

The thing i dislike most about the Xs is that they rely on percentages. They are unrelyable because you can increase you lead and lose percent at teh same time. In all honesty i could care less if sonic beats ryu by 56.15 or by 57 because it doesn't make him all that much weaker or stronger either way.
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What other way would you have them do it? Percentages are the only way that make any sense....
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I'm talking about the casuals, only those who actually played FF VII all the way would recognize him.

Er...

We are on GameFAQs, you know....

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Of all the members of the Noble Nine, the Blue Blur usually has one of the toughest routes to traverse.

As a Crono fan, I have zero sympathy for Sonic on that score. Who would you rather face, Ryu and Dante or Magus and Mario? Even in the first round, Crono had a tougher opponent than anyone in the noble nine except Cloud and maybe Samus.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 54/56
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Sonic with 58.15%

I know. I'm not really bashing them, it just bothers me. (for the record Mumei, you're completely right in the fact that they can only use percentages)
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

Er...
We are on GameFAQs, you know...

True, but let's see if you guys can get him in next contest.

Cause unless they exclude Cloud/Sephy, most FF VII fans' nominations will always go their way.

IIRC, Aeris is the only FF VII char ever get into this contest other than those 2.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryu took off a good amount of percentage off of Sonic's score.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

So, um, about the Sonic question... Yes or No? And if so, against who?
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

The only occasion that I can remember Sonic NOT raping the day vote was against Cloud.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

You know.. I am actually afraid of all of these Final Fantasy VII spinoffs.. This will make a good chance of one of them being disappointing.... Well, I don't think Advent Children will be disappointing but FFVII: DC might be one..

*still waiting for SE to remake Final Fantasy VII for ps2*

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

DoC looks strikingly similar to Devil May Cry from an artwork perspective. Funny enough, the genre of the title hasn't been confirmed yet.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Here's what we got to look forward to from Final Fantasy 7:

Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children (DVD)
Final Fantasy 7: Before Crisis (Cellphone)
Final Fantasy 7: Dirge of Cerberus (PS2)

A game that was once just on the PSX is now having three titles in the course of a year to two years.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

The only occasion that I can remember Sonic NOT raping the day vote was against Cloud.

I suppose he wouldn't rape the day vote against Clinkeroth then?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I think that with the techknowlegy they have today they should make a FF7 remake.

Better graphics, voice acting, more materia, more summons, more random monsters, Cloud automatically runs, more chocobo colors, 2 extra playable characters. More cinema scenes, Sephiroth as playable character because there's a flashback of his childhood.
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

The only occasion that I can remember Sonic NOT raping the day vote was against Cloud.

I suppose he wouldn't rape the day vote against Clinkeroth then?

Doubtful. There's competitors, and then there's Clinkeroth. I do think he'll have some trouble getting a significant day vote against a much more well known Samus, now that MP is out, but we'll see.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

DoC looks strikingly similar to Devil May Cry from an artwork perspective. Funny enough, the genre of the title hasn't been confirmed yet.

That was my first thought of the game.. It might be a ripoff of DMC..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

Final Fantasy 7: Dirge of Cerberus (PS2)

That's new. I'll have to look it up.
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I think that with the techknowlegy they have today they should make a FF7 remake.

Not yet, I'd rather wait until the PS3 came out.

PS2 is already of age, and making a remake on it isn't the best of ideas.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Bah, Dirge of Cerberus also stars Vincent. When do I get to play Sephiroth, damn it?
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Geez, I may feel compelled to get a ps3 if they do remake FFVII for it... and I'm definatly getting Dirge of the Cerebus when it comes out.
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

maybe, but I think it would be just fine on the PS2. Also, I think they should add more games at the Golden Saucer. It would only take up one disk!
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My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn

If there ever was to be a remake of Final Fantasy VII with the same of everything except for the much better graphic enhancement..... then .. Surely Final Fantasy VII will win all of the Spring Contests for a time to come..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

How about remaking FF6 or CT first? I think sprites are a little more outdated than CBPS...
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

FFVI/CT for DS? Square did ask people what games they'd like to see remade, remember?
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This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

How about remaking FF6 or CT first? I think sprites are a little more outdated than CBPS...

I'm not sure what CBPS stands for, but I think FF6 and CT look LESS dated than FF VII. Those games both have perfectly good 2-d graphics, whereas FF VII has very primitive 3-d graphics. (The pre-rendered/pre-drawn backgrounds do look pretty good). Of course, the blockiness of the characters is part of the charm, but I definitely wouldn't mind if they improved the quality of the fmv sequences, since the characters looked terrible in most of them.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 54/56
Current Oracle ranking: 3rd | Pick: Sonic with 58.15%

Crappy Blocky Polygon Style.
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Final Fantasy 7: Before Crisis (Cellphone)

That's just beyond absurd, imo. Who plays serious games on their cellphone? and no snake and mecha bunny don't count, are they really expecting much out of that one, if so, I can't see it being successful

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I agree with Kaxon, CT and FF VI are fine, since they're on 2D.

All they need to remake FF VII is upgrade the graphics engine.

Add voice acting if they must, but I really hate dubbing.

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Real monsters are not those who has the power to destroy, but those who has the intention to do so.

Taken from www.adventchildren.net

200,000 users have registered in Japan for before Crisis on title's launch. This makes Before Crisis the top selling cellphone game ever.

Well.. It's nothing special since it is for cellphones but it might not be that bad.. hehe.. But yeah, it's pretty much rediculous to me too..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

I'd take a FF7 remake over a CT/FFVI one.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Despite Ryu doing roughly what he's expected too I still can't help but dislike the outcome of this match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

As a Crono fan, I have zero sympathy for Sonic on that score.

That's why I said ONE of the toughest. Crono's ranks up there because he has been underseeded in every contest, so he has to face elite characters before he should. However, Sonic has had to face characters on his path that have been underseeded (Tidus, Zero, Aeris, Ryu...Even Ken Masters was underseeded by a good bit).
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Hyper Mario. I help your cause. I bought MMAC.

HM, I'm kinda surprised you're disapointed.... i mean Ryu basically fufilled you're desire (well no he didn't cuz as I recall you said it would be a 53-47 match) for how well he should do, and well sonic is still gaining so maybe you'll feel even more depressed later... Or is it just because Ryu was leading at one point early in the poll?
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

Yeah, I mean come on, there's a little for me and a little for you. Sonic failing to get a wire-to-wire lead means something, although it's mostly moral.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

Well, Ryu is going to fall short of the 45% he was hoping for. Plus, he doesn't like the fact that a Sega character can beat a Capcom character.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I wonder if Ryu is going to start gaining soon? Would it make sense for him to get the night vote on a Sega character?
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Well, Sonic has been gaining pretty steadily until recently. He's still going up a little bit, but they're mostly stalled right now.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

You know, it's going to be funny if/when a few people drop off the leaderboard after this match, because no one fell after Squall/Kirby or Auron/Ness, and now some people will likely fall in a match involving a member of the noble nine. Ironic, no?
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Just imagine if Master Chief had beaten Frog. This would've been the second year in a row that the last perfect fell on a match involving Sonic.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

That would've been interesting to see. Maybe people would start calling sonic the "perfect buster"?
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

Hyper Mario. I help your cause. I bought MMAC.

Heroic Mario. ;) Anyway, so you'll be votin' Mega Man now I assume? Or moreso than before? That's where MMAC has to work, heh.

And Leonheart pretty much got my feelings on this match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

You know.. for Auron vs. Sephiroth... I hope Sephiroth breaks 75% on Auron just so i can see Vivi > Auron..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

HM, if it's any consolation to you, just know that MM would mop the floor wiht sonic to the tune of 62-38 (and he's gonna win the contest so that isn't all that bad=D)
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

Heroic Mario. ;) Anyway, so you'll be votin' Mega Man now I assume? Or moreso than before? That's where MMAC has to work, heh.

Or Delusional Mario. Both work. =D
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Dr. Wily for Sc2k5! In MM1, when you select his stage and he gets in his spaceship and raises his eyebrows up and down?

CLASSIC!

But I still can't beat him...
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Summer Contest Match 42 Sephiroth vs. Vivi
Status 40/43 Points: 051 Next: Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Ryu

I prefer Delusional Mega Man. I think I was the one who came up with that, too.

I miss the Spring Contest days of Desperate Link though.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Heh. I'm sure you'd dislike that one Dragon, since you are a big Sonic fan from what I gather, but I would enjoy seeing it. =p

And yes, we must get Dr. Wily in for 2005. I pushed for him this year, but I obviously fell short.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Delusional Mario, heh. The memories...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Not only must we get him in, we must get him to the Sprite Round! Dr. Wily's Sprite > all (except for MM's Elec Man suit)
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Summer Contest Match 42 Sephiroth vs. Vivi
Status 40/43 Points: 051 Next: Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Ryu

I think this is about the time when Ryu starts gaining some. He took it down from 56.55% to 56.51%; even lowered the lead by about 8.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I prefer Delusional Mega Man. I think I was the one who came up with that, too.

I miss the Spring Contest days of Desperate Link though.

Desperate Link?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Speaking of which, how many brackets do you think will be falling from the perfects and -1 pointers?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Hey.. Can someone bump the Prophet Challenge match for Tails vs. Dante??

*looks at karma* ... Don't have enough to search for the topic..

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

I hope that Dante kicks Tails' ass so hard for knocking out VJ. He has shunned this contest for life...

Sonic is winning, awesome!

Anyways, I think Sora's pic is badass, and Ryu H. does look like the Prince of Persia....wait, does that deter or help him?! O_o'

Anyways, Sora is going to win. He's the main character of a Square game, and Ryu H. was not able to walk all over Jill, at all. It's dumb.

Who came up with the idea that Jill > Sora, anyways? I was told Jill did better against Squall than Sora did against Aeris. But I also was told Aeris > Squall, and then there's the possiblity that Sora suffered SFF from Aeris.

Sora couldn't have more hope for a win....




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*Thanks Heroic Mario*

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SC2K4 Winner: Cloud Strife
Next Victim: Squall Leonhart

Who came up with the idea that Jill > Sora, anyways?

The X-sts have her ahead of him with no SFF adjusted and estimated SFF adjustments. I'd be shocked if the SFF is greater than what was estimated.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Tai, you told me yourself that picking Sora was a mistake.

Jill is a midcarder, Sora is around Ramza.

Would you have any trouble picking Ryu > Ramza? I wouldn't.
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Summer Contest Match 42 Sephiroth vs. Vivi
Status 40/43 Points: 051 Next: Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Ryu

Desperate Link?

Yeah, all of his desperate rallying for Wind Waker against StarCraft, even hoping that the original Legend of Zelda wouldn't get slaughtered as badly by Mario 3, constantly pushing for Link to the Past against CT all day, and then being behind Ocarina of Time against Final Fantasy VII...until that match started anyway. Yeah, 4 straight days of that ended up bringing about Desperate Link.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I hope I don't fall too behind after Ryu H. vs. Sora since I already lost that match
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Summer 2004 Contest 51/56 Sonic vs. Ryu

Tai, you told me yourself that picking Sora was a mistake.

When I meant that, I meant because I thought he was going to lose when people talked of Ryu vs Jill being a 3-point match.....but I thought the winner would flop so badly, Sora would be able to knock the winner out. :-(

So...in terms of who I thought would win, I don't think I made a mistake...but I might lose 2 points I really need badly..;_;
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Okay, now it's in full swing. Let's see how much Ryu can shave off in roughly 5 hours.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Yeah, 4 straight days of that ended up bringing about Desperate Link.

Starcraft over LoZ:WW
SSBM over FFX
SMB3 over LoZ
CT over LoZ:LttP
FF7 over LoZ:OoT

Not four in a row...but close enough for me not to give ya hell 'bout it.
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~courtesy of mr wednesday

Oh right, forgot all about FFX-SSBM. The board was in such an uproar after StarCraft-Wind Waker that it was as if that match never happened, despite how close it was. The only board discussion I remember about that is...

Most unbalanced picture ever.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

And despite this pic, Tidus alone almost fended off the entire army of Nintendo icons.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 054/056 - Matches: 42/44 - Rank: 00087/33221 - Today: Sonic - Tomorrow: Dante

I know your name is Heroic Mario. I was thinking of two different people at the same time and typed a mix of both.

1.48% until 45%. Go Ryu!
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

He's not going back under 45% you crazy man!
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Sonic vs. Ryu - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (54/56)

I was just thinking, and I think that the Vivi/Sephiroth match has already told us how Sora/Ryu H will play out. Think about it. Square characters from different games simply cannot seem to SFF each other all that much. If it didn't happen during Vivi/Sephiroth, then why would it happen during Sora/Aeris? It doesn't seem reasonable to think that Square SFF would affect Sora/Aeris, but not Vivi/Sephiroth. I think that Sora is about as strong as the 2003 standings show him, and perhaps only underestimate him by a percent or two. Ryu H should win with relative ease (53-47) considering the board hype.
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I concur.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

I agree to that as well.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I already said that. <_<
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

The worst Square SFF we've seen is Crono/Magus with 15.57%, and they're from the same game. Crono/Kefka looks to be significantly less SFF, with 8.44% being the ceiling. Come tomorrow, I think we'll find out that Auron/Cloud was under 3%. Vivi/Seph was nonexistant. Seph/Cloud was nonexistant. Square SFF seems to be significantly less among the new age FF than old age FF, and even Crono/Kefka was very low compared to Nintendo SFF. For Sora to win, he would need to have suffered 7-8% of SFF versus Sora, and that seems very unreasonable, given these numbers.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

suffered 7-8% of SFF versus Sora,

Sora should read Aeris. D'oh.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

hmm first:
And despite this pic, Tidus alone almost fended off the entire army of Nintendo icons.

hooray for handgrenades and horse shoes!

and also, vivi vs sephiroth is different than aeris vs sora, because sora isn't from final fantasy and I'm sure a great deal of his voters bought the game for the Disney element to it. Most people probably didn't even know about the ff characters in it, at least that's how it was advertised. I think Sora's got a shot at winning, but I'ld be more surprised to see Sora win than Ryu, and this comes from someone who does have Sora in their bracket.
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One thing that's different about Aeris is she makes a cameo in Sora's game. Someone might like KH a lot but still like Aeris better than Sora.

Don't count him out yet.
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but aeris and sora were in the same game.
aeris may be more famous for ff7...but if you played kingdom hearts, you're familiar with both characters.

...that still probably didn't amount for a full 8%, though.
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I've actually come to a conclusion/theory about Square SFF, although someone already mentioned this. Square has a lot of popular games, but each has their own sets of characters. So even though Square fans will support Square characters, their loyalty within Square may be split due to people liking a particular game best. Each Square game has their diehards.

With Nintendo, it's totally different. ALL of the characters have been in MULTIPLE games, so they've all had enough exposure to become saturated. So what ends up happening is everyone falling in line behind Link and Mario (although Samus is quickly dispelling all of that).
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

right, I"m not saying there wasn't sff, just that vivi/sephiroth imo isn't the best comparison, despite it being square vs square, hmm, which even technically, it isn't...
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I think the only SFF Aeris got on Sora was from those who had already played FFVII and liked her better beforehand. Those who started with Kingdom Hearts and haven't played FFVII at all would probably be more inclined to vote for Sora because Aerith doesn't have much of a role in the game, unless they just don't like Sora.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

right, I"m not saying there wasn't sff, just that vivi/sephiroth imo isn't the best comparison, despite it being square vs square, hmm, which even technically, it isn't...

So, how is Vivi/Seph not Square/Square?

but aeris and sora were in the same game.
aeris may be more famous for ff7...but if you played kingdom hearts, you're familiar with both characters.

...that still probably didn't amount for a full 8%, though.

I haven't played KH, so I don't know how prominent a role Aeris plays in it, but she got one of the lowest boosts out of all Square characters involved in KH, so I wouldn't put much stock in it.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

I've never been one to believe there was that much SFF in Aeris vs Sora. It just didn't seem right for there to be.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

And 44% is looking mighty nice right now for the great street fighter.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I think the Max Ryu would get is 44.5%
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Summer 2004 Contest 51/56 Sonic vs. Ryu

Nothing shameful in that.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

I was just thinking, and I think that the Vivi/Sephiroth match has already told us how Sora/Ryu H will play out. Think about it. Square characters from different games simply cannot seem to SFF each other all that much. If it didn't happen during Vivi/Sephiroth, then why would it happen during Sora/Aeris? It doesn't seem reasonable to think that Square SFF would affect Sora/Aeris, but not Vivi/Sephiroth. I think that Sora is about as strong as the 2003 standings show him, and perhaps only underestimate him by a percent or two. Ryu H should win with relative ease (53-47) considering the board hype.

Ulti, think about it. When Kingdom Hearts first came out, many people (myself included, honestly) thought it was going to be a stupid game, that it would blow, simply because it featured Disney characters. Obviously they weren't that bad, but the real reason that I, and just about everyone I know, bought the game was because it features Final Fantasy characters.

I'm willing to bet that 90% or more people who have played Kingdom Hearts have also played Final Fantasy VII or at least know who Aeris, Cloud, and Sephiroth are. Why in the heck would a rabid Square fanboy choose Sora over Aeris, and why would anyone who wants to win the contest choose Sora over Aeris?

I can't believe you guys think there is no SFF in there...

Obviously, Sephiroth has decreased. I just can't see it happening any other way. Besides, Sephiroth hit about what he was projected, by the Extrapolated Standings. Thats gotta margin of error of what, 3% or so?
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Dub T's Sc2k4 bracket : 55 of 584
Next Match: Dante vs. Viewtiful Joe (Tails)

Yeah, that's obviously the only explanation. I mean, Sephiroth only underperformed by less than 1%.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

I'm willing to bet that 90% or more people who have played Kingdom Hearts have also played Final Fantasy VII or at least know who Aeris, Cloud, and Sephiroth are. Why in the heck would a rabid Square fanboy choose Sora over Aeris, and why would anyone who wants to win the contest choose Sora over Aeris?

If everybody that played KH was already familiar with Cloud and Seph, then explain the KHF?
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

If everybody that played KH was already familiar with Cloud and Seph, then explain the KHF?

Honestly, I don't believe the KHF is as strong as people give it credit for.

Sure, it did introduce a new generation of gamers to who Cloud and Sephiroth were, but I don't think it had that big of an effect.

My thinking is this: Sc2k2 had about 60 thousand votes per match. The match between Link and Cloud got around 135,000 if my memory serves correct. Thats a LOT OF FREAKING VOTES that were added.
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Dub T's Sc2k4 bracket : 55 of 584
Next Match: Dante vs. Viewtiful Joe (Tails)

147,637, I think was the exact number.
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So, the increased voters affected Cloud, Seph, and Squall the most randomly?
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

My thinking is this: Sc2k2 had about 60 thousand votes per match. The match between Link and Cloud got around 135,000 if my memory serves correct. Thats a LOT OF FREAKING VOTES that were added.

By the end of the 2002 contest, the vote totals were around 2003 levels. Yeah, that's right. Sephiroth went from just above 40% on Link in 2002 to being nearly equal with him in 2003 with similar vote totals.
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Mega Man and Heroic Mario are well on their way to winning the Summer Contest...
But Squall will still win!

Ryu's got Sonic down to just about what he would be predicted to get (56.06% to the current 56.07%). Happy with the results so far and hopefully to see him get as close as possible to 45%.

One more thing before I'm off for tonight, Dante will be getting 61% in this match and kicking some two tailed fox ass. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Dante will be getting 61% in this match and kicking some two tailed fox ass. ;)

That's close enough to 60% to be okay with me. Heck going higher makes my theory better, so go 61%+!
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

Anything higher would make me extremely happy. Dante just kicks ass.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

Ryu's got three hours to makeup 1.05%, heh. Night all.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire

So, how is Vivi/Seph not Square/Square?

No, I worded it poorly, I suppose, I meant Aeris/Sora.

And I would be willing to bet almost anything that more people bought kh for disney than ff. FF was not advertised at all in the commercials for the game, and truth be told, they're not the central part of the story, its really more disney anyway. The FF characters greatly helped, but they didn't make or break the game.
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By the end of the 2002 contest, the vote totals were around 2003 levels. Yeah, that's right. Sephiroth went from just above 40% on Link in 2002 to being nearly equal with him in 2003 with similar vote totals.

No, it wasn't even close. Go look at the totals. The biggest matches in 2k2 outside of Cloud/Mario barely passed the 100k mark. Almost EVERY match in 2k3 approached the 100k mark. You can't compare.... Sonic is beating Ryu 55/45 and has an 8000 vote lead. Link and Sephiroth got 48% on Cloud and each lost by nearly 5000 votes. The numbers in 2k3 were ridiculously high. They won't have to overcome that many votes to win this year....

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Ryu's back above 44%.
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Current Pick: Sonic; Current Vote: Ryu; Points: 53/56

Ryu is increasing for sure, but at this rate, he won't break 45%.

Oh well, I guess in the end this match plays almost exactly like what the X-stats predicted.

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No, it wasn't even close. Go look at the totals. The biggest matches in 2k2 outside of Cloud/Mario barely passed the 100k mark. Almost EVERY match in 2k3 approached the 100k mark. You can't compare

Actually, you can easily compare. Just look at both Seph vs. Mega Man matches. 27000 extra votes, and less than 30 are for Mega Man? And you're still arguing that there's no KHF? Come on.

Comparing the vote totals between the two contests was brilliant. Kudos to whoever said it first.
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Comparing the vote totals between the two contests was brilliant. Kudos to whoever said it first.

I'll take the credit for that, if you don't mind, Ulti. =P
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Dub T's Sc2k4 bracket : 55 of 584
Next Match: Dante vs. Viewtiful Joe (Tails)

Actually, you can easily compare. Just look at both Seph vs. Mega Man matches. 27000 extra votes, and less than 30 are for Mega Man? And you're still arguing that there's no KHF? Come on.

That's my favorite stat that shows off the KHF, though I despise it 'cuz Mega Man gets stomped so badly when he was expected to keep it close, at least. This match is interesting in another way though...

...remember the theory of the WDF? The theory about how Sephiroth over-performed against Link because so many people didn't want to see an all-Nintendo final? Here's my question: where's the WDF here? I would have figured that, if people were so quick to assume that Nintendo gets anti-voted for winning a second time in the Final Four, people would check out Mega Man's performance against Sephiroth last year when there was an all-Square final.

Not only did Mega Man not get any WDF-like votes to prevent an all-Square final, but Sephiroth out-did himself in how well he defeated Mega Man. Anybody got any explainations on why WDF occured in 2k2, but not 2k3? I ask this never believing in the WDF in the first place, so I hope to disprove it some with this.
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So Ryu is going to very slowly continue to gain until the night closes, which will take the vote difference away from my favor for MMX's contest and give the win to Paratrooper who is the only person to guess with 600 votes of me on this match. Sadness.
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Heh
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This has to set a new record for the longest a stats topic has stayed up after hitting the 490th post. Random people usually flood the hell out of it by this point.
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If I wasn't a regular, this is where I would flood the topic with posts like '500?' But since I am not an assclown, I will instead say wow... Ryu actually won both ends of the night vote... as in actually won, rather than just lowering the percentage. Sonic, thanx for playing; maybe one day you will get an ass-easy draw and make it out of the elite eight.
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Why does everyone complain about Sonic getting a hard draw every year? He isn't good enough to reach the round of eight, especially considering that over 15% of the field can beat him.
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Mario, Samus, Link, Cloud, Sephy, Crono, Mega Man, Solid Snake, and even Magus could likely take down Sonic. That's 9/63. 14.28% of the field, pretty much.
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If anyone should complain about a rough draw in past contests, it's the Magus, Crono and Mario fans, who have repeatedly gotten shafted.

Magus deserves a sweet sixteen match against Sonic or Snake with a real possibility of making the elite eight. Crono and Mario both deserve a definate Elite Eight with a sincere chance at the Final Four.

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We should round it to 15%, just to make Sonic look even worse =)
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*hears Sonic fans running with pitchforks*

O_o
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GO DW5 HERO
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lol
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