Yes, I'm aware at how early this topic was posted. But I'll only be around paringly for the next few days, so I might as well keep ahead of myself.

Stats websites:

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

Stats topics:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm

MMXcalibur's Prophet Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

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I might as well start posting in these. So... how bout that SFF, eh? Real ***** I hear.
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President Icon, now in Super Sexy Classic Mode.
Lettuce Kefka > Icon > All/Thuo < Kapik- lettuce Kefka

Fourt...uh, I better not finish that.

Link's layin' Ganon out, period. Absolutely bloddy awful.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

I expected Ganondorf to suffer due to the whole SFF thing, but lower than CATS? This is insane. Ganondorf may not even break 10,000 votes. Ouch.
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"You need a spanking!" - Mystere (Lunar 2)
^_~

Well, he'll get more votes than Tanner... of course, it's impossible not to.

Funny how the best match so far had a crap picture, and the worst match has the best picture.

Ganondorf should break 10,000. A shame that'll be the only accomplishment he could have in this match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Ganon soooo doesn't deserve this...
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

I like Ganon a lot. Its a shame he's losing so badly. I mean even CATS did better.

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SC2K4: 32/34 points Tomorrow's Pick: Yoshi

This has me worried. Should I be worried about Link, seeing this now? This would be considered quite an overperformance, would it not?
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

A 22% overperformance. But it is due to SFF, so it's nothing to get too alarmed about.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

There's really no way of knowing just how strong(er) Link is this year until the Elite 8/Final Four. This match is basically a massive SFF with Yoshi/Luigi to follow next round and then even Mario in the Elite 8. So unless Crono beats Mario, you won't know on whether or not to fear Link until he meets Mega Man.

But by that match, his time in the contest is up. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

HM, what would you do if MM only got 40% on Link? I know you are confident that it won't happen, but suppose it does.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I'd be disappointed. Not just because he lost, but because he wasn't able to even go back to his 2002 level of 42%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I think Mega Man will get 44-46% on Link this year.
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SC2k4 Current Score: 31/34 Yoshi vs Luigi
The undisputed master of the mountains of Shiv

Tagged for future references

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"I love being asian, therefore I love my chopsticks" - Best. Quote. Ever.

I can see Mega Man get UP TO 44%, but I'll be in awe if he does any better than that. I fully expect better than 40% though, I know that much.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

*clap, clap* At the very least you guys seem to believe he'll be doing well against Link. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I really hope Crono beats Mario, I wanna see Link's power before Mega Man.
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Current SC2K4 Score: 31/32
COWS are for Milking, not GAMES

Even though I know this is SFF, it's still pretty damn scary. Link is making Ganondorf look WORSE then CATS...
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

I think MM will get 40%. Shouldn't be much of a prob.

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SC2K4: 32/34 points Tomorrow's Pick: Yoshi

I want Mario to beat Crono; not only would my favorite win and my bracket look better, but it would also make Link/Mega Man THAT much more anticipated.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Not much good can come out of Mario and beating Crono. We just get a re-play of the 2002 finals, and the possibility of a 4th MvC.

If Crono wins though....
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

The original Link/Mario match was a slaughter, I'd prefer Crono taking on Link and getting let's see...42%.
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Lonely Angel
Summer 2004 Contest Prediction: Match 33: Link wins 71.79%-28.21%

Crono wouldn't do any better than Magus. he might even do worse.

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SC2K4: 32/34 points Tomorrow's Pick: Yoshi

I am sure Crono would do better than Magus against Link.. Crono > Magus in terms of popularity, just you wait and see..

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"I love being asian, therefore I love my chopsticks" - Best. Quote. Ever.

If Link/Mario was a slaughter, then Link sodomized Magus.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1002

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1353

Not much of a difference.
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Lonely Angel
Summer 2004 Contest Prediction: Match 33: Link wins 71.79%-28.21%

I'd still rather be slaughtered than sodomized though, heh.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

I believe Crono could break 40% on Link, 45% would be a push though.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

Crono simply CAN'T get 45% on Link. Mark my words.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

The only person I could see getting above 45% on Link would be the Blue Bomber (outside of the Big 3).
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I agree with HM.. Megaman probably has the highest chance of getting at 45% on Link than anyone else besides Cloud Strife or Sephiroth

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"I love being asian, therefore I love my chopsticks" - Best. Quote. Ever.

Without SFF, I can see Samus doin' it too. Lara Croft did not drop that much. Cloud would have been expected to get about 22% on her last year, then Samus does almost 5% better yesterday...that's not just Lara dropping, rest assured of that.

I'm not even confident Mega Man would beat Samus anymore, but I'm gonna wait until later on in the contest before I say anything for sure.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

I doubt that crono could get 45% (not in the least cause, srry HM, I have doubts about megamans ability to get that high). MM is the only one outside of the big three with half a chance to get that high on link. but the only thing that really annoys me about todays match is that alucard's screwed in Xs next year (he'd be projected to get like 5% on link O_o).
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We should stop importing foreign oil. We should just get it from Mexico! George W. Bush

That's why I said 45% was a push. Crono would have to be on a really good day to get that.

And I'm waiting for Mega/Tidus to say anything more about MM.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

Heh, I wouldn't put it past Samus either. She didn't seem to suffer much from SFF against Link, and with her looking more powerful than ever, she could get 45% as well.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I anxiously await Mega Man vs. Tidus.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Quick question:

What surprised you more, Link's near 88% victory over Ganondorf or Samus's 82.39% victory over Lara?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Samus over Lara. It didn't stop amazing me as she kept dominating; I expected a 30-70 match.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

did I miss something, or is there something wrong with the other topic?

and Master Chief will beat Frog!
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Today's Survivor topic can be found here, Please vote : )http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16070956

What surprised you more, Link's near 88% victory over Ganondorf or Samus's 82.39% victory over Lara?

Today. I expected Samus to get around 75% on Lara. Ganon though, I expected him to do a little worse then Magus, but not perform like CATS.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

Samus' percentage on Lara was crazy. Today is too, but we can attribute it to massive SFF, but that looked like it was all Samus the other day.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Well they both owned the Spread, obviously. o_O
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I think today is flat-out amazing. I never thought I'd see the day when DK's SFF against Mario looked minor.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Yeah, I didn't expect SFF to effect Ganon this much. I am flabergastered. So much so that I actually used that word.
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HK-47, much like my wang-size, was nearly doubled by Sora!
The Icon was owned by Celes42

Yeah, I didn't expect SFF to effect Ganon this much. I am flabergastered. So much so that I actually used that word.

So much so that you spoke in first person.

*gasp*
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I couldn't get enough of seeing so many zero's so I took a screenshot:

http://img17.exs.cx/img17/5977/ZeroGalore.jpg
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Heh, nice shot.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

If you haven't noticed, I've done so for the past month...ish. I'm also talking about the contest in the Stats Discussion topic. I've changed so much.

*Bows head in shame*
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HK-47, much like my wang-size, was nearly doubled by Sora!
The Icon was owned by Celes42

Well said, icon. Samus's win over Lara is still much more shocking to me though, just because SFF can vary in many degrees and I knew Ganon wouldn't be able to keep from being tripled.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

HM.. What percent do you think Megaman is going to get on Tidus?

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"I love being asian, therefore I love my chopsticks" - Best. Quote. Ever.

Cool. XD

Well Link won't be getting the 76,000 in this match. But he'll probably have the highest individual total for the round.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Samus did do rather well yesterday. I mean, didn't she get like 76% on Isaac? Issac did better than Lara. That's pathetic. Issac doesn't even talk in the first game.

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SC2K4: 32/34 points Tomorrow's Pick: Yoshi

Have each of these topics reached 500? Because you're reaching the 25000 mark if they have.
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My old man can't get a drink because his old man won't give a bear to another old man!!! Let's get him!!...wait....why are we getting him?

Ganon getting tripled wouldn't have surprised me, but this...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Well some reached 501 or 502... I think one reached 503.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

HM.. What percent do you think Megaman is going to get on Tidus?

Between 60-65%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yeah, that'll probably be Mega Man's prediction percentage.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

AHH!

Damn FireFox and the Image extension! I did NOT want to see that HM!

*cries and washes his eyes out with soap*
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

AHH!

Damn FireFox and the Image extension! I did NOT want to see that HM!

*cries and washes his eyes out with soap*

Poor Moltar. =(
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Heh... Mario has the VBA.
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HK-47, much like my wang-size, was nearly doubled by Sora!
The Icon was owned by Celes42

Mega Man can get 60% on Tidus, give or take a percent.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

He can, but he won't. For Mega Man to stand a chance of winning this tournament, he MUST get 65% or better on Tidus. Link has already shown that he's as strong as ever, so anything less than that will not do.

And if Heroic Mario disagrees, I'll just say that Tidus would have had to have increased in proportion to Shadow due to Final Fantasy X-2 by a large amount, something I know he does not believe.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

You people do realize Part 48 has only 420+ replies right?
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros
SC2K4 Score: 31/34 Next Pick: Yoshi

I was about to say the same thing. I only created this because I won't be here to see the other topic get to 500 during Yoshi/Luigi.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Up this one goes.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I'd like to see Raiden again, especially if the rumors about his involvement in MGS3 are true. He deserves a second chance, and I feel he could do pretty well.
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The race to revitalize Figaro Desert is on! Find out how at www.rpgdl.com

Let's just hope Luigi or Yoshi can help avenge Ganondorf and not be destroied this badly.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

We didn't even need Luigi/Yoshi to get here.
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"All in all, sometimes it's a wonder that pesants[sic] actually live long enough to learn how to farm....."-mysterygilgamesh4
{34}

I don't...I mean he was alright, but Solid and Liquid are better Contest material than him. IMO
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

But who would you rather see in this contest? Raiden or liquid snake? Raiden or Grey fox?

To the person talking about raiden anyway.
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SC2K4 score: Matches: 29/33. Points: 30/34
Future prediction: Luigi, Crono, Mario

I can definitely see Yoshi (or Luigi) doing better than Ganondorf is today.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I've... never played a Metal Gear Solid game. The original Metal Gear yes, but none since.

I simply think that if we had more info about Raiden, he would be ranked a good 20+ spots higher than he currently is.
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"All in all, sometimes it's a wonder that pesants[sic] actually live long enough to learn how to farm....."-mysterygilgamesh4
{34}

Anyways, to the contest, I hope luigi can win. Yoshi is ranked higher IIRC, but luigi has a new game, so we'll see.

And, just as SM64 fell to OOT in 77-23 fashion due to SFF, luigi or yoshi will probably not see 30%.
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SC2K4 score: Matches: 29/33. Points: 30/34
Future prediction: Luigi, Crono, Mario

Does anyone reading this think Luigi will win (or has a good chance)?
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pso rules.

Hmmm, what is so good about Link over Gannondorf I wonder... He doesn't even look that cool in the pic or anything, I can't understand how SO many people would perfer him over Gannondorf.
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Summer Contest (31/32) (44th): Today: Link

I've always seen Yoshi as the victor in this match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Well, I have him winning. But I do think yoshi is a slight favorite.

IIRC, Yoshi outranks luigi, by about 3% or so. But since last year, luigi has a new game, mario and luigi: The superstar saga, so I think he might be able to make that up. We'll see in a few hours here.
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SC2K4 score: Matches: 29/33. Points: 30/34
Future prediction: Luigi, Crono, Mario

I have confidence in Luigi. Kind of. Okay, it's shaky, but I just feel uncomfortable siding with Yoshi for this match, where as I don't get that uneasy feeling with picking Luigi.

Link's performance today is awesome. In the non-SFF adjusted rankings, CATS could be above Ganondorf. XD

And I'm very happy to see Samus, one of my favorite characters doing so well. I would not mind it at all if she beat Cloud/Seph. :)

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

Luigi's definately got a shot, but I can say with more confidence that Yoshi should win this.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Same here, HM. And IMO Luigi's pic is repulsive in this next one, not that it mattters much... but still.
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Summer Contest (31/32) (44th): Today: Link

Link's performance today is awesome. In the non-SFF adjusted rankings, CATS could be above Ganondorf. XD

I think the fact that Link would be projected to get 81% on Cloud if these results were based 100% on his strength and not affected by SFF is more amazing XD.

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

The SFF should not be very extreme in Yoshi-Luigi. They're relatively close in strength, meaning there should not be a very large disparity in who the fanbase favors. I could see Yoshi winning with as much as 60% and Luigi with as much as 55.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I'm expecting a 53-47 match regardless of the winner.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Yeah. Link versus Cloud is looking to be very interesting. For one thing, Samus looks like she may be able to challenge Cloud this year. She would need a little luck, of course, but that match doesn't really look like a gimme anymore.

My theory: If we see what I call "Reggie-lution Link" for the rest of this contest, rather than Celda or another incarnation, he may very well kick everyone's asses and take their names.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

Agreed, Leonhart...I think Yoshi'll pull it out with about 53%, maybe 54%, but it could go anywhere in that range ya mentioned.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

A certain robot has already reserved plans to "kick ass and take names" in this contest.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

*FFVII spoilers*



Come on, HM. Get your facts straight. Cloud's a clone, not a robot.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Cloud isn't getting out of his own division.

FF %:

Link defeats Mega Man, 55-45
Sephiroth defeats Samus, 57-43

Link defeats Sephiroth 52-48
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

Cloud isn't getting out of his own division.

I'd disagree.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

A certain robot has already reserved plans to "kick ass and take names" in this contest.

I'm afraid KOS-MOS was eliminated in the first round. I know, I was pissed off by it as well. She should have won.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

I'd disagree about you disagreeing

^_~
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

I hate everyone who does that to my posts when I fail to clarify who I'm speaking of. =p

On that note, I enjoyed Ryu's beating of KOS-MOS.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

HM, if Link gets a pic like he got today in his bout with Mega Man, admit that even YOU will have a tough time voting against him. =P
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First Round Score: 30/32, Second Round Score: 2/2
My Winner: Sephiroth, My Next Pick: Yoshi, Holy **** Ganon got pwned.

I'm not even a big fan of Mega Man, but I'd still vote for him over Link with that picture even with the box art from MM1.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

lmao, MM1 box art is awesome. It draws votes, just like Lettuce Kefka and Duke Milkem'
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

HM, if Link gets a pic like he got today in his bout with Mega Man, admit that even YOU will have a tough time voting against him. =P

I wouldn't really have a tough time, especially if something alone the lines of my picture were used:

http://img11.exs.cx/img11/6157/MegaManVSLink2.jpg

Tell me Mega Man isn't a badass in that picture (yes, it is X, shut up).
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

On that note, I enjoyed Ryu's beating of KOS-MOS.

And I enjoyed StarCraft embarrassing you and Wind Waker. We'll probably see more of this.

HM, if Link gets a pic like he got today in his bout with Mega Man, admit that even YOU will have a tough time voting against him. =P

He'd still vote MM, but that is the power of Reggie-lution Link. I know I'm voting Mega Man in that match, but there could be some people who are swayed.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

Mega Man could be pictureless and I'd still vote him over anybody else, even if it's against my bracket.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

"Image Not Available" would be preferable to Mega Man 1 box art.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

You're all crazy. Obviously HM was talking about the L-1000. I mean, the way he's been going today is just inhuman.
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The race to revitalize Figaro Desert is on! Find out how at www.rpgdl.com

XD imagine how bad non sff adjusted stats would make alucard look.
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"I demand a moderator"
"I demand pie!" - OooO

"My name is Reggie, and I'm addicted to my Blackberry. In fact, to me, it's a Crackberry." - Reggie

Link is unbeatable with that man backing him. :D

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

XD imagine how bad non sff adjusted stats would make alucard look.

ROFL

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

Guybrush would be down to pathetic Tanner-like levels if Mario gets around 75% on Bowser. That's Alucard's only hope to avoid being 63rd.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

http://img72.exs.cx/img72/9250/CloudVSephiroth1.jpg

You all shall fear Advent Children Cloud and Sephiroth. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

And if Mario gets past Crono to face Link. Guybrush is pushed even farther down!
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

That's not too bad, actually.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Cloud looks iight...Seph just looks like a girlie man.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

Yeah. Sephiroth close-up is a different story however.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

That's pretty good. I like your Megaman vs Tidus more though.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Heh. I liked that one too. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I can't believe some people like Cloud AC close-up

He has turned into the cute midget with spikey blonde hair into the disgruntled guy with a japanese face, and BLEACH BLONDE HAIR. BLEACH!!! SCREW THAT!
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

First "Into" was supposed to be "From"
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

I just read Ulti's Crono analysis in the Prophet topic. I think I'm going to make it a point to make fun of him during that match, since I'm a big Crono fan, and since we haven't been getting along lately. :D

As for Cloud/Sephiroth, I'm pulling for Sephiroth to win, as I'm not at all a fan of Cloud. The pic will invariably favor Sephiroth, if the pic makes a difference. I mean come on, it's Sephiroth. The entire reason he's famous is because of how cool he looked in FF7.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

I've never had a problem with how Cloud looked in Advent Children.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I'm pulling for Sephiroth to win

And I for Cloud, the superior of the two.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

The casual voter loves Bat-Cloud for some reason, and if Sephiroth gets an Advent Children picture, I wouldn't give him the advantage over a picture of Cloud drawn by a 5-year-old.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Ugh....bleach blonde hair is just ugly. It looks awful, I hope he did that to his hair to torture himself for losing his chance at nailing Tifa.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

Two years of solitude could do that to a man.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

If the prediction percentage for this match isn't insanely high, I'm going to be quite disappointed >_<.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Well, Cloud hasn't been entirely in solitude. He's been living with orphans. That's part of the reason he decides to fight.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

And I for Cloud, the superior of the two.

I find it humorous that two people with almost identical taste in game genres and series are destined to be forever opposed because we like different games and characters from those categories.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

Bah. I had forgotten Square decided to change that on me recently. Let's just say he hasn't been filled with joy for two years.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Link needs about 3500, or so, more votes in about 1 hour and 40 minutes to beat out Sephiroth's gained votes. Think he'll do it?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I think voting will slow down too much for Link to do it, but it'll be close.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Whoops! That's suppose to be 2500 not 3500.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Sephiroth already had over 75,000 at this time.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I think Link has outperformed Sephiroth, regardless of the vote totals. If he can almost get as many votes against GANON as Sephiroth got against Tanner, he's done his job.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

Link needs 2719 votes in 1 hour and 30 minutes in order to beat Sephiroth's votes. Should be pretty close.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

This is completely random and has nothing to do with a match, but while we wait for the next match you have to watch this:

http://www.webmoron.net/egoraptor/getoutofhere/megaman.gif

It's hilarious. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Heroic Mario, shouldn't Link be on the left in that picture?

He should. I've messed things like that up a few times.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I just saw that over at Aga's boards...
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

Sephiroth went up against Sly, not Tanner. Not that it makes it any less of an accomplishment if Link beats his vote total.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

Link needs 1966 more votes in an hour to take down Sephiroth's total. Doesn't look like it'll be happening.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

It's a shame Slowflake is probably going to be right when he said that Luigi vs Yoshi will be over after the first 5 minutes. I was kinda hoping for another exciting match before I start school, but oh well.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

XD at the Mega Man gif.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

Sorry for posting late, I got home late and a rushed my p/review

Match XXII: (2) Samus vs. (15) Lara Review

Samus beat Lara, 82.39% - 17.61%

Wow, just wow. Not only did Samus do better then we thought she would. She downright destroys Lara. If this was just all Samus going up we may have a new champion (That would rock). Lara must’ve dropped a lot, but Samus could also have gone up with a few new games under her belt. Also I think that Samus is now the heavy favorite of winning this division with this performance.

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Summer 2004 Contest 27/32 Link vs. Ganondorf

Match XXXIV: (5) Yoshi vs. (4) Luigi Preview

Past Performances:

Yoshi: 2002

Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Yoshi: 2003

Defeated Conker, 66.46% - 33.54%
Lost to Bowser, 43.66% - 56.34%
Ranked: 23rd

Yoshi: 2004

Defeated Ryo, 76.40% - 23.60%

Luigi: 2002

Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Luigi: 2003

Defeated Ratchet, 74.54% - 25.46%
Lost to Squall, 39.79% - 60.21%
Ranked: 30th

Luigi: 2004

Defeated Pac-Man, 67.73% - 32.27%

Analysis:

Well nothing interesting happened on Yoshi vs. Ryo. Yoshi who’s ranked near Dante did about the same performance to Ryo that Dante did so it looks like Yoshi has maintained his strength. But on the other hand Luigi’s match with Pac-Man wasn’t even suppose to break 60%, but he ended up doubling him showing that the Crono vs. Kefka SFF factor never happened, but in the Knuckles vs. Kefka match it showed that there was SFF and then some. Unless Mario & Luigi helped him a lot something must be wrong. Now from last round it looks like he’s ranked 10th which is weird because that’s where some people thought he was ranked, but I thought he was closer to Knuckles at that time.

This match was thought to be Yoshi winning yet having a hard time beating Luigi. But with last round and the Knuckles/Kefka match things have turned for Luigi. This match could go either way, but many of us would agree that whoever wins this match will be the third strongest Mario character, unless Luigi breaks 57% on Yoshi. This match is still talked about on the stats topic even though this match will be up soon, yet none of us have come with an agreement on who’s the favorite. It’s anybody’s game.

Let’s put the stats away and have the almighty question, which do gamers like better Yoshi or Luigi. Even though there isn’t really an answer it’s probably going to be the one thing that will decide this match. Since both characters are from the same series I think it’s up to Mario fans and the casual on who they like more and if you ask me it will probably be the factor of the winner of the match. So I guess this match will be one of those close SFF matches.

Charmander’s Bracket: Yoshi

Charmander’s Prediction: Yoshi wins, 52.12%

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Summer 2004 Contest 27/32 Link vs. Ganondorf

Sorry for posting late, I got home late and I rushed my p/review

sigh not a good day for me
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Summer 2004 Contest 27/32 Link vs. Ganondorf

The beginning better be worth staying up for...
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

XD at the Mega Man gif.

All robotics begins with a Metool and ends with a Metool.

This is the truth!
This is my belief!
...at least for now.

=p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

And then you quote Chrono Trigger. Heh.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

I'm on a quoting rampage tonight.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

This is ridiculous. You sound like chapters from a self-help booklet.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

*crys*

My perfect bracket is probably about to fall, poor girl never got to experience #1 ><

Oh well.....I will feel better when Crono lays into Magus.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

ROFL, CATS will end up getting a better % on Link then Ganondorf did.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

the pre-poll seems to be very close so this match might even be close for the first couple of min.
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Summer 2004 Contest 27/32 Link vs. Ganondorf

Maybe...I don't know, I'm getting the feeling it will be 55/45 one way or the other. Yoshi might jump out to an early lead and drop the ball, or he might hold it. Either way, I see Yoshi jumping up.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 33/33 Next Tough Pick: Luigi over Yoshi

Yoshi might jump out to an early lead and drop the ball

That's what I expect. The closest thing that comes to mind (for some reason) is EB vs Doom, where EB had the lead for a very short amount of time, but enough to scare some people, then lost it in the first 15 minute update and never got back since.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

My faith is Luigi is wavering now, but Go Luigi.

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SC2k4: Rank: T3, Score: 30/32, Picked: Link, Voted: Link
World Record Holder: Solstice (NES), Super Mario World (SNES)

For whatever reason, my faith in him is getting stronger.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Luigi will win because I have Yoshi winning.

That's what always happens to me on "close" matches.

Well, except for Ryu Vs. Jill. But one more minute and Jill probably would have won. So... my bad luck streak could still be in progress.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

I based my pick of Yoshi only on personal experiences where I've seen many more people like Yoshi than Luigi. Maybe it's flawed but as I made my pick I never saw a reason otherwise.

And this match needs to get started so I can log off and go play more CT.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

Oh no, the poll hasn't closed! Ganondorf pulls a Mario!

<_<

>_>

Yeah, the poll is a little late switching.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

Oh yes Ceej, make us wait...*sigh*
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Link vs. Ganondorf - Bracket: Link - Vote: Ganon (30/32)

Link 87.9% 77000
Ganondorf 12.1% 10604

Sweet.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Link broke 77,000 votes. Now he'd just need less than 605 to beat Sephiroth's total. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

maybe that's what CJayC is doing

lol
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Summer 2004 Contest 27/32 Link vs. Ganondorf

Goodness, end Ganondorf's misery already.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

well that was a waste staying up

I'll give CJayC 20 more min. before giving up
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Summer 2004 Contest 27/32 Link vs. Ganondorf

eek, if this poll is close, they're won't be many happy people should it come down to the last minutes...
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Link needs less than 500 now.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Less than 400 now.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

When I voted, Luigi had a 2 vote lead. Now Yoshi is running with it.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

We actually lost a perfect on that match. Damn.

96.07% prediction percentage. Is that high for a second round match?
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Arkenaga | aganekrA
It's all the Big Bang's fault - it started everything.

Luigi jumped out to an early lead for a few seconds and then Yoshi came rushing back and has nearly built up a 100 vote lead already.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yeah, the guy who had Tidus winning it all picked Ganon to win.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Was it the Tidus champion guy that we lost?

Not surprising...
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

Isn't Yoshi bigger in Japan anyways? I meant to ask this earlier....
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Yoshi up by 100. I'm out now, and I only plan to see this match uglier than it is now. I told you all.

Yoshi will win!
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

Cool, with the Tidus guy out, I move up one spot! Hurrah. And this little pattern just kind of looks cool.

1 J Doggiedog 34 Sephiroth
2 Tomoyo 34 Sephiroth
3 EMIN3M 34 Cloud Strife
4 Unlizened RAVe 34 Cloud Strife
5 Tjian 34 Link
6 goku z 34 Link


Nice goku, right bext to me. :)
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Happiness is like peeing on yourself. Everyone can see it, but only you feel it's warmth.

Yoshi is out to a 154 vote lead right now.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

*Yawn* How boring... I was hoping for the Next Ryu/Jill. I suppose it's still possible but Yoshi is pulling away fast.
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Summer Contest (33/34) (43rd): Today: Yoshi

Go Yoshi!
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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

Nothing will beatJill's final rush in Ryu/Jill, nothing! Even though I think this one will be tight... not that tight.. tight like a pair opf jeans, not spandex.
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BIGPUN999 is all man, even in the bedroom *Tee Hee*
There you go you snot nosed punk!

hooray for Yoshi!!

i feel great because i cast the vote that put Yoshi in the lead:


Yoshi 50.56% 45
Luigi 49.44% 44
TOTAL VOTES 89

yay!! i'm guessing Luigi will push it to within 55%, but for now i can go back to sleep.

btw - if Luigi doesn't come back much, then Pac-Man looks REALLY pathetic.

oh, and i can't believe that one of the perfects actually picked Ganondorf over Link. i'm guessing that we will lose half of our remaining perfects on today's match.

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

I thought it would be closer

Yoshi is getting closer to 200
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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

I guess an upset pick is just that, one that is not likely to happen. Oh well.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Up over 200 now.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Nothing will beatJill's final rush in Ryu/Jill, nothing! Even though I think this one will be tight... not that tight.. tight like a pair opf jeans, not spandex.

Ryu/Jill was more like, tight like a pair of spandex on the 575 lb. forty year-old who thinks she's still in the 80's and no one is mean enough to point out she is too fat or she might just kill herself because she is that disgusting and overweight.
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Summer Contest (33/34) (43rd): Today: Yoshi

I dont get it. Yoshi is a Pokemon. (he talks like a Pokemon....) Pokemon is hated, yet Yoshi is liked? okay, whatever....
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I must move on. I wanted to say I was sorry. Please forgive me, wherever you are.

Nah, I doubt we'll lose more than a couple on this match. I'm sure the majority took Yoshi.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Yoshi is far better than any Pokemon.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Ryu/Jill was more like, tight like a pair of spandex on the 575 lb. forty year-old who thinks she's still in the 80's and no one is mean enough to point out she is too fat or she might just kill herself because she is that disgusting and overweight.

Exactly.
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BIGPUN999 is all man, even in the bedroom *Tee Hee*
There you go you snot nosed punk!

I'm sure plenty went with Luigi myself.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

...Why? The majority of them were smart enough to get this far unless it was all luck. Yoshi winning this one should be an almost consensus pick.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I don't see why Yoshi was such an obvious pick. I think the prediction % will be 50/50 myself.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

All you had to do was some simple statistic deduction. Ulti showed it in his analysis. Squall and Bowser are relatively equal. Yoshi did better in his match than Luigi did despite being SFF'd.

Yeah, I figured Yoshi would probably win, but I couldn't pick against Luigi when he at least stood a slim chance of winning.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

And the percentages right now are oddly similar to Bowser-Yoshi last year.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Yes, but most people don't look at the stats as much as we do. Even the ones near the top of the list don't put as much thought in their brackets as we do. To get an idea at what the prediction % might be, we shouldn't look past the basics: these are two Nintendo characters with nearly identical seeds that both lost in the second round last year. It shouldn't be too high in anyone's favor.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

exactly yoblazer, and does anyone know how to view the previous update charts?
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A consensus pick? Definitely not. You have Luigi, Mario's brother, and you have Yoshi, Mario's little riding pal. There is enough fans of each and both being well-known enough to make this more of a 50-50 deal than anything. These people don't look at stats and even the board members weren't exactly massively favoring Yoshi.

I doubt Yoshi will have more than 55% of the brackets in his favor.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

http://sc2k4.com/update.php?pollid=1751

These? Just change the last two numbers "17XX".
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yoshi doesn't seem to be pulling away much anymore . . .
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Summer Contest (33/34) (43rd): Today: Yoshi

yup, thank you : )
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Today's Survivor topic can be found here, Please vote : )http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16070956

He's not pushing in large, hasn't been doing that for a while, but he is managing to further his lead. He's over 300 right now, with the occasional stall.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

They both had similar losing percentages as well, around 40%. One lost to a Final Fantasy character and one lost to the Mario series villain.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I showed my friend the bracket. and she said if she made one she would have picked Luigi. She is a casual gamer. I see the brackets split evenly on this one.
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I must move on. I wanted to say I was sorry. Please forgive me, wherever you are.

What's the prediction for the rest of the day? Has Luigi got more of an edge during the day?

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/9365/yoshiluigi.jpg

Yoshi vs Luigi!
Super Mario Bros. Movie Style!







>_>


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Arkenaga | aganekrA
It's all the Big Bang's fault - it started everything.

I have to play FFTA because of this

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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I am Sir Chris, and I approved of this message
(FFTA will always be the worst game in my eyes even if above statement says otherwise)

Seems like I've won the sig bet Goku :D
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31/31 points in sc2004
tomorrow's pick: Samus--->perfect first round

Yeah right Chris, just like you did that time when FFVII won the contest. *rolls eyes*
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*Steinershocker*
Mighty Morphin' Power Jesus!

This is looking good. I don't see any trouble ahead, save for Ryu Hayabusa versus Sora. I've only missed one match, and my winner Link is looking stronger then ever.

Crono better beat Mario, though.

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"Yeah, there seems to be some sort of pink...my god...my god! IT ATE JOHNSON! ~BluesASC on Kirbyzilla

55-45? What kind of an unthinkable blowout is this?

Oh wait, wait.... I picked Yoshi to win with 54.99% of the vote in my analysis. Never mind.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Oveer 1000 votes already, Luigi can't won't a comeback
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"I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." 32/34

Quick note before I go to work. I do not need someone to make the 50th topic. I get off of work at 5, so even if this one manages to fill up by then, don't worry about it.

Actually, never mind. I'll just make it now.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Yay! Go Yoshi! Get'em!

56% is a little unexpected though, especially since the match with Pac-Man. Maybe a little bit of SFF...? Just a little.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

Hello all! Glad to see my bracket is still in good shape. Oh, and I didn't expect Yoshi to be doing this well today...I was thinking maybe 53%ish, not 56%. Wow. Go Yoshi?
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 32/34, Next Winner: Yoshi

A perfect fell last night...HAHAHA What a fool.

I predict today 5 will fall, putting us in single digits.

As for Luigi...stick a fork in him, he is done. Next!
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Steve Illumina: Official Satirical Commentator of SC2K4
Perfects to Fall: 14 SC2K4: 33/36 (Go FROG!)

On another note, yesterday's match was the easiest second round match to call EVER, surpassing... Link vs. Fox.

I'd like to think most of the guys who picked Link to lose here would be to Alucard... if this is true, then more people would have CATS coming out of this 4-pack than Ganondorf. ;)
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

From the fanboy who loves his hero...
To the cosplayer dressed in garb...
For gamers near and gamers far...
Who take this contest close to heart...
Well now its time to mock thee...
For satire is my game...
Read this thread and you will see...
Steve Illumina Speaks!

Yep folks, I am BACK! More irreverent than ever...prepared to bash all that the elites, newbies, and casuals hold dear, all in the name of mockery and self glorification, while wishing all along for nothing more than leaderboard adulation and reverence for the hallowed name of Steve Illumina...

So without further adieu...I shall speak!

Round XXXV: Crono vs Magus

Bracket: Crono
Preference: Magus!
Guest Elite Pick of the Day: CHICHIRIMUYO
Chich's Pick: Crono
Oracle %: 64.06 in favor of Crono
Prophet: 16752 votes...
Would Rather Pick: FROG!
Brackets Above Me to Fall: 762 (Was 775 yesterday!)

Comments: The overrated pride of old school Squaresoft takes on last year's upstart tourney upset king.

This grudge match of 16 bit RPG icons is SO not a grudge match...it is a joke. It is over before it begins, like all same game hero-villain matchups. Ceej, could you not see how predictable this all is? The kiddies may love you for it...even sending you envelope art and tribute letters on blogs nobody reads...but us real gamers...we want something with more substance. Something to really evoke the passions of the elites and casuals, the fanboys and nerdboys...and that is something like...

MERLE vs LUCCA

Yep, now that is a match that will draw not only votes, but also raise the boiling blood of the fanboys to new levels. Arguments about who has the greater role in Antipode magic would engulf the board prior to this heated inter-Chrono matchup.

Think about it...a bracket with 64 entirely new entrants. No more of the same tired matchups with guys like Crono and Knuckles...nor the same lame fodder like Ryo and Gordon. Get 64 lesser known supporting RPG characters, fighting game guys and gals, 2nd tier action stars, and even old retro stuff that dont start with "Pac". The contest would be revived, interest would shoot up, and elites like myself would not get semi-bored writing over and over about generic Crono, girlie man Cloud, and the like.

I would so love writing about guys like Vincent, Quistis, Raiden, Zangief, Maximo, Rayne, Dr. Wily, Ghaleon, Geno, Centipede, B.J. Blastiwicz, Turok, Abobo, Sigma, Bubble Man, Chun Li, Kitana and Bayou Billy!

Ah, now thats a contest. And even if you fanboys wont admit it publically...deep down, you know I am right...

Moving right along now...to the Analysis!

Results: Ho-hum....boring! The match pictures are more exciting than the matches here! Crono over Magus easily, as Rule #2.4: The Rule of Heroes over Villains, takes effect again. Look for a 65-35 split, cause Magus is well liked enough to draw votes...

Quotes: "Being a mute is the way to be!" -Crono, "Good luck Frog...make Cyrus proud!" -Magus
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Steve Illumina: Official Satirical Commentator of SC2K4
Perfects to Fall: 14 SC2K4: 33/36 (Go FROG!)

This is looking good. I don't see any trouble ahead, save for Ryu Hayabusa versus Sora. I've only missed one match, and my winner Link is looking stronger then ever.

Crono better beat Mario, though.

My thoughts exactly. Though I have Sora taking that 4-pack =X
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Noooo, Yoshi sucks!!! I don't wanna lose another point, I must get $400!!! ;_;

Oh yeah, and Yoshi sucks...
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The guy with Tidus lost yesterday. Heh...silly perfects.

Let's go, Yoshi; I wanna climb the leaderboard some more!
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

I hope many of those with 32,33 and 34 score picked Luigi to win, damn I want to be in the top 50 once before Frog kills it with losing to Solid Snake.
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"I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." 32/34

Yoshi > all Pokemon. He is your master!

Noooo, Yoshi sucks!!! I don't wanna lose another point, I must get $400!!! ;_;

Oh yeah, and Yoshi sucks...

Geeze Tai, we told you from Day 1, Yoshi would have this. But noooo, you don't want us to try and help you. You don't want the board to cost you 2 points...

I had no doubts Yoshi was coming out of this ahead, though I am thinking Luigi will pull him down a little.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

Noooo, Yoshi sucks!!! I don't wanna lose another point, I must get $400!!! ;_;

Oh yeah, and Yoshi sucks...

I thought they convinced you to change it. You switched back?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Geeze Tai, we told you from Day 1, Yoshi would have this. But noooo, you don't want us to try and help you. You don't want the board to cost you 2 points...

*shrugs* Everybody tried to tell me that Viewtiful Joe would beat Tails, too. Sometimes, it's just good sense not to listen to the board...but Yoshi over Luigi wasn't a time to ignore us, heh.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Yeah, yeah, he switched back, said something about how he'd rather be wrong with his favorite pick than see Luigi win and kick himself for not backing his favorite, or something like that.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 32/34, Next Winner: Yoshi

Heh. Yoshi is my favorite of the two. =)
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I couldn't care less about either of them, myself. I'm not a big Nintendo fan.
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***Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04***
Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Contest Score: 32/34, Next Winner: Yoshi

Same, Yoshi is in my top 5, while Luigi is a bit further down...
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

he'd rather be wrong with his favorite pick than see Luigi win and kick himself for not backing his favorite

That's why I picked Sonic over Samus :D
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"I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." 32/34

*weeps*

I can take my sig beating like a man. I can't wait for Link to absolutely DESTROY Yoshi next round. Sweet revenge.

Same on Samus vs Ryu, because I have Sora coming out of that four-pack.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 34/36 (Yoshi) Pick: Crono over Magus

Yoshi may be spared more than Ganondorf, just because he's from a different series. Link would be expected to get 73% on him... I believe Yoshi can at least break 20% with room to spare.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

I dont get why people like the Pokemon Yoshi. EVERYONE I know in real life likes Luigi better. So thats why I picked him.
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I must move on. I wanted to say I was sorry. Please forgive me, wherever you are.

I agree with Slowflake and say that Yoshi will be able to break 80%.. the beating won't be as bad as the beating Link handed Ganondorf

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"I love being asian, therefore I love my chopsticks" - Best. Quote. Ever.

Heh, yesterday I had a good talk with my brother and best friend about the GameFAQs polls (there casual voters). I also asked them about some of the closer matches coming up. First was Yoshi vs. Luigi...they said Weegi. I said Yoshi.

Score one for Moltar! As we have said in the past, Yoshi is the fan-favorite on this site.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

odd, cause I know my friend said she thought Luigi was more of a fan favorite. (at least at fanfiction sites and stuff like that)
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I must move on. I wanted to say I was sorry. Please forgive me, wherever you are.

Oh well. Mario and Bowser are much, much more popular than that stupid perfect bracket stealing dinosaur
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 34/36 (Yoshi) Pick: Crono over Magus

Well my brother likes Yoshi better then Luigi, but he likes Mario games
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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

I am still uber confident that I will win the contest if Sephiroth beats Cloud.

May be a long shot, but I doubt I would have won putting Cloud over Sephiroth like most people. If Sephiroth wins...I may only miss one more match in this contest, Sora vs Ryu.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 34/36 (Yoshi) Pick: Crono over Magus

Hey now, stop with all the Yoshi diss.

All the signs were pointing to Yoshi in this match. The stats, the board games. The only thing Luigi had going for him was that he was Mario's brother. But Squall showed us that being Mario's brother means nothing except a walk out of Round 1.

And Ryu will defeat Sora.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

Eh, I should go pull myself away from here for a bit and go play some games I rented.

Transformers, Prince of Persia and Viewtiful Joe (PS2)
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

If ryu beats sora then you won't win, i'll be one point ahead of you :P
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*WINNER OF THE SUMMER CONTEST 2004*

That's assuming you picked samus to beat sonic and crono to beat mario.
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*WINNER OF THE SUMMER CONTEST 2004*

Well, my upset special pick has failed. When I originally made the pick, I was hoping for SFF to go Luigi's way, then when the Circle of Death revealed itself, I was hoping he was the statistical favorite. Either way, I'm still happy I backed the little green guy, but I have a feeling that there are people with my exact same bracket except for this match...
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Current Pick: Luigi; Current Vote: Luigi; Points: 33/34
Circle of Death: Pac Man/Luigi/Kefka/Crono/Knuckles/Yoshi...

I don't expect a lot of SFF in Link-Yoshi. I think the dino can pull 25% against Link.

And when I was talking about Yoshi being a nearly consensus pick, I was talking about the perfects. In the overall picture, it'll probably be evenly split. I can see 3-4 perfects losing today.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

*Yawns* Bring on a close match dammit! My bracket's ****ed, so at least let's partake in some drama.
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I'm a Czar! Whee!

Nice! I was a little worried about Luigi possibly making a come back in the morning, but Yoshi has completely owned this match. =)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Before I even catch up in this topic, I just finished hte last, and I want to comment on the idiocy I saw in the last posts of 48.

Raiden not being able to hold his own against a non-metal gear character? Are you people stoned? MGS2 ranked higher than MGS1, and with what Link has done to Ganon I think we should all be willing to admit that Raiden may be a solid mid-carder.

He does deserve to comeback, and I'd be willing to bet almost anything that if he does and doesn't face Snake then he will shock most people.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

To think I could've had two perfect rounds if Tails wouldn't have won. >>
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Thank you Chichiri! I don't care about him myself, whether he comes back or not, but it's just another thing the X-stats might be dead wrong on if he does.
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"All in all, sometimes it's a wonder that pesants[sic] actually live long enough to learn how to farm....."-mysterygilgamesh4
{34}

Goku, I'm curious, what's the rest of your bracket then? It sounds very simmiliar to mine, since I have minus 2 in the first round, and will definately miss Ryu vs Sora, and picked Sephiroth to win.
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Cold hearted orb, that rules the night; Remove the colors from my sight; Red is grey, and yellow white; but we decide which is right, and which is an illusion

Good to see Yoshi do his job. Still not sure when I picked Yoshi, but apparently some subconscious form of wisdom imparted itself unto me and gave me the hook-up, much like the Tails over Joe match.

Keep up the good work, Yoshi.
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

I've never played MGS2, and only saw MGS1 being played for an hour or so, maybe more. Not my type of game, but I do have to stick up for Raiden because he has a great deal of potential and casting him aside without ever giving him a fair chance is stupid. I'll let ceej get away with those actions so he can mix up the bracket some, but you should all know better by now than to disregard a character whose full potential we've never seen.

Then again, if you say Raiden shouldn't come back I expect that you had either chosen Ness to lose or you were going to but were convinced otherwise (by me, of course).
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

I don't think Raiden would be as strong as Liquid Snake, but he'd be a solid mid-carder who would win a match given the right draw.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Yeah, I would give the edge to Liquid as well, just for the name he carries and his kick ass VA. Nevertheless, Raiden is being highly underestimated.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Looking at yesterday's matchup.. Link might be MUCH stronger than I thought. My SC2K4 prediction might be in danger..

Whoever wins today is gonna be slaughtered next round.. 85-15, I'd say, wow..

Then again, Zelda games looked impossibly strong in the earlier rounds in the spring contest, and look at how that turned out.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

It's hard to me to see Yoshi breaking 20% on Link, truth be told. He might, but I fully expect him to be tripled, at least. *looks at extrapolated rankings* Yep, definately tripled, and I think Link'll hit 80% again.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Link always has a ridiculously easy path out of his division.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Oh, and I can see Raiden anywhere between Alucard and Kirby.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

If Link does strong against Yoshi.. he could beat Crono, and I fear it would be convincingly.

Crono should beat Magus tomorrow, that's for sure.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

If Link does strong against Yoshi.. he could beat Crono, and I fear it would be convincingly.

1) Link will beat Crono convincingly regardless.
2) Don't let the SFF fool ya.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Nah, Yoshi at least has a bit of his own fanbase to draw from, unlike Ganondorf who seemingly has to rely on rollovers from Link. As far as I can tell, Mario didn't suffer very much SFF against him, so I don't think Yoshi will either.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I can see Yoshi breaking 20% on Link. He actually does have a fanbase outside of Zelda that will support him, and while it won't be anything great I have no doubt he'll manage to break 20%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yoshi's not as strong as Ganondorf, but I realize that he's got some Mario fanbase backing him. Even with that, I think alot of Yoshi's fans will drop him for Link, and I dare think Link'll hit 80% in his third match in a row.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Yoshi should break 20%.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

I dare think Link'll hit 80% in his third match in a row.

I don't think that's ever happened before...
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

Nah, Yoshi's not Donkey Kong. His fanbase won't abandon him at the drop of a hat. He's a big fan favorite. I think he'll still get around 25% on Link.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Link's road: Fodder, SFF, SFF, another possible SFF match.

Lovely isn't it?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Heh, I think Samus could break 80% in all 3 of her matches as well. Both she and Link have ridiculously easy paths to the Elite Eight.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

It hasn't happened before, which would make this monumental if it happens...and it's very possible.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

You know something? Cloud could do it too.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Next year Cjay should put Link Sephy and Cloud all on the same side of the bracket, so only one can come out to the finals. That would make things the hardest to predict IMO. That way all the new matches with Mario, Crono, Samus, Snake, and whoever can be explored on the other side.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:43.55 || HRC 37,179.9 ||

Link's road: Fodder, SFF, SFF, another possible SFF match.

Lovely isn't it?

Even if it was Crono, then Solid Snake, then Samus, then Mega Man, it would still be easy for him to make it to the final four. But I see your point ^_^.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Heroic Mario, don't even think that. I would break down and cry if Cloud did it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Well, looks like Pac-Man either took a drop between 2002 and 2003 or he took a drop between 2003 and 2004.

Neither of them really make any sense except that Penny Arcade made a comic in 2002 during one of Pac-Man's matches, but I don't remember it or the news post saying anything like "Vote for Pac-Man." It was just telling people about the contest.
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"Heh heh...The wind. . .it is blowing."--Ganondorf Dragmire

Random thought:

I think it's time to kick Donkey Kong out of future contests.
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Well, nevermind, it'd be kind of hard for Cloud to get that much SFF on Squall. And yeah, I was hoping that they'd all be on the same half of the bracket this year.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Three 80% in a row? 80% against Squall? Leonhart would die of sadness. =(
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I think it's time to kick Donkey Kong out of future contests.

Not at all. He's got a few games coming out this year, and all of them look very interesting.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Even if it was Crono, then Solid Snake, then Samus, then Mega Man, it would still be easy for him to make it to the final four.

You named characters that could break 40% on him, as opposed to a path with characters who will struggle to get 20. There's a big difference between being a lock for the Final Four and having a ridiculously easy way there.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Even if it was Crono, then Solid Snake, then Samus, then Mega Man, it would still be easy for him to make it to the final four. But I see your point ^_^

There'd be a difference there. You've got three people he's never faced before and could easily break over 40% on him and you know how I feel on Mega Man. But it's people getting 40%+ on him as opposed to wondering if they can break 20%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Whoa, it's like deja vu.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Not too many people can get 40% on him. You guys need to realize that barring a different style of seeding, the Big 3 would always have a very easy path into the Elite 8.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

"1) Link will beat Crono convincingly regardless."

What's your deffinition of convincing? If you mean that Link will win 45-55 than yeah, he could win decissively... but considering the stats, for Link/Crono that's not the numbers most are expecting. It'll prove to be a moral victory, if not a real one, for Crono AND Mario when Crono faces Link.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Both she and Link have ridiculously easy paths to the Elite Eight.

I wouldn't say Link has an easy path to the Elite 8. I mean, for a character like Link? Yeah, but Ganondorf and Yoshi aren't exactly weak characters. Link is just going to SFF his way to Round 4, and that's what makes his path so easy.

Now Lara, Sam and Ryu? Yeah, that is ridiculosly easy.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

Well, if Link's path consists of Nintendo characters, it becomes too easy for him.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Not too many people can get 40% on him. You guys need to realize that barring a different style of seeding, the Big 3 would always have a very easy path into the Elite 8.

Yes, but there's a difference between people who aren't of your same fanbase going up against you and one's that are. It's just that Link's road has always been insanely easy in comparison to the other #1 seeds.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Okay. I checked out Penny Arcade, and it turns out that the Pac-Man comic wasn't done until AFTER Pac-Man lost to Scorpion, which means that Penny Arcade played no role at all in his score.

Which makes his drop even weirder.
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"Heh heh...The wind. . .it is blowing."--Ganondorf Dragmire

Cloud has an easier road to the elite 8 than Link. Two weaklings and an SFF match against an otherwise strong character.
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BtT: 3:57.10 | HRC: 50,053.8 ft OV aaaargh
Crash.

Duke > CATS
Vyse < Ganondorf
Squall > Yoshi
Sephiroth > Mario

Er, what were you saying?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Or /Crono, whichever you prefer. <<
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

None of the big 3 have difficult paths. Sephiroth has low-end fodder and two SFF matches as well.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Cloud has Duke, Vyse and Squall

Link has CATS, Ganondorf and Yoshi.

Nintendo SFF>>>Square SFF
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"I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." 32/34

I think HM and Leonhart are arguing on behalf of the other characters, not Link. We all know Link will blast his way into the Elite 8 regardless of the draw, but seeing what happened to Ganondorf, a possible top 10 character, was just sad.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

In fact, Mega Man has the "hardest" set of characters to face in his division.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

You neglect Crono, good sir.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Hmm... looking at it now, since that one SFF match with Zero will be there Sonic could probably take the hardest path... maybe.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Crono's not a #1 seed.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Sonic always seems to get a relatively tough draw compared to the other elites, for some reason.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Poor Conker probably had the hardest path to win of anyone in the contest, methinks.

Not that he'd have a chance anyway >.>
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Luca Blight had the toughest route:

Magus -> Crono -> Mario -> Link -> Mega Man -> Cloud
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Conker and Luca Blight are basically one and the same. Just switch the order they face Crono and Magus.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Ah, I had forgot about Conker facing Crono first.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Duke > CATS
Vyse < Ganondorf
Squall > Yoshi
Sephiroth > Mario

Er, what were you saying?

Duke > CATS
Vyse < Yoshi
Squall < Ganondorf

Meh, I was thinking about it that way. Seph/Mario is irrelevant since I said elite eight, not final four.

A case could be made for Seph as well, sure. Fodder and two SFF matches, like Link.
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BtT: 3:57.10 | HRC: 50,053.8 ft OV aaaargh
Crash.

Let's talk more about SFF. I'll display every match that both characters/games are from the same company. Do you believe that there is possible SFF in these matches?

2002:

Match 15: Knuckles vs. Akira (Sega): Nope.
Match 24: Link vs. Little Mac (Nintendo): Probably not.
Match 49: Mario vs. Donkey Kong (Nintendo): Yeah, there's gotta be SFF on that match.
Match 63: Mario vs. Link (Nintendo): I think there is, but I'ts probably small.

2003:

Match 02: Pikachu vs. Fox (Nintendo): I believe so. Wasn't Pikachu ranked 60th in the extrapolated rankings? As much as I hate him, I can't imagine him being THAT weak.
Match 08: Samus vs. Isaac (Nintendo): I don't think so.
Match 11: Bowser vs. Ness (Nintendo): I believe that there was probably SFF in this match.
Match 13: Sora vs. Aeris (Square): Probably.
Match 17: Mario vs. Olimar (Nintendo): Forget it.
Match 25: Snake vs. Raiden (Konami): Maybe. Maybe not.
Match 33: Link vs. Fox (Nintendo): If there was SFF in Bowser vs. Ness, why not for this match? Pikachu could have been double SFF'd, and that could have been the reason why Pikachu was ranked so low.
Match 38: Bowser vs. Yoshi (Nintendo): I believe so, and it was probably in Bowser's favor.
Match 42: Kefka vs. Crono (Square): Looking by the past matches and today's match, nope.
Match 46: Ryu vs. Dante (Capcom): I doubt it.
Match 57: Link vs. Samus (Nintendo): Wasn't this theory disproved?
Match 63: Cloud vs. Sephiroth (Square): This match probably had little to no SFF.

Spring 2004:

Match 05: Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt (Nintendo): I don't know... but if there wasn't, could Duck Hunt have won if there was?
Match 09: Chrono Trigger vs. Secret of Mana (Square): SFF? Or no SFF? I really don't know.
Match 11: Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force (Sega): No, no SFF here.
Match 33: Mario 3 vs. Metroid (Nintendo): I do believe that there was SFF here. But, by how much?
Match 35: Donkey Kong vs. Zelda I (Nintendo): Look above
Match 37: Chrono Trigger vs. Mario RPG (Square): Here's a tough one. I believe that Mario RPG has lost many Square votes on that match.
Match 39: Zelda: LttP vs. Super Metroid (Nintendo): There was definitely SFF here, and by a lot.
Match 41: FF7 vs. Xenogears (Square): Nah.
Match 44: Zelda: OoT vs. Mario 64 (Nintendo): Please look at LttP vs. SM
Match 46: Zelda: WW vs. Metroid Prime (Nintendo): Probably, but probably not enough for MP to defeat WW if there wasn't any SFF, but enough for MP to defeat Soul Calibur & Kingdom Hearts.
Match 47: FFT Advance vs. FFX (Square): Did we underestimate FFTA?
Match 57: Mario 3 vs. Zelda I (Nintendo): Sure. And it was surely in Mario 3's favor.
Match 63: Chrono Trigger vs. FF7: I guess not...

Summer 2004:

Match 12: Zero vs. Protoman (Capcom): I believe so. I can't imagine Protoman being that weak.
Match 33: Link vs. Ganondorf (Nintendo): Beyond a doubt, yes.
Match 34: Luigi vs. Yoshi (Nintendo): Yeah, but it's in Yoshi's favor.

So, what do you think?
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Feat: SMB3, FFX, Zelda: MM, S. Calibur 2, Diablo 2

Match 25: Snake vs. Raiden (Konami): Maybe. Maybe not.

There probably was.
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BtT: 3:57.10 | HRC: 50,053.8 ft OV aaaargh
Crash.

Here's who I think has the Easiest to Hardest Paths to the Elite 8 (out of the Noble Nine)

Samus: Diffuculty, 2/10 - Lara and Sam are nothing, and Ryu is a step above fodder.

Cloud: Diffuculty, 3/10 - Duke is weak, Vyse could be weaker, and Squall will get his ass SFF'd

Link: Diffuculty, 3/10 - CATS, SFF with Ganondorf and Yoshi. Too easy.

Sephiroth: Diffuculty, 3/10 - Sly was nothing. SFF with Vivi and Auron.

Snake: Diffuculty, 5/10 - TANNER! And then Knuckles, and then MC/Frog. Not too easy, yet not that hard for Snake.

Mario: Diffuculty, 6/10 - JC is no problem. SFF with Bowser, but Crono will be a pain.

Sonic: Diffuculty, 7/10 - Terry might be no problem, but Ryu is. Then after that, he has Dante. Not too much fun.

Mega Man: Diffuculty, 7/10 - Jim was a push-over. Tidus on the other hand, is not. The FFX star is about as strong as Magus. Then he has to move onto Zero, which would be tough if there was no SFF.

Crono: Diffuculty, 9/10 - Conker shows no problem, but then you've got Magus, where SFF could occur, then Mario. Freakin' Mario.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

Yeah, looking at Link-Ganondorf yesterday, there probably was quite a bit of SFF in Snake-Raiden.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

A case could be made for Seph as well, sure. Fodder and two SFF matches, like Link.

Sephiroth's usually had quite an easy path as well, but when you have potentially one absolute fodder and two SFF matches you don't get much easier.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

For the record, we know most of the big characters are going to have an easy time making it to the Elite 8. It's just when the majority of your matches too the Elite 8 consist of nothing but SFF in your favor it doesn't even get you a "semi-tough" route.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I was just thinking about who could be our hardest hit loser this year.

If Cloud or Seph wins...

Cloud/Seph -> Link -> Mega Man -> Snake -> Frog -> MC -> Crash

Mega upsets Link?

Cloud/Seph -> Mega Man -> Link -> Crono/Mario -> Mario/Crono -> Bowser/Magus -> Guybrush/Luca

If Link or Mega wins...

Link/Mega -> Cloud -> Samus -> Sonic -> Dante -> Tails -> Joe

Samus upsets Cloud?

Link/Mega -> Samus -> Cloud/Seph -> Seph/Cloud -> Auron/Squall -> Ness/Kirby -> Jak/Kain
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

What about Alucard? ;_;
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Alucard is pretty close to Link in the bracket.
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BtT: 3:57.10 | HRC: 50,053.8 ft OV aaaargh
Crash.

I didn't mean hardest hit by SFF....
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

How late did this poll start?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

It was about 20-25 minutes late starting.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Charmander, I know we made a sig bet but, what was it again?
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Well since I'm going out tonight and don't have much time now I will let you have your sig another day. Tomorrow I will come with your sig.
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36/36 points in sc2004
tomorrow's pick: Crono

Match 08: Samus vs. Isaac (Nintendo): I don't think so.

I believe there was SFF here. How else could Felix be so much stronger then Isaac?
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

A better question is: How can Felix be so popular in the first place? He might have benefitted from anti-XBox. I doubt he could pull the same numbers against Master Chief again.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I always saw Felix being more popular than Isaac.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Felix couldn't have benefitted from anti-X-Box that much because look what MC put on Aeris.

And Felix could be stronger than Isaac, but not that much.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

I don't see why he couldn't. He played a decent role in the first game and was the main character in the second game. He's also the far more likable of the two.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

It's the fact that Master Chief did so well against Aeris that makes Felix seem like such an isolated incident. The people who anti-voted him against Felix might have voted for Aeris anyway.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Likeable? I like Isaac much more. Plus Felix is pretty ugly. And the sales figures have GS as having sold more, and the main character always does better then the others.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

And as I look at the extrapolated rankings, there are several below Felix I couldn't see him beating. If Master Chief beats Frog, I'll be convinced that performance was a fluke.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I think Samus/Isaac SFF helps solve that "isolated" incident.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

I just don't see any reason for there to have been SFF in Samus-Isaac. Just being in the same company doesn't mean instant SFF. Metroid and Golden Sun are worlds apart.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Ugly? He's got a far better appearance than Isaac, much more of badass look. As for sales you are looking at a 300,000 difference, 742,000 to 422,000. That doesn't exactly scream that Isaac should be equal or stronger than Felix. And like I said, Felix played a decent role in the original Golden Sun and then came back in The Lost Age as the main character (TLA was also the better game, but that's for another time).
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I never considered Samus/Isaac SFF...I could see that happen a lil' bit, but not more than a percent. I can see X-Box hate helpin' Felix as much as 6%, too. Felix and Isaac aren't THAT different.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

I don't see Felix's performance against Master Chief being a fluke at all. I wouldn't have a problem putting him over everyone who is under him.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

But Samus/Isaac SFF is a convienent way to explain Felix's performance. So I buy it. We have no real gauge about how well GS really can do in these contests, so we don't know how many worlds GS and Metroid really are apart. I'd like to see Felix back next year.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

I can't really see much SFF in Samus vs. Isaac either.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Felix beating Wario, Yuna, and KOS-MOS while going 50/50 with Scorpion? I don't buy that.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I can see him beating all three of those.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Ugly? He's got a far better appearance than Isaac, much more of badass look.

Anyone who think's Felix is badass really needs to play more RPGs.

As for sales you are looking at a 300,000 difference, 742,000 to 422,000. That doesn't exactly scream that Isaac should be equal or stronger than Felix. And like I said, Felix played a decent role in the original Golden Sun and then came back in The Lost Age as the main character

So, both characters were in both games.

(TLA was also the better game, but that's for another time).

Yes, but look at how many times the better game actually wins on GameFAQs.

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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Your perception is different from just about anyone else on these boards, so that doesn't say much.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Charmander, I know we made a sig bet but, what was it again?

It was on Yoshi vs. Luigi I had Yoshi you had Luigi

also if were still on Raiden, is he a sidekick or a villian in MGS2?
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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

Anyone who think's Felix is badass really needs to play more RPGs.

You obviously didn't read the post. In comparison to Isaac he has a much more badass look. You don't have to be the best when you're compared to someone like Isaac.

So, both characters were in both games.

I do believe Felix had a more involving part in the Golden Sun as opposed to Isaac's in The Lost Age, but I can't remember to well.

Yes, but look at how many times the better game actually wins on GameFAQs.

It wasn't meant to push my point, I was just throwing in the fact that TLA is better than GS.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I think he was asking for the terms of the bet.

Raiden is a main character in MGS2.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

You obviously didn't read the post. In comparison to Isaac he has a much more badass look. You don't have to be the best when you're compared to someone like Isaac.

I tend to think of the GBA as a place for the "cuter" characters. Look at Pokemon, Mario games, Kirby games, Fire Emblem, FFTA, and to a lesser extent Metriod. They are all cute, as is Isaac. Felix is not.

I do believe Felix had a more involving part in the Golden Sun as opposed to Isaac's in The Lost Age, but I can't remember to well.

I don't see it mattering.

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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

I think he was asking for the terms of the bet.

I can't really remember all I remember is that it couldn't violate the TOS

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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

Your perception is different from just about anyone else on these boards, so that doesn't say much.

I just don't see a reason as to why Felix couldn't beat the said characters. It isn't like they are anything that is hard to overcome.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

It was on Yoshi vs. Luigi I had Yoshi you had Luigi

*blink*


*blink*

*is confused*

Are you sure??? If that is the case, then I lost the sig bet though I have been supporting Yoshi this whole contest o.0;

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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

I tend to think of the GBA as a place for the "cuter" characters. Look at Pokemon, Mario games, Kirby games, Fire Emblem, FFTA, and to a lesser extent Metriod. They are all cute, as is Isaac. Felix is not.

So because Felix doesn't fall under the "cute" area, he looks worse than Isaac? I fail to see how that works. Looking at these "cute" characters, they have been on every Nintendo system (not just limited to the GBA).

I don't see it mattering.

More of a reason to like Felix as opposed to Isaac. That's what I've been trying to say the whole time. There's been plenty of reason to like him more.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

And I remembered the terms of the bet, didn't remember the actual bet. The terms were 7 days, no TOS violations, sig determined upon completion of the match.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Felix beating Wario, Yuna, and KOS-MOS while going 50/50 with Scorpion? I don't buy that.

I don't see a single one of those things happening. With Scorpion's decrease this year (assuming it's not all Auron increasing), Felix might get 50/50 on him, but not last year.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Imma join the discussion hopefully next match and beyond =D
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I am the Angel of Death. The day of purification has come.

So because Felix doesn't fall under the "cute" area, he looks worse than Isaac?

Just that he won't have a pic advantage as far as compariosn.

I fail to see how that works. Looking at these "cute" characters, they have been on every Nintendo system (not just limited to the GBA).

Yes, but a lot of them are less cute on other systems, like Mario, Luigi, DK, Link and Ganondorf, and Samus. On GBA they are cute. On other systems they are cool.

More of a reason to like Felix as opposed to Isaac. That's what I've been trying to say the whole time. There's been plenty of reason to like him more.

I just don't think there is enough to cover the difference that exists.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Just that he won't have a pic advantage as far as compariosn.

What? If both of their round 1 pictures were used against each other Felix would definitely have the picture advantage.

Yes, but a lot of them are less cute on other systems, like Mario, Luigi, DK, Link and Ganondorf, and Samus. On GBA they are cute. On other systems they are cool.

...they all look the same as they have before.

I just don't think there is enough to cover the difference that exists.

I don't see why it wouldn't be. Now, I'm not saying it should match the 61% he'd be projected to get against Isaac but it shouldn't turn into a 55-45 match.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

HM....picking Mega Man to win is one thing, but I must say, you are insane if you think Felix could beat Yuna.

Absolutley crazy.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 34/36 (Yoshi) Pick: Crono over Magus

Prove to me that Felix could not beat Yuna.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

What? If both of their round 1 pictures were used against each other Felix would definitely have the picture advantage.

I still disagree.

...they all look the same as they have before.

But they're so much cuter . . . *hugs GBA characters*

I don't see why it wouldn't be. Now, I'm not saying it should match the 61% he'd be projected to get against Isaac but it shouldn't turn into a 55-45 match.

I would see a 55-45 match. I'd expect something like this match we have today. One is the obvious pick, the other is the upset pick, and the favorite wins with 55%.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Haha, same time post at XX:13:37!
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

As it would stand this year, after having FFX-2 and them not being massively distant from each other I would take Yuna. Still, I want you to prove to me that he couldn't have done it in 2003.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

There's no way to conclusively prove it, but I couldn't imagine Golden Sun having enough of a following to propel Felix over Yuna.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

What Leonhart said.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 34/36 (Yoshi) Pick: Crono over Magus

I didn't even know Golden Sun was made by Nintendo until this contest. I don't think there could be any Samus/Isaac SFF. The only possible way would be GBA owners who didn't know who Samus was before and own or have played Metroid Fusion and Golden Sun. But I doubt that would make much of a difference....
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

We can't prove Felix'd win, we can't prove Yuna'd win.

I'd take Yuna without thinking though.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

What Leonhart said.

Well then don't call me crazy if you can't give me reasoning as to why it would've happened that year. I could see Felix beating Yuna, KOS-MOS, and Wario but all in close matches. I could also see him losing a couple of those.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Not to mention that Felix isn't even a full percent higher than Yuna in the rankings. That can easily be made up, and in a close match between a GBA RPG and Final Fantasy, I'll take the latter.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

For what it's worth, at least you can play as Isaac in TLA.
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"Heh heh...The wind. . .it is blowing."--Ganondorf Dragmire

Albeit, only for the last fourth of the game.
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"Heh heh...The wind. . .it is blowing."--Ganondorf Dragmire

If Isaac were to go against Master Chief last year, I bet he would have close to the same results as Felix did. Yes, the extrapolated doesn't agree with that, but screw the extrapolated. I still like Isaac way more than Felix. Felix in the first game is all confused and whiny. If anything, he angered me more by acting like a moron in certain parts of the game. I know Isaac isn't much better in TLA since they turned him into the cliched typical hero/party leader; but he does a way better job leading the party than Felix.

And with the artwork on how Felix looks "cooler". I still don't see how Camelot made Felix look way older than he actually is. And that is the sole reason why he looks more "bad ass". He looks like he's around his twenties in most of his artwork. If you look at the artwork at the end of the game, you see him look like a normal 15 year old or whatever age they are. So much for bad ass look there.
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Happiness is like peeing on yourself. Everyone can see it, but only you feel it's warmth.

Well, looks like Pac-Man either took a drop between 2002 and 2003 or he took a drop between 2003 and 2004.

It's most likely a drop from 03-04. Pac-Man did almost tie with Kefka last year, so unless you want to think Kefka increased also...

Wow, and 96% of the brackets had Link goreaching R3? Over twice as many brackets had Lara Croft beating Samus! o_O

There's no way to conclusively prove it, but I couldn't imagine Golden Sun having enough of a following to propel Felix over Yuna.

What about Kefka? Yuna isn't much more popular than Kefka is.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Kefka's a different story since he's not as mainstream. Before I saw his performance against Knuckles, I'd have said Felix. Now...I'd say a toss-up.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Wow, and 96% of the brackets had Link goreaching R3? Over twice as many brackets had Lara Croft beating Samus! o_O

I bet he'll beat his Round 3 record of ~84% (people predicting it correctly) against Fox in Round 3, too.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

This may be old, but Moltar said that Samus would be facing Ryu H. to get to the Elite 8.

Thats not gonna happen, for Sora will beat Ryu.
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Now is the time to choose: die and be free of pain, or live and fight your sorrow! ~Auron, Final Fantasy X

I doubt it, and he better not. I already have one mistake in Round 2 (Ryu over Sonic) and I don't need another. <_<;
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

And HM, I find it hard to believe that Yuna would lose to Isaac, Felix, or any of those other medium level fodder on there.
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Now is the time to choose: die and be free of pain, or live and fight your sorrow! ~Auron, Final Fantasy X

I think anyone who picked Ryu over Sonic and isn't perfect at this time in the contest is already out of the running. Sorry, Mumei.

And I would have picked Ken, Yuna, Wario, Kefka, Ramza, KOS-MOS, Sora, Tails, and Scorpion over Felix last year without even thinking.
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Hmph.

I think anyone who picked Ryu over Sonic and isn't perfect at this time in the contest is already out of the running. Sorry, Mumei.

Oh, it's okay. I have myself as "Ineligible" even though I was eligible. I meant to change it, but I must've forgotten about that. I never expected to win in the first place and I just wanted to do fairly well, though. ^_^

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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I wouldn't mind seeing Sora upset Hayabusa, but he would've had to suffer quite a bit of SFF against Aeris to pull it off.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I wouldn't mind seeing Sora upset Hayabusa, but he would've had to suffer quite a bit of SFF against Aeris to pull it off.

How would he NOT have had SFF against Aeris???

Saying there's no SFF in that match is like saying there's no SFF between Link and Mario.

Sora will win, he has too many advantages over Ryu.
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Sc2k4: 31 of 34
Next Match: Crono over Magus.

Let's talk more about SFF.

Match 42: Kefka vs. Crono (Square): Looking by the past matches and today's match, nope.

I thought the consensus said that Kefka's performance this year showed that there was SFF.

Match 09: Chrono Trigger vs. Secret of Mana (Square): SFF? Or no SFF? I really don't know.
Match 41: FF7 vs. Xenogears (Square): Nah.

I am about 99% certain that both of these matches featured SFF. Especially the first one... I have a real hard time seeing Secret of Mana being weaker than Earthbound or Shenmue. I also see Xenogears as not being that much weaker than FF Tactics. I'm not sure about that one though - the extrapolated rankings from the spring seem problematic to me.

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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 32/34
Current Oracle ranking: 3nd | Pick: Yoshi with 53.35%

I can't see Sora suffering more than what he would have been estimated to suffer. In which case, he scores 47% on Jill instead of 43%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Aeris was already popular before Kingdom Hearts. The SFF in that matchup would be minimal at best. Sora's fault is that he is in a game where there are TOO many popular characters (from both Square AND Disney) that draw the spotlight from himself. He isn't to Kingdom Hearts what Crono is to Chrono Trigger, where even though there are lots of popular characters, Crono still serves as the popular face of the game. I guess you COULD call it SFF, but I don't think so.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Sora upseting Ryu Hayabusa would be sad in every way you look at it. However I think that Masterchief has a better chance on Frog then Sora has to Ryu H.
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"I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." 32/34

I think both are pretty unlikely myself.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

How would he NOT have had SFF against Aeris???

Saying there's no SFF in that match is like saying there's no SFF between Link and Mario.

We never said Sora didn't suffer SFF. We just said it wasn't very much, just like in Link-Mario.

Sora will win, he has too many advantages over Ryu.

Name them, and none of them had better be the supposed "advantages" Kingdom Hearts had going into the Spring Contest.

I've said it from the beginning: Master Chief over Frog was the smartest round 2 upset pick to take. There was a high possibility of Frog being overrated, and MC is underrated anyhow.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I think Steve Illumina's idea of having a tier-two character contest is awesome. No one who's ever been in the summer contest before allowed - that would be great. He should send that to cjayc. If Cloud or Link wins again this year, we might be more likely to get something different next year.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 32/34
Current Oracle ranking: 3nd | Pick: Yoshi with 53.35%

Kicking out every character who's ever been in a contest before? That would be dull. There are only so many worthy characters that have yet to be in the contest yet, and then the rest of the slots would be filled with super-fodder.

Oh yeah, and Vincent would win.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Kicking out every character who's ever been in a contest before? That would be dull. There are only so many worthy characters that have yet to be in the contest yet, and then the rest of the slots would be filled with super-fodder.

Oh yeah, and Vincent would win.

I can see Mewtwo in the Elite 8

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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

Bass would kick some ass.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

There was a high possibility of Frog being overrated, and MC is underrated anyhow.

I wouldn't call MC underrated. I would say Frog and XBox hate were overrated.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

After the first two chapeters, I already think that Lyn should win it all then.
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"I have AgentONeal XTREME to thank for saving my life, ask me how!" "Bigboi was right. Tidus > Shadow." 34/36

If Frog was too lose it wouldn't be any lower then 47%

mark my words
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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

I wouldn't imagine any Pokemon being overly well-received here, even if it is Mewtwo. Even so, Vincent would dominate a contest like that in the way Link dominated 2002. You'd be looking at a Vincent-Geno finals.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I can see Mewtwo in the Elite 8

I definitely see Toad and Tifa doing well. Chun-li might be strong, as would whichever Starcraft character gets the nomination. If Mint from Dewprism made the contest and won a round, I would be ecstatic. =)

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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 32/34
Current Oracle ranking: 3nd | Pick: Yoshi with 53.35%

Even so, Vincent would dominate a contest like that in the way Link dominated 2002.

Was Link more dominant in 2002 or FF7 in 2004?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I would say that Master Chief is underrated in that people may look at his performance against Felix and perceive that he's somewhat weak. I've seen some say that Frog will kill MC and state that poll as reasoning.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

You'd be looking at a Vincent-Geno finals.

Pssh. Bass is where it's at.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Was Link more dominant in 2002 or FF7 in 2004?

Link in 2002 was ridiculous.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Sephiroth was the 2nd strongest character in 2002, and he barely got over 40%. Link owned anything and everything.

And Bass sucks. I wouldn't want to see him anywhere near the finals.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I'm fairly certain Bass would approach a finals position. At the very least, final four.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

If Cloud or Link wins again this year, we might be more likely to get something different next year.

I am SURE that Cloud or Link will win this year's contest.. Not Sephiroth, Megaman or anyone else.. I am not sure what CjayC will do next year but if there is to be another Best. Character. Ever, he should take both Link and Cloud out..

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"I love being asian, therefore I love my chopsticks" - Best. Quote. Ever.

Link has next year won if his game is released when it is projected too.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Kicking out every character who's ever been in a contest before? That would be dull. There are only so many worthy characters that have yet to be in the contest yet, and then the rest of the slots would be filled with super-fodder.

Well... to a lesser extent, I agree with you.

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=77859&tclass=

This is my current snubs bracket, made without much planning or any other voter input. There are quite a few names snubbed there that could still do well. I think that with enough tweaking, and the total removal of restrictions, you could come up with 64 decent entries.

Oh, and until Vinny's game comes out, Cid Highwind > Vincent Valentine.
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Will the White Wolf get his we... er, revenge this week? It's Luca Blight versus Riou Genkaku at www.rpgdl.com!

Whoa, Bass an 8?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Link has next year won if his game is released when it is projected too.

Wrong.. I am not saying that he can't but you're forgetting Kingdom Hearts 2 and Advent Children..

Anyways, about what I said earlier with taking Cloud and Link out next year, I am pretty certain the winner would be Sephiroth..

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"I love being asian, therefore I love my chopsticks" - Best. Quote. Ever.

Woo! Dan's in there. XP
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yes, that's how it should be so Vincent can kill him right off.

Even looking at that bracket, there aren't very many worthy competitors who've yet to be in a contest.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Wrong.. I am not saying that he can't but you're forgetting Kingdom Hearts 2 and Advent Children..

You don't understand, Link will win next year his game comes out when it's projected too. A rumored international release on in June 2005. Throw whatever you want at me, but it ain't going to change a damn thing should that happen.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Agreed. Not to many I'd say would to do well in the contest.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yeah, you know that you've got a bracket filled with weak characters when Sub-Zero has a 1 seed and it's actually legitimate.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Master Cheif over Frog is much more likely to occur than Sora over Ryu, imo, Master Chief over Frog isn't even much of a stretch, if at all, frog already was overrated, no matter how you look at it, and the only way he'll prove otherwise is with a STRONG showing against Master Chief. Frog reminds of KH, and he could follow the same path. Way too high expectations, wins the first round, does well in the second, but still fails to meet expectations, the only difference being, that I don't think Frog is going to rank as high as Kh did.

Sora over Jill is in my bracket, and I will be more surprised to see Sora win than Master Chief. He can do it, and sff isn't the only way. Jill could have declined some, did she have any new games this year to stop it? We can't know for sure since ryu's untested, but sora winning is at least possible.
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I still can't imagine Liquid Snake losing to Master Chief.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

The match pic is going to hurt Sora regardless of how much you believe in The Picture Factor. Remember, we're dealing with close ups here, so it'll be much tougher to make Ryu look weird (close up of ninja = no stupid poses), and much tougher to make Sora look cool at all.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

Something close-up like this would be nice:

http://img80.exs.cx/img80/8194/ng01.jpg
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/3038/ngaiden1.jpg
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Indeed it would. I love the first one especially.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

Bass? Final Four material? If he got lucky he could.

I highly doubt he'd beat Vincent/Tifa/Cid/Peach/Rikku/Geno, and he probably wouldn't be able to beat Sub-Zero or Chun-Li either.
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"Heh heh...The wind. . .it is blowing."--Ganondorf Dragmire

You forget Diddy Kong. He would be the DK of that tourney (i.e. SFFed massively by peach)
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Summer Contest Match 31 Luigi vs Yoshi
Status 31/34 Points: 033 Next: Crono vs. Magus

Sorry to switch subjects, but I personally can't wait to see the Crono/Magus pic later tonight. It should rival Link/Ganondorf in sheer coolness.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

If Crono gets the pic he had in Mario-Crono I and Magus has the one he got in Ganon-Magus, it'll be one of the best we've seen.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

No doubt about that. I'm also hoping Bowser/Mario looks special, as it should.
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Reggie: Kicking ass and taking names since E3 2004.
Nominate Kapp'n (Animal Crossing) for SC2K5!

I have high hopes for Bowser/Mario's pic.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

2002's Mario vs Crono pic kicked so much ass.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Just for fun, I made a Sonic vs Ryu pic.

http://www.fansub-support.net/uploads4/Sonic%20vs%20Ryu.bmp
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Lonely Angel
Summer 2004 Contest Prediction: Match 34: Yoshi wins 52.17%-47.83%

This is my current snubs bracket

Dan wins.
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Jon Thomson - today: Luigi, tomorrow: Crono - 28/34
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=77859&tclass=

That Lyn pic rules. She should win that snubs contest, darn it! She's got my vote :D
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

FrostHarpy, I don't like the text, but the picture looks pretty cool. And perhaps they should both have the same background ^_^.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

This how how I'd see that snubs tournament end up:

Vincent Valentine over Samanosuke Akechi
Bass over Sparkster
Impa over Falco Lombardi in a minor upset
Mai Shiranui over Manny Calavera
Diablo over Ashton Anchors
Shadow over Bubsy
Nina Williams over Zed
Grey Wolf over Black Orchid

Peach over Blinx
Fawful over Taki
Seifer over Garrett
Riku over Metaknight
Richter Belmont over the Avatar
Ridley over Red Barlow
The Prince(badass pic) over Kyle Katam
Dr. Robotnik over Ladd

Sub-Zero over Henry Stauf
Lyn(another badass pic) over Arthur
Albert Wesker over Sarge
Dan Hibiki over Geno
Lloyd Irving over Pit(worst pic, looks like he let himself go over the years!)
Serge over Rayne
Billy Lee over Chez Ashley
Chun-Li over Commander Keen

Dr. Wiley over Frogger
Luc over Shodan
Toad over Gabriel Knight
Carmen Sandiego over King K.Rool
Capt. Falcon over Minsc
Sarah Kerrigan over Ecco the Dolphin
Ghaleon over Joanna Dark
Mewtwo over Mike Haggar

Next post I'll continue how I'd see such a contest end up :)

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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

I'm fairly certain Bass would approach a finals position. At the very least, final four.

I think you're way overrating Bass. I'm a Mega Man fan, and I barely know who he is. There are plenty of people in our hypothetical tournament that I'd vote for over Bass. Toad could probably beat him. I'm sure Tifa or Vincent would have no trouble with him. (Imagine if we booted all the characters who have been in the contest before and we still got an all FF VII final... that would be kind of funny.)

After looking at Doma's bracket I'm less enthusiastic about the idea - I've never even heard of half those people.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 32/34
Current Oracle ranking: 3nd | Pick: Yoshi with 53.35%

Vincent Valentine over Bass
Mai Shiranui over Impa
Shadow over Diablo
Nina Williams over Grey Wolf

Peach over Fawful
Seifer over Riku
Ridley over Richter Belmont
The Prince over Dr. Robotnik

Lyn over Sub-Zero
Dan Hibiki over Albert Wesker
Lloyd Irving over Serge(Serge wouldn't beat Raine in the first round :P and Raine would beat Lloyd like she beats him when he forgets to Study!)
Chul-Li over Billy Lee

Dr. Wiley over Luc
Toad over Carmen Sandiego
Sarah Kerrigan over Capt. Falcon
Mewtwo over Ghaleon

Division semifinals:

Vincent Valentine over Mai Shiranui
Shadow over Nina Williams

Seifer over Peach
Ridley over The Prince

Lyn over Dan Hibiki
Chun-Li over Lloyd Irving(Lloyd vs. Lyn would be a kick butt fight, but I'll take Lyn and Chun-Li :D)

Dr. Wiley over Toad
Mewtwo over Sarah Kerrigan

Division Finals:

Vincent Valentine over Shadow
Seifer over Ridley
Chun-Li over Lyn
Mewtwo over Dr. Wiley

Final Four:

Vincent Valentine over Seifer
Mewtwo over Chun-Li

Finals:

Vincent Valentine over Mewtwo

Yes, I'd think FFVII wins again :P
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SC2K4 Prediction: Cloud over Crono
SC2K5 Prediction: Crush from WWF Wrestlefest(Arcade) over Raine Sage!

Epona would be so cool in that kind of tournament. And she even has more personality than Link. If Link can get in, surely she can ^_~.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Should I go work on my picture or just leave it the same?
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Lonely Angel
Summer 2004 Contest Prediction: Match 34: Yoshi wins 52.17%-47.83%

I gave feedback... I think you should get a different text and maybe change the backgrounds so they are the same. Beyond that, I don't know. I thought it looked pretty cool though.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I was scrolling through creativename's picture archive and just noticed the "invasion" of the Samus Vs. Sephiroth picture in SC2002....

Did Heroic Mario do that? ><
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I was scrolling through creativename's picture archive and just noticed the "invasion" of the Samus Vs. Sephiroth picture in SC2002....

Who? the Megaroth

CJayC did that
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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

It's a little freaky looking...
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since Mega Man vs. Sephiroth was so close before the match was over CJayC didn't know who will win so he put both and took out Mega Man when he lost
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Summer 2004 Contest 29/34 Yoshi vs. Luigi

Regarding te new Zelda, if it launches between June 1st and July 31st, we have a winnar.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

since Mega Man vs. Sephiroth was so close before the match was over CJayC didn't know who will win so he put both and took out Mega Man when he lost

Imagine the misery for CJay should the second final four match be close down to the wire and he has to prepare a finals pic with the poll...
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros
SC2K4 Score: 33/36 Next Pick: Crono

Unless Samus turns out to be a force and equals Cloud/Sephiroth in strength, he shouldn't have to worry about it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Imagine the misery for CJay should the second final four match be close down to the wire and he has to prepare a finals pic with the poll...

Then he does the smart thing and delegates earlier. Who wouldn't want Ceej to come and say "I'd like pics for the last three rounds, please"?
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Will the White Wolf get his we... er, revenge this week? It's Luca Blight versus Riou Genkaku at www.rpgdl.com!

Hyrule Division: Round 1 - Match 35 – (6)Magus vs. (3)Crono

Moltar’s Analysis

Magus - His skin is BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Round 1 – vs. Luca (Magus: 81.04% - Luca: 18.96%)

Monster numbers by Magus in this match. He has so much potential in these Contests, but he is again stuck in a bad place.

Crono - What’s a Contest without a red-headed bastard step-child for Ceej to torture? A not good one.

Round 1 – vs. Crono (Crono: 77.99% - Conker: 22.01%)

Crono also puts up big numbers in his match against Conker. Poor squirrel…

What a match we have here. More SFF right here folks! Magus takes on Crono in what is bound to be an interesting match-up.

Wow…talk about unlucky. In 2002, Magus wasn’t even here, but after Crono won his division and was just inches away from going to the finals, Magus was instantly considered a snub. In 2003, Magus made his appearance….as a 13 seed! Big ouch! He turned many heads after he upset Sam Fisher in 2002, and then there was Ganondorf, who had just upset Tidus last round. After a great match, Magus squeaked by Ganon, and went on to face Ganon’s nemesis, Link. There was no way Link would beat Magus, but Magus did manage to put up 35% on Link. The only other characters to get 35% or over on Link are Sephiroth, Mario, Samus and Cloud. Those names sound familiar? They should, because they are all Contest elites. Thanks to Magus’s performance last year, he was instantly thrown up there, between Snake and Sonic. We already know Crono’s story pretty well, so let’s just cut to the end. ^_~

Crono should win this match, but I expect Magus to put up a fight. Hopefully he won’t get SFF’d too badly. Also, don’t be surprised if this match starts out pretty close. Magus is a board favorite, and has a great chance of taking the early lead. Crono should be able to win this fairly easily though. Magus just got thrown in one of the worst spots ever. For one, he’s underseeded, by about 2 or 3 seeds. Even if he was a 6-seed in another division, I’d have no problem putting him over Chief, Auron or Ryu, and he’d give Snake and Samus a run for their money. Better luck next year Maggie.

Oh, and just a little fun fact, which is more of an opinion, but meh. Crono/Magus has the hardest path to the Championship this year. First they take on each other then Mario, Link, Mega Man, then Cloud or Seph in the finals. Ouch…

Moltar’s Bracket Says:Crono will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Magus 43% - Crono 57%



Ulti's Analysis

Before commenting on this match, let it be known that despite any and all brackets, I am rooting for Magus to win this one the whole damned way. I refuse to honestly believe that among fans of Chrono Trigger that Crono could ever be more popular than Magus in the first place, and how Crono is vaulted to such stardom is beyond me.

That said, Crono should have a lockdown on this match, both in favoritism and recognition, but be forewarned that any and all people caught saying that Crono is a better character than Magus in my presence is suffering a terrible death right on the spot. If it were solely up to me, Magus would be in the finals of this contest. But on an unbiased level, Crono (unfortunately) is the huge favorite in this match. As nice as it would be for Magus to win, the name of the game is Chrono Trigger. Crono (sadly) wins by default.

Ulti's Bracket/Prediction - Crono/Crono with 52.99%
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MC vs. Crash - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

Cena’s Analysis

Yet another of Ceej's "fantasy matches" that makes us cringe. Magus could have done better than zippos at Guns N' Roses concerts, for God's sake. But of course, this tournament is only for the sick, twisted pleasure of the man who laughs at us all daily. Now, onto the analysis. I've playd through Chrono Trigger three or four times and I've failed to realize how the Super Saiyan and the purple haired, gigantic schnozed, black magic using weird-ass are bad ass. Sure, Crono has his character development eventually, but Magus? He's just another mage who has uber attacks. That makes him cool? ...k

Either way, it doesn't matter how cool they are, because one of them is going to win anyhow. And that winner is Crono, without a doubt. He's the main character, and hell, most people probably didn't even recruit Magus. Crono has this one in the bag, ladies and gentleman. Sorry, Magus fans, you don't prevail this year. Good luck trying, though.

Link and Ganon were so incredibly far apart that I'm compelled to use the SFF in the rest of these matches.

Cena’s Vote: Crono

Cena’s Prediction: Crono with 76% (Magus > Ganondorf stat wise, so maybe Magus can pull 20%)
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MC vs. Crash - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

Unless Samus turns out to be a force and equals Cloud/Sephiroth in strength, he shouldn't have to worry about it.

It would be a great surprise if that performance against Lara was more Samus rising than Lara dropping. ^_^
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Crono with 76%

I know a couple of people who'd commit suicide over a score like that. XD
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Square SFF has shown not to be nearly as extreme as Nintendo. I'd be surprised if Crono breaks 60% in this match, much less 70.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Heck, if Crono broke 70% on MAGUS, I'd seriously consider leaving the site entirely. I mean, that would be the sickest thing I'd have ever seen in the contests, and I saw the Male/Female Mario poll.
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Will the White Wolf get his we... er, revenge this week? It's Luca Blight versus Riou Genkaku at www.rpgdl.com!

I saw that male/female thingy too. Had CJayC been able to prove that more than 137 votes came from there, he would have switched the decision, I'm sure of it.

Magus losing tomorrow would downright disgust me, and frankly, that's how it's going to go down. It's GameFAQs for Pete's sake!
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

XD

I must be the ONLY person here who thinks Crono > Magus.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Yes.

Feel alone.

Veeeeeeery alone.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

I must be the only person here who doesn't care much for either character.

Then again, I've never played CT.
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MC vs. Crash - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Yoshi vs. Luigi - Bracket: Yoshi - Vote: Yoshi (32/34)

I actually don't care. Magus is very cool, but I thought Crono was cool as well. I'm just voting for Magus because he is the underdog.
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I like Crono more than Magus, but then again, I know my taste in video game characters is out of the ordinary. I don't mind the silent hero aspect at all, and Magus isn't all he's cracked up to be.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I like Crono more than Magus, but then again, I know my taste in video game characters is out of the ordinary. I don't mind the silent hero aspect at all, and Magus isn't all he's cracked up to be.

Do you liek Link too? =X
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Link's decent, but I don't hold anything against a character just because they don't talk. Actions speak louder than words, and you can tell a lot about personality just from the way they act.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

If I win the contest, I promise I will use the money to buy FFVIII. =X
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

If I win the contest, I promise I will use the money to buy FFVIII. =X
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Because FFVIII isn't horrible.
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I'm safe until the next toss-up match, which is Bowser vs. Guybrush. ~SuperLuigiBros
SC2K4 Score: 33/36 Next Pick: Crono

Crono is just better then Magus, both character and combat wise.

And I hope you win, Scdwdde, because FF8 is fantastic. Don't let these love-story hating n00bs convince you not to buy it.
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SC2K4 Winner: Link defeats Sephiroth
SC2K4 Score: 34/36 (Yoshi) Pick: Crono over Magus

It's one of the more controversial games ever made.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Crono is just better then Magus, both character and combat wise.

Never speak again. I'll give you combat-wise, because Magus' PC form is pretty mediocre. But character-wise? No chance in spoon that's true.
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Will the White Wolf get his we... er, revenge this week? It's Luca Blight versus Riou Genkaku at www.rpgdl.com!

Character wise Crono pwnz Magus.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Bass? Final Four material? If he got lucky he could.

I don't believe he'd need to get lucky in order to get that far. He should, by all means, be stronger than Protoman. Unlike Proto, Bass has actually been playable. He doesn't just pop in from time to time and then leave, but instead has had a recent GBA port from the SNES (Rockman & Forte). He's also got plenty of fans out there, so I would expect him to do well not only in that contest, but in this contest we have now.

I highly doubt he'd beat Vincent/Tifa/Cid/Peach/Rikku/Geno, and he probably wouldn't be able to beat Sub-Zero or Chun-Li either.

Rikku? Geno? I think he could beat both of those. I'd be a little uneasy on the three Final Fantasy 7 characters however.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Have Link/Cloud, Cloud/Seph, Mega Man/Tidus all been beaten to death to this extent? We're talking about a rejects tourney and a clear SFF match...
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

I think you're way overrating Bass. I'm a Mega Man fan, and I barely know who he is.

How do you barely know who he is? It's not like he's not been apart of the series.

There are plenty of people in our hypothetical tournament that I'd vote for over Bass.

There's not many people in this "snubs bracket" I'd vote over Bass myself.

Toad could probably beat him. I'm sure Tifa or Vincent would have no trouble with him. (Imagine if we booted all the characters who have been in the contest before and we still got an all FF VII final... that would be kind of funny.)

What? Toad? Seriously, there is no way I could see Bass being that weak. Heck, I would expect him to rank in the top 32 in a normal bracket.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I would not expect Bass to be much stronger than Protoman. I think a good majority of Mega Man's fanbase here is from the X series, as it's more recent and the better games from the original are on the NES which many haven't played. Zero's thrashing of Protoman seems to serve that point.

Of course, I know this is going to fall deaf on Heroic Mario's ears because I know what he thinks MMAC can do.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I would not expect Bass to be much stronger than Protoman.

I'm not one to estimate SFF or anything, but like I said in the other topic if he suffered even a smaller amount of SFF he could end up breaking the top 32 (Protoman). Then again, that's based purely over Zero vs. Protoman and not the incoming SFF of Mega Man vs. Zero. I don't think either one of them are fodder.

I think a good majority of Mega Man's fanbase here is from the X series,

I could see that. Basically all of Mega Man's classic series was on the NES and considering that's what? The third place where people of GameFAQs started gaming (N64/PS, SNES, NES). Thankfully, they've had a new chance to play the classic series.

as it's more recent and the better games from the original are on the NES which many haven't played. Zero's thrashing of Protoman seems to serve that point.

I do believe Zero vs. Protoman had a bit of SFF in it. Not anything massive, but enough to take Protoman from fodder to some who could win a round or so.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

We really haven't spent a whole lot of time on Link/Cloud or Cloud/Sephiroth. Mega Man vs. Tidus has only been beaten to death by what the percentage will be.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Vincent Valentine over Mewtwo

I honestly wouldn't expect Mewtwo to get as far as the finals. Even as a cooler Pokemon I couldn't see him progressing that far.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Finally, I'll end all these posts with a...

Crono > Magus. Yes, I like him more too.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

How do you barely know who he is? It's not like he's not been apart of the series.

The Mega Man games I've played are 1,2,3,4,5,6, X1, and X4. That's 8 different Mega Man games, and Bass wasn't in any of them. Even for people who bought the Anniversary Collection, if you play them in order, Bass doesn't show up until the 7th game. I barely started MM7 myself.

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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 32/34
Current Oracle ranking: 3nd | Pick: Yoshi with 53.35%

Bass beating Rikku? I'm not sure that would happen on *any* gaming web site*, especially one as RPG-oriented as this one.

But considering we've seen neither of the two in action, I'll end my complaint here.

I'm really getting worried about my pick of Magus over Crono. Other than that I have a pretty cookie-cutter bracket from here on out, and I'm kicking myself for choosing Magus.

The game's not called Magic Trigger.


*Capcom web site's excluded.
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"Heh heh...The wind. . .it is blowing."--Ganondorf Dragmire

Personally I think Crono > Magus, but its basically because I tend to like the main characters more for some reason. But I'd vote for Crono anyways for bracket purposes.
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Current SC2K4 Score: 33/34
COWS are for Milking, not GAMES

The Mega Man games I've played are 1,2,3,4,5,6, X1, and X4

Probably why. He's most prominent role is in Mega Man & Bass (SNES, GBA) and then he was in Mega Man 7.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Bass beating Rikku? I'm not sure that would happen on *any* gaming web site*, especially one as RPG-oriented as this one.

Only if she was a good deal stronger than Yuna. You'll notice that she (Yuna) isn't exactly a strong one herself.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yuna is probably stronger now than her 2003 ranking indicates, and I'm not sure where Rikku would fall. I still wouldn't expect Bass to be all that strong though. Neither would win by very much.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Probably. I could see her being stronger from FFX-2.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Now that I think about it...Do you think we might get anime Crono and Magus from the PSX re-release for their pics? CJayC seems to be mixing up the variety of pictures he normally uses.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Is there a good shot of Magus from the anime scenes on the PSX version?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

The only one I could recall is the intro where it zooms in on him with his scythe.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

You mean like the pictures that MMX has on the Prophet Challenge site?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Look at the pictures MMX has on the front page of his site. Those would be most likely, though there's an image of Magus a few moments after that with a sinister grin.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Ah, I remember that shot of Crono from the bridge scene. I would love it if CJayC used that one for him.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Have Link/Cloud, Cloud/Seph, Mega Man/Tidus all been beaten to death to this extent? We're talking about a rejects tourney and a clear SFF match...

The first two matches are consensual "your guess is as good as mine" matches, and MM/Tidus has been beaten to death, thanks to HM and Leonhart.

I beg to differ on the "clear SFF" part. Yoshi and Luigi are expected to be as close together as Crono and Magus, and there's the possibility of Crono having a case of "fanbase leeching", and even if it's minor, it could give Magus the win. I sincerely believe Magus has a shot.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

All I really want is for CJayC to use a different Crono from the one he almost always seems to use.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I think Magus will own ass in the first thirty minutes.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Like Zombie Crono from his first match against Mario? God I hated that one.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

Yep. Don't be surprised if, even in the event of a Crono victory, Magus gets the early lead.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

I'm expecting an early lead for Magus as well.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if magus jumps out to an early lead since he's a board favourite.
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"I demand a moderator"
"I demand pie!" - OooO

...and the game favorite, too, if the board's opinion is worth anything.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

I can't possibly imagine much whining tomorrow if Magus wins. I mean, what would it look like?

"[I don't know what game Magus comes from, but] Chrono Trigger is the best game ever made and Crono deserves to win for that!"

I wouldn't put it past GameFAQs members, you know.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

You'll hear the whining of the sort of "Crono doesn't even talk! How can he beat Magus?!"
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

*expects dozens upon dozens of topics involving what Slowflake just described, if Magus wins*
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

GO YOSHI!
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Note the "if Magus wins", Leonhart.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

I hope to hell Magus wins tomorrow, but I think we all know that Crono will take it. And believe you me, it ****ing sucks.

*has Crono in bracket, doesn't care*
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

If Magus wins that pretty much sets Mario up in the Elite 8 and that makes me happy...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Think of the bracket destruction if Magus beats Crono. Magus over Crono could be a bigger upset than Starcraft's reaching Round 3.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Oh, really? After I take my shower, I'll explain why I think Magus has a great shot at Mario should he win this.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Whoops, missed that.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

And my shower comes after this topic hit 500, for the curious.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I'll explain why I think Magus has a great shot at Mario should he win this.

Bring it.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Magus having a great shot at Mario...? Um, no.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 032/034 - Matches: 31/33 - Rank: 00194/33221 - Today: Yoshi - Tomorrow: Crono
VOTE MAGUS TOMORROW!

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SC2k4 Current Score: 33/36 Magus vs Crono
The undisputed master of the mountains of Shiv

Annoying bird! I am the great Leon!
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

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SC2k4 Current Score: 33/36 Magus vs Crono
The undispuuuted master of the mountains of Shiv

Yes.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

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