Thanks to some late-night posters and a close match, the last stats topic will likely be filled within 24 hours.

Go us?

Stats websites:

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

Stats topics:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats7.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats8.htm

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http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

!yawA tsoP
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Post.

Go Ryu.
Hold on, plllllllllllllleaaaaaaase.

BTW, Luigi over Yoshi.
BOOK IT!
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It'll be Yoshi over Luigi.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Luigi will win, if he doesn't I'll get drunk and beat up some midgets.
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Summer 2004 Contest Score - 26/28
Today's Pick - Sora

Go Ryu!
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Vote in my Pseudo SpC2K5 bracket: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16013227
Feat: FF7, SMS, Xenogears, FFT, Prime, Kirby, EB

I have Luigi over Yoshi. So Yoshi will win >_<
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/

i think yoshi>luigi
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=402

I think Luigi will take it.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Yoshi will take it, Heroic Mario? Just like Joe did?

Luigi shall prevail!
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Mario: 64990---Cloud: 64713
SC2K4 Score: 28/28 Next Tough Pick: Ryu. H over Jill V.

Yoshi will win. Why must you people say otherwise?
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

Yoshi will take it, just like Tails did. And that is what I thought.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

The reasoning for Yoshi over Luigi makes a lot more sense than Joe over Tails. Of all the Nintendo fans, more like Yoshi. I'd be shocked if Luigi won, to be honest.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

I'm putting aside the entire past poll results for the Luigi/Yoshi match.

It's SFF and that can go ANYWAY.
Luigi is a frickin' MARIO BROTHER.
If you gave me this decision 100000 times, I'd take Luigi over some cute lil' packmule EVERY TIME.
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HOT and SEXY Prophet Challenge action!
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MMX,

Based on my pre-poll (topic=15985815), the results are a pretty even split. Yoshi is leading, 28-26; however, there were times when Luigi led.

It will be no blowout, so no need to worry, yet.

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Heroic Mario? Just like Joe did?

I can't make a mistake?
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Can't I question your judgement?
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Mario: 64990---Cloud: 64713
SC2K4 Score: 28/28 Next Tough Pick: Ryu. H over Jill V.

Yes, but without finding the one time I was wrong. I don't see you questioning the other 27 times I was right.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Luigi will win, if he doesn't I'll get drunk and beat up some midgets.

PICS. WHEN IT HAPPENS.

If you gave me this decision 100000 times, I'd take Luigi over some cute lil' packmule EVERY TIME.

LAUGH'D.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

well goku still has a perfect.. so.. i'm going with his judgement on this one :)
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.

I'm not going with the judgements of anyone who has a perfect at this point. A fair number of these matches have been huge perfect-killers and it was pretty much luck on picking correctly, unlike what some might say who think that Frog easily had Liquid Snake all along (just like I thought before that really tight finish)...

I definitely expected Ryu H. to pull at least 53/47 on Jill, but it's clear that this is a tighter fight than ever, and I'm willing to bet practically nobody has Jill/Ryu over Sora in the second round.

I think Yoshi will take Luigi. Know why? Because I picked Luigi to win, then mysteriously found Yoshi in my bracket list. Clearly it's because my subconscious was trying to fix a mistake on my part.

Of course, you all have to be stumped and amazed by the Gordon Freeman win first. :P
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

This should feel up again.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Hey, here it is.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

While we're on the subject of the busting of perfect brackets, does anyone know a bunch about how the perfects were weeded out in the Summer 2002 contest?

All I know is that Strider vs. Raziel killed 5 of the last 7 perfects...

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

and here's a new topic
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Score, 501st post on the last topic.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Is there any reason to believe tomorrow's poll will go any differently from the results today?

Not really. If prior polls have been an indication, once we restart the person who was winning when the poll closed was the one who won after it was restarted. I still think Hayabusa should win by a greater margin than before.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yes MMX, it is SFF, but it is my knowledge that a majority of Mario fans prefer Yoshi. I don't see any reason for people in the same fanbase to pick Luigi over Yoshi.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

Same. Jill will probably start of with the early lead, Ryu catches up and controls the day vote, and expands his lead into the night.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

Not sure when this happened (nobody mailed me about it until mid-afternoon)

That coulda been me...I e-mailed him when I got home from school...
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

It will be interesting at least to see how more votes effect the two, as it will really show how the casual voters are voting. We'll see if Ryu got a lot of votes from brackets and hardcore fans or if the common fan can recognize him.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

Congrats Leonhart on 501. Those pwn.

I'd imagine it'd be easier for many people to intake his increase to the point of being able to take on Link if he only had to go around 8% (42% to 50%).

Probably, but remember a lot of people believe the hype from the new Zelda game will help Link more then we do.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

The only thing that should really change is the number of votes. It looks like Hayabusa will avoid the curse of the 3 seed this year, barring something bizarre tomorrow.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Probably, but remember a lot of people believe the hype from the new Zelda game will help Link more then we do.

Well, people in here for example or people on the board. Just those that believe it is physcially impossible for Mega Man to increase from his 2003 numbers to Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth's level. Either way, it'll happen regardless of how much is necessary. We'll see this first hand at Mega Man vs. Tidus. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

We'll see firsthand that Tidus has indeed benefitted from Final Fantasy X-2, and moreso than Mega Man benefitted from MMAC.

...Hey, if Heroic Mario can make outrageously bold predictions, why can't I? Mine's not even that outlandish.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Either way, it'll happen regardless of how much is necessary.

Confident as usual I see.

We'll see this first hand at Mega Man vs. Tidus. ;)

We will see something. Whether it shall be what you expect or what I expect, the future can only tell.

Oh, and the re-start sucks very badly.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Actually, I think yours is more outlandish than mine. >>
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Saying that Tidus benefitted to even a small extent is a lot more reasonable than saying Mega Man got a KH-like boost from one game because it doesn't expand his fanbase like the former did. Say what you want, but the majority of people who bought MMAC were already fans of the series, even if only the X series.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

You said Tidus benefited from FFX-2 more than Mega Man benefited from MMAC. Didn't say how big or small.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yes, which gives me a lot more wiggle room. I could say that Mega Man will barely benefit at all, so Tidus wouldn't need much of an increase to do better.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I still find it very out there that Tidus could increase more than Mega Man. The comparison between the two would obviously have one siding with the Blue Bomber.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Other than the fact that the sales of FFX-2 and MMAC don't even really compare, and it's hard for an established character to increase or decrease to a large extent without a game that makes everyone change the way they perceive the series.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Incidentally, we filled up a stats topic in under 24 hours. That's pretty damn impressive.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

I hate CJC SO MUCH right now... I've never been more tempted to do you-know-what before. It was almost over...
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The race to revitalize Figaro Desert is on! Find out how at www.rpgdl.com

I had the greatest sig in mind, but felt it might be considered a flame, so decided to just go with this one. If I ever wanna, ya know, I know what sig I am going to have when I post lots of fun, fun stuff.
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I'm a Czar! Whee!

And I decided that sig flaming the most powerful person in this operation is probably almost as dumb as re-doing the entire Ryu/Jill match, throwing out 51,000+ tangible, unbiased votes... oops, did I say that outloud?
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I'm a Czar! Whee!

It's not like we should be surprised. He's been lying to us ever since the great change, so why should he start being reasonable now?
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The race to revitalize Figaro Desert is on! Find out how at www.rpgdl.com

tag
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Happiness is like peeing on yourself. Everyone can see it, but only you feel it's warmth.

If all we're losing is some of the so-called casual vote, which generally goes to the more well-known character (in this case, Jill), then Ryu should still be safe tomorrow.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

expect major whinning from many people if Jill ends up winning
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

It shouldn't change the outcome of the match, but who knows, ryu could have a bigger earleer lead though, if the people who voted for Jill thinking ryu would win now vote for him seeing how close the match was.
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Go vote in today's survivor please!!!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=15716433

You realize that with this delay, that technically Gordon Freeman has lasted longer in this contest than Solid Snake, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Samus Aran ever did previously?
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The race to revitalize Figaro Desert is on! Find out how at www.rpgdl.com

OWNED
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

I'm willing to bet practically nobody has Jill/Ryu over Sora in the second round.

And I'm willing to bet most people believe Sora has no chance at either. I know I still do.
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"All in all, sometimes it's a wonder that pesants[sic] actually live long enough to learn how to farm....."-mysterygilgamesh4
{34}

Nothing much to say about this match except it's like da ja vu or something
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Here we go again!

Jill, by 2999.

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>Critical Mass has not been reached.
>More SephirothxCloud fics please.

and the poll is up
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

And so it begins once more.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Let's hope we can finish it today...
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I helped summon Captain Planet to Board 8
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/DarkMageMagus/other/CaptainPlanet.jpg

This is going exactly like the last vote did.

It seems Jill will tear into Ryu's lead soon...

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>Critical Mass has not been reached.
>More SephirothxCloud fics please.

Ryu starts off with a 45 vote lead
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

If this starts going like yesterday I'm just going to bed...
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

it took Jill 11 min before she took the lead
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

All of the hardcore message board peeps still mad about cjay's decision are on right now. I'm not worried in the least.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

its a shame the update.php isn't working, it's mixing up the results because its the same poll number on gameFAQs I think.
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Score: 28/29
Upcoming picks: Ryu, Sam, Samus, Link

This is where Jill took the lead yet she's down by 60, maybe the board members didn't give Jill enough credit, but this time there voting for there bracket
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Ryu Hayabusa 52.9% 529
Jill Valentine 47.1% 471
TOTAL VOTES 1000

boo
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Ryu Hayabusa 49.97% 917
Jill Valentine 50.03% 918
TOTAL VOTES 1835

That made my day
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Okay back to a recap of last night. Good night all!
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

^_^

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>Critical Mass has not been reached.
>More SephirothxCloud fics please.

It's taken half an hour to catch up, compared to 10 minutes yesterday. I think Ryu's will win this should things continue as they were.

Anyways, an analysis of Sora/Aeris: I believe that there was SFF involved in the match, but not in the way most people might think. I think that, if anyone, Aeris was SFF'd by Sora.

Crazy? Think about this: The KHF is prevelant, mainly due to appearances in the game. It broadens a person's eyes and brings about a new generation of people who would be exposed to certain characters. Aeris' exposure to the KHF would also broaden her sphere of influence. The thing is: against Sora, the KHF would be nul, as Sora would pick up that vote anyways. Thus, SFF against Aeris, although it does not mean much to her already substantial fanbase. It does, however, change Sora's position in the extrapolateds, making him more powerful then he would seem to be. At the very worst, there would be no SFF as the potential groups would cancel each other out.

2000 votes in 30 minutes = most votes yet pace. I don't know how this poll will turn out, but surely it won't just mock yesterdays with more votes? eh?
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

it's at 30-40 and I'm going to bed. Even though she may not win at least she had the lead
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Having played Kingdom Hearts, and not FF7, I would still vote for Aeris. Sora really isn't all that great, and his strength seems to be far, far away from that of his game. He's pretty annoying as things go, I would have liked Riku or Ansem in this year, but, it didnt' happen
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Go vote in today's survivor please!!!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=15716433

RE: Update Script

OK, because of this do-over match, I've had to spend the last three and a half hours completely overhauling my update script.

We lost about an hours worth of updates because I had to take the script off-line while I messed with it, but I doubt anyone will care.

The "Time" column now displays the full time and date combined. Note that the date is the date of the update, not of the match. Often, the very last update for a match won't be gotten until days later, because it doesn't record until someone manually visits the update page using ?pollid=____.

Note that there is a new default sort order: the updates will now be sorted in descending chronological order--that is, the latest update will now be on top.

If people prefer the old way (the oldest update on top), please let me know and I can very easily change it.
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Data for all matches - http://sc2k4.com/displaytable.php
SC2K4.com/Frog

Ryu Hayabusa 46.21% 3063
Jill Valentine 53.79% 3566

Lead breaks 500. Now will it still be there when I get back from work?
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Jon Thomson - today: Ryu Hayabusa, tomorrow: Sam Fisher - 23/29
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Man great work, I appreciate all the work you've done for the updater, I check it maaany times a day. I like it with the current results on top. Thanks so much.
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Score: 28/29
Upcoming picks: Ryu, Sam, Samus, Link

*tag*
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Sora vs. HK-47 didn't make a single one of the lists, but i figure i should copy these lists over:

Top 10 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)

1) 88.60% - Solid Snake over Tanner
2) 75.66% - Link over CATS
3) 72.74% - Sephiroth over Sly Cooper
4) 67.08% - Mario over J.C. Denton
5) 65.98% - Bowser over Guybrush Threepwood
6) 65.96% - Megaman over Eartworm Jim
7) 62.08% - Magus over Luca Blight
8) 61.68% - Sonic the Hedgehog over Terry Bogard
9) 60.56% - Dante over Ratchet
10) 60.38% - Cloud over Duke Milk'em

Top 10 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 69759 - Solid Snake over Tanner
2) 65362 - Sephiroth over Sly Cooper
3) 62319 - Link over CATS
4) 55813 - Megaman over Earthworm Jim
5) 53705 - Cloud over Duke Milk'em
6) 52337 - Mario over J.C. Denton
7) 49299 - Sonic the Hedgehog over Terry Bogard
8) 49079 - Bowser over Guybrush Threepwood
9) 44835 - Dante over Ratchet
10) 44770 - Crono over Conker

Top 10 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)

1) 0.10% - Frog over Liquid Snake
2) 1.62% - Tidus over Shadow the Hedgehog
3) 9.60% - Tails over Viewtiful Joe
4) 10.16% - Ness over Jak
5) 12.94% - Vivi over Donkey Kong
6) 14.32% - Ganondorf over Alucard
7) 14.92% - Knuckles over Kefka
8) 20.46% - Vyse over Laharl
9) 23.92% - Tommy Vercetti over Max Payne
10) 24.26% - Ryu over KOS-MOS

Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 93 - Frog over Liquid Snake
2) 1546 - Tidus over Shadow the Hedgehog
3) 7397 - Ness over Jak
4) 7673 - Tails over Viewtiful Joe
5) 11105 - Vivi over Donkey Kong
6) 12358 - Knuckles over Kefka
7) 12533 - Ganondorf over Alucard
8) 14072 - Vyse over Laharl
9) 18618 - Tommy Vercetti over Max Payne
10) 20471 - Ryu over KOS-MOS

Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 95122 - Tidus vs. Shadow the Hedgehog
2) 90064 - Auron vs. Scorpion
3) 89848 - Sephiroth vs. Sly Cooper
4) 88953 - Cloud vs. Duke Milk'em
5) 87733 - Frog vs. Liquid Snake
6) 87557 - Ganondorf vs. Alucard
7) 85781 - Vivi vs. Donkey Kong
8) 84625 - Megaman vs. Earthworm Jim
9) 84379 - KOS-MOS vs. Ryu
10) 82798 - Kefka vs. Knuckles

Top 10 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 68808 - Vyse vs. Laharl
2) 70495 - Magus vs. Luca Blight
3) 72863 - Ness vs. Jak
4) 74039 - Dante vs. Ratchet
5) 74383 - Bowser vs. Guybrush Threepwood
6) 75307 - Luigi vs. Pac-Man
7) 77021 - Master Cheif vs. Crash Bandicoot
8) 77860 - Tommy Vercetti vs. Max Payne
9) 78031 - Mario vs. J.C. Denton
10) 78608 - Yoshi vs. Ryo Hazuki

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

Top 10 Highest Individual Votes

1) 77605 - Sephiroth
2) 74251 - Solid Snake
3) 72344 - Link
4) 71329 - Cloud
5) 70219 - Megaman
6) 65184 - Mario
7) 64615 - Sonic the Hedgehog
8) 62375 - Crono
9) 61731 - Bowser
10) 60057 - Yoshi

Top 10 Lowest Individual Votes

1) 4492 - Tanner
2) 10025 - CATS
3) 12243 - Sly Cooper
4) 12652 - Guybrush Threepwood
5) 12847 - J.C. Denton
6) 13367 - Luca Blight
7) 14406 - Earthworm Jim
8) 14602 - Ratchet
9) 15316 - Terry Bogard
10) 17605 - Conker

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)

1) 46788 - Shadow the Hedgehog
2) 43820 - Liquid Snake
3) 37512 - Alucard
4) 37338 - Donkey Kong
5) 36102 - Viewtiful Joe
6) 35220 - Lettuce Kefka
7) 32733 - Jak
8) 31954 - KOS-MOS
9) 31660 - Scorpion
10) 29621 - Max Payne

Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)

1) 40130 - Ness
2) 41440 - Vyse
3) 43775 - Tails
4) 43913 - Frog
5) 47578 - Knuckles
6) 48239 - Tommy Vercetti
7) 48334 - Tidus
8) 48443 - Vivi
9) 50045 - Ganondorf
10) 51008 - Luigi

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)

1) 98.79% - Link over CATS
2) 98.28% - Mario over J.C. Denton
3) 97.97% - Cloud over Duke Milk'em
4) 97.47% - Megaman over Earthworm Jim
4) 97.47% - Sonic the Hedgehog over Terry Bogard
6) 97.37% - Sephiroth over Sly Cooper
7) 97.27% - Solid Snake over Tanner
8) 95.00% - Bowser over Guybrush Threepwood
9) 93.43% - Crono over Conker
10) 90.45% - Magus over Luca Blight

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)

1) 35.13% - Vivi over Donkey Kong
2) 43.05% - Knuckles over Kefka
3) 44.33% - Frog over Liquid Snake
4) 46.30% - Tails over Viewtiful Joe
5) 54.16% - Ness over Jak
6) 63.02% - Ganondorf over Alucard
7) 66.71% - Vyse over Laharl
8) 68.69% - Luigi over Pac-Man
9) 70.06% - Tidus over Shadow the Hedgehog
10) 70.09% - Ryu over KOS-MOS

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

well, i haven't been able to add my input much lately, cause i've been ridiculously busy off-line. but from what i can tell, this poll glitch may have given false hope to Hayabusa fans and brackets. although, i would fully expect an X-box character to do better during America's daytime, which i'm told he did yesterday.

actually, does anyone remember what was Jill's biggest lead, what time was it when Hayabusa started his comeback yesterday? and what was his lead when the poll was stopped yesterday? it will be interesting to see if today closely follows the same voting trends as yesterday.

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That's it. I have reached my threshold of pain. I am going home and I am going to play Megaman, eat snack cakes, and do my woman.

Wow Jill has a 600 vote lead, Ryu isn't coming back...

>_>

<_<

I'm off to school, I expect Ryu will be in the lead again when I get home.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

well this is how it was yesterday when i left for school, and then in my 3rd block computer class ryu went up by 17. Well, I'll be back in 3rd (which is about noon) to make fun of everybody who picked jill.
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*I have currently beat 102 videogames*-27/29-Ryu

He re-does the poll... and Jill wins. Fine by me. If Hayabusa was to win just because of a glitch, I wouldn't have wanted these three points anyway.

What's that I hear about a CATS picture anyway?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Well, Jill's lead today is bigger than it was yesterday, but it's still about the same percentages. Hayabusa will still pull this one out. However, I still expect the vote totals to be low. There may be some people who didn't realize that the poll restarted and won't vote again.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

What's that I hear about a CATS picture anyway?

CJayC made it look like CATS had invaded the contest by plastering his image over the match picture. I hope somebody saved that so creative can put it on his site.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Who do Chichiri and Leonhart have today?
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My life retain'eth its meaning!
Next up on the menu: Master Chief.

Haha, good ol' CATS. Corporate Ceej my ass. ;)
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Does anyone know what the vote totals yesterday were at this time? I think they are on the sc2k4 updater still. Let me go check....
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

We both have Hayabusa winning.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I just checked the updater, actually. We're 1500 votes ahead of yesterday's pace at this time.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Yeah, I just checked it too.... I'm iffy on whether the increase in vote totals will be worth the change. If the results are the same with no dramatic increase in vote totals, then this was a complete waste of time.
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"There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Damn it, why'd I miss this CATS stuff ;_;
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/

I just found the link in an other topic:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b30oops.jpg

XDXDXD
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/

But was there a message along with the pic, saying the match would be restarted or something along those lines?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Yeah, something about the poll being restarted today due to technical difficulties. Hence, CATS.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

XD at CATS
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My life retain'eth its meaning!
Next up on the menu: Master Chief.

I expect this match to play out exactly how it did yesterday. Jill takes it during the night, Jill takes it in the early morning, Hayabusa comes back during the day, and then builds upon his lead into the night. *yawn*

In fact, she peaked around 712 and is now sitting at 690. I'm confident in Ryu pulling this out.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yep... at what time did Ryu begin his comeback yesterday, anyway?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

It was right about now - the comeback was certainly underway between 9-10 est yesterday.
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Very Low Impact 30 min; A narcoleptic aerobics instructor struggles to hide her condition from students and employers.

My fellow Ryu supporters, we are screwed.
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My life retain'eth its meaning!
Next up on the menu: Master Chief.

Ryu had best get the job done..the fact this is being rerun to cater to crybaby Jill fanboys annoys me to no end...

We should be watching Sam hand Gordy his ass today...but noooooo....Jill sucks so bad she has to get the beat down twice...once was not good enough for the cheap slut!

For shame, fanboys!
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Steve Illumina: Official Satirical Commentator of SC2K4
Perfects to Fall: 35 SC2K4: 26/29 (Go Ryu!)

LMAO. CATS really did set Ryu up the bomb.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

Well Jill has a 300 more votes at her higest peak right now. At this time she has over 500 votes more. If Ryu is going to catch up it's going to be close, plus we don't know how the late votes will go to.
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Okay, so CATS has been cheated by Ryu before, we know this...but he's getting his revenge on the wrong Ryu!

All his mistake are belong to CATS.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

lol
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Ryu will definitely cut into the lead; that is not a question. The question is whether or not he can catch up. He made up almost 1300 votes yesterday in this 12 hour period, so I have no reason to doubt that a similar gain can be expected. The question is how will the last 4-5 hours of the poll go? Damned if I know, but we should still be in for a great match.
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I'm a Czar! Whee!

yes, but at this time Ryu already gain like 200 votes
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

*is pissed* Someone obviously wanted Jill to win today.... >_<
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Stop TJF from happening, vote for Ryu H today!
Married SemiFinal vs Belarus on 6/1/04

What's the link to CJayC's topic from last night?
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God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. - cyko
Summer Contest 2004: 20/21

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16021786
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The reason why you couldn't see my Signature before is because it was Invisible

If Ryu H. was going to win at least let it be legit. If the only way he can win is by a glitch then so be it.

Also I think yesterdays and todays match proves that the bracket voters favor Ryu H. more then Jill since it's bracket voters who actually come to this site to vote

ps Lead is at 840
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

haha, there was a cry from both jill and ryu fans throughout the entire day to rerun this poll. Even Ulti had a topic about it. sure a majority of ryu fans will be upset about it, but seriously, cjay was just trying to have a legit poll run, just to make sure the outcome was fair. any whining you do now is just because you're upset that ryu is losing. sure it sucks that things are a day later now, but you have to admit that there would've been justified complaints for the next week if nothing was done. at least now cjay has done something about it. i think he did the right thing, even if ryu comes back and wins. this was the way it should've gone. plus, the poll is still close. only 8.5 hours into it anyways.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

Ryu's making a slow and steady comeback percentage-wise...

...haven't checked out the vote difference yet, though.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

I hope he still comes back.
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Points in the S2k4C: 27/29
Next pick: Ryu Hayabusa

The lead has been slightly more than 800 votes now for more than an hour.
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Very Low Impact 30 min; A narcoleptic aerobics instructor struggles to hide her condition from students and employers.

It's the votes that matter, not the percentage...but hey, the closer it is percentage-wise, the better I'll feel 'bout my pick regardless of winning or losing.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

percent mean nothing. Jill has been leading with about 840 for a while
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

If there have been 21K votes in the first 8.5 hours of this match and there are 24 hours in a match. How many total votes will there be in the match assuming that votes come in at a constant rate?

hmmmm..... 24/8.5 ....... x 21K ......

same as yesterday? wuh?

discussion?
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

Jill's lead has been steady between 800 and 850 for the last two and a half hours. Hayabusa should begin gaining ground soon and take the lead eventually.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

From the updater at SC2k4.com:

Then
06:08:45 5910 6725 46.77% 53.23% 815
06:08:22 5902 6713 46.79% 53.21% 811
06:07:19 5876 6679 46.80% 53.20% 803

Now
08:41:36 10330 11167 48.05% 51.95% 837
08:41:26 10324 11165 48.04% 51.96% 841
08:41:26 10325 11165 48.05% 51.95% 840

The lead has been fairly constant, just like the 500 vote lead held for a while yesterday.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

Jill went up again. The lead is now around 870 to 880. =(
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

If Jill breaks 1000, I'll start to get worried. Until then, I'm confident in Hayabusa's ability to do the same thing he did yesterday.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

At the same time yesterday, there's already 3000 more votes today. I don't know the exact numbers to say how much that it would be to extrapolate how much the end of the day will be, but it has to be at least over 10,000, I would assume. And that's including the people who didn't vote today, because they assumed they voted already. I have Jill and Hayabusa can still win, and I'm fine if he does, and I think he will get a huge day vote to win. But to say this poll shouldn't be redone when there is already tons of evidence now to show that yesterday was a mess and needed to be redone.

At this time the lead was at 150, now it's at 900. Not looking good for Hayabusa
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Well, Jill wins. It's over, folks.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

nooooooooooo don't say that slow

I think you were the reason that Ryu gain yesterday
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

This is why we shouldnt have done a repoll. >_<
I'm so mad right now.....
People could easily change there votes. Bad Idea CJ.
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Stop TJF from happening, vote for Ryu H today!
Married SemiFinal vs Belarus on 6/1/04

why if the only way Ryu could win is by a glitch then he shouldn't even be winning
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Ryu could have won without the glitch; we don't know for sure.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/31/2004 10:07:24 AM | Message Detail
Well, Jill wins. It's over, folks.

Keep sayin' it, in hopes that the curse strikes again.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

As probably one of the biggest Jill supporters here, I think this repoll isn't the best way to handle it. Keeping the poll up for two days would have been a better idea.

Or if he'd put "REMATCH" or "REPOLL" in big bold letters above the match so people would know to vote again. The match yesterday wasn't fair, but this one is just as unfair. I'd rather be wrong on my Jill over Ryu pick in a fair poll than be right in an unfair one.
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I GOTTA HAVE MORE COWBELL; Contest: 27/29
“TheRye is like Jesus, if Jesus ever played video games.” -Inviso

Hayabusa = robbed.
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Metroid Prime > Wind Waker

Yeah; it's not that it's morally unfair; it's that other people may deserve that money more than you.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

I think your right since it was almost the end of the poll when CJayC took it down. It may only help the poll with like 5k votes or something
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

i don't think ryu's coming back this time :(
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

I voted for Jill, but I think it would be much more fair if Cjay fixed the glitch and continued the poll for another day. That way no one could switch their vote. and if someone came yesterday, but didn't come today, their vote would still count.

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SC2K4: 27/29 Tomorrow's Pick: Ryu H.

*glares at slow*

it's now below 900
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

The gap has been cut down quite a bit right now.
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Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots!
http://www.geocities.com/lettucekefka/

840
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Well Ryu's gained about 40 votes in the last few minutes. COMEBACK!
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Summer Contest Match 30 Ryu Hayabusa vs. Jill Valentine
Status 26/29 Points: 026 Next: Sam Fisher vs. Gordon Freeman

XD

Don't get too optimistic just yet.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Below 800.
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SC2k4: 27/29 (R1: Shadow, Viewtiful Joe).

Okay, Hayabusa was winning at this point yesterday, and his comeback has stalled at an 800 vote deficit. Now I'm worried.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

Same here. I just don't think Hayabusa got what it takes.

Jill is going to win.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Jill's comeback stalled last night too. I have the feeling it will be the same deal.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Dude, it's over. Hayabusa's losing percentage now.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

I simply think that the lead regain will be stalled until about 2 or 3.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

"Dude, it's over. Hayabusa's losing percentage now."

Percentage doesn't really mean much though.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

It does when the LEADER is gaining it. That means Jill is overcoming overall raising of vote totals to extend a percentage lead. The loser only has to split the vote or slightly lose the vote to keep the percentage coming closer, the winner has to get more votes than the percentage out of 100.

And really, he's not losing much in the way of percentage. The lead has been hovering in the 800s for the last 4.5 hours; and Hayabusa's been gaining percentage but not votes throughout that period.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

Obviously NewLib, but the fact of the matter is that it's not a significant matter if Jill gains .02%, all that it means is that Ryu H stalled for a very short time. And, if you look Ryu has retaken those very minor loses. Watching the % right now does no good whatesoever.

If the loser is losing percentage, that means the gap is even wider than before.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Well... I don't think Ryu can comeback anymore.. =(

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"I just wanna protect the people I'm with. Doesn't matter whether I can or not. It's what I believe in."
-Zidane (Final Fantasy IX)

*Throws in towel*

Now, if I guess correctly on Luigi, Crono, and Cloud, but lose the contest on this, I'll be pissed.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

"If the loser is losing percentage, that means the gap is even wider than before."

Again, it was only by a very small margin. All that it meant was that Ryu had a temporary stall, not that he was dying out.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

I'm still going to wait until people start getting out of school before calling this one way or the other.

But, assuming just for an instant that Jill does end up winning this with the 51% she has going now... How could that possibly make sense? Wouldn't it mean that something like 55% of the "too dumb to press the F5 button even though there's a message telling me to" voters, who haven't had their opinions registered until today, are Jill supporters? That doesn't seem possible.

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the-elite.net
The Guru Scoreboard: http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/04SumGurus.xls
Contest Archives: geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs

Despite how ludicrous Ulti's theory sounded yesterday, it proved true. When the kids on the east coast get out of school and get home (between 2:30 and 3) then Ryu may get a spike.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Well.. Between whoever wins this match.. Do you think Sora has a chance to get past Jill/Ryu?, what percentage would he get?

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"I just wanna protect the people I'm with. Doesn't matter whether I can or not. It's what I believe in."
-Zidane (Final Fantasy IX)

I will, too, be pissed, if I lose over this. Upon reflecting the matter further, in such a close match, not only was Hayabusa's "win" yesterday lacking credibility to begin with, but so does Jill's today. The only way most people would be happy is if Hayabusa won today anyway, which seems out of the question.

All of this over the single hardest match in the first round, and the most valuable in terms of points too. Don't you just like coincidences?
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Some people who may not care about the contest but visit Gamefaqs daily might be voting Jill today who previously voted Ryu just because he was winning yesterday. I know this won't account for a large amount of votes, but I can almost guarentee a couple of hundred of people changed their votes jus to vote for the "loser".
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Happiness is like peeing on yourself. Everyone can see it, but only you feel it's warmth.

Probably the best idea was to let the votes counted yesterday and let it ran for an extra day..

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"I just wanna protect the people I'm with. Doesn't matter whether I can or not. It's what I believe in."
-Zidane (Final Fantasy IX)

Guys, just have faith. Except you slow.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

All of this over the single hardest match in the first round, and the most valuable in terms of points too. Don't you just like coincidences?

Yeah, that would be funny if it happened on Gordon/Sam instead and Gordon won and CJayC was liek "WTF!!!" and restarted it. ;x
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

As we speak, Ryu has brought Jill's lead well below 800...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

About Sora: In a nutshell, without mentioning all the mathematical stuff, if HK-47 is on the level of Fox, Crash or Max Payne he can do it. Otherwise, nope.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Hey, yeah, it's near 700 now! Spike or beginning of a trend? This could be interesting.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Guys, just have faith. Except you slow.

XD

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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

The closeness of this match gives a bit more hope to my pick of Sora reaching the last 16. Unless, of course, HK-47 is fodder of rather large proportions.
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Jon Thomson - today: Ryu Hayabusa, tomorrow: Sam Fisher - 23/29
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Ask yourself that question, can HK beat Fox? I think not.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Lead below 700 now...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

I think it would be close.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Yep... going down like that, who does she think she is, Paris Hilton?

Shame I gotta go now. Oh well, I'll be back later, hopefully.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Damnit, Slow...

...the second you made that comment, Ryu lost a bit of ground.

...maybe you really are cursed.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Wait, Ryu just pushed forward in the last 30 seconds...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

it would have been interesting to see how the late night voters would have voted last night, because if you take away the early storm of bracket voters, and then a few minutes, Jill had it right? so maybe she would have started coming back as the night went on.
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Go vote in today's survivor please!!!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=15716433

Woah, big push by Ryu there. Pleeeeease let this be the surge that'll get him into the lead...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Under 700!

COMEBACK!
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Summer Contest Match 30 Ryu Hayabusa vs. Jill Valentine
Status 26/29 Points: 026 Next: Sam Fisher vs. Gordon Freeman

Lead cut to 1%. Catch up Ryu!
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Happiness is like peeing on yourself. Everyone can see it, but only you feel it's warmth.

Sora, Jill, or Ryu...

...none of these deserve to make it to the Sweet Sixteen.
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Current Score: 26/29
Today's Pick: Ryu Hayabusa

Ryu up to 49%, Jill's lead well under 700. C'mon...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

UNDER 600!

COMEBACK!
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Summer Contest Match 30 Ryu Hayabusa vs. Jill Valentine
Status 26/29 Points: 026 Next: Sam Fisher vs. Gordon Freeman

Hmm...seems kids coming home from school prefer Ryu.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?

UNDER 500

COMEBACK!

AGAIN!
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Summer Contest Match 30 Ryu Hayabusa vs. Jill Valentine
Status 26/29 Points: 026 Next: Sam Fisher vs. Gordon Freeman

Looks like he finally got it under 500. Is it just me or is this comeback painfully slow? He's not exactly making a Starcraft-type charge.
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Contest Winner: Mega Man | Score: 27/29
Current Oracle ranking: 3nd | Pick: Ryu H with 53.43%

Just like yesterday, if Ryu keeps up the gaining pace, he will be ahead by about 3pm contest time. Today Jill seems to have slowed him down a little more than yesterday. The question is, will she make a stand and hold on to her lead at some point, or will it just slip into the night?
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

If people prefer the old way (the oldest update on top), please let me know and I can very easily change it.

I prefer the new way. I saves having to go through a loading time and hitting 'End' just to see a 20 second vote trend.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I love how Ryu wins the day vote when some people were almost insistant upon the idea that Ryu maybe not be well known enough to compete.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Creativename, please tell me that you are archiving the CATS match pic, including the message, on your site.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Christ, I give it up and go wander around campus only to find that Hayabusa finally gained ground after being stalled for 5 hours at 800. Go Ninjas!
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

I agree with ulti, though I didn't read anything about it ans was quite confused the first time I saw the update page, it's a lot cooler to have the newest upadte on top if you want to look at what has happened most recently.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/31/2004 12:07:24 PM | Message Detail
Well, Jill wins. It's over, folks.

See, now we know for sure that Ryu H will come back and win this thing.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Odd how Slowflake's post directly coincides with when Ryu Hayabusa began coming back.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

After coming home from school and expecting to see Ryu in the lead, I must say I am surprised. I can't say I'm sad at Jill winning because I have her in my bracket, but this still doesn't seem right. I don't really see the controversy ending if Jill wins. Great...
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

Under 400.
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BtT: 3:59.15 | HRC: 50,053.8 ft OV aaaargh
Crash.

I'm trying to figure out the URL to enter for creativename's poll updater, but I can't figure it out. What do you enter after php?
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

??

You mean ?pollid=[insert poll number]
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Ryu Hayabusa 49.48% 18882
Jill Valentine 50.52% 19282
TOTAL VOTES 38164

It's been hovering at 400 for a couple of minutes now.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

This is sad for Jill fans. Stop the Ryu!!!
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

It was hoving at around 400, not anymore. Ryu H pushes forward yet again.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Only 340ish now....Ryu has a chance it seems.
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

The projected vote numbers on this match are somewhere around 71K right now. I don't know what this means other than it'll be definently more votes than yesterday. The question is, will the numbers move like yesterday's did? They seem to be about the same except that Jill got a much bigger earlier lead and it looks like it is going to take a lot longer for Ryu to turn it around today. I'm hoping that Ryu's momentum will stop like it did several times yesterday, because then Jill might actually be able to hold onto her lead. Just some numbers, but Jill took a little over 30 mins to get the lead this time, and she peaked a little over 9 hours into the contest. How far will she fall today? Will Ryu's strength stop at any point like it did a few times yesterday? Will Jill get those 38K votes.....
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

Ryu is 315 away when I make this post.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

How long until the "OGM RYU LEADS!!!11!" topics begin again?
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Jon Thomson - today: Ryu Hayabusa, tomorrow: Sam Fisher - 23/29
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005

Come on, Ryu, we need you more than ever.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

How long until the "OGM RYU LEADS!!!11!" topics begin again?

2004-08-31 13:37:25 19994 20290 49.63% 50.37% 296

Not too long, my friend, not too long.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

Ryu broke 300.
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BtT: 3:59.15 | HRC: 50,053.8 ft OV aaaargh
Crash.

Projecting numbers by taking the proportion of the day does NOT WORK. Voting trends differ throughout the day. Currently, we are a few thousand votes behind Vyse/Laharl at the same time of day. That puts us in the mid60s. Yesterdays afternoon trends showed an increase in awareness, and a HUGE increase in voting (from 50% of link to 85% of link), and a projection of low 60s. This match is hardly making up any votes, just a whole new, skewed voting pool. But the same trend, just in a larger, later scale.

Oh yeah, and at this time yesterday, Ryu was stabilizing his lead still, and began to pull away at around 3(6est). So I'd expect an even larger surge then. It'll come down to the night vote, which Jill seemed to get even later into the night, a short while into the match.
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Score: 28/29
Upcoming picks: Ryu, Sam, Samus, Link

Ulti:
Creativename, please tell me that you are archiving the CATS match pic, including the message, on your site.

Um...no, saving the pic didn't occur to me actually. And what message are you talking about?

So did anybody save that pic, or know the address of it?

I'm trying to figure out the URL to enter for creativename's poll updater, but I can't figure it out. What do you enter after php?

It's already been said, but: sc2k4.com/update.php?pollid=1622

Replace 1622 with whatever. 1622 was the first poll archived I believe.
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SC2K4.com/Frog

This doesn't have the message but...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b30oops.jpg
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Why even say anything about this match? Jill took a slightly bigger lead and Ryu's going to catch up a little later. Big whoop!

It's like I'm in August 30, 2004 all over again! Great idea Ceej!
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

I've never seen such a bunch of people give up hope with more than 12 hours left in a poll in my life. Seriously, you guys have to have more faith in your picks especially when Jill has like what? A 900 vote lead earlier? Pathetic.

You guys aren't exactly keen on optimism. ;) Look at Hayabusa now.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I apologize, HM, but he was down by 900 at the same point that he switched the lead yesterday. Anyway, Hayabusa still has Jill's night vote to contend with, so he's anything but a sure thing at this point.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

I was optimistic the whole time. In fact, I even said that everyone but slow should have faith earlier.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

In the last hour of this match

Ryu 2190
Jill 1968

That's 52.67% for Ryu. Just for anybody curious, he's chopping away at this pretty well! Out for the day now.. will see results at end. Shame to miss how the night will go. Go ryu!!
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Score: 28/29
Upcoming picks: Ryu, Sam, Samus, Link

It took Jill longer to take that lead as well. The question is will Ryu gain for a longer span of time or will Jill try to "stall" for the win?
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum04b30oops.jpg

Thanks a lot MasterMage, I've put it up in the SC2K4 gallery.
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SC2K4.com/Frog

No prob.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

In a matter of two minutes Hayabusa took the lead from 252 to 228. Lookin' good.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

This makes me happy:

2004-08-31 13:44:57 20276 20525 49.69% 50.31% 249

Hayabusa is gaining incredibly fast, at 250 votes in the last hour. Comparatively, he gained 50 votes in the same time period yesterday, and has yet to hit his peak time period where he simply dominated the poll.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

I've never seen such a bunch of people give up hope with more than 12 hours left in a poll in my life. Seriously, you guys have to have more faith in your picks especially when Jill has like what? A 900 vote lead earlier? Pathetic.

You guys aren't exactly keen on optimism. ;) Look at Hayabusa now.

Gee, I'm sorry, HM. I guess we all can't be as blissfully delusional as you can be. We'll try better next time.

On a side note, when did you concede defeat to Crono last year?
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"On a side note, when did you concede defeat to Crono last year?"

He didn't do that until the end... Crono had the lead and we only had the night vote to look forward to... which clearly indicates that Crono should have won that one. Mario pulled a huge surprise that most people believe he shouldn't be capable of (the clutch).
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

200, btw.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Under 200 Now...

Yes another point, I can feel it...lol

Bring on Gordy!
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Perfects to Fall: 35 SC2K4: 26/29 (Go Ryu!)

UNDER 200!

COMEBACK!
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Summer Contest Match 30 Ryu Hayabusa vs. Jill Valentine
Status 26/29 Points: 026 Next: Sam Fisher vs. Gordon Freeman

How would it have been delusional to think Hayabusa would have still won with more than 12 hours left in a poll? I just thought it was very dumb for people in this topic to just suddenly give up because Hayabusa wasn't matching exactly what he had yesterday at the same time. Heck, even Jill's lead was nothing to start stressing over.

As for when I gave up and admitted Crono's win was around 9:00 PM Central time when he was approaching a 1000 vote lead. There was only three hours left in that poll and Mario didn't show a sign of gaining.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Lead change should be coming up soon.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I saved the pic if you guys ever aim me for it. I also gave a copy to gob. I dunno if anyone other than ulti knows gob.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

Ryu Hayabusa 49.76% 20585
Jill Valentine 50.24% 20785
TOTAL VOTES 41370

Sweetness.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Can't tomorrow come quicker? Seeing Gordon get owned again will bring a smile back to my face...
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

This match is so intense...If I leave to eat I wonder what it'll be like when I get back. Jill only has a 150 or something lead as of right now, but it actually started to look like it's stabalizing. Maybe this is the big turn around. You never know....
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

creativename, here is the pic I was referring to earlier:

http://www.math.mcgill.ca/~burnell/Avatar/SC2k3CatsSpeaks.png
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Wow, people were actually giving up on Hayabusa because Jill's lead was bigger and it's taking him longer to overtake her? That's what higher vote totals will do for you. Ryu will take the lead soon and he won't be looking back.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

And Hayabusa's whittled the lead down to 100. Only a matter of time.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

nooooooooooo

so close
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

damn that lead shrunk fast
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

Wow, one day later and people seem to be forgetting that we already saw this match yesterday.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I've never seen such a bunch of people give up hope with more than 12 hours left in a poll in my life. Seriously, you guys have to have more faith in your picks especially when Jill has like what? A 900 vote lead earlier? Pathetic.


Inspirational words.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

While we're still in the fallout of the Olympics... who in the world is Hayabusa's chemist?

I get this feeling that pic may have been the last we will ever see of CATS in this contest.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Less than fifty.....
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

seems to be hanging around 50
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Wow, one day later and people seem to be forgetting that we already saw this match yesterday.

Yes, but people seem to be under the impression that the added voters may have had a large impact on the way the match is playing out. It may be right, it may not, but whatever.

Besides, some people may be seeing this for the first time anyway.
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In just about 5 hours, he has gained almost 900 votes... sweet. We know what happens for the next 4-5 hours, but what happens AFTER that? <Drama'd>
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I'm a Czar! Whee!

I get this feeling that pic may have been the last we will ever see of CATS in this contest.

Not a chance.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Hey, I nominated him in 2003, in 2004, but in 2005? Not a chance. I think some others feel the same way.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

I don't know... a few CS&D topics earlier, I mentioned that I wouldn't be nominating CATS again, because his match wasn't as fun as in previous years.

But that picture... I think I would nom him now.
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Ryu Hayabusa 50% 21933
Jill Valentine 50% 21933

Word.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

And Ryu takes the lead....to no one's surprise.
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Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

Ryu Hayabusa 50% 21933
Jill Valentine 50% 21933
TOTAL VOTES 43866

Finally happened, guys and gals. Now let's see what Ryu does with this.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

And it's over.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

No. NO, IT'S NOT.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Yes it is.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

And it's over.

Let's hope so, but there's always the night vote.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

good match, the only way Jill has of winning is hope that the lead doesn't go over 300 votes by night
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

"good match, the only way Jill has of winning is hope that the lead doesn't go over 300 votes by night"

If you're right then Jill may be in for a world of trouble. I can deffinately see Ryu increasing his lead to 300.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Bwahahaha....my plans have nearly come to fruition...all that is left now is for my evil minions to spread forth and take control of all of the good samaritans of the world and turn them into mindless, obedient servants of the one true Gordon.

So yeah...vote for Gordon on September 1st!
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"I don't know who you are but I thank you for arousing me." -- Terranigma

I'll vote for Gordon is Sam is more than doubling him.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Ryu lost the lead for a second there. This is staying close.
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SC2k4 Winner: Link
Status: 20/23 Next Pick: Sephiroth

Ryu Hayabusa 50% 22287
Jill Valentine 50% 22289
TOTAL VOTES 44576

yah
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Give it time. Hayabusa showed every indication that he'll take the night vote and run with it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Ryu has done jack squat since getting the lead.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Oh, wow, stalling... big surprise... we've never seen a character slow down for small periods of time in the midst of otherwise very large jumps before...
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Yeah, just look at the Halo/Starcraft graphs. The lead oscillated around 0 for an eternity when the morning vote pushed Halo over Starcraft.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

"Ryu has done jack squat since getting the lead."

A matter of coincidence. He should be running full speed in 15-20 minutes.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Ahh...Chic took the words right out of my mouth.

Ryu will kick in a little bit.
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

aren't the times on the site supposed to be showing me the gamefaqs time which should be 3 hours less than est? is my clock wrong?
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

Jill took the lead

I hope this is like FFT vs. MGS
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

This back and forth stuff is just great. <<
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Or maybe Jill will spurt back to the top now? Only time will tell...
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

Jill cant keep the lead well Ryu is.
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SC2k4 Winner: Link
Status: 20/23 Next Pick: Sephiroth

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

Besides, I have a feeling anytime the lead switches the dies losing the lead launches some sort of desperation attack. Basically, given human nature, it's not hard to beleive the 20-30 who WANT to stay honest get desperate when they see the lead change and decide to bust out with the vote stuffing. It would slow the advance as the tides turn but it wouldn't last long enough to stop it becuase it's just a hadnful of people using their last ditch effort to stop the impending march.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

I hope this is like FFT vs. MGS

Or it'll just be what Hayabusa-Jill was becoming yesterday when CJayC closed the poll.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

yah, but that was at the 730 mark
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

And we're not there yet, which is why Hayabusa isn't pulling away as we speak.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Jill had a lot of big stalls on Hayabusa's lead yesterday. This is the first time one of those stalls has become apparent today. I think that the common vote supports Jill and it's starting to show up in larger numbers than the stalls showed up yesterday, which is why instead of pulling away, Ryu is staying the same with Jill. This could stay within 100 votes for the next 3 hours even...that would be something. After that we don't know what's supposed to happen since that's when the polls shut yesterday.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

And after the 7:30 mark... the polls for the most part slow down... Only if it's tight at that time and Jill shows some movement in reversing the all-day Ryu trend can she win...
Let's hope it doesn't happen =)

"This could stay within 100 votes for the next 3 hours even..."

With the afternoon vote about to hit I'm not too sure that such a thing is all that posisble. Could be, but I wouldn't put money on it.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

what do you mean this is the afternoon vote
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

And Ryu pulls away.

Right on time, too.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

*eats words for now*
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

Agreed... I'm willing to not go eat my lunch till Ryu grabs a 100

"what do you mean this is the afternoon vote"

It's the day vote, but it's afternoon, see... you can also call it the kiddie rush, if you want, but this is where Ryu pulls away.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

all the kiddies are out of school except in Pacific time
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

And not all of them vote the moment they come home from school. No matter, school is out on in the time zone that counts (Arizona+Pacific) and this happens to be the point where Ryu is going to run awya with the vote.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

I went on AIM, and after having a ton of people IM me within literally seconds, I signed off. That said, I told one person that Ryu H would be fine. All of Jill's pushes during the zero lead phase are from Jill supporters spamming friends with 'OMFG JILL NEEDS HELP VOTE FOR HER!1!11!!' crap and voting with alts.

But now, they have run out of alts and friends. Assuming this match follows the same pattern as yesterday's, it should be over.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I'd say this is more of an after work rush if you ask me. Ryu pulled away steadily for the next 3 and half hours yestreday, which would imply that it isn't because of west coast kids getting out of school.
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SC2K4 Score: 27/29 (Hayabusa, Yoshi). About to be owned by ____ in the guru contest (Unless Magus and Sephiroth win).

okay so your expecting Ryu to have 200 vote lead in about a hour

possible
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Well... I'm in Los Angeles and I can tell you, even though I'm done with high school and will be attending Stanford in the fall... my brother is still on summer vacation meaning the kiddy vote here has been up since the midnight vote or early morning.

Jill.....PLAYTIME IS OVA.

You should be slapped if you thought Jill would have a chance after yesterday's match. This match was Ryu's since it started.

So Jill suffered a small loss from the casual voters yesterday, meh.
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Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

"I'd say this is more of an after work rush if you ask me."

Could be true, as NG strikes me of a game that hits harder with the people in their late teens/early tweenties... people who would likely not stay up late due to college/high school/work but would come vote in the late afternoon. Yes, that's the group Jill is supposed to appeal to as well, I know... but clearly Jill has been out of the potlight for too long to win the 18-25 vote.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

"my brother is still on summer vacation"

That's the exception, I do believe, and not the norm. Perhaps it may be prevalent throughout that area of California but many parts of the pacific time zone and Arizon have gone back to school.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

At least Hayabusa managed to pull away from the constant lead switching.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Ha! And the "Slowflake Throws In the Towel Factor" works out yet again. What a great benchmark. My, if the Gurus could have gotten access to the STITF results before the contest, there'd have been about 60 Perfect brackets tying for first.

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The lead didn't get up to 100 and now it's back down to 60. This isn't as closed as you might think it is. Jill supporters are starting to come out now which will even out the momentum that Ryu should've had as speculated from yesterday. If Jill actually owns the night vote and can keep this thing tight for a few hours, then who knows what'll happen.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

I think Jill just pulled back a fair size chunk. The lead went from 90 to 60.
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I GOTTA HAVE MORE COWBELL; Contest: 27/29
“TheRye is like Jesus, if Jesus ever played video games.” -Inviso

Jill doesn't seem to want to lose...
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BtT: 3:59.15 | HRC: 50,053.8 ft OV aaaargh
Crash.

Well damn, neither one of them are just going to "die".
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I'm a kid in the East whose still on vacation...
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Yuber lives in Pennslyvania...watching...

Jill has a 75% chance of victory at this point, I'd say.
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The only reason this is here is because posts without sigs look ugly.

"I'm a kid in the East whose still on vacation..."

No offense but that is both anecdotal and unrelated.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Back up to 80
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I GOTTA HAVE MORE COWBELL; Contest: 27/29
“TheRye is like Jesus, if Jesus ever played video games.” -Inviso

Jill has a 75% chance of victory at this point, I'd say.

Drop the 7 and you're about right.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Jill has a 75% chance of victory at this point, I'd say.

I definitely wouldn't say such.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

"Jill has a 75% chance of victory at this point, I'd say."

I dunno, Ryu jumped back up to 80. Neither one of them is just letting it go right now.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

This happened yesterday as well, she stalled for the next 15 minutes or so before Ryu began to steadily pull away. It's interesting how closely the trends are matching now.

Yesterday:

2004-08-30 15:07:27 19734 19481 50.32% 49.68% 253
2004-08-30 15:12:36 19845 19616 50.29% 49.71% 229
2004-08-30 15:26:13 20214 19979 50.29% 49.71% 235
2004-08-30 15:31:33 20389 20099 50.36% 49.64% 290

Today:

2004-08-31 15:07:19 23403 23316 50.09% 49.91% 87
2004-08-31 15:12:39 23572 23512 50.06% 49.94% 60
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SC2K4 Score: 27/29 (Hayabusa, Yoshi). About to be owned by ____ in the guru contest (Unless Magus and Sephiroth win).

Man, this match is close...
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I don't see how you can be confident in Ryu's victory considering his drop in performance compared to yesterday and Jill's increase. Ryu JUST recently gained the lead, at 3 pacific. That's nearly 8 hours later than last time. And his lead is increasing much more slowly too.

In other words, Jill easily padded her lead in the early hours thanks to more voters, and Ryu is just struggling more than last time. That means Jill benefited more from the extra voters. And with Ryu still struggling to even get to 100 or so. I'd be really worried about the way the vote goes in the last 2 or 3 hours. If Jill even gets a FRACTION of the advantage she had in the opening hours, she has it in the bag.

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Jill has a 75% chance of victory at this point, I'd say.

Drop the 7 and you're about right.

XXXXXXXD
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

In face, avenger, I think we're going to have to call this closer to 50/50. Ryu is still making strides forward as a whole, so we can't just call it in Jill's favor for him stalling from time to time. He is by no means the only competitor to do so.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

"If Jill even gets a FRACTION of the advantage she had in the opening hours, she has it in the bag."

Evening votes slow down considerably compared to the early night votes. Jill will need much more than a fraction of her advantage, especially if Ryu does build up a couple hundred votes.
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100
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Ryu Hayabusa 50.1% 23989
Jill Valentine 49.9% 23889
TOTAL VOTES 47878

And Hayabusa hits 100. It begins.
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Oh, and the 100 barrier is broken, badly.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Over 110.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

He's killing now.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I saw 124.

Jesus, this is good.
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I hope Sora crushes the winner of this match for making me suffah liek this!!!!!!!

;x

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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

The remainder of the match is so unpredictable now...Ryu will probably slowly gain votes but he'll experience a lot of stalls and at some point I think he will start to drop. I should find something to do until like 9pm EST or so when things get really exciting again.
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SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

Slowflake, I thought you'd know better than to say encouraging words liek that!
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/31/2004 6:24:54 PM | Message

Jesus, this is good

*cue Jill comeback*
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“TheRye is like Jesus, if Jesus ever played video games.” -Inviso

Aw, come on. Lemme have my fun from time to time!

It only seems to work when I state the winner like it's an official declaration like you'd hear on election day anyway.
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Though, Ryu Hayabusa just gained 0.02 %. =P

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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

I think Jill will win, but that's the dominant pessimist side of me.

But then again, pessimism is always the best route. If you're right, you're right. And if you're wrong, it's a good thing.
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...Unpredictable? We had the advantage of seeing how this match would play out a day in advance, and this is still unpredictable? It's following the same pattern as yesterday. Hayabusa will just continue to pull away and even if Jill does get the night vote, it won't be enough.
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Ryu's got that afternoon vote locked...
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Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

He just broke 150 now.

*golf claps*
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Closing in on 200 already...
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A Picture Is Worth 1,000 Words, But It Uses Up a Thousand Times the Memory

pessimism is always the best route

I'll take optimism. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

And preferably blind, right?
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2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Blind? Heh. We'll see...
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

"Blind? Heh. We'll see..."

*chuckles*
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Hey. I think I'll hang out in the stats topics. You guys seem like you know what yer talking about.

...you don't bite, do you?

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Optimism is always the best route. Pessimism is usually the right one.

With that said, I'm surprised that Ryu always seems to take big leaps forward while Jill slowly plods forward. This match isn't over by a longshot.
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Heroic Mario does, but he tries to let no one know about that.
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"...you don't bite, do you?"

Only on occasion.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Dude, Heroic Mario is the MASTER of optimism. I haven't heard a single bad word or lack of confidence about Mega Man from him.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Chichiri's the only one who bites, to my knowledge.
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Yeah. I mean, Tidus would be 50-50 with him with the night vote and HM would still be like "Megaman is going to win the championship".
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Well, what about the last Mario Vs. Crono?

*Crono's up by 80 with an hour to go*

HM: I give up

*Mario wins*
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Tidus could WIN and Heroic Mario would be liek "Mega Man has it locked."
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

><

800*
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*Crono's up by 800 with an hour to go*

HM: I give up

*CJayC wins*

There were two errors there. =X
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"...for extremely well thought out and irrrefutable reasons that the poster below me will provide." ~Aeon Azuran

Heroic Mario is the MASTER of optimism.

I don't believe in losing faith/being negative. So, I try. ;)
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

XD

Btw, Ryu seems to have trouble breaking 175...
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A Picture Is Worth 1,000 Words, But It Uses Up a Thousand Times the Memory

It took him quite a while to break 100. Hayabusa stalling for a little bit isn't a big deal.
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By the way, I can't wait to see that Mega Man vs. Tidus match. There are some just so sure he'll get 45% come Tuesday. =p
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

And there's someone in particular who's thinking Mega Man can do something so ridiculous as doubling Tidus up.
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2nd Round: (5)Kirby

"Btw, Ryu seems to have trouble breaking 175..."

Jesus Christ, we don't need to hear about what barriers Ryu is having trouble breaking. Not 175, not 100, not maintaing the lead. We KNOW that stalls happen and in the long run they don't affect overall gains unless the stall lasts for hours.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Jill is coming back. I repeat, Jill is coming back!
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Wow. Jill was gaining 1-2 votes everytime I pressed F5.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

"There are some just so sure he'll get 45% come Tuesday."

I think that if he does it should actually still be read as a good sign for MM. There's fair reason to suspect that Tidus has made a small increase since last year.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

I think that if he does it should actually still be read as a good sign for MM. There's fair reason to suspect that Tidus has made a small increase since last year.

Well, I'm not so sure that'd be a good read in the big scheme of things. Maybe for his division, but I'm concentrating on the championship so I'll need that 60-65%.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I know you are. I'm just trying to say that it doens't necessarily ruin your plans if MM doesn't reach the mid 60's... or the 60's at all.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Which means in order for Megaman to appear to be champion material, you have to assume that Earthworm Jim is on a level around Tails.

Bleh.
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I don't see how FFX-2 could make people like Tidus more...he had a minor role in it, and didn't act too much differently than before.
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Now is the time to choose: die and be free of pain, or live and fight your sorrow! ~Auron, Final Fantasy X

Perhaps.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

"you have to assume that Earthworm Jim is on a level around Tails."

I dunno if you mean Tail's actual strength or his poorly projected 2k3 strength, but if you mean the latter it isn't really that hard...
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Which means in order for Megaman to appear to be champion material, you have to assume that Earthworm Jim is on a level around Tails.

Jim does not have to be around Tails in order for him to win.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Under 90 now... this is a huge, HUGE surge. I smell a rat.
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100 again...
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A Picture Is Worth 1,000 Words, But It Uses Up a Thousand Times the Memory

That's... weird.

I'd have trouble picking EJ over someone like Vyse.
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Ryu Hayabusa 50.09% 24915
Jill Valentine 49.91% 24824
TOTAL VOTES 49739

It's down to under a 100 vote difference now.
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"I demand pie!" - OooO

Ah, ah Tails strength in 2003 (not adjusted). Well, even then he wouldn't have to be at that particular level but him being around there really isn't out there.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

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Hayabusa's striking back. Thank God.

That spike just seemed so weird. Jill caught up 80 votes in 10 minutes!
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Ceej says no cheating, I still say it's suspicious.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

It's not that strange, these close matches always tend to go in one persons direction for a few minutes and then switch up again.
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"I demand a moderator"
"I demand pie!" - OooO

Oh, Ceej made a topic.

I'm thinking he saw that spike too.
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Yeah, he did, and any smart cheater would have quit as soon as they saw it, too. "Mass Cheating" doesn't necessarily cover a sizeable dent of say 30-40 votes. While I could see control flipflopping a little that is just the oddest spike we've seen all day. Reversals like that usually are signs of cheating, and it's a good thing that Ceej will be keeping on top of it.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Ryu went to stage a comeback almost immeadiately after ceej said somethign then pulled into the usual stall. Gotta say, that spike looks awfully out of place... and will look like a sore thumb if Ryu continues to gain as a whole for the next couple hours.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Hm. Jill's coming back again.
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I can't see why the voting pattern would mirror yesterday so closely then take a rather drastic turn this late.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

And, may I mention Ryu H is by no means allowing a comeback at this point. That tiny little spike was countered in full.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

I guess you don't think Cjay's looking close enough...
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I chose the road less traveled -- now where the heck am I?
A Picture Is Worth 1,000 Words, But It Uses Up a Thousand Times the Memory

Well, it WAS countered in full...

And you are correct, I don't believe Ceej is looking close enough.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

The only time CJayC has ever done anything was when he caught users voting en masse. He even admits to not caring about people voting with alts, so long as more than one person does it. What the hell is that? Fix the problem, don't acknowledge it and no nothing.
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*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

The problem is, what is his minimal limit for cheating en masse? Would say... 30 votes be enough to be counted? We've never seen him declare anything less than 500 votes to be cheating en masse, and we know Jill doens't need that much just yet.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

And ryu has taken it back over 120 again... It'd be funny if a cheater was trying to be, shall we say, discrete about their actions unaware that ceej has looked and will be looking again. I dunno what His idea of mass cheating is, but in a match this damn close it better be a number equal to or perhaps even smaller than the final gap between the two, because if there is just barely enough to reverse the decision it shouldn't be allowed.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Funny that, Ryu is back to where he was before Jill spiked.

Nope, nothing fishy going on at all...
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Now Ryu's up by 170. This is awesome.

I can't believe I'm going to get one of the most important points in the tournament. :-)
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I agree. Nothing fishy is going.

Except in a non-sarcastic sort of way.
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Well Ryu is up by 190.
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OMG jill got a small voting spike over ryu for about 5 minutes. Teh cheetz0rz !111233!!!shift!1! or not...
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"I demand pie!" - OooO

Ryu broke 200 for a moment but now he's back...

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If you add monster truck tires to the Pope-mobile, religion suddenly becomes funny - SSJ3 Popo

Avenger, if you would be so kind, point out a match that had no cheating but featured such a large and highly irregular spike right in the middle of a given character's weakest point during the day.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

How do you know it's Jill's weakest part of the day? All you have for reference is a gimp poll. Since Ryu has proven to be weaker in this poll and Jill stronger, I don't find it hard to imagine at all.
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These voting shifts happen all the time in close matches, I highly doubt that their was any mass cheating going on.
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"I demand a moderator"
"I demand pie!" - OooO

Well, it was actually a much larger window than 5 minutes, and if we take out the span from 15:42 to 16:16 Ryu has done nothing but gain as a whole. For a span of 30 minutes Jill fought back, and she did it only for 30 minutes in the middle of a time period where Ryu is expected to and has dominated? That's out of the ordinaray.

Sure, it may only have accounted for 100 unfair votes, but I think it deserves a closer look.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Lookin' good for Hayabusa.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

"All you have for reference is a gimp poll."

And uh, all of today's poll too. Duh. You don't just gain ground out of the blue when you're losing it that badly then stop gaining that ground and lose every last bit of it shortly after Ceej announces that he is looking for cheaters.

Again, find ANY poll where the same thing has happened that does't have serious doubt cast upon it.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Ryu is now a good deal over 200.
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"These voting shifts happen all the time in close matches, I highly doubt that their was any mass cheating going on."

I've watched every close match pretty closely except Sonic/Samus and I've got a very good feel of how the voting trends work. Stalls are to be expected, minor loses as well, but you don't take an 80 point loss in the middle of your peak hours for no reason.
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15:15 | Ryu Hayabusa | 23677 | +0520 | 50.09% | Jill Valentine | 23592 | +0488 | 49.91% | Lead of 0085 | (Up 32)
15:30 | Ryu Hayabusa | 24292 | +0615 | 50.18% | Jill Valentine | 24120 | +0528 | 49.82% | Lead of 0172 | (Up 87)
15:45 | Ryu Hayabusa | 24778 | +0486 | 50.13% | Jill Valentine | 24652 | +0532 | 49.87% | Lead of 0126 | (Down 46)

This down is easy to see. As you can see, Jill' votes actually remains steady, while Ryu shot down.

16:00 | Ryu Hayabusa | 25255 | +0477 | 50.13% | Jill Valentine | 25121 | +0469 | 49.87% | Lead of 0134 | (Up 8)
16:15 | Ryu Hayabusa | 25702 | +0447 | 50.09% | Jill Valentine | 25606 | +0485 | 49.91% | Lead of 0096 | (Down 38)

Again, a rather consistent number for Jill, but notice Ryu's drop below 450, which is rather rare.

16:30 | Ryu Hayabusa | 26154 | +0452 | 50.17% | Jill Valentine | 25974 | +0368 | 49.83% | Lead of 0180 | (Up 84)
16:45 | Ryu Hayabusa | 26643 | +0489 | 50.21% | Jill Valentine | 26415 | +0441 | 49.79% | Lead of 0228 | (Up 48)

The only thing I find suspicious here is Jill's sudden drop, and then back up to its normal levels. I suppose it can be explained, but I wouldn't use cheating UNLESS constant cheating has been going on for her for the past 2 hours. Which I find unbelievable that Ceej wouldn't catch.

IE, no cheating.

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Anyone know how big Ryu's lead was when the total votes were just over 51,000??? (The figure just before he closed the poll yesterday) I know he had just over a 700 vote lead when the poll closed yesterday, and I was just curious what the difference in voting was through the exact same number of total votes.
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over 300, it's over
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Wait, who's expected to get the night vote?
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i don't know, wasn't he building his lead yesterday at a much faster pace?
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Jill's peak lead was 895. Where would this rank Hayabusa on the all-time list of largest margin overcome for the victory? I know it's got to be near the top, possibly #2 behind StarCraft-Wind Waker. That's not a bad debut against a long-time contest veteran.
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here's a list that are bigger

SC vs. WW
Samus vs. Sonic
SC vs. Halo

that's all a can remember
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How much did KH make up on Soul C? The *almost* biggest comeback ever was DH/DK, which I believe was over 3,000, but fell a hundred+ too short.
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Oh right. Forgot about those other two. It should still be #4 then. I don't think Mario-Crono's was that high.
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;_;

Duck Hunt came so close... 3300 vote comeback and still come up 143 short. =(
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Wait, who's expected to get the night vote?

Ryu, Jill tied him all afternoon and evening yesterday, but Ryu pulled ahead of her near the end of the poll.

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Ryu, Jill tied him all afternoon and evening yesterday, but Ryu pulled ahead of her near the end of the poll

Incorrect.


Jill took the first 8 hours of the poll rather easily.

So for the first 8 hours, Jill had the advantage.

Ryu started coming back after those 8 hours and then took the advantage for the next 11. So Ryu has the afternoon and evening, they were not "tied" in terms of incoming votes.

The last 5 hours of the poll are unknown.
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"The last 5 hours of the poll are unknown."

If that is the case, and Ryu was still gaining when Ceej shut it down, then Jill will have to wait out a 2 hour mutual stall before she can stage a comeback in the least busy hours of the poll. Things aren't looking to be in her favor.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Ryu was gaining steadily even. You may even say he was picking up pace. He had it in complete control.

If Ryu can do the same thing right now then I won't worry. But he was being a little rocky the rest of the day.
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Ryu is over 400 now. It does look quite safe for him.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Over 400 does indeed look like a safe margin right now.
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Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I'm not worried for up to the 21:00 mark.

It's the last three hours that I have my eye on.
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I actually think Ryu has stopped gaining for the moment. 423 for the past 5 mins. or so. Turn around time?
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SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

No, stalling for a little while isn't unusual. It's happened all day for both sides. As long as Jill isn't taking chunks off the lead, Hayabusa's in good shape.
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2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Does anybody know how large Ganondorf's comeback against Magus was?

And to completely change the subject, how well do you guys think Vaan and Ashe (from FFXII) would do in the contest next year?

Assuming FFXII is pretty popular and is released in say June, I wouldn't be that shocked if Vaan managed to pull Noble Nine numbers and possibly sneak into the Elite Eight for 2005 due to the recency of its release.

Ashe will probably be around Zero or Aeris level since she seems to play a pretty big role in the game.
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And to completely change the subject, how well do you guys think Vaan and Ashe (from FFXII) would do in the contest next year?

Sweet Sixteen at best, given good seeding. There's recent, and then there's too recent. I'd expect them to do better in 2K6 than 2K5.
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"I wouldn't be that shocked if Vaan managed to pull Noble Nine numbers"

I would be, it took Tidus years to do that.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Vaan may be the most umm... eccentric looking character in videogame history. I don't know how many casuals would vote for a guy that reminds me of Michael Jackson.
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Status: 25/29 Next Pick: Ryu H (TEH NINJA)

Does anybody know how large Ganondorf's comeback against Magus was?

There was no comeback. Ganondorf never had the lead in that match, and he never really got closer than 400-500 throughout the day.

And don't expect too much from FFXII next year. Give it time to settle in first. Not to mention, we have to make sure that Vaan's not another Zidane and Ashe isn't the next Rinoa.
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Well, I've got my own theories that for characters in a big name game for the first couple months their popularity is huge, then for a while they take a dip in popularity and then as word of mouth spreads about the game they start rising again.

But this is again just a theory, and I for one think that FFXII will give us some interesting opportunities* to study the full spectrum of a character's popularity growth, to see whether my crazy theories are right or not.

*Assuming it's released close to the start of the contest.
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"All that sloshing around of internal organs, how does it not drive you insane?"--HK-47

Yeah, I wouldn't expect exceptional numbers out of FFXII characters so soon after its release. Especially if the main character is unpopular, like Zidane.
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Ninjas > you.

Final Fantasy XII doesn't have an official release date yet. I don't think it'll even be released in Japan until 2005, making it unlikely it'll be out before the Summer Contest.
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Sheesh, just as I log in Jill takes a chunk out of the lead. Under 400 now.
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Oh no! Jill is making an unstoppable comeback! Victory is inevitable! Slow, you should just go ahead and call the match.
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2nd Round: (5)Kirby

And to completely change the subject, how well do you guys think Vaan and Ashe (from FFXII) would do in the contest next year?

They probably wouldn't be anything threatening. In fact, the game is projected to be released here in Winter of 2005 according to IGN. So, the odds of them even making it in next year don't exactly seem likely. If they did, I would imagine around the mid to low 20's. You have to understand that being too recent won't exactly help.

Assuming FFXII is pretty popular and is released in say June, I wouldn't be that shocked if Vaan managed to pull Noble Nine numbers and possibly sneak into the Elite Eight for 2005 due to the recency of its release.

That would be very shocking if you ask me. It is far, far to recent to pull Noble Nine numbers and the only character to come close to that is Tidus and even then his game came out in 2001. That's given him plenty of time to get settled in the contest be around for a while and still remain in the more "recent" category. You also have the ability of Vaan being one of those weaker Final Fantasy characters.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yeah, right.

At the current pace, Jill should have the lead before midnight Eastern.

Jill Valentine is the winner of this match.
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SC2K4 Status - Points: 027/029 - Matches: 27/29 - Rank: 00365/33221 - Today: Hayabusa - Tomorrow: Sam

Ashe will probably be around Zero or Aeris level since she seems to play a pretty big role in the game.

There is no way I could see her come close to possibly upsetting Zero.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Jill Valentine is the winner of this match.

Thank you, Slow, even if it is in jest.
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

Well, my comments were more what would happen assuming FFXII was as popular as FFX, which probably won't happen.

From what I've heard Ashe appears to be almost a dual main character of sorts, which is why I put her high although I could be wrong, about the main character part of it.
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"All that sloshing around of internal organs, how does it not drive you insane?"--HK-47

I honestly couldn't even see Vaan being that high.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

it's odd because Ryu's momentum has come to a complete stop. They've been bouncing around between 400 - 425 for at least 30 mins. now. I think so at least...
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

And Jill and Ryu were bouncing around 800-900 for 4.5 hours earlier in the day. Your point?
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Current Pick: Hayabusa; Current Vote: Hayabusa; Points: 28/29
Ninjas > you.

Jill was stalled around 700-800 for several hours. This is no big deal.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Well, we are in more of the "night vote" area now I believe so it becoming more even wouldn't really surprise me. Either way, unless Jill starts taking out chunks of his lead soon I wouldn't be confident in her doing anything.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Jill is trickling into Ryu's lead ridiculously slowly. I'd call it a deadlock right now...

...c'mon, Ryu...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Well, Jill staged a comeback and failed. Ryu took back most of his loses. Looks like we are headed for the lull before the tides turn. Chances are, however, it will be too late for Jill to make good on it.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

This match has already had, what, four comebacks?
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

I just got 399 vote difference. This is going slowly but Jill is still working at it. Remember how Ryu got stalled when they got to the tie? Well maybe those same desperation votes are being thrown at Ryu now to keep him going forward. Jill could start gaining slow momentum soon. It's all a matter of how well it'll help with under 5 hours to go. It would be intense to see it get even with like 30 mins to go.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

The lead has been stalled around 400 for about an hour now. Jill can't afford just to go 50/50 with Ryu. She has to start cutting into the lead now.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

"Well maybe those same desperation votes are being thrown at Ryu now to keep him going forward"

It's not desperation if you don't know you're in eminent danger... that's why it would be much more noticable when the lead changes.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Back over 400.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

"Back over 400."

Sucks to be Jill, but it's not like it was unexpected. It'd be too soon for her to stage a real comeback.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Am I the only one who doesn't get the point of saving your vote until the end? A vote is a vote is a vote.

And also, I think it's hilarious how we all treat these people like they're actual characters in a competition... "Jill has the momentum," "Ryu is about to make his move."

It's kind of amusing.

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If you add monster truck tires to the Pope-mobile, religion suddenly becomes funny - SSJ3 Popo

shhh! don't let ryu hear you say that CFTF!
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~*Blade X*~
Summer Contest (28/29): Today: Ryu

Well, it's easier than saying the fans of Jill or the voters for Hayabusa are voting at a more rapid pace or something like that. It's more fun to treat it like an actual battle between them. Whoo-hoo!

And I don't understand the idea of saving a vote either. I vote at the first chance I get.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

lol
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Summer 2004 Contest 25/29 Jill vs. Ryu H.

Looks like he's kind of taking off now.

Despite how Hayabusa looks to have this won, it is good to see that Jill didn't go down badly.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

well, I think voting either in the first few minutes or only in a close match the last few minutes is better than just normal voting. Cause in those two scenarios it just appears that your vote does more i.e. it affects the early percentages, and could bust a tie. Does it really change anything? no, but it just seems better
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Today's Survivor topic can be found here, Please vote : ) http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=16036523

Speaking of which, Hayabusa is pulling away again. The lead's up to 440.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

About the question on how FF12's Ashe and Vaan would do. We don't know yet, the only way to tell is to see how FF12 performs. The game comes out roughly six months before the Su2K5 contest begins, and it'll have to get some buzz during that time. We all know that can happen, look at FF10, came out roughly 6 or so months before the 2002 contest and Tidus made some noise.
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Life would be much easier if I had the source code.

It won't even come out in Japan until early 2005. Like I said earlier, we probably won't see it before next year's contest. Vaan doesn't look like that great of a character anyway. Balthier and Ashe look a lot more interesting.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

I'm not sure how well Vaan could do. Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it not rumored that Vaan was homosexual? Nothing is wrong with that, of course, but I doubt that the generally homophobic teenagers out there would vote for a character like that. Has that been disproven or something? I assume it has, because he is supposed to have a female love interest in the story, but I don't know. =/
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

For all this talk of Jill coming back, Ryu has managed to stem the stall and increase his lead to 440. Jill will need one hell of a push, and soon, to overtake the people that will inevitably rush to defend Ryu should she decide to make a push in the first place.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Uh...No, he's not. I'm sure that was just a rumor spread by people as an insult to his character design. Vaan has a girlfriend when the game begins.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Vaan would likely be one of the weaker Square characters, along the lines of a Kefka or a Sora.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Yeah, FF12 could end up like FF9 where the game was good but the characters were just not "popular" enough to get in.
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Contest Stats: 27/29 Next Pick: Ryu Hayabusa
Today's subliminal thought is:

Heh. I noticed you changed your signature. Is that a recent change?

Oh, and I hope you are right. I don't want Jill to do the Mario. ^_~
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

I actually think Vaan is going to be a far better character than someone like Cloud. Especially in his relationship with Penelo, seeing how he matures...

But Baltheir kicks ass.

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If you add monster truck tires to the Pope-mobile, religion suddenly becomes funny - SSJ3 Popo

I sincerly doubt he or any other SquareSoft character in the near future will be as successful as Cloud, who won a contest.
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Contest Stats: 27/29 Next Pick: Ryu Hayabusa
Today's subliminal thought is:

I agree with Vaan being one of the weaker Square characters.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I doubt there will ever be another Square character as popular as Cloud. Vaan looks like a mixture between Zidane and Vyse (a thief who wants to be a sky pirate), but I'm not so sure about how he'll be as a character, development-wise.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Which really sucks. Because Cloud is a character who looks like a Lego (with a personality of one, to match)... meh.

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If you add monster truck tires to the Pope-mobile, religion suddenly becomes funny - SSJ3 Popo

I don't see a problem with Cloud myself.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

The only problem with Cloud is that he pales in comparison to other FF leads like Squall, Ramza, and even Tidus.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

That's because there isn't one. He is a very well developed character actually. He just was cursed to come from the most popular RPG ever and as such garners a lot of hate.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Me neither, personally I liked Cloud as a character in FF7 and think that he isn't overrated like everyone says
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Current SC2K4 Score: 28/29
COWS are for Milking, not GAMES

looks like jill is making a comeback
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<reptile-> The first time hypr opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside he yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"
<hypr> wtf are donut seeds

Not really. Hayabusa's just stalling around 420. Jill hasn't been able to make a solid cut into his lead since Ryu took over.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Looks like you have no idea what you are talking about.
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The topic is dead. Not the kind of dead that can be cured with a Phoenix Down. I'm talking FMV sequence dead.- The King in Teal

Well, as much as I wish that 40 vote gian would have stuck they are back to 400. Interesting.

ANd on the topic of Vaan... well, if he is at least halfway decent chances are that he'd be able to topple Squall. As much as people like to defend Squall there are certain aspects of him that turn people off, and it's not just that the game he was from felt like it was incomplete.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

looks like jill is making a comeback

If you call Ryu gaining another 20 votes a comeback.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Zidane is halfway decent and I think Squall would beat him down.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Championship
2nd Round: (5)Kirby

Zidane, for one, is under different circumstances... and he hasn't been tested yet, so we haven't got conclussive evidence, just a really good guess.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

Four hours left. Looks like this will have one of the lowest vote totals in the contest.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

It isn't difficult to figure out why, though.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Jill isn't even looking to reach her usual 38K...
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Tommy vs. Max - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ryu vs. Jill - Bracket: Ryu - Vote: Jill (27/29)

Yeah. I was well aware of the reason before posting, but I just felt like commenting on it.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

I've been rather absent from things the last couple of days; who would have won if the poll hadn't been redone?

Also, I think it was stupid to totally redo the poll; Ceej should've just let it run an extra day like he did for Pokemon/Xenosaga in the spring.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

who would have won if the poll hadn't been redone?

Odds are the same person who is winning now.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Ryu's a lil' over 400 votes ahead, and I'm gonna go to bed. I hope he pulls it out, but I hope it gets down to the friggin' wire, too. The win is much more important though, heh.
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Supporting both Earthworm Jim AND Mega Man in 2004
Spring Contest Score: 151/192

Also, I think it was stupid to totally redo the poll; Ceej should've just let it run an extra day like he did for Pokemon/Xenosaga in the spring.

I agree. Hell, Xenogears/Pokemon only had the board users voting, so that match was even more screwy than a server screwup.
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Contest Stats: 27/29 Next Pick: Ryu Hayabusa
Today's subliminal thought is:

Also, I think it was stupid to totally redo the poll; Ceej should've just let it run an extra day like he did for Pokemon/Xenosaga in the spring.

NEVER REFER TO XENOGEARS AS XENOSAGA AGAIN.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Yeah, Ulti is right, you just insulted Xenogears pretty badly.
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True love is a fairy tale. I'm damaged, so how would I know? - Plummet: Damaged

So is it over? Or will there be an outpour of support in these last few hours?
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 3:44.87 || HRC 37,179.9 ||
SC2K4 24 / 29 Next Pick: Jill Valentine

It's not just that, either; by totally wiping the existing votes and redoing the poll it lets people who voted before change their vote, which isn't really fair, especially considering how close this match has been.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

And yeah, sorry about the Xenogears thing, I blanked for a minute I guess.
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

Yes. Yes you did.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

while i agree... Xenogears is much more of a game... Xenosaga isn't horrible..
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If you're worried people are talking about you... you're probably right.

Approaching a 500 vote lead now.
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SC2k4 Winner: Mega Man
Ken Masters; the fighting king clothed in blazing fire.

Yeah, Ryu is looking good.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

On the subject of Vaan, I'd probably do something stupid and have him winning a match that almost no other Board 8 users have him winning, kinda like the people who have Frog over Solid Snake.

I'd see him around the level of Frog.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Frog? Naw. I see him more around Ryu H. Maybe Frog in 2k6, but not 2k5.
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Summer Contest Match 30 Ryu Hayabusa vs. Jill Valentine
Status 26/29 Points: 026 Next: Sam Fisher vs. Gordon Freeman

might as well help finish this one off...
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"Spira is full of death...only SIN is reborn, and then only to bring more death. It is a cycle of death, spiraling endlessly."- Auron

It might be a bit late to bring this up, but how strong do you think Vivi would be if he had had the bracket support?
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf

Might as well.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Bah. I miss one first round match and it's the one that most likely means 3 points rather than 1. It also means my chance to finish in the prizes. Oh well, at least I can enjoy things a little more now.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk

I'd say 60% on DK wouldn't be out of the question.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Oh and by the way, Captain Planet sucks.
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Winner of the Spring 2004 'Best. Game. Ever.' Contest
*Married to smitelf on 5/21/04* ++SCC GOD++

Then again my love for Vivi would make me do stupid things with him.
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Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal

Board 8 does _________ > Captain Planet
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Summer Contest Match 30 Ryu Hayabusa vs. Jill Valentine
Status 26/29 Points: 026 Next: Sam Fisher vs. Gordon Freeman

Agreed.
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Not all those who wander are lost...
There is no god, and the cage wasn't 30 feet. - CM Punk