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Contest Stats & Discussion - Part 21
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 6/5/2004 9:25:59 PM | Message Detail
Ulti, you've won the guru contest, no doubt. I just can't see CT winning the match, and if it does... whoo boy. Anywya, I really wanna see the guru standings just to know where everyone is ending up at, I really think I got a good chance at second.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 6/5/2004 9:33:15 PM | Message Detail
I have to hope that HM's curse in close matches holds true.

This next match won`t be closer than FFVII vs. OoT.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 6/5/2004 9:43:24 PM | Message Detail
Heh, you never know HM. Could be reverse SFF, or CT could be that much stronger than Crono.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 6/5/2004 9:45:04 PM | Message Detail
For the last ounce of niceness this contest could give me I don`t want CT getting closer than OoT. =\


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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 6/5/2004 9:49:03 PM | Message Detail
Boy, and we know how nice this contest has been to you. I want it to get as close as 3000 votes, no closer. I want a safe FF7 win but I want it to look good.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 6/5/2004 9:57:01 PM | Message Detail
Wait... that wouldn`t be so bad if CT got close would it? It would help my preaching of ALttP being almost equal to OoT and make ALttP look very good in the first place, heh.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 6/5/2004 10:11:59 PM | Message Detail
Yep, it would. In fact, the rankings could show LttP above OoT which would certainly make me happy.
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And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 6/5/2004 10:14:33 PM | Message Detail
In fact, the rankings could show LttP above OoT which would certainly make me happy.

It`d make me happy too. I love both of them, but ALttP just a little more.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 6/5/2004 10:15:25 PM | Message Detail
Well, I love LttP, but I pretty much couldn't care less about OoT.
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From: andaca | Posted: 6/6/2004 12:21:02 AM | Message Detail
And CT started off strong, and here, about 15 minutes in, is up by a hundred with roughly 52 percent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like it could be good for CT. While i hesitate to give it a reasonable chance of winning until we see whether this is still just the board vote, it does seem that it will pull in as the second strongest game in this contest.
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120 pts.
CT vs FF7(OoT)
From: andaca | Posted: 6/6/2004 1:02:56 AM | Message Detail
Percent of Brackets with FF7 making it to Final four - 58.97
Percent of brackets with FF& making it to finals - 47.4

So, 11.57 percent of all brackets had FF7 going down to something from the 128 division...seems a bit higher than i would have expected....

in other news, around one hour in CT started to crash and burn. Ah well..
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120 pts.
CT vs FF7(OoT)
From: RamzaB | Posted: 6/6/2004 1:03:52 AM | Message Detail
Better fight than anything else put up against FF7 and Cloud.
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From: creativename | Posted: 6/6/2004 1:53:32 AM | Message Detail
I really love this showing by Chrono Trigger. Final Fantasy VII is going to keep going up, especially during the day. But it appears very unlikely to pass 60%. So it looks as if SFF will not play a role here--the loyalty of Square fans is shown yet again! ;o)

I would guess that Final Fantasy VII will finish between 56%-58.5%.

Also, I think this is the first time any game had a lead on Final Fantasy VII outside the first couple dozen votes or so.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 6/6/2004 1:54:47 AM | Message Detail
Yeah. Chrono Trigger has held the longest lead on Final Fantasy VII.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 6/6/2004 2:01:20 AM | Message Detail
In other news it looks like the Summer Contest isn`t going to start on July 1st according to the news on the homepage.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 6/6/2004 5:04:24 AM | Message Detail
Just so you all see it: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=14455877
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From: cyko | Posted: 6/6/2004 6:45:31 AM | Message Detail
good contest everyone. it's kind of amusing how the final match is the final match that most of us predicted would happen. no surprises at all today.

so next up is the Summer Contest. CJayC also said that nominations will be up soon. so i guess that means we now get to discuss who we are nominating. any guesses on how the nomination form will work? it seems simple, but i would rather just nominate 10 characters, regardless of their series, company, genre, or whatever. i hope CJay doesn't try anything complicated.

oh and in accordance with our guru challenge, my sig commends Ulti's great luck and skill. =P

great job, again, man. and if you're looking to share the wealth, i really want a copy of Zelda: Four Swords for Gamecube. ;)

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From: steve illumina | Posted: 6/6/2004 7:10:52 AM | Message Detail
Congrats Ulti!

Lookin forward to your 100 Games List...that should spur some nice debate!
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From: smitelf | Posted: 6/6/2004 7:19:40 AM | Message Detail
So, Ulti...what degrading homage to you are we contest gurus to put in our sigs tomorrow?
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From: nh82 | Posted: 6/6/2004 7:22:20 AM | Message Detail
Well, I don't know about you lot, but here's my temporary tribute to Ulti. Obviously it's up to you if you want me to change it or not.

Till then, well done. And it's been a pleasure going through the contest with you all! Here's to summer, and a non-Squaresoft, non-Nintendo winner...

Ha.

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From: smitelf | Posted: 6/6/2004 7:27:45 AM | Message Detail
Till then, well done. And it's been a pleasure going through the contest with you all! Here's to summer, and a non-Squaresoft, non-Nintendo winner...

Ha.


Yes, I'll go fantasize about HK-47 winning the summer character contest...<_<
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 6/6/2004 9:56:33 AM | Message Detail
I think I'm going to make a mock Summer 2004 bracket, just for fun. I'll post it here when I'm done.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 6/6/2004 10:49:28 AM | Message Detail
Alright, here's my little pretend 2004 bracket...tell me what y'all think.

North Division:

1- Cloud Strife
16- Raziel

8- Dante
9- Lara Croft

5- Alucard
12- Yuna

4- Squall
13- Ghaleon

6- Kirby
11- Jill Valentine

3- Zero
14- Tails

7- Gordon Freeman
10- CATS

2- Mega Man
15- Bomberman

East Division:

1- Mario
16- Adol Christin

8- Left Paddle
9- Right Paddle

5- Ryu (SF)
12- Ryu Hayabusa

4- Sonic
13- Conker

6- Frog
11- Master Chief

3- Tidus
14- Ken Masters

7- Donkey Kong
10- Morrigan

2- Crono
15- Sam Fisher

South Division:

1- Link
16- Duke Nukem

8- Strider Hiryu
9- Scorpion

5- Shadow (SA2)
12- Felix

4- Zelda
13- Kefka

6- Luigi
11- Wario

3- Magus
14- Fox McCloud

7- Auron
10- Pac-Man

2- Snake
15- Crash Bandicoot

West Division:

1- Sephiroth
16- Ryo Hazuki

8- Yoshi
9- KOS-MOS

5- Bowser
12- Viewtiful Joe

4- Aeris
13- Captain Falcon

6- Vercetti
11- Sora

3- Ganondorf
14- Eliwood

7- Knuckles
10- Mewtwo

2- Samus
15- Fawful

Comments in my next post...
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 6/6/2004 11:02:30 AM | Message Detail
Overall, I kept the bracket pretty light on new characters, and outside of Frog, I doubt that any of them will make significant noise anyway.

North Division:

Taking a cue from Snow- err, Slowflake (I can never spell that name right...), I included a Kirby vs. Jill rematch, which I also think would be very interesting to watch.

Due to popular demand, I threw in Ghaleon, who happens to be the only contest greenhorn in the division.

And yes, I do realize that the seeding in Gordon vs. CATS is totally off, but who wouldn't want to see this match? ^_^

East Division:

I'll be damned if anybody in this topic besides me has ever heard of Adol Christin before. I threw 'im in as fodder for the big red guy.

In another match of totally misplaced seedings, I pitted the two Pong paddles against each other. Lame? Yes. Hard as hell to predict? Hell yes.

Ryu vs. Ryu would be rather amusing to see, and since everybody else has included it in their brackets, I might as well too.

Assuming that all goes well, Mario will face Sonic on his way to MvC III. If those two matches were included in the real bracket...I <3 CJayC.

South Division:

I brought Strider back into the bracket, just 'cause he's so damn cool. Zelda vs. Kefka would be interesting...as would Auron vs. Pac-Man.

West Division:

Yoshi vs. KOS-MOS...now that would be a cool match. I also put Aeris in the same half-division as Sephiroth, for obvious reasons. ^_^

I have no clue who'd win between Knuckles and Mewtwo, either.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 6/6/2004 11:08:22 AM | Message Detail
Obviously, that bracket was more designed for entertainment than seriousness. But it would be nice to see all the same.

And yes, I do realize that the seeding in Gordon vs. CATS is totally off, but who wouldn't want to see this match? ^_^

Switch the seeds on them, and I could realistically see that match happening.

I'll be damned if anybody in this topic besides me has ever heard of Adol Christin before. I threw 'im in as fodder for the big red guy.

Ys series. At least he was in multiple games, which makes for better fodder.

I also put Aeris in the same half-division as Sephiroth, for obvious reasons. ^_^

But.. but... Aeris is supposed to be an 11 seed!

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From: cyko | Posted: 6/6/2004 11:16:09 AM | Message Detail
that's not a bad bracket, Phediuk. good job. ^_^

here are the few flaws i see, though:

North Division:

some great matchups here. Dante vs. Lara is a good close one, with a slight edge to Dante. Alucard vs. Yuna is good, too. i also like the Kiirby vs. Jill rematch. and Zero vs. Megaman would be awesome, although i can't see Megaman losing that one.

my only complaint in this division is the (7) vs. (10) match - Gordon vs. CATS. CATS is a half - joke of a character that doesn't deserve more than a 15 seed. honestly i don't think he deserves to be in this contest at all, but the contest really wouldn't be the same without the CATS army. but no way should he ever get a 10 seed. and Gordon; pppffftt...... he lost to Max Payne and Tina's breasts, so he definitely does not deserve a 7 seed. give him a 11 seed at best.

East Division:

Tidus higher than Sonic? i don't think so. i know we all want to see a Sonic vs. Mario match, but not at the expense of giving Tidus a 3 seed. if anything, give Mario a 2 seed, Sonic a 3 seed, and Crono the 1 seed.

the Paddle vs. Paddle match is amusing, but pointless. it's kind of a waste of two spots. maybe one of the paddles vs. Tetris's L-Block, but that still kind of a waste.

Ryu vs. Ryu is hilarious. Frog is in the right place and could beat Master Chief. and Morrigan WOULD upset D.K.

South Division:

another very good division. Strider vs. Scorpion would be great to see. so would Magus vs. Snake.

but Kefka a 13 seed? boo. i doubt he could beat Zelda. a FF6 character deserves higher than that. give the spot to Shadow and swap his seeding with Gordon.

West Division:

pretty good division again. thank god that Pikachu is out. Mewtwo would do much better, but i don't think he could take Knuckles. i also like the Yoshi vs. KOS-MOS matchup. that's a tough one to call. and it's too bad you wouldn't get to see that Sephiroth vs. Aeris match because Bowser would take her down. =P

overall pretty entertaining though. ^_^

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From: torey luvullo | Posted: 6/6/2004 11:18:11 AM | Message Detail
excellent analysis and argument throughout. i'm really just posting here so that my ulti/guru sig appears here...
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From: redline15 | Posted: 6/6/2004 11:26:43 AM | Message Detail
And yes, I do realize that the seeding in Gordon vs. CATS is totally off, but who wouldn't want to see this match?

i wouldn't.
because i could see gordon winning that match with 75% of the vote.
and who wants to see gordon freeman win a match?

even i recognize some contest traditions...
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 6/6/2004 11:36:06 AM | Message Detail
North Division:

8- Dante
9- Lara Croft

If you really want this match make it a 7 vs. 10 (even though Dante deserves a 6)

6- Kirby
11- Jill Valentine

Jill is a little underseeded, but I would like to see this rematch

3- Zero
14- Tails

Zero is more like a 4 seed even though it will have a match with Mega Man, I don't think we really need to see that and raise Tails to 10/11/12

7- Gordon Freeman
10- CATS

This is a wasted match bring CATS down to 15/16 and Gordon down to 12/13

East Division:

8- Left Paddle
9- Right Paddle

Wasted match replace them with real characters

4- Sonic
13- Conker

Bring Sonic up to a 3 it shouldn't be below Tidus

6- Frog
11- Master Chief

Raise Master Chief to 7/8

South Division:

4- Zelda
13- Kefka

Lower Zelda to 5

6- Luigi
11- Wario

Good match-up, but Luigi is overseeded

West Division:

8- Yoshi
9- KOS-MOS

Raise Yoshi to 6/7

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From: Angstroms Prower | Posted: 6/6/2004 2:25:22 PM | Message Detail
I'm not keeping a good track of these stats topics, so this may have already been done before, but I computed a number of statistics regarding the predictability of all three contests, that I can post if anybody is interested. The Spring Contest is quite interesting in that it is overall much more predictable than both Summer Contests, but also has the Division 128 which by itself breaks all records of unpredictability (due to Starcraft and SSBM). I know that's nothing new, but I like to have things confirmed by hard numbers.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 6/6/2004 2:32:25 PM | Message Detail
I`m loving these sig changes. Pure genius, you guys =)

because i could see gordon winning that match with 75% of the vote.
and who wants to see gordon freeman win a match?


Best post you`ve ever made, my friend.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:16:01 PM | Message Detail
It's good to be finally back.

Phediuk, it's phenomenal how many characters you and I both put at the same spot. Sephy, Aeris, and also Bowser, Samus, and plenty more.

So Kefka couldn't beat Zelda... give me a "duh" people. Zelda is 5-seed material. Kefka would get a double-digit in a terrible division.

Oh man, did I call that couple of matches right in the Oracle Challenge. Going to give me back some credit hopefully... I hope to at least justify my runner-up spot for the Smartest User Award I got last year - the winner left the board.

I tried doing a first draft of my pseudo-SpC2K5 bracket yesterday, and it's so damn difficult. All that potential and I just can't tap into it. I'll try again today, and see if I can come up with something.

Tomorrow morning: COMPLETE EXTRAPOLATED RANKINGS. Hurray.

Oh, and I really gotta update my sig, hehe.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 105/128 --- Matches: 51/60 --- Rank: 00512/40940 --- Today's pick: CT
From: Slowflake | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:31:49 PM | Message Detail
Oh, a few other things.

A bracket based on the BOP would've had 173 points. Matches missed: Halo vs. Starcraft, Starcraft vs. KH, Starcraft vs. WW, FF10 vs. SSBM and of course Starcraft/SSBM. All in division 128... the three other divisions were so predictable the BOP was perfect in all of them. And I still managed to get four of these first round matches wrong. Hoo boy.

Characters that are stronger than their (strongest) games: Link, Sonic, Ryu, Snake, Alucard.

Characters that are weaker than their (strongest) games: Cloud, Mario, Crono, Kefka, Gordon, Tidus, Vercetti.

Unknown: Samus, Pac-Man, Master Chief, Sora.

Unknown, due to SFF in various matches, as well as the Starcraft factor. Think we should extend this to the entire Blizzard universe, if Diablo 2 and/or Warcraft 3 show up next year.

Gonna get caught up on the most recent stuff, and I'm going to attempt doing a SpC2K5 bracket again.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 105/128 --- Matches: 51/60 --- Rank: 00512/40940 --- Today's pick: CT
From: Phediuk | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:41:30 PM | Message Detail
Phediuk, it's phenomenal how many characters you and I both put at the same spot. Sephy, Aeris, and also Bowser, Samus, and plenty more.

Interesting...the only match that I blatantly copied from you was the Kirby vs. Jill Valentine rematch. After taking a look at your bracket, though, it's actually a tad creepy that the two are so similar.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:43:24 PM | Message Detail
Are you looking at the modified version, or the one from last October? Bowser was in the North in the latter. Decided to move him to the West as a tribute to the FFP people - look at his second round match.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 137/160 --- Matches: 53/62 --- Rank: 00283/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7
From: Phediuk | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:45:42 PM | Message Detail
The one from October is the one I'm talking about. I'll have to take a gander at the modified one...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
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From: armitage999 | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:48:07 PM | Message Detail
Lemme break this one down :)

North Division:

1- Cloud Strife
16- Raziel

Legacy of Kain doesn't get a ton of respect, so Raziel makes good fodder here. I think someone a lot more unknown to the general populace should be fodder for the strongest #1 seed in the contest.

8- Dante
9- Lara Croft

As Tomb Raider's popularity tumbles, so does Lara's seeding. Lara's nothing more than a #14-#16 seed now, IMO.

5- Alucard
12- Yuna

Good seed for Alucard. Yuna should be a bit higher though just because she has TJF and is a FF main character :P.

4- Squall
13- Ghaleon

Good seed for Squall. Ghaleon.. I wonder if he's got enough of a following to earn a single digit seed. I think so.

6- Kirby
11- Jill Valentine

Jill may be a little too high. Kirby as well.

3- Zero
14- Tails

Good match.

7- Gordon Freeman
10- CATS

CATS is popular, but not that popular. Gordon... no WAY!

2- Mega Man
15- Bomberman

Good seedings. Mega Man is a #2 despite getting snubbed.

East Division:

1- Mario
16- Adol Christin

- Eh, dunno if Mario's a #1 seed anymore. I consider the Square big three and Link my #1 seeds. :P Adol who? :)

8- Left Paddle
9- Right Paddle

Hee hee.. would be an awesome matchup, too bad it won't happen.

5- Ryu (SF)
12- Ryu Hayabusa

Another awesome matchup :P Ryu may be slightly overseeded despite his respectable performances the last two years. SFII isn't that popular anymore.. Ryu might be a higher seed.

4- Sonic
13- Conker

Conker.. I like the foul mouthed squirrel, but he's not in this contest. Sonic's a good #3 or #4.

6- Frog
11- Master Chief

Good match.

3- Tidus
14- Ken Masters

Ken = gone. Tidus might be a little bit lower. I consider Yuna a higher seed than Tidus to be honest.

7- Donkey Kong
10- Morrigan

both might be a bit overseeded. Morrigan was respectable in 2002, but Darkstalkers is persona non grata :P

2- Crono
15- Sam Fisher

Swap Mario with Crono. Crono's a #1 seed.

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From: Seijun | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:51:47 PM | Message Detail
I'm quite amazed, flabbergastedand surprised that Alucard is stronger than his game, considering how it's his only game. (Yes, I know about Castlevania 3 and Aria of Sorrow, but Alucard didn't play much of a role in either) oO

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From: armitage999 | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:53:32 PM | Message Detail
South Division:

1- Link
16- Duke Nukem

I consider Link the weakest #1 seed.. Duke Nukem's strong, based on Duke Nukem Forever.. oh wait.. n/m. Maybe Duke makes the contest :P If not, make a stronger #16 seed here to face Link.. I'd say Link'd win 80-20 over whoever you put here.. compared to 85-15 for the other 1/16 matchups.

8- Strider Hiryu
9- Scorpion

Scorpion's a good seed.. Strider.. hmm.. double digit seed.

5- Shadow (SA2)
12- Felix

Shadow's a little overseeded though he's put together solid performances. #7 seed maybe. Felix's good.

4- Zelda
13- Kefka

Good matchup, more like a 7-10 or 8-9 match though.

6- Luigi
11- Wario

Another good 7-10 or 8-9 match.

3- Magus
14- Fox McCloud

Good. Could Magus be a #2 seed? Dunno.

7- Auron
10- Pac-Man

I still think Pac-Man would be overseeded when the brackets come out. Good match.

2- Snake
15- Crash Bandicoot

Good.. Crash's trash. I pondered Snake as a #2 seed though.. ended up making him a #3 seed and made Aeris #2.

West Division:

1- Sephiroth
16- Ryo Hazuki

Good match.

8- Yoshi
9- KOS-MOS

Another good one.

5- Bowser
12- Viewtiful Joe

Bowser's a bit overseeded.. but should be higher than Luigi. Good seed for Joe.

4- Aeris
13- Captain Falcon

Aeris is a #3.. or maybe a #2. Falcon's good here.

6- Vercetti
11- Sora

Sora's a single digit seed.. Vercetti's good here.

3- Ganondorf
14- Eliwood

Not familiar with Eliwood.. Ganon's good here.

7- Knuckles
10- Mewtwo

Another good matchup.

2- Samus
15- Fawful

Fawful could get in as a #16.. Samus, of course, is #2.

Pretty good brackets, overall. I'm pondering posting mine, if you guys wanna see it.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:53:53 PM | Message Detail
Yo Ulti, I'm back.

Great to see you're at least getting some games. It's official, you are now the #1 contest guru. *worships*

Last year was a great read, let's see if you can top that.


From my analysis topic. I`ll throw my 'Welcome Back!!!' party here to save space.

So where did you move to? What job do you have, exactly?

And this is your LAST chance. The Starcraft Battle Chest... yay or nay?
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From: smitelf | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:56:05 PM | Message Detail
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From: smitelf | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:57:27 PM | Message Detail
Phediuk, neither Kerrigan nor HK-47 are in your bracket.

smitelf's scoring of your bracket = 0/100
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Ulti pwned me so completely in the Sp2k4 contest that I won't be able to sit for a week.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:58:05 PM | Message Detail
If we`re doing pseudo brackets, then have fun with mine:

Pseudo Bracket for the Summer 2004 Contest

North

/(1)CATS
\(16)Cloud
/(8)Scorpion
\(9)Sub Zero
/(5)Zero
\(12)Ramza Beoulve
/(4)Bowser
\(13)Riku
/(6)Kirby
\(11)Crash Bandicoot
/(3)Zelda
\(14)Pikachu
/(7)Pac-Man
\(10)Wario
/(2)Sephiroth
\(15)Ness

East

/(1)Link
\(16)Laharl
/(8)Tommy Vercetti
\(9)Donkey Kong
/(5)Tidus
\(12)Auron
/(4)Ganondorf
\(13)Mewtwo
/(6)Yuna
\(11)Bomberman
/(3)Frog
\(14)Kerrigan
/(7)KOS-MOS
\(10)Jill Valentine
/(2)Magus
\(15)Fei Fong Wong

South

/(1)Mega Man
\(16)Luca Blight
/(8)Miles 'Tails' Prower
\(9)Fox McCloud
/(5)Ryu
\(12)Ken Masters
/(4)Aeris
\(13)Geno
/(6)Yoshi
\(11)Sora
/(3)Sonic the Hedgehog
\(14)Nightmare
/(7)Master Chief
\(10)Dante
/(2)Samus
\(15)Ridley

West

/(1)Mario
\(16)Duke Nukem
/(8)Knuckles the Echidna
\(9)Shadow the Hedgehog
/(5)Alucard
\(12)Simon Belmont
/(4)Squall
\(13)Max Mayne
/(6)Luigi
\(11)Raiden
/(3)Solid Snake
\(14)Liquid Snake
/(7)Kefka
\(10)Lara Croft
/(2)Crono
\(15)Gordon Freeman

Out:
Aiai
Felix
Isaac
Sam Fisher
Ratchet
Conker
Tom Nook
Mr. Resetti
Raziel
Captain Olimar
Ryp Hazuki
Vyse
Kite

In:
Frog
Ridley
Geno
Luca Blight
Liquid Snake
Fei Fong Wong
Sub Zero
Mewtwo
Kerrigan
Riku
Nightmare
Laharl
Simon Belmont

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I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: armitage999 | Posted: 6/6/2004 3:59:09 PM | Message Detail
I put Kerrigan in mine!

I didn't put HK-47 though, never played the game :(
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From: emeraldweapon | Posted: 6/6/2004 4:00:35 PM | Message Detail
You want a 16-seed to win the contest?
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Spring 2004 - 116/160 points.
Don't you know that light is just the absence of darkness?
From: Phediuk | Posted: 6/6/2004 4:03:43 PM | Message Detail
Phediuk, neither Kerrigan nor HK-47 are in your bracket.

If ever I do a modified version of the bracket, I'll take out the Pong paddles and pit Kerrigan and HK against each other. I'd be quite interested in seeing how such a match would turn out, actually...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: armitage999 | Posted: 6/6/2004 4:04:07 PM | Message Detail
North

/(1)CATS
\(16)Cloud

Too bad this'd never happen :). CATS being #1 would be awesome though.

/(8)Scorpion
\(9)Sub Zero

Excellent matchup.. I'd say a 6-11 match though. Scorpion did have that amazing run two years ago :P

/(5)Zero
\(12)Ramza Beoulve

Good match. Zero can be anywhere from 3-6 but 5 is good enough here.

/(4)Bowser
\(13)Riku

Good 6-11 or 7-10 match. Riku's too cute and has a bit too much TJF to be that low :P

/(6)Kirby
\(11)Crash Bandicoot

Crash's trash! #15 or #16 seed!

/(3)Zelda
\(14)Pikachu

Zelda's slightly overseeded. Pikachu's good where he is.

/(7)Pac-Man
\(10)Wario

Pretty good.

/(2)Sephiroth
\(15)Ness

Pretty good.

East

/(1)Link
\(16)Laharl

Third one in a row I can't disagree with.

/(8)Tommy Vercetti
\(9)Donkey Kong

Tommy'll be slightly higher. DK's good at #9

/(5)Tidus
\(12)Auron

Tidus's good.. Auron's a 7-9 seed.

/(4)Ganondorf
\(13)Mewtwo

Too low for Mewtwo, maybe #10 or #11 seed as an upset special.

/(6)Yuna
\(11)Bomberman

Yuna's anywhere from 4-7, so that's good. Bomberman might be too high, if in the contest at all.

/(3)Frog
\(14)Kerrigan

Mass Carriers give Kerrigan at least a single digit seed. Frog's a good choice but I'd rather make him a #6 seed.

/(7)KOS-MOS
\(10)Jill Valentine

Pretty good.

/(2)Magus
\(15)Fei Fong Wong

Fei'll be higher... anywhere from a 7-10 seed IMO.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 6/6/2004 4:06:20 PM | Message Detail
Starcraft Battle Chest... NO. I'll order it from Blizzard if I have to, but I'm not sponging off your prize.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 137/160 --- Matches: 53/62 --- Rank: 00283/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7
From: armitage999 | Posted: 6/6/2004 4:09:05 PM | Message Detail
South

/(1)Mega Man
\(16)Luca Blight

Oops, made a mistake in my last post. I think Sephiroth's a #1. Megaman is an excellent #2 seed.

/(8)Miles 'Tails' Prower
\(9)Fox McCloud

Both are a little high.

/(5)Ryu
\(12)Ken Masters

Ryu's okay(got his as a #7 seed in mine though), Ken's too high and may not make the contest.

/(4)Aeris
\(13)Geno

Geno's good. Aeris should be a #3 or maybe a #2.

/(6)Yoshi
\(11)Sora

Pretty good.

/(3)Sonic the Hedgehog
\(14)Nightmare

Pretty good.

/(7)Master Chief
\(10)Dante

Pretty good. Put Mewtwo here though for upset special :D.

/(2)Samus
\(15)Ridley

Pretty good Metroid based match.

West

/(1)Mario
\(16)Duke Nukem

Switch Mario and Crono. Duke's good here.

/(8)Knuckles the Echidna
\(9)Shadow the Hedgehog

Good match, maybe switch seeds.

/(5)Alucard
\(12)Simon Belmont

Good Castlevania based match.

/(4)Squall
\(13)Max Mayne

Good.

/(6)Luigi
\(11)Raiden

Both are a little too high seeded.

/(3)Solid Snake
\(14)Liquid Snake

Good

/(7)Kefka
\(10)Lara Croft

Lara's a #15 or #16 seed now :P

/(2)Crono
\(15)Gordon Freeman

See Mario/Duke match

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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 6/6/2004 4:09:13 PM | Message Detail
Characters that are stronger than their (strongest) games: Link, Sonic, Ryu, Snake, Alucard.

In the case of Ryu, that just looks VERY wrong. Simply because fighting games don't generally have main characters. What I mean is that it's very difficult for someone to say that they hate Sonic, Mario, or Link, yet they like their games because you're, for the most part, forced to play with that character. Yet it is very possibly for someone to hate Ryu & Ken, but love Street Fighter. Just throwing in two cents.

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