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Contest Stats & Discussion - Part 21
From: RamzaB
| Posted: 6/7/2004 12:17:51 AM | Message Detail
177 and 43rd on the leaderboard. Not bad for a firstimer.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?
Proud warrior of THE LUCA BLIGHT ARMY
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?
Proud warrior of THE LUCA BLIGHT ARMY
From: Team Rocket Elite
| Posted: 6/7/2004 12:21:44 AM | Message Detail
Ouch, dead last. If only Lttp pulled through against Chrono Trigger. Anyways...
Congratulations UltimaterializerX! Thought of what your 5/10 free games are going to be?
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*UltimaterializerX is my God!*
I'll think of something better later...
Congratulations UltimaterializerX! Thought of what your 5/10 free games are going to be?
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*UltimaterializerX is my God!*
I'll think of something better later...
From: Sephirot1 Returns
| Posted: 6/7/2004 1:49:32 AM | Message Detail
Congratulations s to Ulti!
Congratulations to all the Gurus for our 40+ point average with GameFAQS!
And new sig!
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One of the 31 persons officially PWN'D by Ulti in the Guru contest.
Congratulations to all the Gurus for our 40+ point average with GameFAQS!
And new sig!
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One of the 31 persons officially PWN'D by Ulti in the Guru contest.
From: jonthomson
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:32:03 AM | Message Detail
Less than 40% of the brackets had FF7 winning the whole thing. Wow, just wow.
Has been a good tournament I think. Bring on the summer contest.
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Jon Thomson - final score : 138/192
Has been a good tournament I think. Bring on the summer contest.
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Jon Thomson - final score : 138/192
From: creativename
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:34:43 AM | Message Detail
I have put the Extrapolated Standings for the Spring Contest on my site.
http://www.sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated.htm
I'll copy my SFF-adjusted standings into this thread:
http://www.sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm
To get these adjustments, I increased the following games by 60%:
Metroid
Donkey Kong
Super Metroid
Mario 64
And I also increased The Legend of Zelda by 7.5%. Adjustments to these games trickled down to other games.
I might have forgotten some games to adjust, let me know if I did. Other possibilities for SFF adjustments were Sonic 2 (possible 16-bit company mascot platformer SFF? would be odd in a Nintendo vs. Sega match, but maybe), Shining Force (Genesis SFF vs. Sonic 2) and Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.
If anyone has any comments on the amounts I should adjust for SFF by let me know. The 60% is just a simple guesstimate that is, needless to say, unlikely to be very accurate. I picked it because DK jumped by about 87%, and that might be a rough proxy for Nintendo SFF, though it is probably on the high end of reasonable estimates.
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UltimaterializerX is First among contest analysts
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
http://www.sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated.htm
I'll copy my SFF-adjusted standings into this thread:
http://www.sc2k4.com/excel/spc2k4_extrapolated_sff.htm
To get these adjustments, I increased the following games by 60%:
Metroid
Donkey Kong
Super Metroid
Mario 64
And I also increased The Legend of Zelda by 7.5%. Adjustments to these games trickled down to other games.
I might have forgotten some games to adjust, let me know if I did. Other possibilities for SFF adjustments were Sonic 2 (possible 16-bit company mascot platformer SFF? would be odd in a Nintendo vs. Sega match, but maybe), Shining Force (Genesis SFF vs. Sonic 2) and Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.
If anyone has any comments on the amounts I should adjust for SFF by let me know. The 60% is just a simple guesstimate that is, needless to say, unlikely to be very accurate. I picked it because DK jumped by about 87%, and that might be a rough proxy for Nintendo SFF, though it is probably on the high end of reasonable estimates.
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UltimaterializerX is First among contest analysts
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
From: creativename
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:35:01 AM | Message Detail
Same Fanbase Factor Adjusted Extrapolated Standings for the Spring 2004 Contest:
(Rank || Game || Expected % against Final Fantasy VII)
1 || Final Fantasy VII || 50%
2 || Ocarina of Time || 46.18%
3 || Chrono Trigger || 41.76%
4 || A Link to the Past || 41.61%
5 || Super Mario Bros. 3 || 39.9%
6 || Final Fantasy III (VI) || 39.4%
7 || Super Smash Bros. Melee || 37.57%
8 || Starcraft || 37.36%
9 || The Wind Waker || 37.29%
10 || Halo || 37.24%
11 || The Legend of Zelda || 37.08%
12 || Final Fantasy X || 36.86%
13 || Super Mario 64 || 35.08%
14 || Grand Theft Auto: Vice City || 34.91%
15 || Kingdom Hearts || 34.7%
16 || Super Metroid || 34.61%
17 || Soul Calibur || 34.28%
18 || Super Mario World || 34.24%
19 || Metroid Prime || 33.4%
20 || Metal Gear Solid 2 || 32.52%
21 || Final Fantasy || 32.24%
22 || Half-Life || 29.28%
23 || Metal Gear Solid || 28.7%
24 || Final Fantasy Tactics || 28.68%
25 || Metroid || 28.04%
26 || Knights of the Old Republic || 27.71%
27 || Super Mario RPG || 27.51%
28 || Goldeneye || 24.89%
29 || Final Fantasy Tactics Advance || 24.67%
30 || Street Fighter II || 24.08%
31 || Doom || 21.49%
32 || Mortal Kombat || 21.21%
33 || Castlevania: Symphony of the Night || 20.27%
34 || Sonic the Hedgehog 2 || 20.15%
35 || Xenogears || 19.97%
36 || Contra || 19.31%
37 || Perfect Dark || 18.98%
38 || Skies of Arcadia || 18.86%
39 || Tetris || 18.86%
40 || Shenmue || 18.82%
41 || Earthbound || 18.47%
42 || Pac-Man || 17.66%
43 || Secret of Mana || 17.21%
44 || Resident Evil || 16.86%
45 || Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal || 16.8%
46 || Fire Emblem || 16.59%
47 || Donkey Kong || 15.38%
48 || Duck Hunt || 15.36%
49 || Phantasy Star || 15.06%
50 || Suikoden II || 14.37%
51 || Metal Gear || 14.13%
52 || Dance Dance Revolution || 13.75%
53 || The Simpsons || 12.69%
54 || Fallout 2 || 12.64%
55 || Phantasy Star IV || 11.57%
56 || NiGHTS into dreams... || 10.64%
57 || Pong || 10.01%
58 || Panzer Dragoon Saga || 9.55%
59 || Galaga || 8.2%
60 || Pitfall || 7.98%
61 || Shining Force || 7.78%
62 || Gunstar Heroes || 7.37%
63 || River City Ransom || 6.4%
64 || Adventure || 3.56%
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UltimaterializerX is First among contest analysts
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
(Rank || Game || Expected % against Final Fantasy VII)
1 || Final Fantasy VII || 50%
2 || Ocarina of Time || 46.18%
3 || Chrono Trigger || 41.76%
4 || A Link to the Past || 41.61%
5 || Super Mario Bros. 3 || 39.9%
6 || Final Fantasy III (VI) || 39.4%
7 || Super Smash Bros. Melee || 37.57%
8 || Starcraft || 37.36%
9 || The Wind Waker || 37.29%
10 || Halo || 37.24%
11 || The Legend of Zelda || 37.08%
12 || Final Fantasy X || 36.86%
13 || Super Mario 64 || 35.08%
14 || Grand Theft Auto: Vice City || 34.91%
15 || Kingdom Hearts || 34.7%
16 || Super Metroid || 34.61%
17 || Soul Calibur || 34.28%
18 || Super Mario World || 34.24%
19 || Metroid Prime || 33.4%
20 || Metal Gear Solid 2 || 32.52%
21 || Final Fantasy || 32.24%
22 || Half-Life || 29.28%
23 || Metal Gear Solid || 28.7%
24 || Final Fantasy Tactics || 28.68%
25 || Metroid || 28.04%
26 || Knights of the Old Republic || 27.71%
27 || Super Mario RPG || 27.51%
28 || Goldeneye || 24.89%
29 || Final Fantasy Tactics Advance || 24.67%
30 || Street Fighter II || 24.08%
31 || Doom || 21.49%
32 || Mortal Kombat || 21.21%
33 || Castlevania: Symphony of the Night || 20.27%
34 || Sonic the Hedgehog 2 || 20.15%
35 || Xenogears || 19.97%
36 || Contra || 19.31%
37 || Perfect Dark || 18.98%
38 || Skies of Arcadia || 18.86%
39 || Tetris || 18.86%
40 || Shenmue || 18.82%
41 || Earthbound || 18.47%
42 || Pac-Man || 17.66%
43 || Secret of Mana || 17.21%
44 || Resident Evil || 16.86%
45 || Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal || 16.8%
46 || Fire Emblem || 16.59%
47 || Donkey Kong || 15.38%
48 || Duck Hunt || 15.36%
49 || Phantasy Star || 15.06%
50 || Suikoden II || 14.37%
51 || Metal Gear || 14.13%
52 || Dance Dance Revolution || 13.75%
53 || The Simpsons || 12.69%
54 || Fallout 2 || 12.64%
55 || Phantasy Star IV || 11.57%
56 || NiGHTS into dreams... || 10.64%
57 || Pong || 10.01%
58 || Panzer Dragoon Saga || 9.55%
59 || Galaga || 8.2%
60 || Pitfall || 7.98%
61 || Shining Force || 7.78%
62 || Gunstar Heroes || 7.37%
63 || River City Ransom || 6.4%
64 || Adventure || 3.56%
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UltimaterializerX is First among contest analysts
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
From: creativename
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:40:13 AM | Message Detail
I separated the games in that post loosely by tiers, mostly just defined by wherever there was a jump in gaps.
And of course, Congratulations!! to UltimaterializerX for his 1st or 2nd place finish in the contest (I guess we don't know yet). Ulti, let me know if my sig is alright, I have no problem changing it to whatever.
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UltimaterializerX is First among contest analysts
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
And of course, Congratulations!! to UltimaterializerX for his 1st or 2nd place finish in the contest (I guess we don't know yet). Ulti, let me know if my sig is alright, I have no problem changing it to whatever.
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UltimaterializerX is First among contest analysts
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
From: Tarrot
| Posted: 6/7/2004 3:15:56 AM | Message Detail
Less than 40% of the brackets had FF7 winning the whole thing. Wow, just wow.
Has been a good tournament I think. Bring on the summer contest.
The fact that so many had it winning shows it's power. There are 63 other possible winners, and this pulled in a little under 40%. It was predestined to win, and only some of us had hope another game could knock it off.
Has been a good tournament I think. Bring on the summer contest.
The fact that so many had it winning shows it's power. There are 63 other possible winners, and this pulled in a little under 40%. It was predestined to win, and only some of us had hope another game could knock it off.
From: creativename
| Posted: 6/7/2004 4:06:39 AM | Message Detail
I've also put up a graph of the Spring score distributions:
http://www.sc2k4.com/score_distributions.php
The distribution is bimodal, probably indicating a divergence between Final Fantasy VII winning and non-Final Fantasy VII winning brackets.
And, as always, you can find sortable tables with things like the average Oracle prediction here:
http://www.sc2k4.com/displaytable.php
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UltimaterializerX is First among contest analysts
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
http://www.sc2k4.com/score_distributions.php
The distribution is bimodal, probably indicating a divergence between Final Fantasy VII winning and non-Final Fantasy VII winning brackets.
And, as always, you can find sortable tables with things like the average Oracle prediction here:
http://www.sc2k4.com/displaytable.php
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UltimaterializerX is First among contest analysts
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
From: ScorpioVS
| Posted: 6/7/2004 4:11:28 AM | Message Detail
Almost a 500 topic!!
Yay! Go, go, go!!
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"Fail to live up to your potential, and you will never win..." - Gaspar (Chrono Trigger)
Yay! Go, go, go!!
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"Fail to live up to your potential, and you will never win..." - Gaspar (Chrono Trigger)
From: Xuxon
| Posted: 6/7/2004 4:17:33 AM | Message Detail
Awesome job, Ulti. I can only take consolation in the fact that I did slightly better than the others who had CT winning.
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Final Score: 139/192
I was PWNED by UltimaterializerX in the guru challenge
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Final Score: 139/192
I was PWNED by UltimaterializerX in the guru challenge
From: Angstroms Prower
| Posted: 6/7/2004 4:20:42 AM | Message Detail
http://www.sc2k4.com/score_distributions.php
The distribution is bimodal, probably indicating a divergence between Final Fantasy VII winning and non-Final Fantasy VII winning brackets.
Interesting. With my 106 bracket, even though I had Ocarina of Time winning, I am still in the bottom of the FF7 group. ^^
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Hard work may not kill you, but why take chances?
Aeowyn is my God - Heroic Tails here
The distribution is bimodal, probably indicating a divergence between Final Fantasy VII winning and non-Final Fantasy VII winning brackets.
Interesting. With my 106 bracket, even though I had Ocarina of Time winning, I am still in the bottom of the FF7 group. ^^
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Hard work may not kill you, but why take chances?
Aeowyn is my God - Heroic Tails here
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 4:36:09 AM | Message Detail
I am personally shocked that TRE actually changed his sig. I thought
you`d never do it, but thanks for being a good sport. God knows I`d
have no issues at all doing the same for you.
Come to think of it, I`d like to thank everyone for being good sports about the whole thing. But it`ll all be over for you two weeks after the initial chance, just in time to post your Summer Contest stats in your sigs. We doing this again for the next contest?
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
Come to think of it, I`d like to thank everyone for being good sports about the whole thing. But it`ll all be over for you two weeks after the initial chance, just in time to post your Summer Contest stats in your sigs. We doing this again for the next contest?
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: Sephirot1 Returns
| Posted: 6/7/2004 4:38:55 AM | Message Detail
We doing this again for the next contest?
I hope so but this time there will be ties for perfect scores.
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One of the 30 persons officially PWN'D by Ulti in the Guru contest.
I hope so but this time there will be ties for perfect scores.
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One of the 30 persons officially PWN'D by Ulti in the Guru contest.
From: torey luvullo
| Posted: 6/7/2004 4:41:11 AM | Message Detail
my mid-pack finish was quite deceptive. i spent most of the contest
trying to avoid last place. only by playing it safe and choosing ff7 to
win was i able to gain 48 late points, and "pass tiring horses".
live and learn, and now we move on to the better of the gf contests - the character contest. god i hope they don't screw it up...
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UltimaterializerX, the most godly of prognosticators, has won the most rare of prizes - being in my first sig.
live and learn, and now we move on to the better of the gf contests - the character contest. god i hope they don't screw it up...
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UltimaterializerX, the most godly of prognosticators, has won the most rare of prizes - being in my first sig.
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 6/7/2004 5:46:38 AM | Message Detail
So much for the "the favorite never won" idea. Why do I get the feeling
that if Cloud repeats this summer, we'll never have any of these
contests again?
So, MGS2 is stronger than MGS. Who woulda thought? And to think, Super Luigi laughed at me for thinking SSBM had a shot at MGS. Then again, I never took the guy seriously. And then again... again, I've been laughed at for thinking SMW would get 40% on CT...
A thought. If FF7 was almost as much of a favorite as Link was last year, can we expect over half of the brackets to pick Cloud this summer?
An interesting tidbit: the ten most costly eliminations in terms of BOP point value.
1. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Division finals, to Final Fantasy 7) - 1584
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 (Semifinals, to Chrono Trigger) - 656
3. Final Fantasy 10 (Round 3, to Super Smash Bros. Melee) - 564
4. Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Round 3, to Starcraft) - 392
5. Final Fantasy 6 (Round 3, to Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past) - 320
6. Chrono Trigger (Finals, to Final Fantasy 7) - 288
7. Metroid Prime (Round 2, to Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker) - 262
8. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (Division finals, to Chrono Trigger) - 216
9. Kingdom Hearts (Round 2, to Starcraft) - 198
10. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (Round 2, to Super Smash Bros. Melee) - 140
The top first round match ranks 11th at 127 and, you guessed it, it was Halo's.
Finally, the average of all the brackets that entered the BOP was 135 points.
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SpC2K4 Status (FINAL) --- Points: 169/192 --- Matches: 54/63 --- Rank: 00232/40940
So, MGS2 is stronger than MGS. Who woulda thought? And to think, Super Luigi laughed at me for thinking SSBM had a shot at MGS. Then again, I never took the guy seriously. And then again... again, I've been laughed at for thinking SMW would get 40% on CT...
A thought. If FF7 was almost as much of a favorite as Link was last year, can we expect over half of the brackets to pick Cloud this summer?
An interesting tidbit: the ten most costly eliminations in terms of BOP point value.
1. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Division finals, to Final Fantasy 7) - 1584
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 (Semifinals, to Chrono Trigger) - 656
3. Final Fantasy 10 (Round 3, to Super Smash Bros. Melee) - 564
4. Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Round 3, to Starcraft) - 392
5. Final Fantasy 6 (Round 3, to Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past) - 320
6. Chrono Trigger (Finals, to Final Fantasy 7) - 288
7. Metroid Prime (Round 2, to Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker) - 262
8. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (Division finals, to Chrono Trigger) - 216
9. Kingdom Hearts (Round 2, to Starcraft) - 198
10. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (Round 2, to Super Smash Bros. Melee) - 140
The top first round match ranks 11th at 127 and, you guessed it, it was Halo's.
Finally, the average of all the brackets that entered the BOP was 135 points.
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SpC2K4 Status (FINAL) --- Points: 169/192 --- Matches: 54/63 --- Rank: 00232/40940
From: Mac Arrowny
| Posted: 6/7/2004 6:33:00 AM | Message Detail
Wow, it turns out that Bracket 128 really was strong...10 out of the
top 20 games is really amazing, and that gets bumped up to 11 without
the SFF adjustments. I suppose that being the newest bracket is a big
help.
From: steve illumina
| Posted: 6/7/2004 6:42:17 AM | Message Detail
Here is my psuedo bracket, revised and updated!
A balanced, fair, interesting bracket which would bring in a lot of new, throw out a lot of old, and not be easy to earn a perfect on! This is the formula I feel a bracket should follow!
Feel free to comment, or rip it to shreds! :)
NORTH
1. Cloud Strife, FF7
16. Death (Castlevania Series)
8. Donkey Kong
9. Seifer
5. Shadow the Hedgehog
12. Geno
4. Zero
13. Ramza
6. Luigi Mario
11. Miles 'Tails' Prowler
3. Magus
14. Cervantes de Leon (Soul Calibur Series)
7. Yoshi
10. Wario
2. Solid Snake
15. Kefka Palazzo
EAST
1. Sephiroth
16. Blinx the Cat
8. Sora
9. Pac-Man
5. Kirby
12. Max Payne
4. Squall Leonhart
13. Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal Series)
6. Tommy Vercetti
11. Scorpion
3. Aeris Gainsborough
14. Pikachu
7. Knuckles the Echidna
10. Morrigan (Darkstalkers Series)
2. Samus Aran
15. Maximo
SOUTH
1. Link
16. Lara Croft
8. Yuna
9. Vivi
5. Ryu
12. Dr. Wily
4. Ganondorf Dragmire
13. Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
6. Princess Zelda
11. Viewtiful Joe
3. Frog
14. Ken Masters
7. KOS-MOS
10. Dante
2. Crono
15. Sam Fisher
WEST
1. Mario
16. Rayne (BloodRayne)
8. Aaron
9. Sigma (Mega Man X Series)
5. Alucard
12. Ghaleon
4. Bowser
13. Ness
6. Master Chief
11. Fox McCloud
3. Sonic the Hedgehog
14. Kerrigan (StarCraft)
7. Tidus
10. Vyse
2. Mega Man
15. Heihachi (Tekken Series)
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SCK24: 164/192, User Tourney V: Rank 32!
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
A balanced, fair, interesting bracket which would bring in a lot of new, throw out a lot of old, and not be easy to earn a perfect on! This is the formula I feel a bracket should follow!
Feel free to comment, or rip it to shreds! :)
NORTH
1. Cloud Strife, FF7
16. Death (Castlevania Series)
8. Donkey Kong
9. Seifer
5. Shadow the Hedgehog
12. Geno
4. Zero
13. Ramza
6. Luigi Mario
11. Miles 'Tails' Prowler
3. Magus
14. Cervantes de Leon (Soul Calibur Series)
7. Yoshi
10. Wario
2. Solid Snake
15. Kefka Palazzo
EAST
1. Sephiroth
16. Blinx the Cat
8. Sora
9. Pac-Man
5. Kirby
12. Max Payne
4. Squall Leonhart
13. Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal Series)
6. Tommy Vercetti
11. Scorpion
3. Aeris Gainsborough
14. Pikachu
7. Knuckles the Echidna
10. Morrigan (Darkstalkers Series)
2. Samus Aran
15. Maximo
SOUTH
1. Link
16. Lara Croft
8. Yuna
9. Vivi
5. Ryu
12. Dr. Wily
4. Ganondorf Dragmire
13. Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
6. Princess Zelda
11. Viewtiful Joe
3. Frog
14. Ken Masters
7. KOS-MOS
10. Dante
2. Crono
15. Sam Fisher
WEST
1. Mario
16. Rayne (BloodRayne)
8. Aaron
9. Sigma (Mega Man X Series)
5. Alucard
12. Ghaleon
4. Bowser
13. Ness
6. Master Chief
11. Fox McCloud
3. Sonic the Hedgehog
14. Kerrigan (StarCraft)
7. Tidus
10. Vyse
2. Mega Man
15. Heihachi (Tekken Series)
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SCK24: 164/192, User Tourney V: Rank 32!
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 6/7/2004 6:52:05 AM | Message Detail
NORTH
6. Luigi Mario
11. Miles 'Tails' Prowler
Lower Lugi to 8
EAST
8. Sora
9. Pac-Man
Lower Pac-Man to 11/12 and Lower Sora to 11
3. Aeris Gainsborough
14. Pikachu
Lower Aeris to 4
SOUTH
4. Ganondorf Dragmire
13. Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Raise Ganondorf to 3
6. Princess Zelda
11. Viewtiful Joe
Raise Zelda to 5
3. Frog
14. Ken Masters
Lower Frog to 4/5
7. KOS-MOS
10. Dante
If you really want this match switch the seeds
WEST
6. Master Chief
11. Fox McCloud
Lower Mater Chief to 7/8
3. Sonic the Hedgehog
14. Kerrigan (StarCraft)
Raise Kerrigan to 12
7. Tidus
10. Vyse
Raise Tidus to 3 Lower Vyse to 12/13
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 149/192 congratulates Ulti, winner of the Guru Bracket Challenge!
6. Luigi Mario
11. Miles 'Tails' Prowler
Lower Lugi to 8
EAST
8. Sora
9. Pac-Man
Lower Pac-Man to 11/12 and Lower Sora to 11
3. Aeris Gainsborough
14. Pikachu
Lower Aeris to 4
SOUTH
4. Ganondorf Dragmire
13. Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Raise Ganondorf to 3
6. Princess Zelda
11. Viewtiful Joe
Raise Zelda to 5
3. Frog
14. Ken Masters
Lower Frog to 4/5
7. KOS-MOS
10. Dante
If you really want this match switch the seeds
WEST
6. Master Chief
11. Fox McCloud
Lower Mater Chief to 7/8
3. Sonic the Hedgehog
14. Kerrigan (StarCraft)
Raise Kerrigan to 12
7. Tidus
10. Vyse
Raise Tidus to 3 Lower Vyse to 12/13
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 149/192 congratulates Ulti, winner of the Guru Bracket Challenge!
From: smitelf
| Posted: 6/7/2004 6:54:43 AM | Message Detail
Oh, Chichiri, I wish I could believe that Auron could beat Tidus (he
deserves it, after all) but it's tough for a supporting character to
beat the lead in a Final Fantasy game, no matter how much the lead
sucks.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Ulti pwned me so completely in the Sp2k4 contest that I won't be able to sit for a week.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Ulti pwned me so completely in the Sp2k4 contest that I won't be able to sit for a week.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 7:05:55 AM | Message Detail
So, MGS2 is stronger than MGS. Who woulda thought?
[Insert comment about Ulti owning your soul]
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
[Insert comment about Ulti owning your soul]
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 6/7/2004 7:12:24 AM | Message Detail
Well, you do in a way, hehe. Look at the leaderboard!
I think it was bound to happen though. As the contests pass, it's only normal to see the gurus doing better and better every time. Unless there's a surprise winner... ;)
I LOVE how CJayC slams the board on the front page... it's not like he's even being subtle, even if he doesn't mention us.
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I think it was bound to happen though. As the contests pass, it's only normal to see the gurus doing better and better every time. Unless there's a surprise winner... ;)
I LOVE how CJayC slams the board on the front page... it's not like he's even being subtle, even if he doesn't mention us.
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SpC2K4 Status (FINAL) --- Points: 169/192 --- Matches: 54/63 --- Rank: 00232/40940
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 7:14:31 AM | Message Detail
How is he slamming us? I thought it was pretty funny myself.
And you didn`t answer me. You have one final chance to tell me whether or not you want the Battle Chest, Slowflake =) I`m going to bed, so give it some serious thought. See you when I get back.
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And you didn`t answer me. You have one final chance to tell me whether or not you want the Battle Chest, Slowflake =) I`m going to bed, so give it some serious thought. See you when I get back.
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 6/7/2004 7:16:22 AM | Message Detail
I'll refer you to post 398 for that one.
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SpC2K4 Status (FINAL) --- Points: 169/192 --- Matches: 54/63 --- Rank: 00232/40940
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 7:18:38 AM | Message Detail
Post #398:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=14375688&message=150808033
Now I`m only seeing a bracket here. Did you mean post 397 where you said no, but I missed it? It`s all good, though. On a related note, have you been able to find it anywhere?
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=14375688&message=150808033
Now I`m only seeing a bracket here. Did you mean post 397 where you said no, but I missed it? It`s all good, though. On a related note, have you been able to find it anywhere?
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 7:19:37 AM | Message Detail
Actually, that link is post 399.
Ooooook, I need sleep. <3, Slowflake. You were sorely missed by me those couple of days you were gone.
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Ooooook, I need sleep. <3, Slowflake. You were sorely missed by me those couple of days you were gone.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 6/7/2004 7:35:07 AM | Message Detail
Auron can beat Tidus though. There's reason to believe he suffered from
slight SFF, and they are almost on the same level without that
assumption. It'd be a close match if it followed the numbers, close
enough for Auron to have a chance at winning.
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I stand second only to the one and only Lord of Gurus, UltimaterializerX who bested me by no less than 11 points!
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 6/7/2004 7:39:41 AM | Message Detail
Auron can beat Tidus though.
I don't think so Tidus is ranked 12th from last year while Auron is ranked 18th even if we take SFF into account Tidus will still be most likely to win beause he'll win with SFF
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My Score 149/192 congratulates Ulti, winner of the Guru Bracket Challenge!
I don't think so Tidus is ranked 12th from last year while Auron is ranked 18th even if we take SFF into account Tidus will still be most likely to win beause he'll win with SFF
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My Score 149/192 congratulates Ulti, winner of the Guru Bracket Challenge!
From: andaca
| Posted: 6/7/2004 8:30:39 AM | Message Detail
Hmm....the extrapolated standings are interesting....as they stand,
(messed up by starcraft thought they may be) half of the top 16 games
are in the 128 divison. I sure didnt see that one coming.
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120 pts.
CT vs FF7(OoT)
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120 pts.
CT vs FF7(OoT)
From: SirShake
| Posted: 6/7/2004 8:44:45 AM | Message Detail
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 6/7/2004 12:36:56 AM | Message Detail
Ahh, Guru standings...
Didn't this originaly start as a bet between me and Shake in the midst of the off-season though? *ponders*
1st UltimaterializerX 185
2nd ChichiriMuyo 174
3rd Shake 171
...
You....slimy.....damn...phsaw....blargh.
*looks down at his feet and advances upon Chi-Chi*
Mumbles something about 'congratulations'*
=(
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Ahh, Guru standings...
Didn't this originaly start as a bet between me and Shake in the midst of the off-season though? *ponders*
1st UltimaterializerX 185
2nd ChichiriMuyo 174
3rd Shake 171
...
You....slimy.....damn...phsaw....blargh.
*looks down at his feet and advances upon Chi-Chi*
Mumbles something about 'congratulations'*
=(
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From: Z1mZum
| Posted: 6/7/2004 10:08:24 AM | Message Detail
I tied with Heroic Mario in the guru rankings. I think he copied off of my bracket.
;P
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 6/7/2004 10:19:48 AM | Message Detail
I'm surprised it got second to no attention here... but I have a big money question for all takers.
How in the world could CT stand strong against FF7 for AN ENTIRE HOUR? I mean, CATS could only hold Cloud for a minute, Luigi lasted ten minutes against Squall... but an hour?!?
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How in the world could CT stand strong against FF7 for AN ENTIRE HOUR? I mean, CATS could only hold Cloud for a minute, Luigi lasted ten minutes against Squall... but an hour?!?
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From: Z1mZum
| Posted: 6/7/2004 10:24:39 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, I voted probably 30 minutes in and saw CT with a lead of about
100 votes. I thought I was delirious or just really tired or something.
Hopefully the boards were really excited for a little while about the finals, if only for an hour.
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Hopefully the boards were really excited for a little while about the finals, if only for an hour.
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From: LordOfDabu
| Posted: 6/7/2004 10:25:13 AM | Message Detail
Maybe because the people who vote in the first hour have good taste. ;)
LordOfDabu
A legend beyond all ages.
LordOfDabu
A legend beyond all ages.
From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 6/7/2004 10:48:23 AM | Message Detail
Gah, I wish I had seen CT in the lead, it would have made my day. CT's
much stronger than CATS or Luigi, and has the kind of hard core fanbase
that would vote immediately.
Not that CATS doesn't have a hard core fanbase, just that there aren't more than 6 of them. ;)
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RPGs beaten: 54 and counting
Not that CATS doesn't have a hard core fanbase, just that there aren't more than 6 of them. ;)
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Final SpC2k3 Score: 163 (It's all Starcraft's fault)
RPGs beaten: 54 and counting
From: Haste2
| Posted: 6/7/2004 11:45:12 AM | Message Detail
Hm, this may sound strange, but I think Tidus did better than Auron
because he is the #1 representative for FFX, while Auron is just a
likeable character. In otherwords, when they vote for Auron, they vote
for Auron, and when they vote for Tidus, they vote for FFX.
So...if Auron vs. Tidus occured, Auron may be able to defeat Tidus, as Auron is from the same game as FFX, so people will only vote for the better character...
Finally, here are the top 16 games in terms of total votes:
1. Final Fantasy VII (371,448)
2. Chrono Trigger (306,889)
3. Super Mario Bros. 3 (254,499)
4. The Legend of Zelda (243,018)
5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (243,108)
6. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (231,863)
7. Super Smash Bros. Melee (203,059)
8. Starcraft (187,357)
9. Final Fantasy (172,646)
10. Final Fantasy VI (162,696)
11. Super Mario World (162,462)
12. Final Fantasy X (141,312)
13. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (134,762)
14. Tetris (133,648)
15. Goldeneye (125,062)
16. Metal Gear Solid (115,959)
No types there. Honest. Also, no Round 2 losers managed to make the list. (FFT is ranked #17, and Sonic 2 is #18) Look, Final Fantasy gets overrated yet AGAIN.
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So...if Auron vs. Tidus occured, Auron may be able to defeat Tidus, as Auron is from the same game as FFX, so people will only vote for the better character...
Finally, here are the top 16 games in terms of total votes:
1. Final Fantasy VII (371,448)
2. Chrono Trigger (306,889)
3. Super Mario Bros. 3 (254,499)
4. The Legend of Zelda (243,018)
5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (243,108)
6. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (231,863)
7. Super Smash Bros. Melee (203,059)
8. Starcraft (187,357)
9. Final Fantasy (172,646)
10. Final Fantasy VI (162,696)
11. Super Mario World (162,462)
12. Final Fantasy X (141,312)
13. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (134,762)
14. Tetris (133,648)
15. Goldeneye (125,062)
16. Metal Gear Solid (115,959)
No types there. Honest. Also, no Round 2 losers managed to make the list. (FFT is ranked #17, and Sonic 2 is #18) Look, Final Fantasy gets overrated yet AGAIN.
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From: Alanna82
| Posted: 6/7/2004 11:46:45 AM | Message Detail
I love you guys' sigs... as a joke I made my quote like that too.... ^_^
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From: KainHighwind1221
| Posted: 6/7/2004 11:47:08 AM | Message Detail
lets make this a 500 topic shall we?
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The following statement is true. The preceding statement is false. (blows your mind huh?)
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The following statement is true. The preceding statement is false. (blows your mind huh?)
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 6/7/2004 11:48:38 AM | Message Detail
4. The Legend of Zelda (243,018)
5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (243,108)
No typos, eh?
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5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (243,108)
No typos, eh?
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From: Haste2
| Posted: 6/7/2004 12:13:35 PM | Message Detail
Doh...that's 241,057 votes for Zelda: OoT.
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From: WackerJr
| Posted: 6/7/2004 1:18:12 PM | Message Detail
Nice work haste!
From: lil dude109
| Posted: 6/7/2004 1:19:13 PM | Message Detail
almost 500 now
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There is no such thing as good or evil, just perspective and opinion, that is what seperates us.
From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:15:32 PM | Message Detail
It's not like you were far off or anything, Shake, It was a difference
so small that one match would have changed the outcome... and the same
could be said for the distance between me and the top 50... *grumbles*
Top 100 (110, but who's counting?) isn't all that bad.
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Top 100 (110, but who's counting?) isn't all that bad.
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I stand second only to the one and only Lord of Gurus, UltimaterializerX who bested me by no less than 11 points!
From: jonthomson
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:22:01 PM | Message Detail
Well, top 17%. Can't argue with that really.
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Jon Thomson - final score : 138/192
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Jon Thomson - final score : 138/192
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:26:17 PM | Message Detail
Congratulations UltimaterializerX! Thought of what your 5/10 free games are going to be?
Disgaea (promised Aeon that I`d get it for him if I won anything)
Super Mario All Stars (so I can have a copy of the original Mario games)
Super Metroid (if it even exists on the site)
Final Fantasy 6 (if it even exists on the site)
Haven`t decided on a 5th title yet. It was going to be the SC Battle Chest, but that plan went south. It`s okay though, I`ll think of something. Earthbound, maybe? Or perhaps even La Pucielle Tactics, which has been highly recommended by multiple people.
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Disgaea (promised Aeon that I`d get it for him if I won anything)
Super Mario All Stars (so I can have a copy of the original Mario games)
Super Metroid (if it even exists on the site)
Final Fantasy 6 (if it even exists on the site)
Haven`t decided on a 5th title yet. It was going to be the SC Battle Chest, but that plan went south. It`s okay though, I`ll think of something. Earthbound, maybe? Or perhaps even La Pucielle Tactics, which has been highly recommended by multiple people.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:44:31 PM | Message Detail
These topics usually get flooded to hell once it gets close to 500. Apparently we truly are in the offseason over here.
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From: torey luvullo
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:45:36 PM | Message Detail
i'll help flood...
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UltimaterializerX, the most godly of prognosticators, has won the most rare of prizes - being in my first sig.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:46:18 PM | Message Detail
Don`t flood. Sheesh. Come up with stats or something.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:47:06 PM | Message Detail
Here we go...
Division 8 Round 1: (3)The Legend of Zelda vs (14)Adventure
The Legend of Zelda - 92894 (95.20%)
Adventure - 4686 (4.80%)
Total Votes - 97580
Vote Difference - 88208
Prediction Percentage - 99.02%
Match Picture - www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr04b06.jpg
Picture Rating - 5.64/10
Prophet Challenge Statistics
Entries for The Legend of Zelda - 123
Entries for Adventure - 0
Total Entries - 123
This is about as dominant a performance as you can get. This match set records all over the place in terms of pure beatings, and Adventure, while very influential in the industry, got its ass whipped in this match. It`s simply too old and far obscure to do much of anything in a poll on our site. Why did it make it, you ask? The nomination system. Few titles from the various Atari systems are noteworthy, but Adventure would be one of them. There is also the tidbit that CJayC openly stated that he tweaked the bracket a tiny bit to get more interesting matches. So maybe he knew how influential Adventure was and put it in to see how it would do? Who knows.
A couple of interesting things to note about this match before I move on. Adventure managed to make the Top 100 list on IGN`s list. And while their list truly has some issues (no Mario 3 or Final Fantasy 7), Adventure even being mentioned was something. Also, Aventure managed to make it all the way up to #13 on our FAQ list on the site during this match. Another thing of note is that this match featured the highest prediction percentage of any in the contest.
As for The Legend of Zelda, this was no surprise. It`s Zelda. But when your opponent sets a record for futility set back in 2002 by Mrs. Pac Man during a time when vote totals were lower than they are now, you are showing some true power. And it wasn`t like it was even close, either. Adventure beat Mrs. Pac Man`s record by at least 500 votes. Zelda fever started hitting the board after this matchup, and many people, including yours truly, were wondering whether or not Zelda was going to completely own this contest. I originally had Zelda 1 over Mario 3 in the Elite 8, but this match made me think twice about it. I`m sure it made others do a double take as well. 95% of the vote against anything is no joke, and the female population of gamefaqs outnumbers the people who voted for Adventure in this match. Scary.
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Division 8 Round 1: (3)The Legend of Zelda vs (14)Adventure
The Legend of Zelda - 92894 (95.20%)
Adventure - 4686 (4.80%)
Total Votes - 97580
Vote Difference - 88208
Prediction Percentage - 99.02%
Match Picture - www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr04b06.jpg
Picture Rating - 5.64/10
Prophet Challenge Statistics
Entries for The Legend of Zelda - 123
Entries for Adventure - 0
Total Entries - 123
This is about as dominant a performance as you can get. This match set records all over the place in terms of pure beatings, and Adventure, while very influential in the industry, got its ass whipped in this match. It`s simply too old and far obscure to do much of anything in a poll on our site. Why did it make it, you ask? The nomination system. Few titles from the various Atari systems are noteworthy, but Adventure would be one of them. There is also the tidbit that CJayC openly stated that he tweaked the bracket a tiny bit to get more interesting matches. So maybe he knew how influential Adventure was and put it in to see how it would do? Who knows.
A couple of interesting things to note about this match before I move on. Adventure managed to make the Top 100 list on IGN`s list. And while their list truly has some issues (no Mario 3 or Final Fantasy 7), Adventure even being mentioned was something. Also, Aventure managed to make it all the way up to #13 on our FAQ list on the site during this match. Another thing of note is that this match featured the highest prediction percentage of any in the contest.
As for The Legend of Zelda, this was no surprise. It`s Zelda. But when your opponent sets a record for futility set back in 2002 by Mrs. Pac Man during a time when vote totals were lower than they are now, you are showing some true power. And it wasn`t like it was even close, either. Adventure beat Mrs. Pac Man`s record by at least 500 votes. Zelda fever started hitting the board after this matchup, and many people, including yours truly, were wondering whether or not Zelda was going to completely own this contest. I originally had Zelda 1 over Mario 3 in the Elite 8, but this match made me think twice about it. I`m sure it made others do a double take as well. 95% of the vote against anything is no joke, and the female population of gamefaqs outnumbers the people who voted for Adventure in this match. Scary.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 6/7/2004 2:47:17 PM | Message Detail
Not much to talk about in 2 posts.
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Ultimaterializer > Nintendo
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Ultimaterializer > Nintendo
