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Contest Stats & Discussion - Part 20
From: Skularis | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:27:09 AM | Message Detail
Hell. Yes.

Mario vs. Crono III, here we come!
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Go back home to Final Fantasy buddy, you might get hurt out here. -Tinek Arukena
Spring Contest Score = STARCRAFT'D
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:29:38 AM | Message Detail
Well, you all put too much stock in Zelda's victories over its lackluster opponents. Considering Mario 3 was able to put up astounding numbers similar to Zelda against stronger games, the outcome isn't all that surprising.
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Spring Contest 2004: 80/96
Today: (1)Super Mario Brothers 3 over (2)Tetris
From: andaca | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:34:06 AM | Message Detail
Wow....the possibilities of a no-zelda final four is starting to appear....
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76 points.
FFX vs. SSBM
From: Paris | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:35:45 AM | Message Detail
Wow....the possibilities of a no-zelda final four is starting to appear....

It has been a fact for a good day.

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From: Skularis | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:38:10 AM | Message Detail
And SMB3 keeps losing ground at a steady rate. Where oh where will it stabilize?
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Go back home to Final Fantasy buddy, you might get hurt out here. -Tinek Arukena
Spring Contest Score = STARCRAFT'D
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:38:29 AM | Message Detail
Considering Mario 3 was able to put up astounding numbers similar to Zelda against stronger games, the outcome isn't all that surprising.

Trust me I know, I even said for the longest time that SMB3 would do the exact same thing LoZ did to the opponents if not better but the result right now is shocking. I mean, SMB3 winning isn`t and even by 55% wouldn`t be but starting out with over 70% and now getting around 60% is still amazing. I don`t know maybe its just me but I find this result to be crazy. SMB3`s strength is obviously right there making its next round match against CT/ALttP look good.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:39:40 AM | Message Detail
I`d imagine this match would end around 56% for SMB3 with the day vote going to LoZ. I know, I know Mario is a big day vote getter but considering Zelda games have been the monster day vote getter in this tournament I expect it to swing that way.
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From: creativename | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:44:31 AM | Message Detail
This is the first result that truly disgusts me. I could accept The Legend of Zelda losing a close match...but this? This?

I don't know why, but I'm getting the feeling that Chrono Trigger will win comfortably, and that Ocarina of Time might easily beat Final Fantasy VII. Even though the current match results would imply weakness for Zelda relative to Final Fantasy, since Final Fantasy did almost as good as Zelda (I'm assuming LoZ will pass Final Fantasy's % by the end), and I have no logical reason for this, but I just get the impression that the tournament is Ocarina of Time's to lose now.

Clearly, SFF is playing a big role here. While the extrapolated method has been proven to work well for the character contest we've known for a while that it probably doesn't work nearly as well for this contest.

I never expected The Legend of Zelda to lose this bad though. I feel like screaming "ZELDAAAAAA!!!" like the guy in those commercials back in the day. These results are unacceptable to me.
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I am in awe of her PWNage.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:45:32 AM | Message Detail
604 vote lead and 60.10%.
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From: creativename | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:50:03 AM | Message Detail
On second thought, I due kind of have a reason for thinking that Ocarina of Time might beat Final Fantasy VII easily.

I think that respect played a big role in the 128 division. In the other divisions though, it didn't seem to play nearly as big a role, until this result. SMB3 is possibly the most respected game ever, certainly more respected than the original Zelda. Ocarina of Time gets a lot more respect than Final Fantasy VII. If it is about respect, Final Fantasy VII will lose.

I hope I'm wrong. In fact I hope The Legend of Zelda makes this close, and it just might, though it would still take an unprecendented miracle for it to win.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 12:53:18 AM | Message Detail
It definitely would be a miracle for it to win. That would mean over 10% gain and that my friends is more impressive than SC`s win over WW. Why? Simply because of the fact it would take a bigger vote comeback, percentage comeback, and it has no source but the GameFAQ`s community. But then again I only expect LoZ to gain 4-5% of the morning/day vote making this closer but an easy win for SMB3.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:14:41 AM | Message Detail
Zelda isn't dead yet. Wait for the AOL users to wake up. :-)

Although this is looking good for my bracket, could still salvage three out of four Final Four contenders. Although that would require NO Zelda games in the final four.

Random theory. I'm thinking that the winner of this thing will simply come down to old school gaming against new school gaming, the actual games that are in it won't matter too much. If I take a look at my "ten best games of all time" list, you'd only find one there that would qualify to enter the bottom half of the draw. I'd imagine for the vast majority of people, it'll be the same - either they can remember the 8-bit era from the first time around, and can remember the days when gameplay was king, or they started playing games from the Playstation onwards. I can't envisage too many people, when asked to name their ten best games of all time, having a 50-50 split between old and new games.
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From: NeoElfboy | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:31:17 AM | Message Detail
I can't envisage too many people, when asked to name their ten best games of all time, having a 50-50 split between old and new games.

I disagree. Not only would I fall into that category (roughly speaking), but I suspect many other GameFAQs regulars do... most people who care enough about games to come to GameFAQs and vote regularly obviously still play and like the ones that are still coming out, but most are old enough to have started in the 8-bit or 16-bit eras and well thus have nosalgic favourites from that era too.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/31/2004 5:13:05 AM | Message Detail
!!!

60%?!? SIXTY PERCENT?!?

While the extrapolated method has been proven to work well for the character contest we've known for a while that it probably doesn't work nearly as well for this contest.

I got a big money question for you though... why is it that way?

EXTRAPOLATED RANKINGS FOR LOWER DIVISION 128

1. 50.00% - (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee
2. 49.06% - (3) Final Fantasy 10
3. 46.46% - (7) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
4. 43.28% - (15) Metal Gear Solid 2
5. 36.87% - (10) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
6. 32.91% - (6) Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
7. 25.04% - (14) Shenmue
8. 22.15% - (11) Fire Emblem
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 081/096 --- Matches: 48/56 --- Rank: 00578/40940 --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/31/2004 6:41:36 AM | Message Detail
Well I for one am not surprise at the results because for the average voter they probably havn't played one or both so they'll go by how good the series was, but that only works for older games
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My Score 77/96 SMB3 vs. LoZ
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/31/2004 6:51:32 AM | Message Detail
Looks like a 32/64 bit game might win the 128 bit division. Also does anybody think that FFX had a better chance of winning then SSBM. Well if you look both FFX and SC's peak times are during the night so I think FFX can counter SC Battle.net's votes
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My Score 77/96 SMB3 vs. LoZ
From: torey luvullo | Posted: 5/31/2004 6:52:23 AM | Message Detail
i could not have been more wrong. zelda has no chance to survive. all hail mario!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/31/2004 6:55:13 AM | Message Detail
don't fell too bad torey just rememeber that LoZ was the favourite from brackets to win this match
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My Score 77/96 SMB3 vs. LoZ
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/31/2004 7:07:28 AM | Message Detail
Problem is, since FF10's pattern is similar to Starcraft's, I'd have expected a close race all day long between the two, unlike SSBM, which will probably pull away during the day and let Starcraft come back at night.

But overall, SSBM is more fit than FF10 to face Starcraft, since it's essentially stronger. Not by much, but still...
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 081/096 --- Matches: 48/56 --- Rank: 00578/40940 --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: smitelf | Posted: 5/31/2004 7:29:09 AM | Message Detail
Okay, these StarCraft victories are getting to some peoples heads. Some seem to think SC could beat Ocarina of Time or Final Fantasy VII. Ludicrous.

Yes, it does seem ludicrous but it’s a match I would really want to see.

And it would be on a Saturday :)

On a side note, would it be alright if I changed my sig? It's been a week, and I consider that a decent bet expiration time :)

Yeah, sure, I didn’t even expect you to keep it this long >_>

This is the first result that truly disgusts me. I could accept The Legend of Zelda losing a close match...but this? This?

Yup, SMB3 is looking very strong as contender to get to the finals. Mario vs. Chrono III may very well end up in Mario’s favor…again.

I don't know why, but I'm getting the feeling that Chrono Trigger will win comfortably, and that Ocarina of Time might easily beat Final Fantasy VII.

Well, hey, I agree with the first part of that statement. If LttP couldn’t pull an impressive win against FFVI then I doubt it’s going to beat Chrono Trigger. As for the second, I still see this contest as being FFVII’s to lose. Considering what a powerhouse it is, it has gotten very little press on the boards. We’re always talking about some Zelda game, or SSBM, or Starcraft, while FFVII has been neatly moving along with unsurprising strength. I think it will beat Ocarina of Time, and possibly by a comfortable margin of a percent or two.

Ocarina of Time gets a lot more respect than Final Fantasy VII. If it is about respect, Final Fantasy VII will lose.

The boards respect OoT more. The general public? Nah.

Although this is looking good for my bracket, could still salvage three out of four Final Four contenders. Although that would require NO Zelda games in the final four.

Same here :) though that would have been the case, anyway.

I disagree. Not only would I fall into that category (roughly speaking), but I suspect many other GameFAQs regulars do... most people who care enough about games to come to GameFAQs and vote regularly obviously still play and like the ones that are still coming out, but most are old enough to have started in the 8-bit or 16-bit eras and well thus have nosalgic favourites from that era too.

I certainly wouldn’t fit the 50/50 split. The first system that I’m old enough to remember clearly (I think I may have had an Atari when I was three or four but I can only vaguely remember playing Space Invaders) would be the SNES (not including the GameBoy or any roms I’ve played since). Yet, only one SNES game would make it on my top ten, that being Super Mario Kart. The rest are mostly new school. I’ve never been much for the nostalgia factor; a good game is a good game and, IMHO, the best ones are recent. Then again, many of the games I love are PC games from the late 90s, probably 32/64 bit era equivalent – except Starcraft, apparently :) I guess I’m just one of the rare exceptions of those who have played old and new school games who like the newer school better in general, though the ratio of crap to greatness has increased, too.
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Current Sp2K4 Score: 79/96, Next Winner: Super Mario Bros. 3
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/31/2004 7:38:16 AM | Message Detail
Peeps of GameFAQ's! Heed my call as I beckon thee!
All of you who call this place a 2nd home! :) Well it's time for...the once again fully revised...

Steve Illumina Speaks

Indeed it is so, the legendary and ever humorous commentary spews forth from my quickly typing hands, to offer some funny and lighthearted yet well-honed levity, here on this the stats thread... the past, present and future bastion of proven intelligence on this overly fanboy dominated board.

And so it proceeds, with the overworshipped overachiever continuing to overachieve in the Greatest Generation Division

ROUND 4: Match LVIII (58...)

(1)Chrono Trigger vs (6)Zelda: LTTP

Steve's Prediction: Chrono by 51.1%
Steve's Bracket: Chrono (Over FFVI...)
No Way I'd Pick: StarTropics
Upset Chances: Nope...This #1 Seed Rides On Too...to fuel the age old rivalry on Friday...

Comments: With the King of Platformers winning as projected, but at a higher percentage...kudos to the plumber on that...our generic lil spiky haired katana wielding teeny-bopper friend is shaking in his little brown boots...for his destiny is being revealed to him now...

First though, he must take out the good elf LTTP, which surprised more than a few with making it this far, having taken out FFVI to get here, along with the prerequisite cupcakes. Another match in the Square vs Nintendo mold, but some of the fair weather Zelda fans will pull a chrono shift here for they will recognize Trigger is the better game.

I was one of the 1st Elites to say no Zelda would make the Final Four...this will get us closer to that reality.

Why Chrono Will Advance: It is the better game from an overall standpoint. It is not the best SNES Square RPG in my eyes, but it is to many many peeps, and it is better than Zelda LTTP. Chrono is the #2 choice of the FF Fanboys, it will show why this match.

Why Zelda Wont Advance: It beat one good foe which gives it a great chance, but it will not pull this one off...Chrono is too well worshipped...

Did you also not hate?...Nuttin I hated in these games, they flowed well from start to finish!

Probable Results: Should be closer than Mario and Zelda 1, but wont be like a typical StarCraft match.

More Quotes! "Wake up Crono, its morning!" -Mom, "I'm a defect?" -Robo "I am Aghanim" -Aghanim
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/31/2004 7:50:13 AM | Message Detail
I can't envisage too many people, when asked to name their ten best games of all time, having a 50-50 split between old and new games.

Obviously you haven't asked in this thread yet. If you'd like I'll throw out my top 10...

"I got a big money question for you though... why is it that way?"

Starcraft... LttP vs. SM...
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From: smitelf | Posted: 5/31/2004 8:34:18 AM | Message Detail
So, who do you all think will win Division 128: Mass Carriers, or Mass Characters?

I apologize profusely for the horrible pun.
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Current Sp2K4 Score: 79/96, Next Winner: Super Mario Bros. 3
From: smitelf | Posted: 5/31/2004 8:36:37 AM | Message Detail
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From: smitelf | Posted: 5/31/2004 8:37:20 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and I think Starcraft will win, even if it *is* a Thursday. Quite a few people will be out of school by then (many schools get out on Wednesday) so that might help the Battle.net traffic a little. Anyway, I'm rooting for Cinderella to get her one last dance before midnight (i.e. FFVII or OoT) comes to end the fairy tale.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/31/2004 8:39:59 AM | Message Detail
That's not what I meant. What I meant is, why are spring results so much more volatile than in summer?
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 081/096 --- Matches: 48/56 --- Rank: 00578/40940 --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: smitelf | Posted: 5/31/2004 8:41:48 AM | Message Detail
Something else just occurred to me. It seems to me that having FFVII vs. OoT right before the Starcraft vs. SSBM match will be detrimental to Starcraft, as well, if the match (FFVII vs. OoT) is close. People will be worn out from that match and probably still talking about it, and Starcraft *needs* hype and excitement in order to win. If GameFAQs is too exhausted to drum up support, SC could very well lose without its huge nightly comeback.
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From: Tai | Posted: 5/31/2004 8:46:51 AM | Message Detail
So, who do you all think will win Division 128: Mass Carriers, or Mass Characters?

I apologize profusely for the horrible pun.


Mass Characters.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 5/31/2004 8:58:07 AM | Message Detail
So, who do you all think will win Division 128: Mass Carriers, or Mass Characters?

That's great smitelf. And I could see either of them winning. If I wanted my bracket to seem better, obviously I would want Starcraft to win, but being a fan of SSBM like I am, I don't want it to fall. SSBM seems to be stronger than WW, but then again, that hasn't seemed to stop StarCraft. I really don't like the idea of Battlenet controlling this contest, and I would like to think that they're not. But if they have as many people as they do at any given time, essentially they could almost do anything. Also, SSBM most likely won't have the bracket vote, if such a small thing ever existed, because from a bracket standpoint, you would think less people had Starcraft winning than SSBM winning, so for your bracket to look better, you would want ssbm to lose.
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From: Garsha | Posted: 5/31/2004 8:59:48 AM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/31/2004 11:22:07 AM | Message Detail
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #58 - (1) CHRONO TRIGGER vs. (6) LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK TO THE PAST ***

Sales

the-magicbox.com only has Japanese numbers, 2 million for CT to 1.1 million for LttP. CT never came out in Europe, making the matter more complicated.

Tried to ask the board about this... quote from Solarshadow himself:

I would be seriously surprised if LttP didn't sell far more than CT in North America. LttP was easily a million-seller, where CT became so hard to find that copies were going for over a hundred dollars on eBay. Supply and demand suggests that not many copies of CT were ever available (although the quality of the game does mean that more people will hold onto it, it still implies low sales numbers). I would liken it to FFT's North American sales, whatever those may be. Throw in Europe and I can't imagine that LttP isn't the winner.

Makes sense to me. Thanks Solar.

- Advantage LTTP.

Franchises

Chrono Trigger may be stronger than most Zelda games, but the Zelda name still carries a lot of weight, whereas Chrono needs "Trigger" next to it to draw attention.

- Advantage LTTP.

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: CT
Number of reviews: CT
Average review score: CT
Board activity: CT

Only place where LttP puts up a fight is the review scores. But MASS 10s = INSTANT WIN.

- Advantage CT.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Chrono Trigger - 83
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 11
Also picked: Final Fantasy 6 (5), Super Mario World (2), Super Metroid (1)

POINT VALUE
2. Chrono Trigger - 2623
7. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 734

Massive faith for SMB3 pre-contest ends up paying off today. Will CT do the same?

- Advantage CT.

Previous Rounds

If there ever was a turning point to this tournament, it would be LttP/FF6. Zelda lost all the momentum it carried there - so much that the two that had the best chance of winning their division are already eliminated. Compare: CT annihilates SMRPG and SMW with impressive margins, and LttP almost loses to FF6. Looks like CT takes it.

- Advantage CT.

Summer Contests / Polls of the Day

Contradictory signs here. First a favorite Square game PotD gives CT almost equal to FF7, then Crono and Cloud are dead even in SC2K2... comes SC2K3, KH strikes and Cloud gets his well-documented boost, which seems to help FF7 as well. And then you got LttP, which nears OoT in favorite Zelda polls - and now we can say FF7 is ahead of CT. If FF7 and OoT is the barnburner it's said it's going to be... I got no idea how to call this one.

- TIE.

Intangibles

Well, absolutely nothing seems to favor FF6 over CT: all signs point to the contrary. If LttP could barely escape the former, the latter should end its run.

- Advantage CT.

Conclusion: No-Zelda Final 4 should become a reality, barring a surprise in the next two days.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 081/096 --- Matches: 48/56 --- Rank: 00578/40940 --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: Tarrot | Posted: 5/31/2004 1:19:01 PM | Message Detail
I just thought of this. If SC beats SSBM, it's next match against FFVII/OoT will be on a Saturday...

Upset chances are in the air, no matter how slim.
From: creativename | Posted: 5/31/2004 1:50:21 PM | Message Detail
I got a big money question for you though... why is it that way?

Seems that fans of games might be more fickle than fans of characters, especially when it comes to Nintendo games. I would've thought it would be the other way around.

This is a guess, but it may have to do with nostalgia and game aging--characters appear to be more timeless, since they appear in multiple games. Most games, however, are only released once; and re-releases/remakes probably have limited impact.

So not only do you have SFF when it comes to companies, but also when it comes to generation. Needless to say, gamers are stratified by age; most people who've played NES games will have played the other NES games. This could lead to all sorts of strange, unpredictable dynamics.

Whereas characters are re-introduced to new generations, franchise power and fame are the only real ways older games can hang on with newer gamers.

Again, this is just me speculating, you may have your own spin on this.
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http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 1:56:25 PM | Message Detail
Now, this may be just me but I`m still shock at today`s result... SMB3 is crazy...
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 2:00:52 PM | Message Detail
it's next match against FFVII/OoT will be on a Saturday...

Upset chances are in the air, no matter how slim.


I am absolutely 100% sure that StarCraft could not beat either FFVII or OoT. In fact I`d be so sure I would bet my account that it wouldn`t. Unfortunately, should SC beat SSBM we are going to have to listen to the board and their wonderful talk about how it is going to happen.
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From: swirIdude | Posted: 5/31/2004 2:14:42 PM | Message Detail
Unfortunately, should SC beat SSBM we are going to have to listen to the board and their wonderful talk about how it is going to happen.

At this point to me Starcraft is a big favorite vs SSBM.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 5/31/2004 2:43:25 PM | Message Detail
AAAAAARGH!!!

I hate my ISP. I missed the end of Wind Waker vs. StarCraft, all of FFX vs. SSBM, and the deadline for my SMB3/LoZ prediction in the Oracle prediction because my ****ing goddamn Internet was down.

I am VERY pissed right now.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 2:44:48 PM | Message Detail
At this point to me Starcraft is a big favorite vs SSBM.

I was talking about StarCraft vs. FFVII/OoT. If it beat SSBM we are going to have to listen to them blabber on about how SC is going to the finals.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:01:50 PM | Message Detail
Starcraft can be summed up by the following sentence:

It can only beat weak games on its own, and needs Bnet to come and save it whenever it gets in trouble.

And most schools will not be out by Thursday. I know that we in the Northeast, one of the densest areas in the country, let out the second week of June. I also retain some hope that SSBM will have a stronger Halo effect. If you were on Bnet during Starcraft/Halo, you`d see that many of the people responsed to the spamming by saying that they liked Halo. SSBM`s large initial jump on FFX shows me that the same could hold true for SSBM. Therefore, if SSBM can build a lead of 2000 or so, maybe a little more, it can win the match.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:06:37 PM | Message Detail
It can only beat weak games on its own, and needs Bnet to come and save it whenever it gets in trouble.

I agree to that.
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From: creativename | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:17:45 PM | Message Detail
I was talking about StarCraft vs. FFVII/OoT. If it beat SSBM we are going to have to listen to them blabber on about how SC is going to the finals.

Indeed. I cannot believe that Starcraft is overshadowing THE match of the tourney.

If Starcraft does beat Final Fantasy VII or Ocarina of Time--which I think is almost impossible--then, and only then, will the contest actually become a joke. However many times people say that the contest is already a joke, it's not true. But if Staracraft beats the 32-64 winner, then the contest loses all credibility. Because that would mean that it is no longer the GameFAQs game contest--Starcraft is obviously not the most popular game among GameFAQs users. Starcraft getting to the finals would mean the contest was ruined by fanboyism and interference.

Frankly, if Starcraft even gets more than 44% against Final Fantasy VII or Ocarina of Time, it means that things have gone too far on the vote stuffing end.
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Nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for the Summer 2004 Character Contest!
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
From: creativename | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:19:10 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and thanks to smitelf for letting me change my sig :)
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Nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for the Summer 2004 Character Contest!
http://SC2k4.com/frog (click on the galleries)
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:19:28 PM | Message Detail
Frankly, if Starcraft even gets more than 44% against Final Fantasy VII or Ocarina of Time, it means that things have gone too far on the vote stuffing end.

I agree yet again. This battle.NET bit deal is really becoming quite the annoyance, and if it manages to do that to OoT/FFVII that is just ridiculous.
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda
From: Garsha | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:25:54 PM | Message Detail
Slow, can you give us the Winners and Losers of round 3? (That includes the Star and the Turd...)
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Points: 80/96/192
My pick for today:
(1)Mario 3 over (3)Zelda - Tomorrow: (1)Chrono Trigger over (6)Zelda: LttP
From: KO 35 | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:52:44 PM | Message Detail
Battle.net? You haven't seen the REAL popularity/power of Starcraft until one of us tells the people in Korea about this contest. If a lot of people in Korea learn of this contest, then expect Starcraft to get some 80/20 wins instead of the usual 51/49.
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"I doubt I'll lose." -nal_ra
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:53:50 PM | Message Detail
Only 65% of the Korean network voted for StarCraft against Wind Waker.
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Spring Contest 2004: 80/96
Today: (1)Super Mario Brothers 3 over (2)Tetris
From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:55:45 PM | Message Detail
That's because not many Koreans voted in any of the polls. If a larger number did then the percentages would be far more accurate.

LordOfDabu
A legend beyond all ages.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/31/2004 3:58:04 PM | Message Detail
Call me crazy, but what is the Koren Netblock? Is that their name for an ISP?

And LMAO at Jeff subliminally calling Zelda fans stupid with his 'just as unsurprisingly' comment.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: smitelf | Posted: 5/31/2004 4:02:43 PM | Message Detail
And most schools will not be out by Thursday. I know that we in the Northeast, one of the densest areas in the country, let out the second week of June.

All I'm saying is that there are quite a few schools that will be out by the time the match takes place. I still think SC can take SSBM, though, even on a normal, in-school weekday. Its chances are good.

And I wish people would stop complaining about Battle.net. This isn't a GameFAQs contest to begin with, guys. It's a goddamn site poll and anyone who has an internet connection has the right to vote in it. Stop acting so elitist. Battle.net isn't making the contest more of a joke, it's drawing more traffic to the site, which is the entire purpose of having the contest. You think Ceej gives out prizes out of the goodness of his heart? These polls are supposed to determine the "Best. Game. Ever." not the "Best. Game. Ever. As Judged By GameFAQs Regulars".
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 79/96, Next Winner: Super Mario Bros. 3
From: Phediuk | Posted: 5/31/2004 4:16:24 PM | Message Detail
Match #55 Review:

C-C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

Match #56 Review:

C-C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! (Pt.2)

Match #58 Preview:

CT looks like the favorite at this point, but after StarCraft overcoming all odds to beat WW, anything seems possible...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
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