Prediction Leaderboard:

1 Saitou7777 - 84
2 willyman76 - 82
2 SlangEdter41 - 82
4 LordOfDabu - 81
4 alpha door - 81
4 UltimaterializerX - 81
4 FrostHarpy - 81
4 PepeCamello - 81
4 usefulidiot - 81
4 SSJGasSnake - 81
4 Kirin17 - 81
4 Delpheous2003 - 81
4 Aprosenf - 81
4 Dralor - 81
4 Vortyx - 81
4 Sins Tox1n - 81

Yesterday was a very quiet day indeed. No one from the top 10 fell yesterday since only 78.89% of the people got this right. Which this could be the highest of this round.

Ok for Starcraft vs. Wind Waker I'll go...

Night Vote: Starcraft
Morning Vote: Wind Waker
Afternoon Vote: Wind Waker
Night Vote: Starcraft

So basically either Starcraft needs a huge lead to win or Wind Waker leading by very little votes to win
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 73/84 LoZ: OoT vs. Goldeneye

I just realized something. alpha door is, in fact, the entity.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Hey charmander, why did you only take the top 16? Hatin on the guys below them?
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Hey charmander, why did you only take the top 16? Hatin on the guys below them?

If you read, I'm doing the top 10, but more the 10 people are tied for fourth so to be fair I added them all
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 73/84 LoZ: OoT vs. Goldeneye

Just saw The Day After Tomorrow; wonderful movie. Comes recommended by the TNote. Speaking of the TNote, time for another... TNotez Take:

Ocarina of Time is a bit under the GunPoint, but alas, yet another head-on prediction for me. If I were setting a spread on the upcoming clash of the titans, I would make FFVII a 2-3% favorite. And now onto the only division I have missed picks in...

Starcraft has just decimated my bracket. Halo did not shock me, as if I could, I would have switched to Starcraft after the brackets were due, but before the match even begin. Kingdom Hearts laying a total egg in this contest shocked me though, as the videogame world is not flat, or round, but rather Square. Speaking of eggs, how does LttP double up SM, but WW barely beats MP by 10%? WW scares me a lot, but for the sake of my bracket, I am going with...

GunPoint Prediction: Zelda: WW with 55%

Starcraft on par with Metroid Prime? Blasphemy, I know. And yet, it would not shock me at all if SC in fact puts up a better showing than MP. Earlier I discussed why I thought SC could win this match, and my jaw would not hit the floor. It takes some serious rationalizing to give SC a chance, so, frankly, the glass slipper shatters in 27 hours. We will never know the figure, but I am really curious as to how many people had Halo making the Elite 8 out of this half of the bracket. We all bashed Halo a new, well, ya know, and it would not shock me if it gathered the largest percentage of bracket support (though I cannot imagine WW could be far behind). Really, Sunday's match is the one I have been waiting for since GTA raped my bracket one week ago...


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Contest: 79/84; Should be tied for 4th if I went with SSBM like I should have...

Match #53 Review:

Zzzzzzz...

Match #55 Preview:

Ah, now here's an interesting match...WW is likely to win, but you'd better sure as hell believe that I'm going to root for StarCraft until the bitter end.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

To all of you who love those recursive rankings and stuff...

If Halo>>Master Chief and Half-Life>>Gordon Freeman by the same factor, Starcraft will beat Wind Waker with 61% of the vote....

We all know that Half-Life probably got a much bigger boost than Halo...but still...isn't there a little light of hope for us Starcraft believers? =)
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Match#53 - 1st in Spread Betting, 2nd in Betting, 3rd in the Oracle, T-105th (78pts)

It is well known that the character contest is not an accurate proxy for the game contest.

I'm looking for Wind Waker to win with 54%-62% here. My vote is definitely going to Wind Waker, even though I've never played it. I played Starcraft last year, didn't find it to be fun (I much preferred Dune, which I played back in the day). The vastly annoying nature of the Starcraft fanboys on these boards however have caused me to resent that game. I'm hoping for it to get blown out.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

It looks like OoT may not even beat Goldeneye by as much as FFVII beat MGS.
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"Delicious morsel! Let me get my bib...!" - Ultros
Nominate Vivi Orunitia for SC2K4!

,I>The vastly annoying nature of the Starcraft fanboys on these boards however have caused me to resent that game. I'm hoping for it to get blown out.

You aren`t the only one creative.

It looks like OoT may not even beat Goldeneye by as much as FFVII beat MGS.

FFVII beat MGS by 71.3%, OoT should end with 73.03%. That is a basically a 2% difference.

Oh since the start of the match - 1 hour in - 2.23% of the day vote. Not to bad, ALttP managed 4.83% however.
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

I'm talkin' about the number of votes.
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"Delicious morsel! Let me get my bib...!" - Ultros
Nominate Vivi Orunitia for SC2K4!

The vastly annoying nature of the Starcraft fanboys on these boards however have caused me to resent that game. I'm hoping for it to get blown out.

You aren`t the only one creative.

...i'm afraid you don't have much room to talk here, heroic mario.
personally, i am eagerly awaiting the demise of the first zelda game for similar reasons...

i doubt that it will happen tonight, however.
wind waker and ffx are the only games to score blowouts in this division.
that has to say something...doesn't it...?
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The vastly annoying nature of the Starcraft fanboys on these boards however have caused me to resent that game. I'm hoping for it to get blown out.

If by Starcraft you meant Zelda, then yes.

A little under an hour till judgement day...
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Starcraft vs WW - Kerrigan is just getting started.

I'm talkin' about the number of votes.

Today is Friday. That means less votes, less traffic than weekdays. % is really more important in comparing two matches.
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Current Score: 80/84 Ranked: 21st
Today's Pick: Zelda over Goldeneye

...i'm afraid you don't have much room to talk here, heroic mario.
personally, i am eagerly awaiting the demise of the first zelda game for similar reasons...

Honestly though, do I go around pronouncing a Zelda game has a chance when is basically doesn`t? Or say some lame catchphrase like "MASS CARRIERS = INSTANT WIN" over and over? I mean I`m sure sometimes I can get annoying with the Zelda praise but I do at least acknowledge when it isn`t looking of greatest chances, back up what I usually say contest-wise, etc.

StarCraft fanboys just seem to spout that one phrase, post ASCII of a Carrier, and honestly believe SC is going to win.
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

Awwww, Starcraft is still clinging to a 51% lead.

How cute! ^_^
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

o_O at the Final Fantasy X vs. SSBM match pic.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr04b56.jpg

OUCH. If pic factor was ever to matter at all, it would be here, I think we can all agree on that.

And CJayC's Mario bias shows again...he's in that pic twice. Link was in the original twice, but adult Link is nowhere to be found. Dr. Mario is cut-off right where Adult Link's tunic would start...'tis a conspiracy, I say.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

I'm with creativename on this one.....if there is any sort of vote that is based off of the picture, then SSBM is taking it and running away with it.
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Starcraft vs WW - Kerrigan is just getting started.

Can someone please post WW's percentage gains through the day in round 1 and 2? Thanks.

Incredible. Everytime I think Starcraft's next opponent has it beat cold, not only does SC keep it close, it starts winning.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?
Proud warrior of THE LUCA BLIGHT ARMY

And now, my Oracle-suicide Starcraft pick only looks almost suicidal, GREAT! =)
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Match#53 - 1st in Spread Betting, 2nd in Betting, 3rd in the Oracle, T-105th (78pts)

So... based on this poll...

Halo >= Metroid Prime?

...huh

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The last thing I see in my lifetime is that fixed smile crawling out of the television, as my brain explodes into tiny, sobbing pieces.
-Videogame Recaps

I`m really curious as to how strong Halo will be in the recursive ranking after this contest right about now. I don`t think Starcraft will win, but at least it`s well past Heroic Mario`s respect zone (43%).
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Oh, and Carriers = Instant Win
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

And the Wind Waker finally passes the 51% mark. I`m off to bed.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

I`m really curious as to how strong Halo will be in the recursive ranking after this contest right about now.

..And Kingdom Hearts, and Soul Calibur as well.

It's sad that only 60.73% of people picked OoT to get this far, and 78.89% picked FF7. Apparantly a lot of people severely overestimated Goldeneye and Super Mario 64.
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Current Score: 84/88 Ranked: 21st
Today's Pick: Zelda over Starcraft

Or a lot of people liked the game better than OOT. OOT wasn`t that good. It was decent, but not legendary. The first half of the game played like a tutorial, and the second half only had difficulty in the Water Temple if you didn`t know what you were doing. It was a great game, but it simply wasn`t difficult.

Now Link to the Past, THERE`S a game that I`m shocked as to how underestimated it was.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Allow me to completely and totally disagree with you, UltimaterializerX. OoT is the legendary game everyone makes it out to be.

*coughs*

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/197771

http://www.gamestats.com/ (under tab "highest rated")
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Current Score: 84/88 Ranked: 21st
Today's Pick: Zelda over Starcraft

Now Link to the Past, THERE`S a game that I`m shocked as to how underestimated it was.

Reckon that a lot of people going with the higher seeds (FF6, Super Metroid) had something to do with that? I'd imagine that with the older games particularly that people might not have played, they've simply gone for a 1-4-3-2 division semi, or gone for Final Fantasy on name alone. Myself, I went for Super Metroid as I think it's the best game ever...
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Jon Thomson - 42/54, 66/88 - today: Wind Waker, tomorrow: Vice City (voting SSBM)

I could honestly care less how other people felt about the game. My opinion is what it is, and for good reason. LTTP had more difficult dungeons, which in and of itself is a must-have in a Zelda title. Even in OOT`s Water Temple, all you have to do is stare at your map and gather treasure chests you missed until you have everything. LTTP also feels better for some reason. The battles are harder, the dungeons are harder, the bosses are damned hard if you aren`t prepared for them, and a certain dungeon entitled Turtle Rock is more difficult than anything OOT has to offer. 3D dungeons can only be so hard, especially when your series has taken its first step into the 3D realm.

When OOT was in the Zelda Collector`s edition, I didn`t exactly care. But when I found that LTTP was excluded, a certain Ulti was quite pissed.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

I could honestly care less how other people felt about the game. My opinion is what it is, and for good reason.

Then allow me to respectfully disagree with you, for in my opinion OoT is a legendary game.

Now FF7, that game I really can't understand. I've played it, and I admit it is a very good game, but without a doubt, not the best game ever. I don't even think it's the best FF, that goes to FF3/6.
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Current Score: 84/88 Ranked: 21st
Today's Pick: Zelda over Starcraft

There`s one thing we can agree on. FF6 owns every other game in the series, save Tactics.

And did anyone happen to archive my post-contest analysis from the 2003 contest? The damned thing got purged =(
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

WIND WAKER IS WINNNING!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAAH THIS IS T3H AWESOME OF T3H AWESOME!

Now you must say, "Sailing = Instant Win"

Bow down to the power that is WW, has it consumes Starcraft in it's waters...

They're fallling...all of them...into the ocean...MUAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA

This is gonna be a good day as I point and laugh at all the Starcraft voters who actually had faith in Starcraft's victory!!

No one here..cause you all actually gave decent reason why SC should win...while on the other hand Starcraft fans will just say "OMG T3H CELDA FANBOY WHAT THE [....]?!?!!?!?!"
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Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai.

The fact that you feel the need to actually brag that Wind Waker is winning by all of 400 votes after six hours of the poll proves that Starcraft deserves a lot of respect. If you had any confidence in WW at all, you would have gotten all the bragging out weeks ago.

Anyway, are we betting accounts on the Zelda Final Four or not? If they all make it, I close my account. If even one Zelda title fails to get in the Final Four, you have to close yours. Deal? And we`re not talking about simply closing main accounts, either. I mean not posting on this board ever again.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Wow, Zelda is winning by less than 800 votes. Starcraft has proven itself beyond my expectations. I think it deserves the respect of all on this board for getting this far and putting up a great fight against a Zelda game.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 79/88, Next Winner: Wind Waker

a number of people in the update topic are declaring the match to be over because ww is up by 900. of course, we all know that "it ain't over until slowflake declares the other game the winner". but if starcraft could just find a way to keep ww under 1500 by nightfall [eastern time] it still is in reach, altho a longshot to be sure.

There's no way Starcraft can win now, IMO. At this point in the match with Halo, Starcraft was in the lead. I can't imagine how Starcraft could keep within 1500 votes of Wind Waker with much of the morning vote and the afternoon vote still to come.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 79/88, Next Winner: Wind Waker

And did anyone happen to archive my post-contest analysis from the 2003 contest? The damned thing got purged

I've still got it, Ulti. You tell me where you want it and I'll send it there.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?
Proud warrior of THE LUCA BLIGHT ARMY

So, does anyone think tomorrow's match pic will actually have some sort of effect? I doubt it, but I'm happy he used that pic, I said in the other topic he should have used it last round, but I'm glad he pulled out all the stops for this match. Is anyone upset over it? I think it would be pretty easy to say how biased it is towards Melee, but do match pics really do that much anyway? Still, its a good pic.
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Silly Rabbit...Trix are for....kids.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.-Old Klingon Proverb

Match pics matter very little, in my opinion. People will vote for the game they like more, not which has the "cooler" picture.
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Current Score: 84/88 Ranked: 21st
Today's Pick: Zelda over Starcraft

Match pics don't matter much, but to say that none of the 80000+ voters will be influenced by the match pic is idiocy. In a close match the pics can definetly make a difference, and SSBM's pic is amazing - this gives it a little more confidence.
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Starcraft vs WW - Kerrigan is just getting started.

Deal?

No, the board will miss you too much for you to go. :-)

>_> <_<....Don't look at me like that.
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Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai.

Peeps of GameFAQ's! Do I have your attention?
All of you who dwell here and post away your lives! :) Well it's time for...the newly modernized...

Steve Illumina Speaks

Indeed it is so, the legendary and ever humorous commentary rages on from the soon to be 350 Karma Legend, to offer some lighthearted yet well-honed levity, here on this the stats thread... the one bastion of proven intelligence on this overly fanboy dominated board.

And so it proceeds, with the last true dark horse non-series game 'falling down and not getting back up' in the Modern Era Division

ROUND 3: Match LVI (56...)

(3)Final Fantasy X vs (2)Super Smash Bros Melee

Steve's Prediction: FFX by 55%
Steve's Bracket: FFX
LUE's Pick: "ULTRA COMBO!!!" Oops, thats Killer Instinct!
Upset Chances: It IS an upset, technically...

Comments: To quote Meat Loaf, "Two out of Three Aint Bad." So of the 3 big FF games here, 2 will make it, as FFX takes on the Kingdom of Miyamoto...

The Nintendites are a giddy bunch. They will control 5 of the 7 Elite Eight spots already taken once WW wins today, and they seek a 6th here with their company defining game, the game that lets the legacy of the finest gaming company in all of history beat the crap out of each other for the sheer fun of it.

The Square Legions are bitter, seething over FFVI's defeat, and are eager to avenge it. This is their chance to stun many a Nintendite and break some brackets in the process. All the better for my dreams of leaderboard glory, the hallowed name of Steve Illumina displayed for every site user to see and say..hey, wow, its Steve, the "Enlightened One".

Editor's Note: Steve Illumina the user name came from the word Illumina, a Buddhist term for "one who is enlightened with wisdom" Fits me perfectly! Though a secondary locale for this username is the mighty Illumina Sword from FFVI, my favorite game of all time. So yep now you know where it came from!

Historical Insights: FFX was the first FF to feature voice acting, though I would have loved to have that on FFVI, and IV, and VII, and VIII, and IX, my 2nd favorite FF :) It was also the only FF to spawn a sequel, though every other one I just mentioned deserves it much much more... We can only hope...

Smash Bros, the premier Cube launch title, still sells systems today and is pure Nintendo bliss. It follows their tried and true formula of original fun gaming.

Why FFX Will Prevail: Voting blocks: Square Legions seeking to avenge FFVI and the fact this FF has very little hate compared to others...cough FFVII cough

Why Smash Bros Wont Prevail: It barely beat MGS2 and Vice City, and if it has trouble with mature rated 2nd tier series on this site, it will have real problems with a first rate title like FFX.

Take a moment to remember...Watching Yuna become a summoner and wowing the townfolk...Beating up Mr. Game and Watch & Sandbag!

Probable Results: A great end to the Sweet 16 round, as FFX eekes out a close one but not too close, setting up two Zelda/FF showdowns back to back next week.

Random FFX Quotes: "Jecht was my father" -Tidus, "We've gotta fight Sin, ya?" -Wakka
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years

Well, StarCraft has done better than anything I could have imagined it doing. I even predicted 57% for Wind Waker, and now WW is pulling a 1660 vote lead at the moment with 52%. Its run so far gets my respect.
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

At this rate, what percentage does tomorrow's winner need to look like it can beat Wind Waker?
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Spring Contest 2004: 76/88
Today: (9)Kingdom Hearts over (4)Metroid Prime

^SSMB has no chance to beat WW IMO. As long as FFX wins, there is a good chance either way. Its hard to determine what % it needs, just know that Wind Waker is stronger than Melee.
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25-19 1st Place NL East
Next up: Atl Braves

At this rate, what percentage does tomorrow's winner need to look like it can beat Wind Waker?

I think either winner could beat Wind Waker regardless of how close it is.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 79/88, Next Winner: Wind Waker

I hate WW's chances next round. Either way, if SSBM wins tomorrow, Ulti has an excellent shot at winning this contest.

EXTRAPOLATED RANKINGS FOR LOWER DIVISION 32/64

1. 50.00% - (2) Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
2. 26.95% - (3) Goldeneye
3. 23.74% - (7) Super Mario 64
4. 21.95% - (11) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
5. 20.55% - (6) Perfect Dark
6. 13.69% - (15) Fallout 2
7. 10.34% - (14) Panzer Dragoon Saga
8. 07.20% - (10) NiGHTS Into Dreams

Once again, there's no other explanation than SFF to explain SM64, and NiGHTS seems like an aberration too because of that.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 081/088 --- Matches: 48/54 --- Rank: 00197/40940 --- Today's pick: Wind Waker

I've still got it, Ulti. You tell me where you want it and I'll send it there.

E-mail address in the profile, of course.

*turns around and bends over*

It`s the LEAST I could do =)
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf