Ok, sure.
We can see that FF fanboism failed with SSBM.

Suppose WW is to Oot as FFX is to FF7. Can oot thus beat FF7?


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How and since when is this part 20???
And for the record, I hold no grudge against SC. Fanboism has its weaknesses, but the philosophy behind it is acceptable.


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Starcraft spams bnet against Halo, huge upset and everyone's happy.

Starcraft spams bnet against KH, another upset, picks up steam and the board vote.

Starcraft spams bnet against WW, 3rd upset in a row, and all of a sudden hatred? Well, we certainly see where loyalties lie. Do one thing against The X-Box game or a Square-Disney game and it's ok, yet do it against a Zelda game and people are up in arms ready to kill the monster?

As I've said before, the fact SC can call on bnet is a testement to why it is one of the greatest games of all time. We have what is agreed by most as the pinacle of RTS games. Not only does it have a good single player mode, but it has the best multiplayer mode of any game as well, being able to play nearly seamlessly with people thousands of miles away. 7 years later, while not as popular as it once was, it is still maintained as the best RTS game to come out by most, and still maintains a loyal devoted fanbase, which is really all that matters.

Tarrot, as I said, I hold no grudge against SC. It was a great multiplayer-strategic game, but doesn't surpass SSBM.

So, we are all done with school, right?

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How and since when is this part 20???

Since there were 19 of its kind before it.

Starcraft spams bnet against WW, 3rd upset in a row, and all of a sudden hatred? Well, we certainly see where loyalties lie.

To be fair, I think the upset was caused not only because WW is a Nintendo game but because it was a favorite to win the division and, because of that distinction, Starcraft is seen as being more powerful than it ought to be. As I’ve said, I think that’s bull.
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it became part 20 when we decided that it'd be a good idea to renumber the topics to include all CS&D topics as if they were one continuous discussion, which they were. Basically Solar just took out the "phase" (eg: off-season, preseason, etc). It works.
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Tarrot, as I said, I hold no grudge against SC. It was a great multiplayer-strategic game, but doesn't surpass SSBM.

So, we are all done with school, right?

So...someone who likes SSBM better than SC is against Battle.net involvement? Wow.
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If you read my earlier posts, I do not object fanboism, and belligerent behavior. BNET and Korea surprised me, that is all. I think SSBM is a better game, but besides a simple argument, I have nothing else to back up my claim.

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Ah, okay then, that's fine...so why did you respond to Tarrot's post when it was clearly not directed at you, since you don't disapprove of Bnet spamming?
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I responded the Tarrot's 3rd paragraph. His 4th paragraph had little mention of BNET. Skimming through that paragraph, he mentioned that SC has a better single-player and multiplayer, which I have heard by many people, yet still disagree to.

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Okay, I just realized I read your post completely wrong...I thought the "So, we are all done with school, right?" was a slam to Tarrot when in fact it may actually have been a question. I need to stop assuming everyone is as hostile as I am...

...but still, your "SSBM is better" isn't much of a rebuttal and the other points were more important, like the fact that there wasn't much major objection to Bnet until after WW lost.
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"I need to stop assuming everyone is as hostile as I am..."

I'm as hostile as you are. I'm everybody important. Everybody is as hostile as you are :)
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Megalomaniac
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LOL

Anywho... it's not hostility, it's proactive defensiveness. Any attack on me, intended or not, will recieve a somewhat equal response. It's fair, because more often than not they are trying to be hostile towards me. Bastards. All of them.
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And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

man, you go out of town for one weekend and you sure do miss a lot............

This is the first result that truly disgusts me. I could accept The Legend of Zelda losing a close match...but this? This?


*raises fist triumphantly*

thank you. i never lost faith that SMB3 would not lost the 8-Bit Division. and now that my all-time favorite game FF6 is out and my bracket is shot, i'm behind SMB3 all the way, now!!!


Something else just occurred to me. It seems to me that having FFVII vs. OoT right before the Starcraft vs. SSBM match will be detrimental to Starcraft, as well, if the match (FFVII vs. OoT) is close. People will be worn out from that match and probably still talking about it, and Starcraft *needs* hype and excitement in order to win. If GameFAQs is too exhausted to drum up support, SC could very well lose without its huge nightly comeback.

ya know, the exact opposite may happen. after looking around at the board in the aftermath of Starcraft's ridiculous Battle.Net provided victory, all the hype is on SSBM vs, Starcraft. hardly anyone is talking about FF7 vs. OOT, which was the biggest match of the contest two months ago. Starcraft seems to be getting all the hype it needs right now. we'll see if Battle.Net can win this match, too, i guess.

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ya know, the exact opposite may happen. after looking around at the board in the aftermath of Starcraft's ridiculous Battle.Net provided victory, all the hype is on SSBM vs, Starcraft. hardly anyone is talking about FF7 vs. OOT, which was the biggest match of the contest two months ago. Starcraft seems to be getting all the hype it needs right now. we'll see if Battle.Net can win this match, too, i guess.

FFVII vs. OoT will have the spotlight shining on it once again on the day of the match if it turns out to be close. It does seem unfair that Starcraft is stealing the limelight from all other competitors, though. Still, it *is* the most interesting of the bunch, so we can't help but talk about it. If FFVII vs. OoT isn't very close (as in within 2000 votes throughout the day) then the opposite could happen and SSBM vs. Starcraft may be even more hyped because people would be disappointed at the anticlimax of FFVII vs. OoT.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr04b58.jpg

Love the ALttP side. ;) I wish it were mine there but hey its good nonetheless.
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Love the ALttP side. ;) I wish it were mine there but hey its good nonetheless.

I think CTs side is better, myself, but both are good.
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pic advantage = Chrono screaming with a sword

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I think ALttP has the picture advantage in that one to be honest, yes honest not biased. << The CT picture has some slight problems with it but overall good - both are good. Then you have ALttP coming off that horrid artwork from last round to have the majority of the game summed up into one picture. =P
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regardless of whether you think the artwork is better for lttp...ct's is more appealing to someone that doesn't know both games.

one side includes a number of game sprites clustered over a field.
one side includes a spiky-haired anime hero screaming with a sword.
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regardless of whether you think the artwork is better for lttp...ct's is more appealing to someone that doesn't know both games.

I doubt many people don`t know at least one of the games up there, but then again those who don`t would make up few votes. I find the ALttP picture to stand out much more than the CT picture, but hey thats just me. Its not like the picture is going to matter that much anyway with the games we`re seeing up there now.
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that's probably true.
i can't imagine the pictures influencing those voters that have played both games.
...or even one of the games, in most cases.
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Right now ALttP is managing 45% against CT and about 140 votes. With the morning/day vote to favor it completely this is definitely a match that is going to be close. Given CT`s terrible record during the daytime this is a match that is perfectly within ALttP`s grasp. Should be great.
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Whatever you have to tell yourself, HM. ;)

By the way, 40% predicted that Mario 3 would make the Final Four just for the record.
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Spring Contest 2004: 88/104
Today: (1)Chrono Trigger over (6)Link to the Past

That is quite the low number there too (40%).
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Anyone remember the % lead that FFIII had on LttP about an hour into their match?
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I think ALttP had around 46% during this point in the match, and FFVI had lesser lead than CT but again CT is harder so it should be expected.
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That is quite the low number there too (40%).

Well, there were 16 games. I think of them, Mario, FF, LoZ, Tetris, Metroid, and Metal Gear pulled in like 95% of the vote. LoZ probably had around 35%, FF with around 10%, and Tetris, Metroid, and Metal Gear pulled in around 10% combined. The rest of the joke nominations would equal the remaining 5%.

A Link to the Past is holding on very well right now managing to have gathered 46.20% right now and a down by 420 votes. This is looking extremely nice for the lead change come morning. Go ALttP!
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Starcraft spams bnet against WW, 3rd upset in a row, and all of a sudden hatred? Well, we certainly see where loyalties lie. Do one thing against The X-Box game or a Square-Disney game and it's ok, yet do it against a Zelda game and people are up in arms ready to kill the monster?

EXACTLY! I"m just going to re-post something I said in a topic I made here, cause it pretty much sums up what I think Starcraft has become on this site and why, and what will probably happen because of it.

"People just spam BNet to no end and BNet comes and saves Starcraft and blows Starcraft's opponents to little pieces with Mass Carriers and whatever else is in the game..it's atrocious.

You can't do that with WW. All Starcraft does is turn to BNet when it's in trouble and saves day..it's taking over the contest with BNet..

BNet is like the [.......] Powerpuff Girls or Super Milk-Chan

PowerPuff Girls: Save the [.......] mayor when he needs help since he can't help himself against anyone or anything..

Super Milk-Chan (look her up if you don't know who she is, I'll tell you right now that is a japanese anime): President always calls her cause he can't help himself against anyone or anything..

Bnet: Starcraft can't handle anyone or anything, so it has to call up BNet to save it's sorry ass...

Starcraft: Gahhh, WW is whooping my ass!!! Noo...this can't be...must..call..BNet..they're my only hope..*reaches for his phone and dials BNet*

BNet: BNet service. Who is this?

Starcraft: It's Starcraft!! Wind Waker is whooping my ass, and I don't think I can handle it myself!

BNet: Alright, help is on the way..

Then BNet blows Links to a quintillion pieces. -___-'

BNet always saves Starcraft's sorry ass...this is why Starcraft always wins.

You know what else? All three heroes always got something that makes you go: What the [....]?! Patheticness? Yeah..I think that qualifies. You got another term, then say what you think.

PowerPuff Girls: Toddlers. Whine about childish things. But when trouble comes, probably the most mature. But still, they get into such childish trouble..

Super Milk-Chan: Eh...um....I love cheesecake? Milk's explicity 5 years old (not just a generalization of "Toddler"), and I haven't actually seen a single episode since she's from a japanese anime series (DVD release in 7/06), But I'm uh quote, "Milk is a typical child TV star - she's petty, cranky, selfish, lazy, and most of all, full of herself!" - Anime Review site.

And if you think that wasn't enough...http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/2000-03-19/nty2kc_hideyuki_tanaka.jpg

http://www.ex.org/5.4/16-anime_milk.html

I'm done. I've made my review to bizarre for the kids now. : )

BNET: GahhhhH!!! The worst of them all!!! Full of [...........] Koreans. A community that loves Starcraft. Once Starcraft calls them in, Koreans go "After we done, Starcraft the win! :-)". You've gotta be kidding me..once Starcraft calls them in, they flood GameFAQs like wildfire and simply blow away Starcraft's opponents to pieces. It's the hero that I despise the most cause Starcraft cowards behind it like a scared little puppy. It's just pathetic. How can you like a hero like that?"

So..what do you think of my post? No really, It's all BNet now. They're becoming dictators now, helping Starcraft with a rock hard iron fist...and it's blowing away EVERYTHING in it's past. Halo, KH, WW...and is SSBM next? I sure hope not. : ( Some people say that BNet is the HOME for Starcraft fans. Oh man, that means BNet is always helping Starcraft no matter what. Now this tourament IS doomed!!!

...See what I mean?

And Heroic Mario? You're no help for fear reliving. : (




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Not a bad match by Mario 3, though it slowed down by the end of the poll.

And Chrono Trigger and LTTP are currently going at it like rams. CT currently has a 500 vote lead, and I don`t expect it to get much larger before this evening rolls around. The question is whether or not Chrono Trigger can hang onto this thing and win it with the late Square rally that it`s gotten in every other match it`s been in.
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I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

LOL, Crono's wearing a mud mask again. He did, too, during his first encounter with Mario, and we know where that led him...

EXTRAPOLATED RANKINGS FOR DIVISION 8

01. 50.00% - (1) Super Mario Bros. 3 [0]
02. 43.22% - (3) Legend of Zelda [+1]
03. 40.40% - (4) Final Fantasy [+1]
04. 24.20% - (12) Contra [+8]
05. 21.98% - (2) Tetris [-3]
06. 21.96% - (8) Metroid [+2]
07. 18.86% - (5) Phantasy Star [-2]
08. 17.70% - (16) Metal Gear [+8]
09. 13.83% - (9) Pac-Man [0]
10. 11.66% - (7) Pong [-3]
11. 11.20% - (6) Donkey Kong [-5]
12. 11.19% - (11) Duck Hunt [-1]
13. 09.99% - (13) Pitfall [0]
14. 09.56% - (14) Galaga [+1]
15. 07.46% - (10) River City Ransom [-5]
16. 04.15% - (14) Adventure [-2]

Numbers in brackets are the variation between the rank and the seed.

If there was no SFF in SMB3/Metroid, it would definitely have passed Contra and Tetris. I just can't believe either, especially Tetris, beating Metroid. Likewise, Pac-Man might also have jumped ahead of PS and Metal Gear. And if DK wasn't SFFed to hell and back too, it and Duck Hunt would most likely have passed Pac-Man, assuming he stays there. Oh well. I'll say it again, we just can't have perfect rankings in this contest.
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Actually at this point some gamefaqs bracket voters are most likely to vote SC even if it isn't in there bracket. They rather have a game where only 2% of the people got it right where something like 40% of the people get it right (example: SC vs. WW and maybe SC vs. FF VII/OoT)
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My Score 85/104 CT vs. LoZ: LttP

Slowflake, can I have permission to use those rankings on my PCA? You`ll be given full credit for them, of course.
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I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

And LttP is bringing that daytime magic right now. CT's lead is cut down to just under 300. At this rate, LttP should take the lead in just a couple hours.

Of course, had they used my CT pic, it would be up by at least 1000 ;)
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Spring Contest Score = STARCRAFT'D

I have suddenly become quite curious about the guru standings.
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I am very pleased by the result we are getting right now. Great match.
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Peeps of GameFAQ's! Heed my call as I beckon thee!
All of you who call this place a 2nd home! :) Well it's time for...the once again fully revised...

Steve Illumina Speaks

Indeed it is so, the legendary and ever humorous commentary spews forth from my quickly typing hands, to offer some funny and lighthearted yet well-honed levity, here on this the stats thread... the past, present and future bastion of proven intelligence on this overly fanboy dominated board.

And so it proceeds, with the FF fanboys finally flexing their collective nerdy muscle in the Golden Age Division

ROUND 4: Match LIX (59...)

(1)FFVII vs (2)Zelda Ocarina

Steve's Prediction: FFVII by 51.1%
Steve's Bracket: FFVII over Ocarina
No Way I'd Pick: Quest 64
Upset Chances: Nope...The overwhelming choice of bracketeers cannot and will not fall!

Comments: Well here we are, the match that will very likely be better than the final...the games that defined the Golden Age...they sold the most, they are loved the most, they are games that evolved their series and companies to new heights in creativity and gameplay. They are examples of what gaming is all about.

So many subplots here...If Trigger holds up as planned, and knocks off overachiever LTTP, Ocarina will be Link's final shot at reclaiming website glory. Sure it beat up popular Goldeneye and respected Mario 64 and cupcake Fallout 2. Sure it won with 70% margins...but hey, FF7 did too...

The FF fanboys, we know them and love them, and we need them now, more than ever. They have rallied all the groups they could, but even more are here now, thanks to massive fanboy spamming and posting through internet rallying and posts on other websites, taking a page from the StarCraft fanboy do-it-yourself manual "How to Win a Popularity Contest and Upset The Furies".

Editor's Note: This manual is available for download at bnet.com and scplanet.net, as well as for sale at game shops in Korea, Singapore, Laos, and Nauru.

So the FFVII fanboy cults stand in attention, carrying the colors of Jenova and salute: "Square Squad, Aeris' Army, Barret's Brigade, Tifa's Babes, International Brotherhood of Squaresoft, Vincent's Valentine Club, Highwinders, Shinra Union, Order of the Orange Chocobo, and the new groups Friends of Heidigger and the Red Herd" See, the fanboys continue to rally votes for the cause...

Why FFVII Will Advance: This game and its fanboys are what created the whole fanboy issue we all mock everyday. They will show their loyalty and the casuals will join them to defeat Nintendo's strongest tourney entry.

Why Zelda Wont Advance: Nintendrones will back it, but the casual RPG fanboy favors FF just a lil too much...

Probable Results: Best match of the Spring right here folks, at least to those who care about the purity of the contest and not about the happy go lucky bandwagon known as StarCraft.

More Quotes! "We're going to start the Neo Midgar Plan." -Pres. Shinra, "You don't get paid. You don't get praised." -Reeve, "Ghahahahah" -Heidigger, "Junk materia from junk reactors" -Scarlet, "I saw him with my own eyes!" -Palmer "Old man tried to control the world with money...seems to have been working." -Rufus
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SCK24: 84/104 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years

^ No Sephiroth quotes = instant phailure at life

No...no, I'm not a Sephiroth fangirl...stop looking at me like that! I've only got 59 pictures of him in a folder labeled "Sephiroth"...that's all...>_>

And no, I have *not* watched his scene in the Advent Children trailer 41 times.
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If you take all of the contraversy into account then the rankings probably look more like this:

1.Super Mario Bros. 3(1)(0)
2.The Legend of Zelda(3)(+1)
3.Final Fantasy(4)(+1)
4.Metroid(8)(+4)
5.Tetris(2)(-3)
6.Contra(12)(+6)
7.Donkey Kong(6)(-1)
8.Duck Hunt(11)(+3)
9.Pac-Man(9)(0)
10.Metal Gear(16)(+6)
11.Pong(7)(-4)
12.Galaga(15)(+3)
13.Phantasy Star(5)(-8)
14.River City Ransom(10)(-4)
15.Pitfall!(13)(-2)
16.Adventure(14)(-2)

Chrono Trigger has a lead of 55 right now, we should see a l ead change sometime in the day.
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Do whatever the hell you want with them, Ulti. And anyone else interested, too.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 089/104 --- Matches: 49/57 --- Rank: 00468/40940 --- Today's pick: SMB3

LttP takes the lead... CT still have a chance?
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Contest: 91/104; Division 128 absolutely pwned me... Perfect Division 8!

this is an epic match - two heavyweights slugging it out toe to toe all day.

Wow, this is good...
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Spring Contest Score = STARCRAFT'D

A Link to the Past took the lead for a brief moment and now they are deadlocked. Great, great match.
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Solar... get a new topic ready. With LttP now up by over 20, CT better keep it within 300 for the next 6 hours, or else it is done...
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Contest: 91/104; Division 128 absolutely pwned me... Perfect Division 8!

ya solar - do your magic!

I can see ALttP breaking away with the day vote.
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