That topic took 3 days to fill up. Slowing down, are we?

Okay Ulti, you got the 500th post without anyone stealing your fun this time. Now are ya happy? ;)

Stats websites:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html
Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

Stats topics:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)
2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.
Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm
Spring 2004 Contest:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats3.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats4.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats5.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats6.htm
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=14249707 (Until purge)

Oracle Standings:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/oracle.html

Im first!
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They got married and she took his last name. Her maiden name is Ballmuncher. Good move on her part. - C Bar Nova on Mrs. Pacman

HA HA!!

The grumble cakes are mine!!
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They got married and she took his last name. Her maiden name is Ballmuncher. Good move on her part. - C Bar Nova on Mrs. Pacman

It was a 0 topic!

This is a super special discussion topic.
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Mega Man in the Summer Contest '04? You better believe it!

Hehe.
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Nintendo® - We Make Games Worth Playing
Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

FFVII meeting expectations of 68-72% nicely. Though my prediction of 68.5% has well been passed.
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Nintendo® - We Make Games Worth Playing
Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

Final Fantasy VII ought to hit 71% within the next hour or so. It just keeps climbing.
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Spring Contest 2004: 68/80
Today: (1)Final Fantasy VII over (4)Metal Gear Solid

Metal Gear Solid didn't deserve this beating.

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He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever.
Shin: A device for finding furniture in the dark.

It has been stuck around 70.90-.93% for a while now.
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Nintendo® - We Make Games Worth Playing
Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

Just hit 70.94, heh.
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Spring Contest 2004: 68/80
Today: (1)Final Fantasy VII over (4)Metal Gear Solid

Metal Gear Solid didn't deserve this beating.

Of course not... it didn't deserve to face FF VII either. Still, this isn't a total massacre, so MGS can still hold its disks up high and with semi-pride. Besides, it's FF VII. Nothing short of OoT can be reasonably considered to take it down.
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Smart Ask! National Champion (2003)
www.rpgdl.com

Back down again. ;)
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Nintendo® - We Make Games Worth Playing
Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

Time for another... TNotez Take:

I keep posting these things earlier and earlier; but then again the matches are not close, so waiting until it ends serves no purpose. Currently around 71%, FFVII outperformed the GunPoint, but was still right around the area I assumed it would gather against MGS. OoT will need a good 75+% against GoldenEye for me to consider it a threat to Cloud and Co. Anything under 70%, and it is goodbye Zelda, hello top 50 again for Da Note. Anything over 80% and I think I will cry, in addition to conceding Zelda that spot in the final four. So what do I think will happen...

GunPoint Prediction: Ocarina of Time with 74%

Yeah, that feels right. I think MGS would defeat GoldenEye will at least 55%, so for OoT to gain 2-3% more than FFVII is logical. This, of course, setting up the ultimate battle that will just reek havoc on all our brackets. Again, I would like to congratulate those of you either in or on the outskirts of the "money," and I would like to pat myself on the back for creeping back into the top 50 (though I do not get name recognition, I will survive). If I would have followed the BOP like I promised myself I would, I would be tied for 4th with the other Starcraft-underestimaters, but instead I was allured by the wiles of Vice City, like that ugly ex-girlfriend you keep going back to. Damn you Vice City, and damn you ugly ex-girlfriends!
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Contest: 75/80; Sould be tied for 4th if I went with SSBM like I should have...

I have the 500th post twice in a row now. I`m a happy guy, save for the fact that this little ***** in Madden 2004 did nothing but run the ball and the clock the entire game. Wound up beating me by 3 points, and frankly, idiots like him shouldn`t be allowed to own the game. They have no skill whatsoever.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Tag
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Rank: tied for 2037th

Final Fantasy VII 71% 41901
Metal Gear Solid 29% 17118
TOTAL VOTES 59018

And there it is, 71%.
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Spring Contest 2004: 68/80
Today: (1)Final Fantasy VII over (4)Metal Gear Solid

Wasn`t it up to 71.15% earlier in the day?
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

I predicted 71.5% in the Oracle Challenge, which originally seemed a bit high, but its looking alright for now. I don't think FFVII will hit it, though.
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Mega Man in the Summer Contest '04? You better believe it!

The highest FFVII has been at it 71.11% and it just dipped back under 71%. =P
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Nintendo® - We Make Games Worth Playing
Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

71.01% and still climbing. Is it too late to join in on the premature celebration party that all of you Link to the Past fans have thrown? ;)
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Spring Contest 2004: 68/80
Today: (1)Final Fantasy VII over (4)Metal Gear Solid

I predicted 71.5% in the Oracle Challenge, which originally seemed a bit high, but its looking alright for now. I don't think FFVII will hit it, though.

Heh, I picked 71.09% without any second though. I've been pretty good in Oracle this round in matches NOT involving a Zelda game.

FF7 seems to be hovering around the 71% mark. Fine with me. That number against Metal Gear Solid is absolutely insane.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

I`m looking forward to see Ocarina of Time put its own insane numbers up tomorrow. ;)
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Nintendo® - We Make Games Worth Playing
Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

Ocarina of Time is expected to get high numbers against GoldenEye, the 2nd weakest of the Sweet Sixteen (next to Tetris). However, Final Fantasy VII is at 71.12% and comin' on strong.
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Spring Contest 2004: 68/80
Today: (1)Final Fantasy VII over (4)Metal Gear Solid

Who in the world didn`t expect this to happen today? It is impressive no doubt, but going by the Oracle Challenge these numbers aren`t exceeding expectations to much.
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Nintendo® - We Make Games Worth Playing
Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

Apparently, you didn't. You had FFVII under 70%.
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Spring Contest 2004: 68/80
Today: (1)Final Fantasy VII over (4)Metal Gear Solid

The Oracle challenge having high predictions doesn`t make this beating any less surprising to be honest.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Ocarina of Time is expected to get high numbers against GoldenEye, the 2nd weakest of the Sweet Sixteen (next to Tetris

Goldeneye would have to get much less than 25% in order for me to think it was weaker than Tetris. Ocarina of Time is a significantly stronger opponent that The Legend of Zelda.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

Its exceeding my prediction by about 3% right now, and yes this is impressive but I can`t say I`m shocked by it getting this much. After MGS vs. FFT this was definitely going to happen.
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Nintendo® - We Make Games Worth Playing
Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

The Oracle challenge having high predictions doesn`t make this beating any less surprising to be honest.

Why? I don't get how that could be.

This is right about what people expected, so it cannot be a surprise.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

Hey Tai, do you want to bet accounts that we aren`t getting an all-Zelda Final Four? Not saying I will, I`m just curious.

Lol....uh....what do you mean? This is the only account I have..uh..what do you mean bet our accounts? You mean if there's an all-Zelda Final Four I get your account?! :D
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Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai.

He means he will close his high karma account if it is an all zelda final 4 and u will close yours if it is not!
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years

Yep, steve has it right.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

course i dont see Ulti closing it...

My bracket calls for all the Zelda's to fall next round, but anything can happen...
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years

Match #51 Review:

CT had a stronger showing than most anticipated, which means that...

Match #52 Review:

...LttP has shown a chink in its armor. There's one of two conclusions that we can draw from this match:

1. LttP is simply weaker than expected, and its high percentage against Super Metroid was simply the result of a match riddled with SFF.

2. FFVI is much closer to Chrono Trigger than most of us had previously thought; Mortal Kombat and Doom are no jokes as opponents.

Nobody here seems to be acknowledging #2, but I can't blame 'em: coupled with CT's manhandling of SMW, LttP's performance just doesn't look all that great. I do, however, think that #2 is still a distinct possibility, which is why I can't completely discount LttP until it's actually lost.

Match #54 Preview:

The last yawner of the contest is right here, folks...from here on, it's nine days of sheer chaos. Alright!
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

He means he will close his high karma account if it is an all zelda final 4 and u will close yours if it is not!

Like I said..this is the only account I have...

Even if it wasn't...no, I don't think so. I'd rather account suicide. >_> lol
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Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai.

I wouldn`t actually bet accounts with you, silly. You`re fun to have around ~_^
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Tai, you`re saying that you would account suicide instead of closing your account should you actually lose a bet with someone?
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

The last yawner of the contest is right here, folks...from here on, it's nine days of sheer chaos. Alright!

i concur with Phediuk!! bring on the chaos!!

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Current Score: *ripped up bracket*
cyko's 256 Game Contest: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=14285047

Okay, so we all believe WW will win, but am I the only one who thinks it can deliver an ass-kicking so large the board will look like a Mario/Crono aftermath, like 60-40?

Someone said today's match could be FF7/FFT without SFF... that's exactly what's happening. Turns out I wasn't underestimating FFT, but overestimating MGS. It's going to be good, how MGS and MGS2 stack up against each other in the end. Unless we have a OoT/WW or FF7/FF10 stinker.

In other news, I'll put up a topic soon with my pseudo-SC2K4 bracket for all to see, especially those who didn't see it last fall. And even if you DID see it, I suggest you take a look anyway... I've moved a few characters around, especially the lower seeds, and replaced three characters.

I've been thinking about my pseudo-SpC2K5 for a while now... I hope I can make some interesting setups. Of course, a lot of it will depend on how Starcraft will do on Saturday.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 073/080 --- Matches: 46/52 --- Rank: 00205/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7

i'm still not quite sure what to expect from Wind Waker tomorrow. LTTP got 74% against a Metroid game while Wind Waker only scored 55% against a Metroid game. now, Metroid Prime might be the more popular game in the series, but i doubt that it's a ful 20% of the vote stronger thain Super Metroid. that means that most likely, Wind Waker really is a weaker Zelda game than the others.

therefore, i'm under the impression that Wind Waker will score closer to 54 or 55% against Starcraft. that, and i have a hard time believing that Starcraft, Halo, Soul Calibur, AND Kingdom Hearts are ALL that weak. but who knows; maybe they all are that weak. this division has been so screwy that Saturday might roll around and surprise us with a 60/40 match in favor of Wind Waker or possibly in favor Starcraft.

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Current Score: *ripped up bracket*
cyko's 256 Game Contest: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=14285047

*sigh* How obsessed have you guys gotten? Talking about changes in percentages all day long, and your picks for the Oracle Challenge? There are way too many messages that just clutter this topic... I want the old Stats/Discussion back. :[ Oh, and it doesn't matter whether FF7 gets 70%, or 71%, or 72%...you still won't be able to predict exactly how it will do next round, anyway.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

I too am of the opinion that these couple matches don't tell us much. The only thing we learned today is that the Final Fantasy name isn't enough to get you near Final Fantasy VII's level, which we knew already.

Tomorrow's match won't tell us much either, unless Ocarina of Time somehow gets less than 67%, or more than say 77%. Anything oustide of that and it tells us more about Goldeneye than about Ocarina of Time.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

Ah, notice how there hasn't been a 50/50 match so far this round. Maybe SSBM vs. FFX will be it. Come on, SSBM!

I know, I know...maybe I shouldn't have wasted a message complaining about how things are.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Just a thought.

You know how Prime and Vice City almost tied for 2002 GOTY? Integrating that in the rankings would give SSBM a sure loss against Wind Waker, UNLESS Prime lost ground to Vice since then, which I don't see happening.

Of course, we all know the real value of old polls... but hey, it's better than nothing, I'm just throwing ideas around.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 073/080 --- Matches: 46/52 --- Rank: 00205/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7

Meh, you're right. I say it's a little strange how GTA3 was voted GotY here in 2001, over FFX, MGS2, SSBM, and Halo, yet GTA:VC doesn't even quite beat Metroid Prime. Maybe this could be a sign of weakness for FFX, as well as SSBM, though. Could you provide the URL to that poll for both '01 and '02 GotY polls, perhaps, Slowflake?

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Actually, GTA3 barely beat SSBM for the runner-up spot, but both got slaugtered by FF10.

GotY 2002: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1133
GotY 2001: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=776
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 073/080 --- Matches: 46/52 --- Rank: 00205/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7

Ah, my mistake. I must've gotten mixed up with EGM or something. FF games dominate in those polls. o_O Well, since that all makes sense now...I guess I won't try to assume anything now. I still have hope in SSBM...


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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Integrating that in the rankings would give SSBM a sure loss against Wind Waker

You mean that assuming MP and VC as equals, and WW as superior to the two, that WW would beat SSBM? Makes enough sense.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

I`ll be in bed soon, but I have a question I`d like to see an answer to when I awaken later. What percentage does OOT need against Goldeneye to be considered the favorite against FF7?
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf