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Contest Stats & Discussion - Part 19
From: andaca | Posted: 5/26/2004 4:35:40 PM | Message Detail
From the start of the match up until now ALttP has managed to gain 7.56%.

I think a better indication of the change LttP has managed to pull would be if you started an hour after the poll started - by that time the initial randomness of a few stray votes has less weight, and the poll has usually settled into the pattern it will hold for the night.

Course, that would still give LttP a 4.68% increase, which isnt bad by any standards.
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SP2k4C : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Seijun | Posted: 5/26/2004 4:36:41 PM | Message Detail
Gee Edter, with all that repenting you keep on spouting, you should become a minister and molest little boys, or something ^^;

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/26/2004 4:38:00 PM | Message Detail
Seijun, will you marry me? I'm ten times better than Gun Mage, at least. And 5 times better than Shake posing as a Lesbian!
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From: cyko | Posted: 5/26/2004 5:21:31 PM | Message Detail
whoa! that's a lotta arguing going on. well, here's what i have to say.

first of all, i kinda figured that LTTP was gonna get the daytime vote over FF6, but i was still hoping that FF6 could hang in there. in fact, FF6 might decrease the lead a little with the night vote, but it still won't be enough for a comeback. =/

but, at least FF6 stood tall and kept it close like some of us said it would. ^_^

however, just like i wasn't counting FF6 out, i am not gonna count LTTP out against Chrono Trigger yet, either. all three of these games have proven they have a huge following and it might be possible that FF6 is equal to or even a little more popular than CT because of the Final Fantasy name. it's also possible that CT is wildly more popular than FF6; but i can't see either game breaking 55% next round. CT vs. LTTP will be just as close as today's match. i'm giving the slight edge to Chrono Trigger, but only because that's what my bracket says. =P

and as far as FF7 vs. OOT goes, i still think that match is as predictable as a coin flip right now. today's match may have been a perfect example of franchise vs. franchise; or FF7 might be more popular than FF6 by more than OOT is more popular than LttP. we honestly don't know and won't know until next Wednesday.

the one thing i think we can be certain of, though, is that the 16-Bit Division Winner is cruising to the Final Match. i'm pretty sure that SMB3 could get more votes than Super Mario World, but i don't think SMB3 could make up the 9% of total votes it would have to pick up. even if SMB3 made up as much ground from SMW as what SMW gained from what SMRPG did (which i really don't think SMB3 and SMW are different enough for SMB3 to improve that much.), that would still only be 8% of the total vote, which is a little short.

so basically, i really can't see SMB3 beating Chrono Trigger after how badly CT beat SMW. and if LTTP beats CT, then that puts it even higher than SMW than CT is.
therefore, the 16-Bit Winner will beat the 8-Bit Winner.

oh, and finally, i would've predicted Secret of Mana over Sonic 2. i also liked Secret of Mana far more than Sonic 2. those two games don't even compare. but then again, Secret of Mana is my third favorite game of this era, only behind Final Fantasy 6 and Super Mario Kart.

and, hey - speaking of Mario Kart, i am still shocked that no Mario Kart game made this contest. all four games of that series were amazing, although the original is still my favorite.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/26/2004 5:26:54 PM | Message Detail
"but, at least FF6 stood tall and kept it close like some of us said it would."

Yup.

"the one thing i think we can be certain of, though, is that the 16-Bit Division Winner is cruising to the Final Match."

I don't think we can even be certain of that at this point.

"i would've predicted Secret of Mana over Sonic 2."

Me too, though it'd have been a tough pick, and still no clear winner thanks to the possibility of heavy SFF interaction.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/26/2004 6:39:49 PM | Message Detail
I went ahead and gave my little shot at making a match picture since CJayC posted that information here is what I have come up with:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7466/ALttP.gif

The one glaring problem is the logo. =P Gotta fix it.
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From: nh82 | Posted: 5/26/2004 6:49:24 PM | Message Detail
Well, LttP has just crossed the 53% mark and shows no signs of slowing. If I remember rightly 53-55% was the general consensus (or at least the people that shouted the loudest!) of what LttP needs to challenge CT, the assumption being that FF6>SMW.

If LttP continues at this rate it may post a decent 54% or so, in which case I agree with cyko - it's far too early to call the final. Yet more excitement :D

That match will tear me up though - I've got CT in my bracket, but I think LttP is the far superior game... so I'm hoping that either I've unexpectedly bombed elsewhere by then and no longer care about my bracket, or I'll just have to cheer for the wrong side. Shame.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/26/2004 6:51:29 PM | Message Detail
I will agree that ALttP should gained enough for me to have a rise of confidence, not like last night but more than earlier. It looks like it`s going to be one crazy Elite 8 match, and two back to back matches. CT vs. ALttP and FFVII vs. OoT.

Round 4 needs to hurry up and start.
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From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 5/26/2004 7:01:00 PM | Message Detail
We just need to skip division 32/64 for this round. Such predictable, boring blowouts.
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Spring Contest 2004: 64/76
Today: (6)Link to the Past over (2)Final Fantasy VI
From: smitelf | Posted: 5/26/2004 7:10:27 PM | Message Detail
DENTAL PLAN!

Oh, err...just ignore that.

I second the motion to skip the third round in Division 32/64. We all know it will come down to FFVII vs. OoT so why waste a good 48 hours? Let's just move on to Wind Waker vs. Starcraft. Sure, it may be pretty clear which game will win there, too, but there's a chance that the picture will involve carriers, so we can't skip it.
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 5/26/2004 7:22:43 PM | Message Detail
Sheesh... a guy goes to work for 8 hours and comes back to 200 more messages!?! Sheesh... well, time for another... TNotez Take:

With five hours to go, says here the GunPoint prediction is less than .1% off... mmm should have started this sooner. Now I think it will end closer to 52.5% (given FFVI seems to take the "night" vote), but in any case, I will deem Chrono Trigger the slight favorite over Zelda, if you are reading this spread creators, perhaps a 5% line in favor of CT. I will dissect this match further in a few days when it comes up, but for now it is all about FFVII, which in nine days will become my new favorite FF game. Everyone knows FFVII>FFT, and since MGS=FFT (38 votes is good enough for equals for me), it means FFVII will win this match. Now the only thing left in question is by how much...

GunPoint Prediction: FFVII with 68%

To some this may seem high, to others it may seem low, but to me it seems just about right. After putting up around 80% in the first two rounds, MGS will prove to be a more formidable opponent, but not by much. Anything under 60% and OoT will take this division. Without seeing how OoT performs, I cannot say what it needs to take this division, however anything over 70% will have me sold on FFVII dancing in the final four. Over 75%... just name it the Best. Game. Ever. Now.
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Contest: 75/80; I miss being in tied for 17th place... =(
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/26/2004 7:39:01 PM | Message Detail
Good God! So many arguments and posts to read. Wow...And I was only gone 5 hours! You are all so damn cool and amazing and entertaining. Its great to be a part of it.

Some random comments:

Well since peeps are admitting to fanboyism, I will confess, I am a Mortal Kombat fanboy. I tried to hide it in the name of objective satirical commentary earlier in the tourney, but since MK has been eliminated already, I guess I figure, why not confess the obvious.

Cyko: i agree...Mario Kart's spot was stolen by the likes of Gunstar Heroes and Earthbound. I also think Mana would beat Sonic 2. And dont even get me going on Punch Out...its spot taken by lame-o Pitfall or Adventure...

Fellow Elites, don't be surprised this year if Sonic dont make the Sweet 16...his shining star has really fallen to a high 3rd tier status in my view. He will only make it that far if he has to face bums like DK and Wario. Sega needs to scrap the 3d and make a good deep 2d platformer like the days of old but retain the addicting gameplay of the Genesis classics. Otherwise, he will end up like Crash and Spyro and Lara... If the Blue Blur flops this summer like a Denny's pancake, you heard it here first.

The "Golden Era" (32/64) Division is the only one the #1 and #2 seeds both survived to face each other in during the Elite Eight...And they got there with ease...

I like Ceej's fanart contest pic submitting idea. Too bad I got no talent in art...I can write, but I cant draw a curvy stick figure ... I am that bad! I expect we will see some great stuff starting with Mario 3 vs Zelda 1

And finally, I will concede FFVI's defeat at the hands of Zelda LTTP...and I will not concede that the better game won. It didn't.

Tune in tomorrow for Ocarina/Goldeneye commentary!
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From: Tai | Posted: 5/26/2004 7:54:05 PM | Message Detail
Why WW will beat Starcraft.

Because the fanboys have finally gotten pissed off at Starcraft. They are all raising their big finger (that's the middle one) to Starcraft, and soon, hope to raise it's head on a flag pole to show everyone just how vicious WW is.

It will happen..yes..all the Halo and KH and WW fanboys will unite to take down Starcraft, and bring peace to the contest once more before the nailibiting Elite 8. (No wait we're already in chaos with FF7...n/m..)

WW's got fanbase. This is a Zelda game man. [....] Halo. It was just the only game on XBox that people liked. Wooooo big deal. [....] KH and it's disney characters. The anti-kiddy vote pwned KH against Starcraft...no, no..I am not talking non-sense..stop looking at me like that XD. I believe that with no regrets. But Wind Waker man...WIND WAKER!! It's a ZELDA game for crying out loud! There could be an all-Zelda Final Four!! Zelda's one of the best franchises ever on GameFAQs, only matched by Final Fantasy. And the franchise as a new trailer which made many little boys and girls smile and cheer.

And what I'm hearing from few people in this topic is that division 128 is a very weak, meaning it's up in the air who could come out of that. But Wind Waker's too strong a game for Starcraft to lose too. Halo was overrated, and I question if KH was really strong at all or would get the anti-kiddy vote from having Disney characters...guess it did.

WW has none of that. WW wins. Thank you. :-)

See you on Saturday as we all watch WW take down the mass carriers.

I hope....
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/26/2004 8:05:04 PM | Message Detail
and I will not concede that the better game won. It didn't.

Sure it did. =)
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/26/2004 8:19:33 PM | Message Detail
therefore, the 16-Bit Winner will beat the 8-Bit Winner.

I would only agree with the above statement is if only LttP won the 16 bit division. SMB3 vs. CT will be like Mario vs. Crono. If you don't believe me then wait for the match so I can prove to you like I did about MGS vs. FFT and todays match (though I thought it would be closer)
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My Score 69/76 FF III/VI vs. LoZ: LttP
From: Tai | Posted: 5/26/2004 8:20:13 PM | Message Detail
and I will not concede that the better game won. It didn't.

That's nice. Don't need to be so sore about your favorite game losing. :-)


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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/26/2004 8:42:08 PM | Message Detail
tomorrow will be like FF VII vs. FFT without the SFF don't you people think?

My prediction: If FF VII gets lower then 66% then OoT has a really chance of winning unless it does really bad against Goldeneye in it's match. I think FF VII will get above 70% because FFX got 66% against FFTA and...

FFVII > FFX
FFTA > FFT
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My Score 69/76 FF III/VI vs. LoZ: LttP
From: tnote827 | Posted: 5/26/2004 8:46:01 PM | Message Detail
Charmander: I am fine with the first half of your substitution, however the second half is more personal opinion than common knowledge. I do agree with your rationale, however, and that is a start. I think FFVII is significantly more popular than FFX, and as a result however you look at FFTA in relation to FFT, it is no more than a 5-10% swing either way, so 66% seems just about right. However, 68% seems even more right... <shameless promoting of Tnotez Take and the GunPoint Prediction> =)
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Contest: 71/76; I miss being in tied for 17th place... =(
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/26/2004 8:58:41 PM | Message Detail
Hmwell, just skimmed quickly over the 150 or so posts that were posted while I was at work, nothing of interest except people jumping at Chichiri yet again. And Super Mario Kart... then again, I already picked the 64 games I'd put in my bracket, and I can't honestly say any of them deserves to go in favor of SMK, keeping into account the FIVE Mario games, plus SSBM.

LttP with just under 53%... still not enough. I think the only chance it has is if CT suffers from Yoshi syndrome - not as strong in contests as in the polls.

Looks like my bracket depends mostly on SMB3 and WW winning their divisions - if they do, I have a chance at the leaderboard, and I'll have the guru consensus and the BOP one-upped with WW in the Final 4. The most hilarious thing about this match is, it tends to show that the top dogs are exactly where I called them... before the contest began. This implies serious misestimations of the lesser contenders.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 069/076 --- Matches: 45/51 --- Rank: 00372/40940 --- Today's pick: LttP
From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 5/26/2004 10:37:30 PM | Message Detail
Well, looks like this is going to be the first match since FFT-MGS to break 80,000. I miss the days when a match like this was a lock to break 100,000.
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Spring Contest 2004: 64/76
Today: (6)Link to the Past over (2)Final Fantasy VI
From: JaKyL25 | Posted: 5/26/2004 10:50:31 PM | Message Detail
tomorrow will be like FF VII vs. FFT without the SFF don't you people think?

Maybe, but not necessarily.

I would have voted FFVII over FFT. I will vote MGS tomorrow.
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From: redline15 | Posted: 5/26/2004 10:52:55 PM | Message Detail
hmm...

i can no longer say i am happy with the results.

when lttp was scoring 51%, ff6 looked exceptionally good...and chrono trigger almost looked like a lock for the next round.
but the difference is now greater than 5%.
kingdom hearts, instead of halo.

can chrono trigger really make up a 5% difference?

we will know in a week...
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/26/2004 10:54:05 PM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr04b53.jpg

I like that picture. =)
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:10:00 AM | Message Detail
Heh. The match that all but dooms my bracket is the one that finally got me into the top 50.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:11:00 AM | Message Detail
Good to see you up there TRE. =)
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:13:59 AM | Message Detail
Thanks, Heroic Mario.
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From: Starion | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:14:24 AM | Message Detail
Less than 40% expected LTTP to get this far. I knew people were underestimating it. That could explain the optimism people have for LTTP-CT*.

*Doesn't apply to people in this thread.
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From: Sir Chris | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:15:09 AM | Message Detail
*whistles*

onl a few hundred are left for my goal..

>_>
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From: nh82 | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:24:52 AM | Message Detail
hey, i'm in the top 200, only one point off the leaderboard :D

and I see Ulti has moved up to 6th place! Thrilled?

Unfortunately I can't see anyone near the top getting either of these 32/64 matches wrong, we'll probably be static until WW/SC, though the 'expert' consensus there will be so highly in favour of WW only if SC wins will anyone benefit.

Round 4 is now more of a coin flip than ever... I wouldn't like to call any of the first three matches, and I wouldn't even like to guess at who will be in the fourth. Exciting times!
From: Tarrot | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:27:15 AM | Message Detail
Nearly 70-30 to start. Has a good chance of being 75-25 at the end of the poll. I think we have a new favorite, again.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:28:26 AM | Message Detail
SMB3 vs. LoZ, CT vs. ALttP, FFVII vs. OoT, WW vs. FFX. We are in for one crazy ride in the Elite 8 with close matches.

MGS seems to be doing well right now, nothing that is threatening, managing to keep FFVII around 68% but FFVII`s lead is 616 and rising.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:31:16 AM | Message Detail
Nearly 70-30 to start. Has a good chance of being 75-25 at the end of the poll. I think we have a new favorite, again.


68% right now and I don`t think FFVII will be getting as much as 7% from this point though over 70% is looking likely. As for the favorite, it was that before the start of the match and I don`t think it should be put any further ahead because of this match. 68-72% seemed to be an expected percentage for it, and its meeting expectations nicely. Tomorrow for OoT I expect a 72%+ victory considering how GoldenEye is weaker than MGS and you know... the wonderful match picture:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr04b54.jpg

Heh.

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From: Starion | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:33:10 AM | Message Detail
You seem to know about these things, HM. How did FF7 and MGS do in the infamous day vote?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:36:46 AM | Message Detail
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:39:12 AM | Message Detail
There is no doubt from me it is going to favor FFVII. In the past two matches I believe FFVII has increased by 2% or so over the day while in the most recent match for MGS it failed to increase at all and fell a few percentages during the day.

Final Fantasy VII should go over 70% tomorrow morning.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 5/27/2004 1:23:27 AM | Message Detail
Major shakeups on the Guru Scoreboard, thanks to Lttp! But first, let me bold up the 4 Gurus currently on the total Top 50!

1 Saitou7777 80 Super Mario Bros. 3
2 willyman76 78 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
3 SlangEdter41 78 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
4 LordOfDabu 77 Chrono Trigger
5 alpha door 77 Final Fantasy VII
6 UltimaterializerX 77 Final Fantasy VII
7 FrostHarpy 77 Chrono Trigger
8 PepeCamello 77 Final Fantasy VII
9 usefulidiot 77 Final Fantasy VII
10 SSJGasSnake 77 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
11 Kirin17 77 Final Fantasy VII
12 Delpheous2003 77 Final Fantasy VII
13 Aprosenf 77 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14 Dralor 77 Final Fantasy VII
15 Vortyx 77 Final Fantasy VII
16 Sins Tox1n 77 Final Fantasy VII
17 TrunksMagusDante 76 Final Fantasy VII
18 Ngamer64 76 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
19 MedigoUltima 76 Final Fantasy VII
20 Turbo Kirby 76 Super Mario Bros. 3
21 irriadin 76 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
22 Relm Arrowny 76 Final Fantasy VII
23 Silverflame 76 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
24 gonf 76 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
25 Thievius Gamerus 76 Final Fantasy VII
26 yoblazer33 76 Final Fantasy VII
27 MMSbballplaya53 76 Final Fantasy VII
28 Ethersoul 76 Final Fantasy VII
29 Mithrandir1331 76 Final Fantasy VII
30 ShinigamiDuo 76 Super Smash Bros. Melee
31 TRE Public Account 76 Final Fantasy VII
32 insignificant other 76 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
33 rdonovan 76 Final Fantasy VII
34 The Return 76 Final Fantasy VII
35 hagankefs 76 Final Fantasy VII
36 bobby1986 76 Final Fantasy VII
37 Shadow Doom Blaze 76 Final Fantasy VII
38 DarkMagus333 76 Final Fantasy VII
39 iased 76 Final Fantasy VII
40 ZerosGhost 76 Final Fantasy VII
41 wkarrde 76 Final Fantasy VII
42 Holy Excalibur 76 Final Fantasy VII
43 bobiscool138 76 Chrono Trigger
44 BiggerCow 76 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
45 cloudstrife76548 75 Final Fantasy VII
46 Burglecut 75 Final Fantasy VII
47 Team Rocket Elite 75 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
48 Forceful Dragon 75 Final Fantasy VII
49 EvilNcr 75 Final Fantasy VII
50 Inker 75 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Too bad we lost Bananaquest, otherwise we would have owned a full 1/10th of the official leaderboard. Fortunately, we have 2 more Gurus sitting pretty at 75 points, just about to join push us up to an all-time high of 6. Speaking of which, let's find out who they are.

The Guru Scoreboard

1st UltimaterializerX 77
2nd Ngamer 76
3rd Ncrdrg 75
3rd Shake 75
3rd Team Rocket Elite 75
3rd Xuxon 75
7th IMAP 74
7th King Morgoth 74
7th StopPokingMe 74
7th red sox 777 74
7th nh82 74
7th FastFalcon 74
7th swirldude 74
7th Yesmar 74
7th creativename 74
16th Bananaquest 73
16th Sephirot 73
16th Haste2 73
16th Starion 73
16th Heroic Mario 73
16th solarshadow 73
22nd Sir Chris 72
23rd smitelf 71
23rd neoatomtaco 71
25th cyko 69
25th Z1mZum 69
25th charmander 69
28th torey luvullo 67
29th ChichiriMuyo 66
29th DomaDragoon 66
31st Ringworm 65

And, wow, is the discrepancy between us and the rest of the site ever growing all of a sudden.

Average Expert Score: 73.32
Average GameFAQs Score: 54.97

Go us!

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From: jonthomson | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:46:15 AM | Message Detail
Average GameFAQs Score: 54.97

Yay, I'm still above average! Shame I've already lost three of my elite 8 and one of my final four...
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 3:58:41 AM | Message Detail
These topics are fun. And LTTP actually wound up finishing worse than I expected. The way it was charging upwards made me think that it was going to win with 53-54% of the vote. I`m not so sure if that`s good enough to beat Chrono Trigger (only a shade less strong than FF7 on this site), but we shall see. I`m not calling anything other than how close this match will be in a few days.

And yay, I`m #6! How many of the people with 77 points have SSBM in the Final Four?

Oh, and I think FF7 will finish with around 68.5% of the vote. Just a random hunch. And don`t go crazy when OOT whips Goldeneye with 75% tomorrow, either. Metal Gear Solid would undoubtedly kill Goldeneye in a poll. What you need to look at is that Final Fantasy Tactics may very well be ahead of Final Fantasy 6 in strength, ot at least just behind it, if we threw it into the numbered series. And assuming that FFT and MGS are even, this match should tell you guys just how strong FF7 really is right now. It will be hell in the divisional finals next wekk, I promise.
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From: Tai | Posted: 5/27/2004 4:15:31 AM | Message Detail
It will be hell in the divisional finals next wekk, I promise.

I knew that since Day one. :-)

Does anyone agree wit' my point about why WW should beat Starcraft? O_o'

Uh..if you didn't notice it..I'll say it again..

Why WW will beat Starcraft.

Because the fanboys have finally gotten pissed off at Starcraft. They are all raising their big finger (that's the middle one) to Starcraft, and soon, hope to raise it's head on a flag pole to show everyone just how vicious WW is.

It will happen..yes..all the Halo and KH and WW fanboys will unite to take down Starcraft, and bring peace to the contest once more before the nailibiting Elite 8. (No wait we're already in chaos with FF7...n/m..)

WW's got fanbase. This is a Zelda game man. [....] Halo. It was just the only game on XBox that people liked. Wooooo big deal. [....] KH and it's disney characters. The anti-kiddy vote pwned KH against Starcraft...no, no..I am not talking non-sense..stop looking at me like that XD. I believe that with no regrets. But Wind Waker man...WIND WAKER!! It's a ZELDA game for crying out loud! There could be an all-Zelda Final Four!! Zelda's one of the best franchises ever on GameFAQs, only matched by Final Fantasy. And the franchise as a new trailer which made many little boys and girls smile and cheer.

And what I'm hearing from few people in this topic is that division 128 is a very weak, meaning it's up in the air who could come out of that. But Wind Waker's too strong a game for Starcraft to lose too. Halo was overrated, and I question if KH was really strong at all or would get the anti-kiddy vote from having Disney characters...guess it did. But a PC game can only go so far in this tourney...and it's facing a big franchise. :-)

WW has none of the disadvantaged of KH or Halo. WW wins. Thank you. :-)

See you on Saturday as we all watch WW take down the mass carriers. I hope...

Yeah, so what do you think? :-) I also want to know what you think of the anti-Kiddy factor playing a role in KH's loss to SC...heh. :-)
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 4:36:43 AM | Message Detail
Only 40% of people thought LTTP would make it to the Elite 8 after 75% of people thought it would make the sweet 16, ahead of Super Metroid?

This means that 25% of the bracketeers thought that either Earthbound, Doom, Mortal Kombat, or most likely FF6 would take down LTTP. This most definitely explains the early lead for FF6, that`s for sure.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 4:39:20 AM | Message Detail
The Wind Waker will win, but not because there is a huge contingency of Halo and KH fans waiting in the wings specifically to vote for it. Like people have been saying for years now, such votes don`t exist, and if they do, it only matters in matches that are close such that every factor in the book could therefore count towards the final vote totals.

Why do I think Wind Waker will win? *copies two posts from Slowflake and NeoElfboy* Should Starcraft so much as tie Halo, this would mean that Soul Calibur could score 51% of the votes on Metroid Prime, and that Halo is as strong or stronger than the Wind Waker. Sorry, but no.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:03:06 AM | Message Detail
Prediction Leaderboard:

1 Saitou7777 - 80
2 willyman76 - 78
2 SlangEdter41 - 78
4 LordOfDabu - 77
4 alpha door - 77
4 UltimaterializerX - 77
4 FrostHarpy - 77
4 PepeCamello - 77
4 usefulidiot - 77
4 SSJGasSnake - 77
4 Kirin17 - 77
4 Delpheous2003 - 77
4 Aprosenf - 77
4 Dralor - 77
4 Vortyx - 77
4 Sins Tox1n - 77

Yesterday a lot of people got the match wrong a 10 to be exact and the were The Return (who was in first), leet g33k (who was in third), Raistlin187 and Dont Tread On ME (who were both in fourth), Bananaquest, Modest Morte, Roving Vagrant, Bejita San, duilio9z and CloudsShinji. Also 3 people from yesterday’s top 10 had FF III/VI winning the whole thing. Also only 39.57% of the people got this right.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:08:34 AM | Message Detail
I`m still wondering how many of us have SSBM in the Final Four.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:18:47 AM | Message Detail
Damn. Let it be known that 70-30 on Metal Gear Solid is absolutely insane. I didn`t think FF7 would do this well, though it`s still early in the match.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:19:44 AM | Message Detail
Ulti consider that only 22% of us has it in the sweet 16 so for the final four and with the competition were even a 16 seed could take the win I would say that it might be under 10%
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My Score 69/76 FF III/VI vs. LoZ: LttP
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:21:02 AM | Message Detail
Also ulti I listed why this match will end up to be 70%-30%
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My Score 69/76 FF III/VI vs. LoZ: LttP
From: irriadin | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:44:35 AM | Message Detail
watch OoT get 80% tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
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Today's Pick: FF7 over MGS
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:46:25 AM | Message Detail
Goldeneye won't suffer from SFF as much as SM64 did
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My Score 69/80 FF VII vs. MGS
From: Angstroms Prower | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:48:06 AM | Message Detail
But Goldeneye is probably much weaker than Mario 64 too.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/27/2004 5:56:22 AM | Message Detail
I got only ONE thing to say about this match.

Damn am I glad I picked FF7 to win it all.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 069/076 --- Matches: 45/51 --- Rank: 00372/40940 --- Today's pick: LttP
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