Well I did.. <<
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If the afternoon vote is strong enough in favor of LttP, maybe it has a teenie-weenie chance of still being a match against CT. Doubt it though. Pathetic how LttP was supposed to go nowhere according to all these people, then now that it's barely able to beat FF6, it's supposed to be favored to go to the finals. I think they have it backwards.

And Chichiri thinks SoM is really more popular than SONIC 2?!? Well, with all the risky assumptions he made in the past (and you can tell I'm being polite), I wouldn't put that past him.
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Slowflake, you`re jumping off of the LTTP bandwagon pretty quickly =)
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Of course I think SoM is better than Sonic 2. I had much more fun with one than the other. And you can't deny that the SFF could have been horribly in favor of CT. Chances are without SFF SoM would stand higher in the extrapolated rankings than Sonic 2.

Besides, at least I knew where my risky pick stands, you actually though LttP would make something of itself.
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I am annoyed right now to say the least

If FFVI fails me and smitelf and loses here...well all I want is for that overworshipped Chrono to fulfill my bracket next week and take out this fanboy adored Zelda that if it wins will kill my dreams of leaderboard glory.

Grrr... u LTTP fanboys! I curse all of you and your shallow way of thinking!
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Hey, now ALttP owns.
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Oh and Mana is a better game than LTTP also
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Another reason why I think SSBM can beat FFX:

Vice City`s Prediction % before facing SSBM: 79.11%
FFX`s Prediction % before facing SSBM: 79.81%

How strangely erotic.
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No worries Steve, despite LttP easily being my second favorite game in the division I know it's got little to no chance against CT now. There's no point in dancing around the issue, nothing looks good for LttP right now. Nothing. I tried to be calm, rational, and in the middle on all this, but there's no point. The fanboys are still rabidly claiming LttP has more than a slim chance at best, and it's just not true. It has a slim chance, but unless it can take another 3% of the score by closing time it's nothing more than a slim chance. Your foolishness makes me sick, people, and I'm going back to angry "you're all idiots" Chichiri now... thank you, thank you all so very much.
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"Oh and Mana is a better game than LTTP also"

You're damn right it is.
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Maybe more people didn't expect LTTP to get past FF3/6 in the first place. To them, Zelda leading in this match means it can overcome a strong Square game like CT.

We really shouldn't jump to conclusions so soon. CT is the favorite to win this division. But a look at the stats show that only around 61% guessed that CT would beat Mario World. That number is underwhelming. Also, a lot of people underestimated Wind Waker. That may apply with this Zelda game as well.
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"But a look at the stats show that only around 61% guessed that CT would beat Mario World."

Umm, no, 61% chose CT to beat everything up to and including Mario World be it Sonic 2 or SoM that they thought was the threat. That's like saying only 6% expected Cloud to beat Sephiroth...
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Your doing exactly what I did last night, saying ALttP has no chance, heh. ;) Except replace ALttP with FFVI.
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I know that is part of the equation, Chichiri. I'm just not impressed by that number. People in this thread placed CT third in terms of strength (behind OOT and FFVII) so I expected more people to have it going all the way.
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Yeah, well, I'm sick of listening to mad men insisting that LttP has any shot because it murdered two ****ty opponents. Yes Slowflake, I said SM is total ****. Get over it quickly, I don't want to see you twitching and spasming because I said that about a game that's obviously much more inferior among Nintendo's own than you could possibly imagine. It's rediculous to assume CT and FF6 are equal. I'll give you close, if that, but equal? Not while this site continues exists. LttP has some shot, but not much. I figure it has less of a shot at CT than FF6 had at it. And look at the score, even with the gap widening FF6 still came 10% closer than anyone predicted. I still say without SFF CT would go 60/40 on FF6, and If LttP doens't finish with 55% there is should be no leaning towards LttP left. Some silly fanboys will hold onto it... which I wouldn't mind if it were simply "hopeful thinking"... but were talking about people who still think LttP has a very good chance at winning. It never had a very good chance at wiining. It had a chance, but not nearly as great as people seem to think. It still has a chance, but not nearly as good as people seem to think. I won't be shocked and horrified if it wins, but at this point I simply don't think it can without great luck.
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Your foolishness makes me sick, people, and I'm going back to angry "you're all idiots" Chichiri now... thank you, thank you all so very much.

I shall back you, your fellow anti-fanboy commentator!

Now I will say right now that Chrono, always thought of as stronger than FFVI, will unequivocally beat LTTP by 60%, and it will win the division as I predicted from the get-go. I bash Chrono yes and call it overworshipped, but I do like the game, and I like it against LTTP. Always did, always will.

Read my old commentary: I said Mana was better than CT but would not win cause of the fanboys. I prefer Mana over CT and LTTP but not FFVI, incase u all are curious. They are all good games though. But this result pains me nonetheless...FFVI dont deserve to lose to LTTP, it just dont sit well, it just is NOT the better game.

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will unequivocally beat LTTP by 60%, and it will win the division as I predicted from the get-go. I bash Chrono yes and call it overworshipped, but I do like the game, and I like it against LTTP. Always did, always will.

There is absolutely, positively no way on this Earth would Chrono Trigger get 60% on ALttP. None, zip, nada.
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Link to the Past has still a chance, but for the sake of my already very hurt bracket (due to a couple fanboy choices <_<), I hope it loses to CT.

I'm still very confident in OoT. I never bought this LttP = OoT theory. In my mind, OoT is ten times the game LttP is.

And Secret of Mana sucks imo.
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It may not, but I am fired up right now is all!
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Don't kid yourself HM. Crono never got past Mario in the SC, for all we know he could very well have done better against Link. There's nothing outside of the extrapolated standings that says it's not possible. And look at the extrolated standings, they are pretty damn close to saying Doom is better than Super Metroid. Can you believe that? I can't. They are useful, but have flaws. One glaring flaw is that they assume the ability to predict direct matchups through indirect methods. If Link wins over Mario because he has a sword, then what happens when he meets someone else with a sword? He got his ass handed to him the only time he did meet with a half decent sword wielder. Perpahs the sword is mighter than the Mario when all other things about the match are equal (and no one claim claim any equality about MvsC except the closeness of the score), but maybe Link loses out in sword on sword action everytime. You never know, because there is no evidence to show for or against. Well, except him being brutalized by Cloud's sword...

So maybe Crono had a tough time with SMW. Maybe Mario is Chrono's bane, and swords are Link's bane, while Link is Mario's bane. There is no way for sure to tell me that it's impossible, so don't try. Fact is it really could be Mario > Crono > Link > Mario and we'd not know it because we never got the chance to see it in action.

It's not impossible for CT to take 60% next round. It's unlikely, but not impossible.
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"In my mind, OoT is ten times the game LttP is."

Your mind is clearly twisted, so of course you'd think that. And your opinion sucks.

You are the guy that actually likes the corpse-puppets that Sonic and crew have turned into, though, so this should all come as no surprise.
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You are the guy that actually likes the corpse-puppets that Sonic and crew have turned into, though, so this should all come as no surprise.

Well, at least I can see past a couple flaws of a game to enjoy a very fun experience.
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Memo to self: If you ever have children, keep them away from smitelf.

Yes, please do. I find deformed children a little creepy.

That should simply be added to the laws of common sense. I swear the woman is going to eat her first child out of instinct.

That’s a lie! I would never eat my firstborn! I would slit its throat, chop it into little pieces, marinate it, cook it on a skewer with a variety of vegetables, make tasty kebabs out of it, and serve it to guests. Really! What kind of a monster do you think I am?

As a side note, I know about Becky`s little affair. Your side of the story would be most welcome. =)

Hey, you’re the one who had an affair with Kyle Bowen. At least I have taste. Er, at least I hope so. Who did I have an affair with?

It's rediculous to assume CT and FF6 are equal. I'll give you close, if that, but equal? Not while this site continues exists

I’ve always been under the impression that CT > FFVI around here, as well, and by easily enough of a margin to make up the small amount of ground LttP has over FFVI. I’d say CT should be the heavy favorite going into the match. LttP has a chance, but it’s slim.

And look at the score, even with the gap widening FF6 still came 10% closer than anyone predicted.

Hey now, Slowflake, Ulti and Heroic Mario aren’t everyone! Some of us, like cyko, thought it would be close.

There is absolutely, positively no way on this Earth would Chrono Trigger get 60% on ALttP. None, zip, nada.

*sigh* I don’t think Heroic Mario will ever learn to stop calling matches before they even start. I don’t think CT would get 60%, either, but around 55% would not surprise me.
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In my mind, OoT is ten times the game LttP is.

You non-2D Zelda gamer. ;)

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You non-2D Zelda gamer. ;)

Heh. I like Gameboy Zelda games quite a lot actually. LttP is just not my thing.
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Actually, I take that back about Ulti. He said LttP would get about 55% as I recall, which seemed reasonable at the time. Truthfully, 60% for LttP would not have surprised me, but it would have seriously undermined my belief in the relative strength of the games in that bracket. I never considered such a number to be likely, and only a few in this topic really did, that I recall, such as Slowflake and Heroic Mario.
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In my mind, OoT is ten times the game LttP is.

In my mind, at least three Final Fantasy games are ten times the game that LttP is, but then I've always preferred Mario to Link as far as Nintendo's franchises go. Super Mario Kart and SMW pwn anything that has come out of the Zelda franchise, IMO.
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A couple flaws? Oh, you must mean the very existance of SA 1 and 2 and the entire second half of Sonic Heroes... Yeah, I guess if you look past all that there is a fun experience to be found somewhere back in the 16 bit days of the series when it was, oh, I dunno, good? I mean, there's obviously a reason that no Sonic game could make it into the crapfest known as division 128... which should make you as a Sonic fan a sad panda, cause the Sonic games are going downhill. I'd bet Sonic 3 alone (without S&K) got more votes (and deserved them) than all of the 3d sonic games combined, and that's not to say anything Sonic 2 or S&K or S3&K votes.

"What kind of a monster do you think I am?"

Can I plead the 5th while I search for an exorcist?

"LttP has a chance, but it’s slim."

You're fairly level-headed for a disturbing monster of a human being.

"I don’t think Heroic Mario will ever learn to stop calling matches before they even start."

Maybe if CT gets 60%.... Bwahahahahahha
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Oh, and SM64 > OoT, as well. Just not a big Zelda fan. I don't hate it, I'm just pretty much neutral toward it. I never really got interested in any of the Zelda games thus far. The new GameCube one looks kind of cool, though. Link looks like Legolas, and Legolas is played by Orlando Bloom, so I'll probably give it a try.
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Don't kid yourself HM. Crono never got past Mario in the SC, for all we know he could very well have done better against Link.

There is no reason for me to believe that Crono could get over 40% on Link much less pose a threat to him.

There's nothing outside of the extrapolated standings that says it's not possible. And look at the extrolated standings, they are pretty damn close to saying Doom is better than Super Metroid. Can you believe that? I can't.

There isn`t anything that says Crono can manage to beat Link or even get close for that matter either. Extrapolated standings aside why should I believe he stands a chance against Link when at best he would have beat Mario by 1,000 votes? That is far from convincing me that he would`ve done that much better. I`m sure he would have because SFF wouldn`t have played a role but I couldn`t see him getting anything above 40%, or well maybe a tad but other than that.

They are useful, but have flaws. One glaring flaw is that they assume the ability to predict direct matchups through indirect methods. If Link wins over Mario because he has a sword, then what happens when he meets someone else with a sword?

I don`t think it has to do with the sword, otherwise, Mario wouldn`t have beat a sword wielder twice.

He got his ass handed to him the only time he did meet with a half decent sword wielder. Perpahs the sword is mighter than the Mario when all other things about the match are equal (and no one claim claim any equality about MvsC except the closeness of the score), but maybe Link loses out in sword on sword action everytime.

It is perfectly fine to believe that he lost to Cloud, but because Cloud has a sword? Doubtful. I mean it is pretty much there that Kingdom Hearts helped both Cloud and Sephiroth so the boost is because of that and the winning would be because of that. Further, Link already handed Sephiroth his ass in 2002 and Sephiroth wields a sword so he has had sword wielders before.

You never know, because there is no evidence to show for or against. Well, except him being brutalized by Cloud's sword...

Lost by 5,000 and yet tore Sephiroth, a fellow sword wielder, apart with 15,000 votes and a 55-45 match. That may be pretty close but when its Sephiroth of all people losing like that it should tell you something. So, in 2003 KH helped Cloud and Sephiroth, but Link also lost to Cloud who wields a sword yet in 2002 he pushed aside a sword wielder like it was nothing. I really doubt that has something to do with it.

So maybe Crono had a tough time with SMW. Maybe Mario is Chrono's bane, and swords are Link's bane, while Link is Mario's bane. There is no way for sure to tell me that it's impossible, so don't try. Fact is it really could be Mario > Crono > Link > Mario and we'd not know it because we never got the chance to see it in action.

I hope Crono has to face, by some luck CJayC changes the braket format, Link so you can see for yourself just how much he would get on him. ;)

It's not impossible for CT to take 60% next round. It's unlikely, but not impossible.

Oh I think it is pretty impossible, but if you want me to avoid that then it`s extremely, extremely unlikely.


*sigh* I don’t think Heroic Mario will ever learn to stop calling matches before they even start.

All I said was that there was no way CT could get 60% on ALttP never called a winner or any other percentage. =)
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chrono trigger scoring 60% against lttp would imply that lttp is weaker than super mario world.

after oot vs. mario 64...i simply cannot believe that.

i suppose anything is possible...
...but it is also possible that goldeneye will win the tournament...
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Maybe if CT gets 60%.... Bwahahahahahha

I`d be so speechless you wouldn`t hear a word from me.
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I said SM is total ****. Get over it quickly, I don't want to see you twitching and spasming because I said that about a game that's obviously much more inferior among Nintendo's own than you could possibly imagine.

Which is exactly why Super Metroid is EGM's best game of all-time and IGN's third best-game of all-time.

I love it when people equate their own sucky opinion with fact.

Can I plead the 5th while I search for an exorcist?

Would you like some red rum?

You're fairly level-headed for a disturbing monster of a human being.

Aww, I think he likes me.

All I said was that there was no way CT could get 60% on ALttP never called a winner or any other percentage. =)

Still, claiming that such a percentage is impossible considering your track record lately is a little disturbing. In fact, I might even say that it gives CT an even better chance of getting 60%. We should call it The Heroic Mario Factor. It’s like The Slowflake Factor, only it’s for percentages instead of for who wins.
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Whatever Chichiri. I suck at arguing this kind of things anyway, and I don't really care. You anti-Sonic fanboy.

*sticks tongue*

Anyway...

chrono trigger scoring 60% against lttp would imply that lttp is weaker than super mario world.

after oot vs. mario 64...i simply cannot believe that.

Hum, good point. I definitely cannot see SMW stronger than LttP either.
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Well that`s true, I`ve been off lately in percentages. Even then, 60% is beyond insane.
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When CT gets 60%, its cause I called it first! :)

Take it to the bank, Nintendites!
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redline15:
but, as slowflake said earlier...those results have been tainted by "sff."
this is why ulti was complaining about this system: there are some factors it cannot take into account.

Yes, but everybody knows that. That's the whole point. The errors of the model are systematic, and usually predictable.


Final Fantasy VII should be the favorite against Ocarina of Time, based on these results.

And before Chichiri spouts some nonsense about "jumping to conclusions", let me pre-emptively say that this isn't about jumping to conclusions at all. It's about having rationale expectations based on the evidence at hand. You know I'm hardly one to make bold predictions (outside of the one that results in my current sig), but Final Fantasy VII has to be the favorite against Ocarina of Time at this point. Not some huge favorite where an Ocarina of Time victory would make everyone's jaw drop or anything like that, but the clear favorite.

As for Chrono Trigger vs. A Link to the Past: very difficult to have a favorite in this match. Not much to indicate either has an advantage.

It wouldn't be shocking for Final Fantasy VI to be stronger than Chrono Trigger, because it is a Final Fantasy game, and one of the 3 strongest. Though, I would expect Chrono Trigger to be stronger than it.
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I disagree that it's "beyond insane" but I don't think it's at all likely. Still, if you say that it's impossible enough times, HM, I'm sure you can make it happen :)
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"Oh, and SM64 > OoT, as well."

You're damn right it is!

"There is no reason for me to believe"

There's no direct evidence to prove it's impossible though! Hah!

"There isn`t anything that says Crono can manage to beat Link or even get close for that matter either."

There's no direct evidence to prove its impossible though! Hah!

"because SFF wouldn`t have played a role"

See there, you recognize this fact, don't discount it!

"Mario wouldn`t have beat a sword wielder twice."

Mario is immune to swords. He loses to Link because Link > Mario > Samus as you've so put it a number of times

"but because Cloud has a sword? "

Prove it to be impossible. You can't. :) that's why theory is so much more fun. You can't prove me wrong, we can only agree that what I say is unlikely. And will agree to that fact, but it still isn't an admission of wrong.

blah blah blah "Kingdom Hearts" blah blah blah

Yeah, we know how meaningful KH is because is performs so well, right? Sora and KH are weak, so how can you prove that KH helped Cloud? Well, we can't. It's specualation. The most likely answer, I will agree with, but just because I agree that it's most likely doesn't make it so.

"Sephiroth wields a sword"

Sephiroth obviously lacked his true potential until 2k3.

"I really doubt that has something to do with it."

Same here, what's your point?

" hope Crono has to face, by some luck CJayC changes the braket format, Link so you can see for yourself just how much he would get on him. ;) "

I hope he does too. I was expecting him to face Link in 2k2. Crono got robbed.

"it`s extremely, extremely unlikely."

Better.
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I don`t think CT will win much less get 60%. << Really, that puts ALttP on the same level as SMW if that doesn`t warrant "insane" I don`t know what does. =)
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Crono beating Link? Ha! You cannot honestly believe there was ever any change of that. The possibility could be dismissed out of hand.
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There's no direct evidence to prove it's impossible though! Hah!

It isn`t exactly something worth taking into account either.

There's no direct evidence to prove its impossible though! Hah!

If you think Crono would be a threat to Link its your loss. =P

See there, you recognize this fact, don't discount it!

Who doesn`t? Obviously Mario got a low percentage due to this, but at the same time Crono isn`t magically going to rise to the level of a threat.

Mario is immune to swords. He loses to Link because Link > Mario > Samus as you've so put it a number of times

That contradicts itself even if that is how the Nintendo fanbase favors things Link, a sword wielder, still beat Mario so he cannot be immune to them. ;)

Prove it to be impossible. You can't. :) that's why theory is so much more fun. You can't prove me wrong, we can only agree that what I say is unlikely. And will agree to that fact, but it still isn't an admission of wrong.

Come now, do you honestly believe Link has a problem with people who have swords? ;)

Yeah, we know how meaningful KH is because is performs so well, right? Sora and KH are weak, so how can you prove that KH helped Cloud? Well, we can't.

Cloud had not had a notable apperance since Final Fantasy VII in 1997. On the PS2 there was Kingdom Hearts, a game that sold very well and featured Cloud/Sephiroth. The game introduced lots of new gamers to Cloud and Sephiroth who had not had messed with FFVII. A cameo apperance for already strong character only helps them out. There isn`t anything else out there that is reasonable other than KH within that 1 year timeframe. Kingdom Hearts may be weak, Sora may be weak but just having that kind of cameo appearance can only help when you are as strong as Cloud and Sephiroth. And you just have to love how they had those two KH pictures for two straight rounds.

It's specualation. The most likely answer, I will agree with, but just because I agree that it's most likely doesn't make it so.

There isn`t anything to prove it with hard, cold evidence but like you said it is the most likely answer.

Sephiroth obviously lacked his true potential until 2k3.

And what is that because of? =)

Same here, what's your point?

I think we just wasted some time doing this don`t ya think? =P

I hope he does too. I was expecting him to face Link in 2k2. Crono got robbed.

Heh, he got screwed over in 2003 I`ll admit, even though I was happy Mario won at the time it was obvious Crono was stronger that year. But in 2002 that was all Mario.

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I don`t think CT will win much less get 60%.

Ah! The eyes, the fanboyism makes them burn! I must wash them with the blood of a dozen infants or be blinded by the fires of bias!

...good thing I keep the blood of a dozen infants in stock ;)

Seriously, though, may I ask *why* you think LttP will beat CT? I really do want an answer.
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"after oot vs. mario 64...i simply cannot believe that."

OoT and M64 have nothing to do with SMW and LttP. and if you can't see SFF when its right up in your face you don't get to have your opinions listened to because they are wrong.

"I`d be so speechless you wouldn`t hear a word from me."

I'd love to see it. I really would.

"Which is exactly why Super Metroid is EGM's best game of all-time and IGN's third best-game of all-time."

What do Electronic Gaming Craply and IGNorance central have to do with anything? Those top 100 lists are so old they are probably void by now, as well. And besides, if you knew anything at all (as in, if you were some random noob passing by) you'd know that I'll call a game I'd personally give a 7 or 8 a piece of **** just to exaggerate a point. SM is awesome, but not in a GameFAQs Spring contest.

"I love it when people equate their own sucky opinion with fact."

I love it when noobs who know next to nothing, on the negative side of the spectum, get involved with conversatiosn that are lightyears ahead of them.

"Aww, I think he likes me"

Well, if you weren't so involved with that there Ulti I'd be trying to sweep you off your feet.... *chuckles* Okay, so maybe not, but I still don't know what would ever make you think I DON'T like you.

"In fact, I might even say that it gives CT an even better chance of getting 60%."

Ouch, that's gotta hurt.

"You anti-Sonic fanboy."

I loved Sonic, until he was molested into the 3D shamefest he has become.

"Even then, 60% is beyond insane."

No, summer contest divisions by company is beyond insane, CT scoring 60% is just unlikely.

"and usually predictable"

Usually, not always.

"And before Chichiri spouts some nonsense about "jumping to conclusions""

I wasn't going to, actually. At least we now have a clearer Idea of what each match means. It's not like you're saying FF7 is unstoppable because CT took 80% on SoM. Which is, essentially, the exact same thing that the Zelda bandwagon has been doing.

"It wouldn't be shocking for Final Fantasy VI to be stronger than Chrono Trigger"

Let me correctly finish that sentance for you "...outside of GameFAQs."
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

The Foolish Ninja:
I love it when people equate their own sucky opinion with fact.

Chichiri is known for having sucky opinions ;) I think he revels in them (being facetious, no offense intended). And he absolutely loves to state everything, even the most odd things, with absolute certainty.

Chichiri:
Usually, not always.

I figured you would quote that. Again, duh. No point in staing the obvious.

BTW, it's almost impossible for Chrono Trigger to do better against A Link to the Past than it did against SMW.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

"I don`t think CT will win much less get 60%."

HM, I think I need to help you here. I'm almost forced to perform what is called an "intervention". You're sick, and you need to get help. There are places that can cure you of your sickness. We're here for you, we'll get you passed this blind, insane fanboyism... because we care.

"The possibility could be dismissed out of hand."

Yeah, the possibility of Cloud beating Link was too. What's your ****ing point? Even you can't be stupid enough to think the extrapolated standings show proof that it's impossible, can you? You know the flaws, and you know that characters are volitile and unpredictable, so you'd have to be as blind as HM to off-handedly dismiss anything. You probably are, though, so I'm not quite sure why I'm wasting my time talking to you.

"That contradicts itself"

Not if you assume Link would whoop Mario's ass without a sword, and I bet he could.

"Come now, do you honestly believe Link has a problem with people who have swords"

Come now, can't you tell when a post is only half serious?

blah blah blah "Kingdom Hearts" blah blah blah

Oh, sorry, this time I actually didn't listen to you. It's a boring subject, and we all know how I feel about it. I've said 20 bajillion times that KH did help Cloud and Seph, but I don't think it's the only thing that put Cloud as far up there as he got. Just because I say something to contradict myself doesn't mean I've changed my beliefs on a matter.

"And what is that because of?"

He was seeded too low.

"I think we just wasted some time doing this don`t ya think?"

Yeah, I was sorta hoping you'd catch on faster :)

"But in 2002 that was all Mario."

*cough*bs*cough*
They are too close as characters, and it could have gone either way. It wasn't "all Mario", because Mario got soem cheating going on too. That's not the point though, because the cheating is innevitable, the point is that someone traveled back in time and sabbotaged that match knowing that if they did not my correct prediction of the innevitable 2k2 champ, Crono, would lead me to become the powerful leader of a revolutionary group that would over throw the corrupt american government and replace it with a fair one sending the entire world into a chain reaction that leads to true equality for all people and world peace.


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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

"...good thing I keep the blood of a dozen infants in stock"

I'm sorry, I was thirsty and drank that blood. I replaced it with the blood of 13 hobos though.
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow