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Contest Stats & Discussion - Part 19
From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 12:26:31 AM | Message Detail
A 110 vote lead is nothing to be excited about right now. Without even
30 minutes into the match it shouldn`t be the biggest of surprises to
see FFVI out to a small lead. The closer we get to morning the faster
and stronger ALttP is going to be.
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From: RamzaB
| Posted: 5/26/2004 12:31:44 AM | Message Detail
This and Tactics strong showing has given me new confidence in FFVII's ability to win. I didn't think LttP would ever trail.
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From: cyko
| Posted: 5/26/2004 12:50:13 AM | Message Detail
almost in hour in and FF6 still holds a 110-120 vote lead. the day vote
will most likely go to LTTP, but at least i can be proud of FF6 keeping
it close even if LTTP does come back. =)
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Current Score: 65/72 (through Zelda vs. Tetris)
cyko's 256 Game Contest: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=14222671
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Current Score: 65/72 (through Zelda vs. Tetris)
cyko's 256 Game Contest: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=14222671
From: NeoElfboy
| Posted: 5/26/2004 1:06:36 AM | Message Detail
almost in hour in and FF6 still holds a 110-120 vote lead. the day
vote will most likely go to LTTP, but at least i can be proud of FF6
keeping it close even if LTTP does come back. =)
I agree with that sentiment.
And... I do feel this match now paints FF7 as the contest's favourite. For the first time, I feel we have new, relevant evidence to the FF7/OoT match, and it favours FF7.
And I'd pick FFX to represent division 128, myself. But then, I love that game, and consider it FF's finest, and FF isn't the worst of series out there to begin with. Don't know why you hate it, Ulti. ;_;
I agree with that sentiment.
And... I do feel this match now paints FF7 as the contest's favourite. For the first time, I feel we have new, relevant evidence to the FF7/OoT match, and it favours FF7.
And I'd pick FFX to represent division 128, myself. But then, I love that game, and consider it FF's finest, and FF isn't the worst of series out there to begin with. Don't know why you hate it, Ulti. ;_;
From: Tarrot
| Posted: 5/26/2004 2:34:09 AM | Message Detail
I believe this match points to Adventure as the contest favorite.
Seriously, as I've said repeatedly, people are voting on the better game, not who is more fanboyish then another. The results from FFVI/LttP have no impact whatsoever on who the favorite is, and I believe that OoT has a better chance to win if LttP loses. While people may be voting on the better game, one must never underestimate fanboyism, and a loss here and a loss to Starcraft and a loss to SMB3 can put the entire Zelda community at their knees, and not around Link this time. Thier dreams of an all-Zelda FF have been dashed, and now there is a good chance they will not even have a Zelda game in the FF. They will rally like they've never rallied before, and pull out an upset, so to speak, over FFVII through the power of fanboyism.
Seriously, as I've said repeatedly, people are voting on the better game, not who is more fanboyish then another. The results from FFVI/LttP have no impact whatsoever on who the favorite is, and I believe that OoT has a better chance to win if LttP loses. While people may be voting on the better game, one must never underestimate fanboyism, and a loss here and a loss to Starcraft and a loss to SMB3 can put the entire Zelda community at their knees, and not around Link this time. Thier dreams of an all-Zelda FF have been dashed, and now there is a good chance they will not even have a Zelda game in the FF. They will rally like they've never rallied before, and pull out an upset, so to speak, over FFVII through the power of fanboyism.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 5/26/2004 5:02:02 AM | Message Detail
Don't know why you hate it, Ulti. ;_;
A horrendous, and I mean a horrendous, storyline for 65% of the game. Sorry, but following around a weak-minded religious zealot around the world in such a linear manner is not my taste. Outside of Auron, Rikku, and Lulu, I cannot stand those characters. Wakka is a total imbecile, Yuna and Tidus... are Yuna and Tidus, Kimahri is the most bland and uninnovative character in the game, and the secondary villain looks like nothing more than a crossdressing Kefka. Then again, crossdressing may be the way to imitate Kefka, but that`s not the point.
I also couldn`t stand the battle system. If I`m an enemy that has suddenly been warped into a battle to the death with a bunch of zealots willing to throw their lives away for a meaningless cause, I`m not going to sit there and wait my turn to attack. I`m using every underhanded trick in the book to gain an advantage, even if it means stealing Yuna away and impregnating her with alien bug scum. The Sphere Grid was nice, but the game tries far too hard to throw the themes of water and spheres in your face. We aren`t in second grade here, we can understand subliminal symbolism.
Honestly, I find that entire game to be complete trash (outside of Blitzball, second only to Triple Triad as the best minigame ever) until you finish Home, when you finally learn of your purpose. I`m like Agent Smith, I need a purpose in order to move onward. Without one, I`m playing through a game with no thought process and nothing feeding into my abilities to analyse. For me, this is almost as bad as having my wang cut off. I need to be able to think and analyse things while playing an RPG. It is part of my livelihood, an overdone hobby if you will, and FFX brings up no need for me to give any intellectual thought whatsoever into the game until well over halfway through the damned thing.
And if this piece of **** represents the 128 bit division, all hell is breaking loose. Expect multiple fanfics of Yuna being abused in every way possible, Tidus receiving multiple sex changes due to not knowing what the hell he is, and Kimahri beating himself over the head with his stick.
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A horrendous, and I mean a horrendous, storyline for 65% of the game. Sorry, but following around a weak-minded religious zealot around the world in such a linear manner is not my taste. Outside of Auron, Rikku, and Lulu, I cannot stand those characters. Wakka is a total imbecile, Yuna and Tidus... are Yuna and Tidus, Kimahri is the most bland and uninnovative character in the game, and the secondary villain looks like nothing more than a crossdressing Kefka. Then again, crossdressing may be the way to imitate Kefka, but that`s not the point.
I also couldn`t stand the battle system. If I`m an enemy that has suddenly been warped into a battle to the death with a bunch of zealots willing to throw their lives away for a meaningless cause, I`m not going to sit there and wait my turn to attack. I`m using every underhanded trick in the book to gain an advantage, even if it means stealing Yuna away and impregnating her with alien bug scum. The Sphere Grid was nice, but the game tries far too hard to throw the themes of water and spheres in your face. We aren`t in second grade here, we can understand subliminal symbolism.
Honestly, I find that entire game to be complete trash (outside of Blitzball, second only to Triple Triad as the best minigame ever) until you finish Home, when you finally learn of your purpose. I`m like Agent Smith, I need a purpose in order to move onward. Without one, I`m playing through a game with no thought process and nothing feeding into my abilities to analyse. For me, this is almost as bad as having my wang cut off. I need to be able to think and analyse things while playing an RPG. It is part of my livelihood, an overdone hobby if you will, and FFX brings up no need for me to give any intellectual thought whatsoever into the game until well over halfway through the damned thing.
And if this piece of **** represents the 128 bit division, all hell is breaking loose. Expect multiple fanfics of Yuna being abused in every way possible, Tidus receiving multiple sex changes due to not knowing what the hell he is, and Kimahri beating himself over the head with his stick.
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I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: Seijun
| Posted: 5/26/2004 5:06:47 AM | Message Detail
http://videogamerecaps.com/recaps/games.php?game=5
I have a feeling that you'll enjoy reading this Ulti, if you haven't yet >>
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I have a feeling that you'll enjoy reading this Ulti, if you haven't yet >>
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 5/26/2004 5:11:12 AM | Message Detail
Seijun, Seijun. I love you. That was absolutely priceless!
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I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
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I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 5/26/2004 5:36:59 AM | Message Detail
Prediction Leaderboard:
1 The Return - 76
1 Saitou7777 - 76
3 leet g33k - 75
4 willyman76 - 74
4 SlangEdter41 - 74
4 Raistlin187 - 74
4 Dont Tread On ME - 74
8 Bananaquest - 73
8 LordOfDabu - 73
8 alpha door - 73
8 UltimaterializerX - 73
8 FrostHarpy - 73
8 PepeCamello - 73
8 Modest Morte - 73
8 usefulidiot - 73
8 SSJGasSnake - 73
8 Roving Vagrant - 73
8 Kirin17 - 73
8 Delpheous2003 - 73
8 Aprosenf - 73
8 Dralor - 73
8 Vortyx - 73
8 duilio9z - 73
8 CloudsShinji - 73
8 Sins Tox1n - 73
8 Bejita San - 73
Yesterday was the 3rd quiet day in a row only 2 fell off the top 10 which were CounterCloud (who was in 4th place), and PerfectDemon. Also only 61.95% of the people got this match right. Also tomorrow there will be alot of chnage in the standings because of this match.
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My Score 69/76 FF III/VI vs. LoZ: LttP
1 The Return - 76
1 Saitou7777 - 76
3 leet g33k - 75
4 willyman76 - 74
4 SlangEdter41 - 74
4 Raistlin187 - 74
4 Dont Tread On ME - 74
8 Bananaquest - 73
8 LordOfDabu - 73
8 alpha door - 73
8 UltimaterializerX - 73
8 FrostHarpy - 73
8 PepeCamello - 73
8 Modest Morte - 73
8 usefulidiot - 73
8 SSJGasSnake - 73
8 Roving Vagrant - 73
8 Kirin17 - 73
8 Delpheous2003 - 73
8 Aprosenf - 73
8 Dralor - 73
8 Vortyx - 73
8 duilio9z - 73
8 CloudsShinji - 73
8 Sins Tox1n - 73
8 Bejita San - 73
Yesterday was the 3rd quiet day in a row only 2 fell off the top 10 which were CounterCloud (who was in 4th place), and PerfectDemon. Also only 61.95% of the people got this match right. Also tomorrow there will be alot of chnage in the standings because of this match.
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My Score 69/76 FF III/VI vs. LoZ: LttP
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:18:35 AM | Message Detail
Holy ****, where did THAT ONE come from?
So much for an all-Zelda Final 4... CT's going to pound it. I mean, if LttP can only take the lead with the morning vote...
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So much for an all-Zelda Final 4... CT's going to pound it. I mean, if LttP can only take the lead with the morning vote...
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From: charmander6000
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:28:28 AM | Message Detail
Slow havn't you heard some of us tell you that this match will be close
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My Score 69/76 FF III/VI vs. LoZ: LttP
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 69/76 FF III/VI vs. LoZ: LttP
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:29:31 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but I thought you were delusional or something.
At least my bracket is still alive.
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From: irriadin
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:29:53 AM | Message Detail
Here are my thoughts of the current results.
Zelda: Alttp will most likely win today, with a vote total much higher than usual (already some 16000 votes, I think that's pretty good for a site redisign vote total). Zelda will not be able to beat Chrono Trigger. That, I think, is fairly obvious.
However, I don't think this says anything about the upcoming FF7 vs. OoT match. Using proxies and unproven evidence can only go so far; nothing is really revealed by that match-up but the games themselves. So, I think we're fooling ourselves by so callously dismissing Zelda: Ocarina of Time. The game has shown no signs of weakness yet, and to say that FF7 is the logical favorite now is pretty shortsided, in my opinion.
BTW, who is going to submit art for the next round? (speaking of what CJayC wrote on the front page.) I know I'm doing something for Ocarina of Time right now.
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Current Score: 72/76 Ranked: 32nd
Today's Pick: Zelda over FF6
Zelda: Alttp will most likely win today, with a vote total much higher than usual (already some 16000 votes, I think that's pretty good for a site redisign vote total). Zelda will not be able to beat Chrono Trigger. That, I think, is fairly obvious.
However, I don't think this says anything about the upcoming FF7 vs. OoT match. Using proxies and unproven evidence can only go so far; nothing is really revealed by that match-up but the games themselves. So, I think we're fooling ourselves by so callously dismissing Zelda: Ocarina of Time. The game has shown no signs of weakness yet, and to say that FF7 is the logical favorite now is pretty shortsided, in my opinion.
BTW, who is going to submit art for the next round? (speaking of what CJayC wrote on the front page.) I know I'm doing something for Ocarina of Time right now.
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Current Score: 72/76 Ranked: 32nd
Today's Pick: Zelda over FF6
From: Mac Arrowny
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:33:28 AM | Message Detail
The only things that this match shows us are that Doom > Super
Metroid and FFVI > CT. After all, LttP would do much better than
this against CT. If FFVI pulls this one out, it has the division won.
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:35:14 AM | Message Detail
Umm... how about no? SFF for Super Metroid, and CT will probably beat LttP.
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From: irriadin
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:39:20 AM | Message Detail
Doom > Super Metroid and FFVI > CT
What?! I think that's totally wrong. There's no way Doom would win against SM in a direct poll. I refuse to believe that. And where did you get the info / intuition that FF6 is greater than CT? What evidence do you have?
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Current Score: 72/76 Ranked: 32nd
Today's Pick: Zelda over FF6
What?! I think that's totally wrong. There's no way Doom would win against SM in a direct poll. I refuse to believe that. And where did you get the info / intuition that FF6 is greater than CT? What evidence do you have?
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Current Score: 72/76 Ranked: 32nd
Today's Pick: Zelda over FF6
From: steve illumina
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:45:31 AM | Message Detail
Peeps of GameFAQ's! Do I have your attention?
All of you who dwell here and post away your lives! :) Well it's time for...the newly modernized...
Steve Illumina Speaks
Indeed it is so, the legendary and ever humorous commentary rages on from the soon to be 350 Karma Legend, to offer some lighthearted yet well-honed levity, here on this the stats thread... the one bastion of proven intelligence on this overly fanboy dominated board.
And so it proceeds, with the fanboy poster child hanging up yet another one... here in the Golden Age Division
ROUND 3: Match LIII (53...)
(1)Final Fantasy VII vs (4)Metal Gear Solid
Steve's Prediction: FFVII by 67%
Steve's Bracket: FFVII
LUE's Pick: "There is no greater love, than a fanboy's love for FFVII" -LUEshi
Upset Chances: Hahahahahahahahahaha Forget it.
Comments: After the Zelda/FF drama, comes a relaxation match, as the fanboy flag waves high when FFVII takes on Metal Gear Solid in the battle of 1997.
This match requires minimal analysis. Its FFVII, a Square RPG...THE RPG in the eyes of you know who, taking on the pride of the stealth action genre. Gee, this is tough...I gotta think hard here...but could it be...umm...FFVII winning? Yah, I think so.
The FFVII cults are growing in number now, but they are still not worried, for they know this match is a mere tuneup for Ocarina next week, their first of only two true threats to tourney dominance. Joining the "Square Squad, Aeris' Army, Barret's Brigade, Tifa's Babes, International brotherhood of Squaresoft, Vincent's Valentine Club and the Highwinders" are "The Shinra Union" and the newly formed "Order of the Orange Chocobo". Fanboys and fangirls, cosplayers and nerds, united in a common cause that no other game can boast: grassroots fanboy support! John Kerry would kill for this kind of support come November.
As for Snakey...well so long bro'...not even the cardboard box can help you now!
Historical Insights: Backed by tv commercials and a wave of marketing, FFVII revolutionized mainstream gaming like no other game since the days of Mario 3. It brought RPG's to the common gamer, and the old guard influence of the King of Platformers, the Blue Blur, and others began to subside to the modern trend of long fancy RPG's, violent mature rated games, and the like.
MGS: In 1997 this game mesmerized E3, for I was there to see it with my own eyes. It sold millions, spawned countless wannabes and created a genre. In a testament to its quality, only 1 sequel has been released, a 2nd coming. No need to churn them out eh?
Why FF Will Prevail: Voting blocks: Square fanboys will carry it, for they worship this like no other game. Period.
Why MGS Wont Prevail: It is respected, loved, and will be supported by those who love it, but its got no shot here. This is Freakin' Final Fanboyasy VII here, people!
Take a moment to remember...Super Nova! Still the best attack in any game I have ever played, and thats in 21 Years of gaming for me. Also remember the infamous cardboard box, one of the most unique items ever put in a game!
Probable Results: The blood of Jenova will flow over the corpse of the Solid one, by a comfy margin of votes. No matter the result, Ocarina will win posts will shoot up like Kentucky bluegrass in my backyard.
Random FF Quotes: "Aint no gettin off this train we're on!" -Barret, "Will you be my bodyguard?" -Aeris, "What about Aeris' dreams?" -Cloud, "Rate hike! Rate hike! Please include the Space Program in the budget!" -Palmer
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SCK24: 68/76 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
All of you who dwell here and post away your lives! :) Well it's time for...the newly modernized...
Steve Illumina Speaks
Indeed it is so, the legendary and ever humorous commentary rages on from the soon to be 350 Karma Legend, to offer some lighthearted yet well-honed levity, here on this the stats thread... the one bastion of proven intelligence on this overly fanboy dominated board.
And so it proceeds, with the fanboy poster child hanging up yet another one... here in the Golden Age Division
ROUND 3: Match LIII (53...)
(1)Final Fantasy VII vs (4)Metal Gear Solid
Steve's Prediction: FFVII by 67%
Steve's Bracket: FFVII
LUE's Pick: "There is no greater love, than a fanboy's love for FFVII" -LUEshi
Upset Chances: Hahahahahahahahahaha Forget it.
Comments: After the Zelda/FF drama, comes a relaxation match, as the fanboy flag waves high when FFVII takes on Metal Gear Solid in the battle of 1997.
This match requires minimal analysis. Its FFVII, a Square RPG...THE RPG in the eyes of you know who, taking on the pride of the stealth action genre. Gee, this is tough...I gotta think hard here...but could it be...umm...FFVII winning? Yah, I think so.
The FFVII cults are growing in number now, but they are still not worried, for they know this match is a mere tuneup for Ocarina next week, their first of only two true threats to tourney dominance. Joining the "Square Squad, Aeris' Army, Barret's Brigade, Tifa's Babes, International brotherhood of Squaresoft, Vincent's Valentine Club and the Highwinders" are "The Shinra Union" and the newly formed "Order of the Orange Chocobo". Fanboys and fangirls, cosplayers and nerds, united in a common cause that no other game can boast: grassroots fanboy support! John Kerry would kill for this kind of support come November.
As for Snakey...well so long bro'...not even the cardboard box can help you now!
Historical Insights: Backed by tv commercials and a wave of marketing, FFVII revolutionized mainstream gaming like no other game since the days of Mario 3. It brought RPG's to the common gamer, and the old guard influence of the King of Platformers, the Blue Blur, and others began to subside to the modern trend of long fancy RPG's, violent mature rated games, and the like.
MGS: In 1997 this game mesmerized E3, for I was there to see it with my own eyes. It sold millions, spawned countless wannabes and created a genre. In a testament to its quality, only 1 sequel has been released, a 2nd coming. No need to churn them out eh?
Why FF Will Prevail: Voting blocks: Square fanboys will carry it, for they worship this like no other game. Period.
Why MGS Wont Prevail: It is respected, loved, and will be supported by those who love it, but its got no shot here. This is Freakin' Final Fanboyasy VII here, people!
Take a moment to remember...Super Nova! Still the best attack in any game I have ever played, and thats in 21 Years of gaming for me. Also remember the infamous cardboard box, one of the most unique items ever put in a game!
Probable Results: The blood of Jenova will flow over the corpse of the Solid one, by a comfy margin of votes. No matter the result, Ocarina will win posts will shoot up like Kentucky bluegrass in my backyard.
Random FF Quotes: "Aint no gettin off this train we're on!" -Barret, "Will you be my bodyguard?" -Aeris, "What about Aeris' dreams?" -Cloud, "Rate hike! Rate hike! Please include the Space Program in the budget!" -Palmer
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SCK24: 68/76 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: smitelf
| Posted: 5/26/2004 6:53:37 AM | Message Detail
FFVI is putting up an even better fight than I expected it to. Cool.
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Current Sp2K4 Score: 71/76, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI
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Current Sp2K4 Score: 71/76, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/26/2004 8:09:51 AM | Message Detail
EXTRAPOLATED RANKINGS FOR UPPER DIVISION 16
1. 50.00% - (1) Chrono Trigger
2. 40.99% - (4) Super Mario World
3. 32.94% - (8) Super Mario RPG
4. 28.83% - (9) Street Fighter 2
5. 24.13% - (5) Sonic the Hedgehog 2
6. 20.61% - (16) Secret of Mana
7. 15.19% - (13) The Simpsons
8. 09.30% - (12) Shining Force
Okay. According to these numbers, Sonic 2 would get 36.63% against SMRPG, 41.85% against SF2, and even more frightening, only 57.29% against SoM. It just doesn't feel right...
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1. 50.00% - (1) Chrono Trigger
2. 40.99% - (4) Super Mario World
3. 32.94% - (8) Super Mario RPG
4. 28.83% - (9) Street Fighter 2
5. 24.13% - (5) Sonic the Hedgehog 2
6. 20.61% - (16) Secret of Mana
7. 15.19% - (13) The Simpsons
8. 09.30% - (12) Shining Force
Okay. According to these numbers, Sonic 2 would get 36.63% against SMRPG, 41.85% against SF2, and even more frightening, only 57.29% against SoM. It just doesn't feel right...
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From: Leonhart4
| Posted: 5/26/2004 8:42:57 AM | Message Detail
All of a sudden, I hope you guys are right that Link to the Past is
closer in popularity to Ocarina of Time than FFVI is to FFVII. It makes
me feel better about a Final Fantasy VII victory.
With a sigh of relief, I feel we can comfortably say that talk of an all-Zelda Final Four can now be put to rest.
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Spring Contest 2004: 64/76
Today: (6)Link to the Past over (2)Final Fantasy VI
With a sigh of relief, I feel we can comfortably say that talk of an all-Zelda Final Four can now be put to rest.
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Spring Contest 2004: 64/76
Today: (6)Link to the Past over (2)Final Fantasy VI
From: smitelf
| Posted: 5/26/2004 9:34:16 AM | Message Detail
With a sigh of relief, I feel we can comfortably say that talk of an all-Zelda Final Four can now be put to rest.
It won't be put to rest until a Zelda game loses, though I don't see any chance of an all-Zelda final four after this match. Chrono Trigger > FFVI around here and LttP isn't putting up a very good showing against the lesser of the two. My prediction of a no-Zelda final four seems more likely.
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Current Sp2K4 Score: 71/76, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI
It won't be put to rest until a Zelda game loses, though I don't see any chance of an all-Zelda final four after this match. Chrono Trigger > FFVI around here and LttP isn't putting up a very good showing against the lesser of the two. My prediction of a no-Zelda final four seems more likely.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 9:45:00 AM | Message Detail
now there is a good chance they will not even have a Zelda game in the FF.
I still believe that there will be multiple Zelda games in the Final Four, however, the all-Zelda final four isn`t looking good at all right now.
Holy ****, where did THAT ONE come from?
I never figured it`d be so close either. <<
So much for an all-Zelda Final 4... CT's going to pound it. I mean, if LttP can only take the lead with the morning vote...
I think its pretty clear that Chrono Trigger is a favorite in the match, but I`m not going to throw out ALttP yet. It could be we overestimated ALttP and underestimated FFVI. Or one or the other, but right now CT has an obvious advantage. Then again I`m not going to say it has it locked up either.
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I still believe that there will be multiple Zelda games in the Final Four, however, the all-Zelda final four isn`t looking good at all right now.
Holy ****, where did THAT ONE come from?
I never figured it`d be so close either. <<
So much for an all-Zelda Final 4... CT's going to pound it. I mean, if LttP can only take the lead with the morning vote...
I think its pretty clear that Chrono Trigger is a favorite in the match, but I`m not going to throw out ALttP yet. It could be we overestimated ALttP and underestimated FFVI. Or one or the other, but right now CT has an obvious advantage. Then again I`m not going to say it has it locked up either.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 9:46:11 AM | Message Detail
Doom > Super Metroid and FFVI > CT
Wait what in the... Doom greater than Super Metroid? FFVI greater than CT? I have serious doubts on both of those.
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Wait what in the... Doom greater than Super Metroid? FFVI greater than CT? I have serious doubts on both of those.
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From: smitelf
| Posted: 5/26/2004 9:47:40 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, I don't understand that sanity of that conclusion either, HM.
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From: smitelf
| Posted: 5/26/2004 9:54:08 AM | Message Detail
Heroic Mario in another thread I was just glancing through:
A Link to the Past will definitely take down Chrono Trigger.
If I could laugh like Albedo, I'd be doing so now. I don't mean that in a gloating way; I would have laughed just as hard yesterday.
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A Link to the Past will definitely take down Chrono Trigger.
If I could laugh like Albedo, I'd be doing so now. I don't mean that in a gloating way; I would have laughed just as hard yesterday.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 9:56:44 AM | Message Detail
My 'definitely' has been taken down a few notches, but I still believe
ALttP will pull through in the end against CT. No where near as
confident as yesterday but hey I`m not going to suddenly give up... =)
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From: smitelf
| Posted: 5/26/2004 9:58:43 AM | Message Detail
Fair enough, fair enough, but if LttP can be expected to win the
division still then we would have to suppose that CT ~= FFVI. That may
be true but I don't personally think so...
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From: Leonhart4
| Posted: 5/26/2004 9:58:46 AM | Message Detail
Well, that would mean that Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI would
have to be practically equal in popularity because Link to the Past
isn't going to blow this match wide open.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:01:40 AM | Message Detail
That would pretty much mean that CT is on the same level as FFVI - if
ALttP beat it - and yeah I have doubts about that one too. Its not to
farfetched though, it could be possible that FFVI is. *shrug*
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:04:53 AM | Message Detail
The sucky thing about this is that it turns out ALttP wasn`t an equal to OoT like I thought it would be, heh.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:05:36 AM | Message Detail
"It could be we overestimated ALttP and underestimated FFVI."
You think? How 'bout a great big "DUH!" for HM everybody! Been telling you that since oh, I dunno, you started telling us that FF6 had no chance. And the voting is still close enough that by some odd chance LttP could take back the lead. It's not likely, but it could happen. This is why you simply should not just to conclusions based on unrelated bits of inconclusive "evidence". You will, no doubt, eventually stick your foot in your mouth like today has shown. Sure, you can get it correct occasionally, but there's no sense in risking it. I'd rather just play it cool in the middle than to stick myself out on a limb when there isn't much to go by UNLESS pure speculation can't be proven wrong until everyone has long ago forgotten that I brought it up :)
So people, don't jump to conclusions. This may have no bearing on FF7 vs. OoT what so ever. I told you last night I wouldn't even consider FF7 as the clear favorite unless 6 won, and it doesn't look like it will. Give 7 the edge, fine, but don't proclaim it champ yet. The same goes for CT. It looks set to win, but for all we know in a direct matchup CT could be the Kefka and FF6 could be the Crono. Okay, so that's not at all likely, but let's just wait til we see it, okay?
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You think? How 'bout a great big "DUH!" for HM everybody! Been telling you that since oh, I dunno, you started telling us that FF6 had no chance. And the voting is still close enough that by some odd chance LttP could take back the lead. It's not likely, but it could happen. This is why you simply should not just to conclusions based on unrelated bits of inconclusive "evidence". You will, no doubt, eventually stick your foot in your mouth like today has shown. Sure, you can get it correct occasionally, but there's no sense in risking it. I'd rather just play it cool in the middle than to stick myself out on a limb when there isn't much to go by UNLESS pure speculation can't be proven wrong until everyone has long ago forgotten that I brought it up :)
So people, don't jump to conclusions. This may have no bearing on FF7 vs. OoT what so ever. I told you last night I wouldn't even consider FF7 as the clear favorite unless 6 won, and it doesn't look like it will. Give 7 the edge, fine, but don't proclaim it champ yet. The same goes for CT. It looks set to win, but for all we know in a direct matchup CT could be the Kefka and FF6 could be the Crono. Okay, so that's not at all likely, but let's just wait til we see it, okay?
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:07:16 AM | Message Detail
You think? How 'bout a great big "DUH!" for HM everybody!
Shut up. ;)
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Shut up. ;)
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:07:20 AM | Message Detail
"The sucky thing about this is that it turns out ALttP wasn`t an equal to OoT like I thought it would be,"
Or maybe it is...
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From: Leonhart4
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:07:34 AM | Message Detail
Or maybe Final Fantasy VI is a lot stronger than you thought. After
all, you never saw it as a threat to Link to the Past. The contest has
proven its unpredictability once again.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:08:38 AM | Message Detail
Well, if it is then FFVI would have to be incredibly underestimated to
the point where it would be an equal to CT - not that isn`t possible of
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:13:16 AM | Message Detail
Why isn't that possible? Because Kefka isn't equal to Crono? That's a
no ****ing brainer right there. No one in their right mind would think
that he is. Kefka isn't even necessarily the strongest rep for FF6, and
given the direction ceej has taken with the pictures so far he knows
visually that Kefka isn't a vote winner. The fact is Kefk != FF6. Ohter
than that we don't even KNOW where FF6 stands on anything until it goes
into a match and proves it.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:14:30 AM | Message Detail
Did I say it was impossible? Whoops. >< I meant to say that it
isn`t entirely far off, like it could very well be true that FFVI and
CT are equal to each other in strength. I have my doubts about it but
the idea of it is definitely something to think about.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:16:04 AM | Message Detail
Oops... I got confused and read "not that isn`t possible of course. " as if it said "now that isn`t possible of course. "
I won't take point off for the strange wording their, because I'm just as guilty or more so in the past.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:17:00 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, I knew it was terribly worded after I had posted it heh.
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:20:33 AM | Message Detail
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #53 - (1) FINAL FANTASY 7 vs. (4) METAL GEAR SOLID ***
Sales
I'm not going to look at the numbers, FF7 is in the top 20 of all time with around 8 million, and MGS isn't even close.
- Advantage FF7.
Franchises
Golden rule: FF and Zelda > anything.
- Advantage FF7.
GameFAQs Status
Number of FAQs: FF7
Number of reviews: FF7
Average review score: MGS
Board activity: FF7
Yes, MGS wins the review score, thanks to a few really low reviews for FF7. But for the rest, it's a no contest.
- Advantage FF7.
Board Odds Project
PICKS (out of 102)
Final Fantasy 7 - 99
Metal Gear Solid - 1
Also picked: Final Fantasy Tactics (1), Dance Dance Revolution (1)
POINT VALUE
1. Final Fantasy 7 - 4006
14. Metal Gear Solid - 323
...And you expect me to say anything positive about MGS?
- Advantage FF7.
Previous Rounds
MGS had the second closest match of all time, against Final Fantasy... TACTICS!!! You, my good friend, need to grow even a single brain cell if you're even thinking for a split-second about who wins this category.
- Advantage FF7.
Summer Contests / Polls of the Day
Cloud = Champion.
Sephiroth = Finalist.
Snake = Division final loser.
MGS = Favorite Metal Gear game.
FF7 = Favorite Final Fantasy game.
Guess what? FF7 WINS AGAIN! IT'S A MIRACLE!!!
- Advantage FF7.
Intangibles
In the minds of some, Twin Snakes and the bracket vote may have given MGS the win over FFT, but it's totally going to lose one of these. And again a game whose fanboys cream their pants at the thought of it... Twin Snakes too is going splat.
- Advantage FF7.
Conclusion: A sweep? Come on! Even Tetris wasn't swept! To MGS' credit, it won't be beaten nearly as bad as Tetris.
Now that I said that, it's like I'm almost expecting MGS to look like Tetris.
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Sales
I'm not going to look at the numbers, FF7 is in the top 20 of all time with around 8 million, and MGS isn't even close.
- Advantage FF7.
Franchises
Golden rule: FF and Zelda > anything.
- Advantage FF7.
GameFAQs Status
Number of FAQs: FF7
Number of reviews: FF7
Average review score: MGS
Board activity: FF7
Yes, MGS wins the review score, thanks to a few really low reviews for FF7. But for the rest, it's a no contest.
- Advantage FF7.
Board Odds Project
PICKS (out of 102)
Final Fantasy 7 - 99
Metal Gear Solid - 1
Also picked: Final Fantasy Tactics (1), Dance Dance Revolution (1)
POINT VALUE
1. Final Fantasy 7 - 4006
14. Metal Gear Solid - 323
...And you expect me to say anything positive about MGS?
- Advantage FF7.
Previous Rounds
MGS had the second closest match of all time, against Final Fantasy... TACTICS!!! You, my good friend, need to grow even a single brain cell if you're even thinking for a split-second about who wins this category.
- Advantage FF7.
Summer Contests / Polls of the Day
Cloud = Champion.
Sephiroth = Finalist.
Snake = Division final loser.
MGS = Favorite Metal Gear game.
FF7 = Favorite Final Fantasy game.
Guess what? FF7 WINS AGAIN! IT'S A MIRACLE!!!
- Advantage FF7.
Intangibles
In the minds of some, Twin Snakes and the bracket vote may have given MGS the win over FFT, but it's totally going to lose one of these. And again a game whose fanboys cream their pants at the thought of it... Twin Snakes too is going splat.
- Advantage FF7.
Conclusion: A sweep? Come on! Even Tetris wasn't swept! To MGS' credit, it won't be beaten nearly as bad as Tetris.
Now that I said that, it's like I'm almost expecting MGS to look like Tetris.
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From: DomaDragoon
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:42:59 AM | Message Detail
If I could laugh like Albedo, I'd be doing so now.
Memo to self: If you ever have children, keep them away from smitelf.
BTW, who is going to submit art for the next round? (speaking of what CJayC wrote on the front page.) I know I'm doing something for Ocarina of Time right now.
I don't have the talent to do so, but I can come up with ideas... (as should everyone else)
SMB 3 vs. Zelda 1: Mario's pose in the slot game/match game vs. "Let's play money making game!". Well, I think it would be funny.
CT vs. LttP: Magus vs. Ganon, the rematch!
FF VII vs. OoT: Miss. Cloud. vs. Sheik.
Starcraft vs. whoever: Mass Carriers, duh.
Wind Waker vs. whoever: Cell-shade both pics.
FFX: Tidus getting hit by lightning.
SSBM: Sandbag.
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BTW, who is going to submit art for the next round? (speaking of what CJayC wrote on the front page.) I know I'm doing something for Ocarina of Time right now.
I don't have the talent to do so, but I can come up with ideas... (as should everyone else)
SMB 3 vs. Zelda 1: Mario's pose in the slot game/match game vs. "Let's play money making game!". Well, I think it would be funny.
CT vs. LttP: Magus vs. Ganon, the rematch!
FF VII vs. OoT: Miss. Cloud. vs. Sheik.
Starcraft vs. whoever: Mass Carriers, duh.
Wind Waker vs. whoever: Cell-shade both pics.
FFX: Tidus getting hit by lightning.
SSBM: Sandbag.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:46:25 AM | Message Detail
o_O?
In my e-mail to CJayC, I told him that he didn`t have to do everything in the contest by himself, and that he could ask for our help. It`s not like we wouldn`t be willing to give it or anything.
*looks at the front page*
Petitions apparently do help. Interesting.
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In my e-mail to CJayC, I told him that he didn`t have to do everything in the contest by himself, and that he could ask for our help. It`s not like we wouldn`t be willing to give it or anything.
*looks at the front page*
Petitions apparently do help. Interesting.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 10:47:30 AM | Message Detail
"Memo to self: If you ever have children, keep them away from smitelf."
That should simply be added to the laws of common sense. I swear the woman is going to eat her first child out of instinct.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 11:23:30 AM | Message Detail
The sheer number of people who are still overly confident in favor of LttP after this is saddening.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 11:26:06 AM | Message Detail
There are people on this board still confident in ALttP? I figured they
would all be proclaiming Square`s domination by now. On a side note, I
believe ALttP will still win but I`m far from as confident as I was
last night. But with CT being the favorite that it is I`m surprised
some of the board feels that way.
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From: redline15
| Posted: 5/26/2004 11:27:33 AM | Message Detail
well, i can live with this result.
especially since chrono trigger probably is more popular than ff6...which would mean these are the last four points lttp is going to cost me.
hopefully this will show the zelda fanboys something they should've remembered all along:
never count out an ff game.
even if it doesn't star cloud.
...of course, even fft couldn't manage to show them that...
but i can dream, can't i?
Doom > Super Metroid and FFVI > CT
i can understand the logic behind the first claim: the extrapolated results.
if the current scores hold, they would show that doom would defeat super metroid.
but, as slowflake said earlier...those results have been tainted by "sff."
this is why ulti was complaining about this system: there are some factors it cannot take into account.
as for the second claim...
...we'll just have to wait and see on that one...
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especially since chrono trigger probably is more popular than ff6...which would mean these are the last four points lttp is going to cost me.
hopefully this will show the zelda fanboys something they should've remembered all along:
never count out an ff game.
even if it doesn't star cloud.
...of course, even fft couldn't manage to show them that...
but i can dream, can't i?
Doom > Super Metroid and FFVI > CT
i can understand the logic behind the first claim: the extrapolated results.
if the current scores hold, they would show that doom would defeat super metroid.
but, as slowflake said earlier...those results have been tainted by "sff."
this is why ulti was complaining about this system: there are some factors it cannot take into account.
as for the second claim...
...we'll just have to wait and see on that one...
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 11:28:50 AM | Message Detail
Blind fanboys, that's all it can be, right? It's infuriating to see
people who think that the favor is still for LttP. It's never done
anything to earn that sort of expectation, and right now all it's doing
is showing that Super Metroid was nothing to get worked up about. Some
people just can't think reasonably I guess.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 11:30:52 AM | Message Detail
"since chrono trigger probably is more popular than ff6"
On GameFAQs there is no probably in that sentance.
And on the discussion of SFF... Sonic 2 over SoM? Totally incorrect. SoM all the way. Dumb SFF and dumb extrapolated rankings that can't account for it.
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On GameFAQs there is no probably in that sentance.
And on the discussion of SFF... Sonic 2 over SoM? Totally incorrect. SoM all the way. Dumb SFF and dumb extrapolated rankings that can't account for it.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/26/2004 11:31:16 AM | Message Detail
I don`t know what in the world could make them think ALttP is a favorite right now.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/26/2004 11:34:22 AM | Message Detail
I can't figure out why they ever thought it was the favorite.
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