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Contest Stats & Discussion - Part 19
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:21:09 AM | Message Detail
FF7 showing no signs weakness at all. Hopefully OoT can counter with an amazing showcase of power, though it won't mean much unless it pulls something ridiculous like 90%.
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25-19 1st Place NL East
Next up: Atl Braves
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:31:10 AM | Message Detail
Peeps of GameFAQ's! Do I have your attention?
All of you who dwell here and post away your lives! :) Well it's time for...the newly modernized...

Steve Illumina Speaks

Indeed it is so, the legendary and ever humorous commentary rages on from the soon to be 350 Karma Legend, to offer some lighthearted yet well-honed levity, here on this the stats thread... the one bastion of proven intelligence on this overly fanboy dominated board.

And so it proceeds, with the fanboy poster child #2 hanging up yet another one alongside the other poster child's trophy... here in the Golden Age Division

ROUND 3: Match LIV (54...)

(3)Goldeneye vs (2)Zelda Ocarina

Steve's Prediction: Zelda by 71%
Steve's Bracket: Zelda
LUE's Pick: "All your bases are belong to Zelda"
Upset Chances: Ha! Yah Right! Its a Zelda game, and we know how the fanboys feel about THAT this spring...

Comments: After fanboy prop #1 FFVII wins, prop #2 Zelda Ocarina must do the same, so here comes relaxation match redux, as the Nintendites' greatest hope comes charging along, leaving a GoldenEye in its wake. So here is a 'tribute', to the idiot Zelda fanboys who cost me my glory this spring...

Bud Light Presents: Real Men of Genius...

*Real Men of Genius*

Today we salute you, Mr. Blind Zelda Fanboy Guy!

*Mr. Blind Zelda Fanboy Guy*

Your blind devotion in the face of adversity has resulted in breaking brackets like my own, and still you keep on yapping...

*Zelda is da bomb!*

Ignorant of the quality of other games, you see only through green shaded lenses, and with nary a thought you support the elven hero...

*FFVI is garbage!*

So grab a nice cold Bud Light, Lover of the Link, for without you, maybe, just maybe, I would have won.

*Long live Link & Zelda!*

Life is so unfair sometimes...lets just get into the summer tourney now please!

Historical Insights: Goldeneye became a cult classic of epic proportions, and is still loved 10 yrs or so later. Played in basements across the land, kids like me back in those N64 days would have a great time piggin' out on Doritos while whacking eachother in multiplayer. First of its kind I believe on the consoles, and first to do it right. It still holds up today.

Zelda Ocarina...well it took the series into 3D, and did it pretty flawlessly, earning Nintendo the accolades of many a gamer, magazine, trade group, etc. It also helped lay the Saturn to rest...

Why Zelda Will Prevail: Voting blocks: Nintendites blind loyalty is unquestioned...they knocked off my dear FFVI, meaning Goldeneye is worm food next.

Why Goldeneye Wont Prevail: It is respected, loved, and will be supported by those who love it, but its got no shot here. It is outclassed and outmatched. Period.

Take a moment to remember...all the fun you had playing multiplayer! All the fun you had whacking Gohma in 3D with the bow & arrows!

Probable Results: Another boring match that looks like something out of the 1st round, for as the 4 best seeds made it to the Sweet 16, the 2 best will make it to the Elite 8. Zelda by 70% plus easy.

Random Zelda Fanboy Quotes: "LTTP is da best game ever!" -A nerd, "If LTTP gets 56.6% or more on FFVI, my extrapolated inverse rankings show it will beat Chrono too!" -A geek, "Its SFF baby, and us Nintendrones know it!" -A Zelda lover, "No way FFVI beats LTTP, Nintendo rules thats why!" -A kiddie.
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:34:55 AM | Message Detail
Hmm, 204 people are ahead of me. I wonder if, if WW and FF10 win, enough brackets will lose points for me to move in the top 50.

History isn't on Starcraft's and SSBM's side, though. Any entry that won two consecutive matches with below 60% never won the following one.

Mario in 2002 (beat Cloud and Crono, lost to Link)
Jill in 2002 (beat Kirby and Bomberman, lost to Link)
Samus in 2002 (beat Ryu and Sonic, lost to Sephiroth)
Sephiroth in 2002 (beat Megaman and Samus, lost to Link)
Sonic in 2003 (beat Zero and Aeris, lost to Cloud)
Mario in 2003 (beat Shadow and Crono, lost to Sephiroth)
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 073/080 --- Matches: 46/52 --- Rank: 00205/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7
From: DaruniaTheKing | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:35:44 AM | Message Detail
And all lost to one of the uber-three. Ironic.
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FIESTAAA!! CUÑAAAAAAAOO!!! BOOOOMBAAAA!!! ESPAÑA VA BIEN!!!! CERO PATATERO!!!
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:36:55 AM | Message Detail
Ha ha ha ha. Blaming his favorites' death... on fanboys. How strangely... fanboyish. I thought you were above that Steve.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 073/080 --- Matches: 46/52 --- Rank: 00205/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:40:14 AM | Message Detail
All the characters you mentioned lost to either Cloud, Link, or Sephiroth. Games aren`t characters, and I still think SSBM has a damned good chance to win that match.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:40:55 AM | Message Detail
Well since my final four picks are all still alive and likely to be after FFX wins on Sunday (Mario, Chrono, FFVII and FFX), I can still in theory run the table and finish at 180/192.

Thinking of it that way, FFVI losing yesterday is not so bad...though I am still annoyed!

So, Ulti, to answer your question, no I dont have SSBM going further! I did originally but I changed it a week before voting started. I hope I dont regret that change.
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:42:20 AM | Message Detail
Ha ha ha ha. Blaming his favorites' death... on fanboys. How strangely... fanboyish. I thought you were above that Steve.

I was..but..umm...ill get back to you when I think of a good argument...

*Curses...foiled again!*
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: DpObliVion | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:43:53 AM | Message Detail
I think Super Smash Bros. Melee has a pretty good chance to beat Final Fantasy X. The Final Fantasy series is big, but this match is basically Final Fantasy vs. Everything else.

Go SSBM!

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He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever.
Shin: A device for finding furniture in the dark.
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:44:36 AM | Message Detail
Heh I thought of one!

Slow u got mad when Duck Hunt lost to DK! I remember you were upset and annoyed. So it happens to us all. Even the most objective of us all can be rattled here and there.

I wont complain anymore though...I am over it now. You got me with a good point and I am embarrassed now..so..yah.
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:47:24 AM | Message Detail
A multiplayer game can only go so far. I don't think Melee is upto the task to take down a game that nearly rivals FF6 in popularity. Or maybe I am just underestimating Melee since I always hated the game with burning passion.
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25-19 1st Place NL East
Next up: Atl Braves
From: Holgu | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:49:39 AM | Message Detail
So grab a nice cold Bud Light, Lover of the Link, for without you, maybe, just maybe, I would have won.

Erm...most the fanboys aren't nearly old enough to drink...grab a nice cold Mountain Dew, mayhaps?
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It's the words that we speak, that make a man a freak...
The attitude, the ignorance, all reasons that we seek - Wargasm
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/27/2004 6:59:39 AM | Message Detail
Oh, I had plenty of reasons to be pissed that day. I had a tough final that day, I was going 3/5 - and eventually 11/15 - and I feel empty when there's no happy end.

Bleh, anyway. Time for more num - wait, one more thing. That big three thing... Jill would have lost to anyone in the Sweet 16 that year, short of Lara Croft, Pac-Man or Scorpion. Sonic would've lost to anyone in the Elite 8 last year, too. We're only talking matches in round 3 and after for obvious reasons, so the chances of meeting one of the big three increases. Sephiroth wasn't exactly big three in 2002 either. Whatever. A first is a first, and if Starcraft *gasp* and SSBM push their luck further, good for them. I'd be happy if SSBM won, and I admit it would be gold to see Starcraft do so as well, but either would wreck my chances at the leaderboard, which is my main worry right now.

Numbers, now.

EXTRAPOLATED RANKINGS FOR LOWER DIVISION 16

1. 50.00% - (6) Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
2. 47.34% - (2) Final Fantasy 6
3. 26.00% - (3) Super Metroid
4. 25.83% - (10) Doom
5. 25.49% - (15) Mortal Kombat
6. 22.19% - (7) Earthbound
7. 08.85% - (11) Gunstar Heroes
8. 08.69% - (14) Phantasy Star 4

Even more freaky stuff, this time for Super Metroid... it would beat Doom with 50.33%, Mortal Kombat with 50.98%, and Earthbound with 57.33%. If this isn't SFF, I don't know what is.

Yesterday looked like Cloud vs. Sonic in terms of wake-up call, doncha agree? And today would be Mario vs. Sephiroth, as in, "Yeah, we're for real, *****es."
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 073/080 --- Matches: 46/52 --- Rank: 00205/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 5/27/2004 8:39:15 AM | Message Detail
Well, they had to remind the mases that they are still here to win, didn't they? It may not be what everone wants, but FF7 still has some of the best secret weapons going into the next match. Zelda, however, threw out everything and the kitchen sink just a little too early. I just can't wait to see who wins, slow and steady or running start.

70% on MGS is harsh, I couldn't see Cloud doing that to Snake, so I can say with confidence that FF7 is still going very strong despite the predictions of its inevtable demise. OoT, I would imagine, could do the same or worse to Goldeneye. In fact, I'd be completely surprised if it didn't. So then, let's all bust out with our coins, and prepare to toss them next week.
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/27/2004 9:13:41 AM | Message Detail
No doubt, FF7 vs Ocarina will be the best match of the tourney. Better than the final I do believe.
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: smitelf | Posted: 5/27/2004 11:31:44 AM | Message Detail
steve, it *is* the final...
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 71/80, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VII
From: Tai | Posted: 5/27/2004 11:51:58 AM | Message Detail
Erm...most the fanboys aren't nearly old enough to drink...grab a nice cold Mountain Dew, mayhaps?

Sprite for me, please. :-) *sips* yum.

Steve: So the fanboys = FF6's demise. -___-. Yeah..what..ever..ok...yeah..what..the..[....]...ever.

Oh oh, you know what else? They will lead all 4 Zeldas to the Final Four.

MUAHHAHAHAHHAHAAH...

If Starcraft beats Wind Waker...I swear...>_<'....no, there's no possibility. Yeah..WW is the better game. Thank you. :-)

Yeah..and on Saturday...when I get to see it all happen instead of being at school...yeah..I will laugh..at all of you who acutally had faith...MUHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

Ha....ha....>_>'


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Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai.
From: King Morgoth | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:02:57 PM | Message Detail
I`m still wondering how many of us have SSBM in the Final Four.
*raises hand*
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Match#51 - 1st in Spread Betting, 2nd in Betting, 3rd in the Oracle, T-176th (70pts)
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:04:08 PM | Message Detail
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #54 - (3) GOLDENEYE vs. (2) LEGEND OF ZELDA: OCARINA OF TIME

Sales

I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe that Goldeneye edges out OoT by a bit. Of course, both are still multi-million sellers.

- Advantage GOLDENEYE.

Franchises

We're voting on games, not other media. Look what happened to the Simpsons.

- Advantage OOT.

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: OoT
Number of reviews: OoT
Average review score: Goldeneye
Board activity: OoT

I'll say it again, for a top contender OoT has quite the bad reviews, but it defends itself nicely everywhere else.

- Advantage OOT.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 98
Goldeneye - 2
Also picked: Super Mario 64 (1), Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (1)

POINT VALUE
3. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 2280
17. Goldeneye - 255

Except for Starcraft, Goldeneye is by far the lowest on the list among the games remaining. I think these numbers represent Goldeneye's chances well, heh.

- Advantage OOT.

Previous Rounds

LttP proved that getting SFF on another big name in your company isn't necessarily a good sign later on. But it's still quite impressive... and let's be honest, OoT would've done so much better than 60% on SotN it isn't even funny.

- Advantage OOT.

Summer Contests / Polls of the Day

- UNAVAILABLE.

Intangibles

For the first time since Link/Sephiroth, we get a decent shot of Adult Link. Wonder why the reaction was almost null. Not that it matters anyway.

I expect the Zelda name to perform its magic again, though. Even if it's one of the very popular shooters here, it's going to get a sizable beating. After all, it IS Zelda, and the most popular one at that.

- Advantage OOT.

Conclusion: This seals the deal. There WILL be a FF7/OoT match.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 073/080 --- Matches: 46/52 --- Rank: 00205/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7
From: Garsha | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:04:25 PM | Message Detail
Hey Slowflake, can you give me the extrapolated rankings for the upper division 8, please? Never got to see it.
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Points: 68/76/192
My pick for today:
(1)FF7 over (4)MGS - Tomorrow: (2)Zelda: OoT over (11)Castlevania: SotN
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:10:33 PM | Message Detail
steve, it *is* the final...

Well yah it is, but it isn't at the same time, ya know?

Oh who cares! i dont have to explain it to you, I know u are smart enough to get it! :) :)

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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: JaKyL25 | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:18:47 PM | Message Detail
Hey Ulti (if I can be so bold as to call you that), do you realize that of the 5 people ahead of you, only one also has FFVII picked as the winner?

You have a VERY decent shot of winning this whole shebang, and even a better one at coming in at least second, I think.

Premature congratulations.
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"If you want Bells & Whistles, I suggest you attend the Circus."--Lance F'n Storm
From: creativename | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:26:49 PM | Message Detail
steve:
Goldeneye became a cult classic of epic proportions

Goldeneye is about as much of a non-cult game as you can get ;) This was a mainstream hit for sure. To share an anecdote, I played it a lot in the dorms back in the day, with people that just didn't play video games.

SlangEdter:
A multiplayer game can only go so far. I don't think Melee is upto the task to take down a game that nearly rivals FF6 in popularity.

Good point about the multi-player thing. SSBM has proved to be at least a somewhat tough opponent though, and both it and Final Fantasy X have been underwhelming so far. I don't think Final Fantasy X can get less than 55% here, and I would not be surprised at 60%, but then I've overrated Final Fantasy X throughout the whole contest.

Slowflake:
I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe that Goldeneye edges out OoT by a bit. Of course, both are still multi-million sellers.

According to our good ol' source of numbers:
http://www.the-magicbox.com/Chart-USPlatinum.shtml
Goldeneye sold 5.01 million US, Ocarina of Time sold 3.57 million.

I don't think tomorrow's match will tell us too much. Goldeneye might do significantly better than Mario 64, and we've never seen a real-life pic I think so many that'll get the movie fanboys into action, bumping it up a couple points ;) Anything between 68%-75% shouldn't change our perceptions much. It's still unclear whether MGS or Goldeneye is stronger.

I don't think today's match told us much either, except for taking care of the idea that all things with Final Fantasy in their name were more equal than suspected, which most of us didn't care for anyway.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.
From: steve illumina | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:28:53 PM | Message Detail
If one of our own here on this hallowed thread finishes top 5...they will earn the respect of Steve Illumina forever :)

I root for all of us experts/regulars here on this thread to do good in these tourneys. Some of us have made the leaderboard and dropped, others have made it and are still there, and still others are on the outside peeking in...but getting closer in most cases.

Should be a nice 10 days to come!
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SCK24: 76/88 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: Angstroms Prower | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:30:11 PM | Message Detail
According to our good ol' source of numbers:
http://www.the-magicbox.com/Chart-USPlatinum.shtml
Goldeneye sold 5.01 million US, Ocarina of Time sold 3.57 million.


Factoring in the fact that OoT sold 1.45 millions in Japan (while Goldeneye probably bombed here, if it even was released), and that Goldeneye did probably about as well as OoT in Europe, and they are quite close in sales actually. Goldeneye probably still edges OoT out here.
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From: JaKyL25 | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:32:04 PM | Message Detail
Does that include the two separate Gamecube rereleases, though?

I imagine many new people were introduced to Ocarina through the Zelda collection package.
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"If you want Bells & Whistles, I suggest you attend the Circus."--Lance F'n Storm
From: creativename | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:32:52 PM | Message Detail
Factoring in the fact that OoT sold 1.45 millions in Japan (while Goldeneye probably bombed here, if it even was released), and that Goldeneye did probably about as well as OoT in Europe, and they are quite close in sales actually. Goldeneye probably still edges OoT out here.

We already knew that they were about equal worldwide:
http://www.ownt.com/qtakes/2003/gamestats/gamestats.shtm
And that Goldeneye probably didn't do nearly as well in Japan as Ocarina of Time. Pretty much only North American sales are relevant for contest purposes though. (if any sales are ever relevant)
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:35:40 PM | Message Detail
Hey Slowflake, can you give me the extrapolated rankings for the upper division 8, please? Never got to see it.

Woops, totally forgot to update my Excel file.

www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls

Everything's in the "Rankings" sheet.

And I like Ulti's chances of winning it all... if SSBM wins its division, of course. Other than that, I think our picks are the exact same, except I have WW coming out on top in the division final. I just hope he won't need the tiebreaker... considering how we probably all went way over, his is probably crappy as well.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 073/080 --- Matches: 46/52 --- Rank: 00205/40940 --- Today's pick: FF7
From: King Morgoth | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:40:09 PM | Message Detail
This will probably get lost and nobody will see it, but I thought it would be nice to calculate the confidence levels of the top half of the Elite 8 (aka how confident were the brackets who had it there that it would win its match)

Confidence levels of the top half of the Elite 8
Super Mario Bros. 3
86.56% vs Metal Gear
83.23% vs Metroid
76.26% vs Final Fantasy

The Legend of Zelda
99.02% vs Adventure
88.55% vs Donkey Kong
81.27% vs Tetris

Chrono Trigger
92.20% vs Secret of Mana
79.39% vs Super Mario RPG
84.63% vs Super Mario World

Zelda: A Link to the Past
97.75% vs Gunstar Heroes
75.11% vs Super Metroid
53.90% vs Final Fantasy VI

I'll let you guys analyse this, but to me it's surprising that people with Chrono Trigger were more confident against SMW than against SMRPG O_o
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Match#51 - 1st in Spread Betting, 2nd in Betting, 3rd in the Oracle, T-176th (70pts)
From: Starion | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:41:10 PM | Message Detail
And that Goldeneye probably didn't do nearly as well in Japan as Ocarina of Time.

You don't know the half of it. Lol.

Goldeneye
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Japan- 29,264
USA- 5,019,092

Of course, votes from Japan is a non-factor in this contest so those sales numbers don't mean much at all.

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Nominate Death for the 2004 Character Contest
From: Starion | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:41:48 PM | Message Detail
are not is.
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Nominate Death for the 2004 Character Contest
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:45:11 PM | Message Detail
If SSBM wins the division, I have a damned good chance I think, barring insanity in the hypothetical SMB3/Chrono Trigger matchup. But as I`ve said, SMB3 and LTTP are of the same strength. If Chrono Trigger beats LTTP convincingly, I think it can do the same to Mario 3. But this is a Crono/Mario duel, so who knows.

Should Final Fantasy 7 beat OOT and SSBM make the Final Four, it`s not like there`s any chance in hell of SSBM beaing FF7. Not that I wouldn`t mind seeing this, however. MY bracket be damned.

Oh, and Goldeneye sold 8 million copies, OOT 10 million copies. But I`m roughly 90% sure of this. Might want to look it up yourself.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: dethwing | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:48:59 PM | Message Detail
I'm still amazed at how acurate the BOP went. With the solo exception of Starcraft, anyone who followed the majority would be perfect, putting them at minus 3, and in the top 5 of all brackets.

That's just amazing.
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I've got nothing to say.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:56:58 PM | Message Detail
When you take the majority from a small sample of elites, that`s what happens. That doesn`t help the overall contest prediction, which I believe is the lowest of the three so far.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 12:59:00 PM | Message Detail
Hey Tai, do you want to bet accounts that we aren`t getting an all-Zelda Final Four? Not saying I will, I`m just curious.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 1:48:26 PM | Message Detail
Hey redline, where does your name come from? I just saw a Rhinotaur in FF6 use an attack called Redline, oddly enough.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 5/27/2004 1:53:01 PM | Message Detail
Ulti, are you more confident with SSBM beating FFX or with SSBM beating Windwaker? Because I have just ssbm beating FFX, but should melee win, it has a really good shot at windwaker.
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From: swirIdude | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:04:39 PM | Message Detail
Never before have I felt more confident that all Zelda's will lose in the Elite Eight. LttP and Wind Waker are my biggest worries, and since LttP looks like it will lose to CT, Waker is now my only problem. I have SMB3 over CT though, so if CT wins that, a shot at the leaderboard is unlikely, but at least I'm only 1 point out of the top 50! OMG!
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:20:25 PM | Message Detail
The only Zelda game that I see as not making it would be ALttP. While CT has a slight edge it could very well lose that day, but the other three are still looking good - despite me wanting SMB3 to win. But honestly, the all-Zelda final four is pretty much long gone now.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:26:22 PM | Message Detail
I will really fume if Zelda: WW is the only game in that series to make the Final 4. It's the worst of the 4 games in the contest, so it deserves to make it the LEAST... I'd also hate to see FFX win it, also, since I believe it's one of the lesser FF games. My hope now rests in SSBM. (Unless Starcraft gets freaky and makes it out of there)

Oh, and be careful not to overestimate Goldeneye...looking at past performances, I'd say it's at the same popularity level as MGS, perhaps even higher. (Expected 62% against Perfect Dark) 71% against MGS is really mind boggling to me...it seems to be the most impressive victory against a strong opponent. (Unless we've we've overestimated MGS still, which I say is likely)

Oh, and I just realized that all my division champs except for the 128-bit division are #1 seeds. Yipes. I don't think that's likely to happen.

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From: AngerFork | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:32:41 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and I just realized that all my division champs except for the 128-bit division are #1 seeds. Yipes. I don't think that's likely to happen.

Each one of those is still possible...
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From this day forth, I shall work with my brothers, Smiling Spoon and Indifferent Knife, and shall let no possible peril hinder my path toward true justice!!
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:32:58 PM | Message Detail
I think Metal Gear Solid is not being overestimated at all. FF7 is just that strong.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:33:54 PM | Message Detail
I also have 3 1 seeds in the Elite 8.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:34:54 PM | Message Detail
Holy hell, we`re about to hit the 20th Discussion topic. That`s insane. One more of these things filled up, and we`ll see a whopping 10,000 posts among us statheads. That`s is absolutely amazing.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:35:16 PM | Message Detail
That`s is = That is. My typing sucks today.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: Phediuk | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:36:28 PM | Message Detail
Sorry for my absence these past couple of days. My internet connection was on the fritz...

...it appears that LttP only managed 52% against FFVI. Looks like its match against Chrono Trigger is gonna be a good 'un...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:36:51 PM | Message Detail
Oh, to answer a question from ahile ago, the Wind Waker can actually win this division despite being one of the worst games in the series. Sucks, doesn`t it?
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:37:30 PM | Message Detail
...it appears that LttP only managed 52% against FFVI. Looks like its match against Chrono Trigger is gonna be a good 'un...

Only this time around, the Square title is the favorite. Chrono Trigger is more popular than FF6, and should perform as such.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:37:55 PM | Message Detail
Hopefully Melee can at least beat FFX then.
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Silly Rabbit...Trix are for....kids.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.-Old Klingon Proverb
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 5/27/2004 2:38:05 PM | Message Detail
Hiya.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
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