The Heroes division definitely would be incredibly stacked with a ton of strong characters. Otherwise, not to bad except for the Samus and Sephiroth deal. Though I`d imagine Ganondorf/Bowser would face him in the division finals which is pretty cool.
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good point...
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I'm sure she's closer to Ryu than Ken is.

I don't know about that.

Maybe she is, maybe she isn't (though I think she is), all I want is a different SF character have a shot at this & I think she's the best candidate. (I'd like to see Sub-Zero replace Scorpion as well, for the sake of someone different)

Also, while this would ruin the contest it'd still be better than brackets based on company...

Heroes
Heroines
Villains
Supporting Characters

Yes, the two middle groups would obviously be dominated by Samus and Sephiroth respectively, but it's still better than company based brackets AND it's quirky.

It IS quirky...and I like it!

maybe ganondorf, hm, but we had the bowser cloud battle, which was pretty bad for poor bowser.
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Round 2 exits that Peach could beat? Hm...

Fox is a maybe. The Mario series is bigger, but I can still see Fox pulling that one out of his tail... maybe.

Ganon? I doubt that

Luigi? No freaking way.

KOS-MOS... Notre Game would snap and murder us all.

Auron. Nope.

Yoshi? Can't see it.

Master Chief? It'd be real tough for someone like Peach.

Zero... no way, never, not in a million years.

Shadow... if Mario had that much trouble I can't see Peach beating him.

Kefka... I'd give the edge to the sand on his boots over Peach.

Kirby, can't see her beating him.

Max Payne? Sure, why not.

Knuckles doesn't seem likely.

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Oh, and Ertyu would snap.

DK, why not, I mean, who can't beat DK?

Zelda. No.
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Link, Cloud, Mario, Crono, Megaman, Sonic, and Solid Snake all in one group.

The message boards will burn in flames before that division's over.

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Dear God, I see Peach beating a lot more than what you listed. And Peach having trouble with Fox? Are you kidding? -_-
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"The message boards will burn in flames before that division's over. "

I had also thought of an anti-hero division... which could kinda get Snake and Cloud out of that mess as they could loosely be defined as anti-heroes... but then again if Ceej is going to make a total crap-shoot of a division (128 bit) why not make a flamewar waiting to happen?
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I wouldn't be too surprised if she could take down Luigi too. It would be nice if she finally got a game, she should have had one by know, they could go with the her "now its my time to do something other than be captured" look, for it.



POSSIBLE Paper Mario SPOILERS She did get a minimal part in Paper Mario, and that fat shy guy telling her "Where did you learn how to cook, truck driving school?" remains one of my favorites.
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Naw, in the Mario universe I believe Luigi ranks above Peach.
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Fox is a maybe. The Mario series is bigger, but I can still see Fox pulling that one out of his tail... maybe.

She`d beat him without a doubt.

Ganon? I doubt that

No way she`d win.

Luigi? No freaking way.

Nope.

KOS-MOS... Notre Game would snap and murder us all.

I definitely think she would.

Auron. Nope.

Nope.

Yoshi? Can't see it.

Eh, its possible. It`d be close but I`d give the win to Yoshi.

Master Chief? It'd be real tough for someone like Peach.

Master Chief barely made it past Felix, Peach would definitely win.

Zero... no way, never, not in a million years.

Nope.

Shadow... if Mario had that much trouble I can't see Peach beating him.

Possible.

Kefka... I'd give the edge to the sand on his boots over Peach.

I would easily see Peach win this.

Kirby, can't see her beating him.

I think she would, he`s far from the cream of the crop among Nintendo.

Max Payne? Sure, why not.

Easily.

Knuckles doesn't seem likely.

Eh, possible but I`d give the advantage to Knuckles.

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Oh, and Ertyu would snap.

More than likely not.

DK, why not, I mean, who can't beat DK?

Easily.

Zelda. No.

Nope.
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I wouldn't be too surprised if she could take down Luigi too.

Possible, but among Mario fans Luigi definitely a higher rank.
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Also, I just noticed we are moving through topics insanely fast heh.
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"Possible, but among Mario fans Luigi definitely a higher rank."

No doubt. And I will give you the maybe on Knux and Shadow... and I'd favor Peach over Fox but not enough to say it's deffinate. KOS-MOS is too unsure in my mind... and other than those I pretty much have to stand with what I already said, except that Kirby migth lose if Ertyu manages to hack the servers. :) Okay, so he could lose, but outside of Mario 2 I don't think Peach has ever been cool enough to go rounds with Kirby... and that's saying a lot. Because, really...Kirby... cool?
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Heroes
Heroines
Villains
Supporting Characters

Interesting. There are a few divisions that would interest me.
-Heroes/Heroines
-Villains/Villainesses
-Supporting Characters
-Inanimate Objects (See: Tetris blocks, Starcraft carriers, the world of Filgaia, and similar things)

Or how about this:
-A-M
-N-Z

Or this:
-Human
-Anthropomorphic
-Mechanical
-Other
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-Human
-Anthropomorphic
-Mechanical
-Other

What? That's so biased in favore of Sonic it's not even funny! Just because he can't win a division doesn't mean you need to put him with all furries. And Mechanical...whoo boy, that'd be hard to fill, not to mention how hard it'd be to not over-stack the human division even more so than an all heroes division.
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So, it seems you think that if Peach would have a harder time with Luigi than Yoshi, you think Luigi would beat Yoshi?
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"She did kick a whole lot of ass in SMRPG. =)"

Point taken, though everybody else was still cooler.
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Here's a true wild card if you've ever seen one: Ryu Hayabusa. He's a ninja, he recently had a game come out, boosting his popularity, he's a ninja, he was from a good series of old school games, he's a ninja, he's never been in a character contest, and did I mention he's a ninja? I think Ryu has a good chance of a division finals match, if not victory.

Wildcard, yes. Deserving, yes. Division finals? No. I can still see Alucard beatign Hayabusa.
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Okay, lemme try to fill in some of these divisions Chichiri setup of the top of my head, I'll skip heroes since it's a little too easy:

Heroines -- Samus, Aeris, Lara, Jill, Peach, KOS-MOS, Chun-Li, Morrigan, Terra, Yuna
Villains -- Sephiroth, Bowser, Dr Wily, Robotnik/Eggman, Ganondorf, Luca Blight, Ridley, Shadow
Supporting Characters -- Luigi, Yoshi, Frog, Knuckles, Tails, Auron

Again, this is off the top of my head, anyone you would consider adding or removing?

I think Ryu has a good chance of a division finals match, if not victory.

You realize who he would have to beat to get to that spot? And to win would be even more unreachable.
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Here's a true wild card if you've ever seen one: Ryu Hayabusa.

I wonder how many anti-votes he might get for having an association to the X-Box and the DoA series >>

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How well do you think Captain Falcon, Marth, Roy, Mr. Game&Watch, Master Hand and Sandbag would do?

With the exception of Captain Falcon, I'd say all of these characters recieved most of their exposure from Super Smash Brothers Melee(with the last two being SSBM exclusives).

F-Zero GX's Story Mode defintiely helps out Captain Falcon, but I doubt enough people have played the game and even if they have the game's difficulty may prevent them from completing it.

Marth and Roy look cool, have swords and speak Japanese, so they are pretty much locks for getting out of Round 1 unless they face someone like Link or Cloud. Marth is also considered a top tier character in SSBM which can't hurt, while Roy has "teh fire". There is also the receintly released Fire Emblem game, but it features neither of these characters. I don't think Roy even has a Fire Emblem game yet.

Mr. Game&Watch has old school appeal, but it pretty much unknown outside of SSBM. He doesn't exactly have the looks to go far either. Possible fodder?

SSBM is doing quite well in the Spring Contest, so it should probably get one of its exclusve characters in. Master Hand appears as the final boss in SSB and the final boss in SSBM's classic mode but is once again unknown outside of the SSB world. Sandbag is the star of SSBM's Home run contest. Its entire purpose is to get the crap beaten out of it before being smashed 3000+ft so it works out for the purposes of this contest.
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Supporting Characters -- Luigi, Yoshi, Frog, Knuckles, Tails, Auron

What? No Magus or Zero?

...come to think of it, would Zero be put in the Heroes division or the Supportiing division in that format? >>

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what does anyone think about splitting the characters into divisions by genre?

1. RPGs
2. Action and FPS
3. Adventure and Platform
4. Everything Else ( Puzzle, Arcade, Fighting, Racing, Strategy)

that might work.


oh and Ryu Hyabusa (sp?) has a good shot at making it. he could win a match, possibly two with very lucky seeding, but there's no way he'd make the Elite Eight.

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Magus, heh I knew I was forgeting someone, & yeah I was thinking of putting Zero in the heroes unless there wasn't enough space for him.

I'd call Magus a supporting character. I'd say Vincent and Geno should also get in as supporting characters, assuming such a system should come to be. I think Ryu (SF2) could be argued into the supporting characters as there isn't meant to be one main character in a fighting game (though obviously there is). DK could be a villain. Tommy Vercetti probably should be with the villains :)

Yes, I know there isn't a way to fix one division from being overstacked, but if it's company based we have two divisions that are over stacked yet still wont be exciting. Awful.
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Captain Falcon could do pretty well. He has the F-Zero series backing him to and the recent F-Zero GX and AX so I could see him making it to round 2.

Game & Watch is probably obvious fodder. Though those oldschool games he had were fun. =)

Marth could definitely do well, swordsman, held in high regard in SSBM, has had a Fire Emblem game so I could see him getting to at least round 2 and a max of round 3 I`d imagine. Oh and Roy had a previous Fire Emblem game, I believe it was on the NES...
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"I wonder how many anti-votes he might get for having an association to the X-Box and the DoA series >>"

Less than Master Chief gets for Xbox association. And is there really a DoA anti-vote worth mentioning? Remmeber, the original Ninja Gaiden was bad ass (and was more deserving of a div 8 spot than some I can name) and not everyone will forget that.
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Ryu`s Ninja Gaiden games on the NES owned, I wanted to see one of them in the 8-bit division myself.
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what does anyone think about splitting the characters into divisions by genre?

1. RPGs
2. Action and FPS
3. Adventure and Platform
4. Everything Else ( Puzzle, Arcade, Fighting, Racing, Strategy)

that might work.

I'm not sure if that's actually any different from giving Square its own division and giving Nintendo its own. I also have a hard time thinking about a division where Ryu (SF2) may be the strongest character.
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lol, if anything, DOA would help Ryu. don't forget that a DOA character did actually win a match, lol.

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Capt. Falcon would make an excellent low seed.

The Fire Emblem characters aren't ready yet.

And for the real fooder, let's avoid Nintendo characters this time around just to give fair exposure to some of the other companies like Capcom, Sega, Konami and, yes, SNK.
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I also have a hard time thinking about a division where Ryu (SF2) may be the strongest character.

Heh, in that division my Morrigan would have a chance at success, YAY! :)

And now doubly so I am doubtful of the genre divisions....
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I think its hard to avoid having two stacked divisions and two weak ones.
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Seijun:
I wonder how many anti-votes he might get for having an association to the X-Box and the DoA series

DoA? What is Ryu's association with that?

TRE:
How well do you think Captain Falcon, Marth, Roy, Mr. Game&Watch, Master Hand and Sandbag would do?

Lower tier but maybe higher, possibly middle tier, possibly middle tier, jobber, who knows, total jobber.

Mr. Game & Watch would get a lot of board support though, and Sandbag would be awesome :) Brilliant choice for a 16 seed if you're not going by nominations.

I would think Marth and Roy would be low-to-middle tier, but if Felix can get 40% against Master Chief, Marth and Roy might be able to beat him.

cyko:
oh and Ryu Hyabusa (sp?) has a good shot at making it. he could win a match, possibly two with very lucky seeding, but there's no way he'd make the Elite Eight.

Ditto. I was gonna say the same thing. He could make the Sweet Sixteen if he faced below average competition, but the Elite Eight is out.

Chichiri:
No. I can still see Alucard beatign Hayabusa.

That would be tough to call, until we actually see something from Hayabusa. I would give the edge to Ryu, myself, but I might be overrating him.

I'm not sure if that's actually any different from giving Square its own division and giving Nintendo its own.

Very true, I wouldn't have thought of that.

I also have a hard time thinking about a division where Ryu (SF2) may be the strongest character.

LOL, yeah :) That would be very weird.

But, most of these "alternative" divisional set-ups result in similar stuff. That's why I'm not a fan of them.
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And Ninja Gaiden definitely should have made the 8-bit division. One of the biggest snubs IMO. Even though I could never beat those games...

Actually, I think one of them might've made it if it weren't for vote-splitting between the sequels.
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The most fair way is simply by first name
#-D
E-L
M-R
S-Z
Problems:
Cloud v. Chrono is in Elite 8
Mario v. Megaman is in Elite 8
Sonic v. Sephiroth is in Elite 8
You could claim Link has a free ride to final 4.
The first 3 aren't major, Link should have some competition. (Only threat is Luigi)
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lol, well either with a Square or an RPG Division, i wanna see Magus vs. Shadow or Magus vs. Sephiroth; and Cloud vs. Crono.

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"I think its hard to avoid having two stacked divisions and two weak ones."

Unless we make it like 2k3 with additional knowledge to refine the process. As long as Ceej doesn't make it quirky we can avoid stacked divisions.
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(Only threat is Luigi)

To put it mildly, that's stretching it ;)
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DoA? What is Ryu's association with that?

Well, he is one of the fighters there >>

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You know you have it easy when your biggest threat is Luigi. =P
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"You could claim Link has a free ride to final 4."

And that'd be no better than 2k2. We don't want to do THAT again, do we?

BTW... We'd see Sonic, Samus, and Sephiroth all in the same division once again... not cool. Just swapping out Mega Man for Solid Snake...
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I`m definitely in favor of making the bracket like 2003 with some differences here and there.
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"Sonic v. Sephiroth "

I had to bring this back up, once I looked that post over again. WTF? Sonic over Samus? No. Freaking. Way.
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Kefka, Kirby, KOS-MOS, Knuckles; they would all beat Luigi in that division, lol.

oh, and Ganondorf vs. Link would be the final match in that division.

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