This should read "popular and hated console (X-Box)".
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SAVE THE SUMMER CONTEST!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=14242163

Yeah, so get off MY ass for mistakes, eh.

:)
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

Me. I'm not a moron (ignore the fact that I'm last in the Guru standings, I'm still above the average GameFAQs bracket), and I literally have Starcraft beating WW in my bracket. Why?

Sorry if I made that “anyone who’s not a moron” thing sound offensive. I meant it as a compliment to the users who grace this topic with their presence, not a slam. I’m just getting annoyed with all the stupidity going on throughout any other topic on this board on the Starcraft issue. Some people honestly think Starcraft has an instant and obvious win and it makes my brain cry.

Now, I can say that I still think Starcraft can win because Wind Waker is not a strong game. I have no respect for Metroid Prime as a contender, and SoA didn't get a great reception outside the Dreamcast. Starcraft is a game that is still played today, a game that would get massive hype if a sequel was ever announced, a game that has a spinoff that's expected to do very well on XBox, a game that (as Ulti said) SAVED A BLOODY COUNTRY. And you only sail in it 50% of the time, which is 30% less than WW.

The problem is that the country it saved contributes little to the traffic of this site. GameFAQs is a site whose traffic is primarily from console gamers. The fact that Starcraft got this far is wonderful, but just because it beat Square’s bastard child doesn’t mean it’ll be able to beat Nintendo’s, especially since Nintendo’s bastard has the advantage of being in one of its main series.

Wow, bastard isn't a banned word? News to me.

Is seeding really that important? Sephiroth is already one of the strongest contenders. I just don't see how Sephy being a 2,3, 4, or even 5 seed as a big deal unless Cjay made Cloud or Link a 12-16th seed.

It’s just annoying, really. And, much as I dislike Crono, he got robbed last year with his seeding.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 63/68, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda

A format change that ludicrous would decrease popularity of the contest. Not saying we`re in for the apocalypse or anything, but gamefaqs peaks in the summer for obvious reasons. A ****ty contest negates most of the increase.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

So there. Seeding IS important. Hah!
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

So wait; when this crappy, crappy set-up goes through, and we have the Square division, the Nintendo division, the "Other big guys" division, and the "everyone else" division, and the "everyone else" division has Tommy Vercetti as the 1-seed, Master Chief as the 2, and CATS as the 3... are we suppose to go on strike? Or will the board just automatically shut itself down for us?

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Contest: 63/68; I miss being in tied for 17th place... =(

Not like our fearless leader would care, as all the advertising dollars are belong to him.
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Contest: 63/68; I miss being in tied for 17th place... =(

Not like our fearless leader would care, as all the advertising dollars are belong to him.

What you say !!

All your advertising dollars are belong to CNET.

GameFAQs has no chance to survive make its time.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 63/68, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda

Oops... well, in any case I highly doubt our fearless leader is lining up for food stamps...
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Contest: 63/68; I miss being in tied for 17th place... =(

MC Would probably get the #1...
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

^^^that is absolutely asanine.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Oh, but we have the potential of seeing two 16 seeds take down the head of the Xbox world in one friggin year! That's almost the ONLY upside to this inhumane proposition.
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

Master Chief as a 1 seed is the perfect example of how stupid this idea is.
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

No, no, if any obscure character with no chance to survive is going to be a 1-seed, it should be Kerrigan. Her game beat MC's game, damn it! It is her time.

All your votes are belong to Kerrigan.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 63/68, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda

Replace MC with Halo and get me a time machine, boy! I think we should nip this all in the bud...we must go back... to winter 2k3!
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

I still think that in a non-big name division, the #1 seed is Tommy V's to lose.
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If you've paid any attention to gamefaqs this last yaer you know that MC will take that spot over Tommy.
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

I just read over the petition, and I think I`ve officially outdone myself this time around. I can`t believe I actually wrote all that stuff.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

I never got to read that petition, anyone have a link to that? =)
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

Here is what I am thinking... if Fearless Leader is going to subject us to this travesty, we should run with it. Everyone nominating ridiculous "characters" like Left Paddle (Pong), L-Block (Tetris), and Near Racket (Tennis). Seriously, nothing screams "stop paying to advertise on my site" like an invisible racket garnering a 5-seed...
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Contest: 63/68; I miss being in tied for 17th place... =(

heroic mario - its in site suggestions, in dethaddr's petition.

If you've paid any attention to gamefaqs this last yaer you know that MC will take that spot over Tommy.

But since when have the rankings made sense? "Y hallo thar, Aeris", anyone?
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Thanks.
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

I'm not talking rankings, I'm talking Halo's undeserved 1 seed and MC's previous (and likewise undeserved) 3 seed.
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

But Tommy also got an undeserved 3 seed.

We don't know who would get more noms for the next Summer Contest. Either could end up being the 1 seed.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

If this nonsense actually happens, here are my nominations:

Gordon Freeman
CATS
Left Pong Paddle
Right Pong Paddle
Pong Ball
L-Shaped Tetris Block
Tetris Line Block
T-Shaped Block
Square Tetris Block
Staircase Tetris Block
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Come on Ulti... no love for Near Racket!?!
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Contest: 63/68; I miss being in tied for 17th place... =(

I`ve never heard of it.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

I hope solar is around, we're going to need a new topic within the next hour or two.

Perhaps some people could put a link to the petition in their sigs when they post in other topics? "Sign this petition against Company-based divisions for the Summer Contest: ..."? I already have my sig taken up ;), but while the petition is going pretty good--over 70 signatures in half a day, that's very strong for a petition--we'd get a lot more people to sign if they were aware of it.

And Ulti, I think you were too antagonistic. All your points were of course valid and accurate, but on the off chance that CJayC does happen to read that thread and give a **** about it, talking to him like that can't help, I'm thinking.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

After all this time, Ulti, you still won't nominate Frog :(

My heart bleeds...
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

Well, just imagine if ceej ruins it by forcing the nominations to be based within the bounds of companies! You think the Sp bracket got ****ed up just imagine the Summer bracket like that.... *shudders*
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

I gotta applaud you on that Ulti, that was amazing. Excellent job.
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

Well, just imagine if ceej ruins it by forcing the nominations to be based within the bounds of companies!

One would assume that's exactly what he's going to do.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

Where in the world does the cons end?

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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

does = do.
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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke - Old Man; The Legend of Zelda

*ONE* nomination PER COMPANY? Holy crap. That's so unfair! I *can't* just nominate one Bioware character! Those bastards!
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 63/68, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda

The post was a joke. Though I`m not exactly happy with the whole theory about the recursive rankings making perfect sense and how it`s natural for people to argue against them. That whole series of posts really made you come off as 'the rankings are perfect, whoever doesn`t agree with them is an idiot'. Though I`m probably taking things too personally, as always.

And I`m sorry if I`m willing to tell Jeff what I truly think. I`m willing to bet others feel the same way, but don`t have the guts to actually say anything to him. I hope he does read that thread, to be honest. The idea is stupid, plain and simple, and him going through with it would be further proof that he simply does not care about the people who make his site what it is.

And am I the only one that was just a little upset by the fact that all of the beta testing was originally meant to be a secret? If you`re planning on chaning the entire site`s layout, at least give us an advance warning. Like I said, we may have never learned of the events had it not been for LUE. We could have woken up one day to a layout change.

God bless LUE.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

I gotta applaud you on that Ulti, that was amazing. Excellent job.

Why thank you =)
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

"God bless LUE."

Does not compute...

Anyway, cn, I hadn't thought of the 1 nom per company factor until just now. I merely assumed it would be a normal nomination because, you know, that's a sensable thing to do. But then when I thought about it I realized we'd be in deep **** if there is one nom per company. Yes, it increases the chance of seeing an SNK character or two, but it's not a good thing overall... And I'd be willing to bet it would even further solidify MC's place as a 1 seed because I can at least think of some other characters (okay, one other character) from Rockstar.
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

If Ceej makes one of the divisions out of all Bioware/Black Isle characters then I will cry for joy and curse all who oppose him.

However, since that isn't going to be happening, I will go sign the petition now.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 63/68, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda

Well, I cannot imagine he would limit to division-specific nominations. There are many reasons I feel this way, but most important is the fact that not everyone just knows what characters will fall into which divisions. Everyone knew what system their favorite game is on, but I do not know for the life of me who makes True Crime, but that will not stop me from nominating Nick Kang. Why? Because the Kangmaster always wins! That, and who doesn't love a lead enigma?
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Contest: 63/68; I miss being in tied for 17th place... =(

Ulti:
Though I`m not exactly happy with the whole theory about the recursive rankings making perfect sense and how it`s natural for people to argue against them. That whole series of posts really made you come off as 'the rankings are perfect, whoever doesn`t agree with them is an idiot'. Though I`m probably taking things too personally, as always

I'm not sure whether you're being serious here. If you took it personally I most sincerely apologize.

My only point was that they do make perfect sense, and have a series of known weaknesses, and have certainly shown their utility in the past (the most obvious example being Sephiroth vs. Mario). I cannot understand the reasoning behind belittling them in any way.

Of course, their utility will be majorly hampered by a Company divisional format filled with the things that make the model invalid ;) I suppose the unpredictability of %es, and the difficulty of predicting "Will SFF affect this match, or not, and by how much?" is one of the only benefits of the format.

And am I the only one that was just a little upset by the fact that all of the beta testing was originally meant to be a secret?

That was very messed up. He should've kept the users in the loop. It was very wrong not to.

This site has been going straight down the toilet ever since the layout change.

Chichiri:
Anyway, cn, I hadn't thought of the 1 nom per company factor until just now.

I don't think it will be 1 nomination per company, but rather perhaps a number of slots per company. 1 nomination per division wouldn't make sense. We didn't have 1 nomination per era, but rather 1 per system. So we'd probably have a certain number of noms per company. Which will still lead to quirks.
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smitelf is a far better forecaster of this contest than I could ever hope to be.
I am in awe of her PWNage.

Match #49 Review:

No real surprises here.

Match #51 Preview:

Mario vs. Crono III? This match may very well be. I can't really give a solid advantage to either game, so...go SMW!
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

I`d like to say I`m definitely looking forward to the match tomorrow. I`m hoping SMW can pull through and upset CT.

Yeah, in light of all the bad things that have happened maybe this match will have some positive effect . =)
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I don't think it will be 1 nomination per company, but rather perhaps a number of slots per company. 1 nomination per division wouldn't make sense. We didn't have 1 nomination per era, but rather 1 per system. So we'd probably have a certain number of noms per company. Which will still lead to quirks.

Come to think of it, Ceej would probably *have* to have more than one nomination per company, especially in the case of Nintendo, where all the nominations would go to Mario, Link, and maybe Samus if there was only one nomination allowed. Out of a hundred Nintendo nominations, I'd be surprised if more than one was *not* for one of those three.
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Married to UltimaterializerX on 5/21/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 63/68, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda

I'm not sure whether you're being serious here. If you took it personally I most sincerely apologize.

Okay, sweetness. My only real issue with them is that they aren`t perfect when you start talking about characters who are very close together.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

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One nomination per company would be completely pointless.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf

Not 1 nom per division, 1 per company. The other two divisions have a hell of a lot morethan one company each. Though it simply can't work that way no matter how you look at it. Samus is a Nintendo character, right? But wouldn't it be fair to say you could nominate her for Retro since retro did a Metroid game? DK for Rare? Link for Panasonic, for god's sake!? It's just night right, and he can't allow X noms per division or anything of the sort because, well, it'll make things just plain wrong.
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

I think this topic is done and overwith.
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Married to smitelf on 5/21/04
I would like to take this moment to politely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf