FF7 actually had 80.03 when I posted that... so Xenogears isn't rolling over and dying yet, of course.
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Yeah, I wouldn`t imagine that FFVII would fall below 80%.
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Today: (1)Final Fantasy VII over (9)Xenogears

Looks like FFVII might not reach 80%, its at 79.92% and falling...
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And it's 80/20 again.
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As of this moment, 80.09%.

Xenogears is taking a beating...

And FFVII's percentage continues to rise slowly but surely.
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Today: (1)Final Fantasy VII over (9)Xenogears

Match #40 Review:

Ouch. Disappointing performance by FFVI here. I think we can now confirm that LttP won't have any trouble dispatching it next round.

Match #42 Preview:

Hmm...interesting. Although my bracket says FFT, MGS appears to be the favorite...but I don't think any of us should totally discount the game with "Final" and "Fantasy" in its name.

FFT won't go down without a fight.
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Phediuk the Phanboi, your reviews are biased. :)
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He speaks but the truth. =P
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Truth? While I don't tihnk Pheidiuk is actually a fanboy, I do think he's jumping to conclusions too quickly. We can't estimate how good or bad a game has done until we can compare the strengths of its opponents. For all we know Super Metroid could be weaker than Doom! Hell, Prime hardly beat Half-Life and Prime may be the strongest Metroid in this contest, and I would count Doom above Half Life anyday of the week.
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Funny, I'd assume the reverse without so much as a single thought.

...You're jumping to conclusions too!
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Super Metroid weaker than Doom? That`s beyond crazy. Seriously, if Doom was stronger than Super Metroid I don`t know how I could take that, even from GameFAQs. I do agree with him that LttP should take care of FFVI without much concern, heck I`ve believed that from day one. There`s always a chance of something happening, much like you state often but that chance is not always the highest. From the moment the brackets were released I`ve always thought that it`d be CT and LttP in the division finals and from the looks of it that`s probably how it`ll go, something could happen but I`m personally not seeing anything like it. Especially since I consider Super Metroid to not only be the strongest Metroid - and I don`t see what could point MP being stronger but hey its somehow possible - but to be the third to fifth stronger person in the division. There are some things people should consider like SMRPG for instance that could prove to be stronger than we expected, but Doom beating Super Metroid? I cannot possibly fathom that. You look at Doom and you have a solid 60-40 win over a game like Earthbound, but I cannot see what could possibly in my wildest thoughts point to Doom over Super Metroid, its just really out there.
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There is a difference between being a fanboy and posting a logical prediction. What was he supposed to say? LttP and FF6 is neck and neck at this point? To even think Doom is stronger than Super Metroid is ubsurd. It sounds more like you are refusing to admit the likely scenario. LttP has always been the favorite against FF6 and results show nothing that indicates otherwise. There is no need to even debate about this. Now Chrono Trigger is a different story since we haven't a clue how strong SMRPG really was. I will say this however, if Chrono Trigger barely survives against SMW, LttP has an uncontested path to the finals, where it'll probably lose to FF7 or OoT.
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Forget Doom vs Super Metroid. He accusing others of assuming, while he makes an even bigger assumption that Doom is stronger than Half-Life.
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At this point, I don't think it's even guaranteed that LttP will face Chrono Trigger...after all, CT might lose to Super Mario World. ^_^
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LttP has had the advantage in performance thus far, but there's just the unpredictability about Square Vs. Nintendo that still makes the match result ambiguous.
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Just because it's Square vs. Nintendo doesn't mean it's automatically going to be a good one. Kirby/Ramza was a gigantic anticlimax.
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Chichiri is using that assumption to mock the people who jump to conclusions too soon. And furthermore, reversing the logic that everyone uses to say that FF6 is doomed would imply that Doom is stronger than Super Metroid. I don`t agree with this of course, but he makes a good point by saying not to jump to conclusions.

For example, looking at Cloud vs Mario match by match in 2002 would make people logically think that Cloud would have won. But he lost. Yes, PGCN stepped in, but Cloud still lost. You have to wait until the matches themselves before assuming who will win.
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First, it's far too obvious that the Metroid games aren't as strong as Samus. Can anyone explain that? You all seem to think that Zelda's popularity has has some huge push lately or something. I don't think LttP beat the hell out of Super Metroid simply because LttP is strong than Link. How is that possible? I can't come up with any logical reason to say LttP is stronger than Link outside of "celda r teh suc.k". At least there is a reason why SM wouldn't be as strong as Samus. Obviously SM isn't a bad game, so the real logical conclusion is this: Metroid Prime provides much more support to Samus than the other games in the series. Can you even begin to come up with any other logical explanation? Look at how badly Metroid did against Mario 3. Samus and Mario is supposed to be a toss-up, but look at that. Mario 3 did the Mario all over Metroid. Metroid is absurdly weak in the spring contest so far. If Prime can't do anything good then what can we say... Super Smash Brothers accounts for 30% of Samus' strength? I dunno what it is, but LttP's win over SM isn't impressive, not with what has happened so far.

Everyone's expectations are way out of whack, no doubt about it. Metroid got the score it deserved, and I never would have thought that it'd do better than it has so far in any of its incarnations. You all have false hopes about its strength just because Samus does fairly well. The fact is, she's not pulling from one solidified group, and a lot of her votes are lost from that.

Furthermore, how do you know how strong Doom even is? Fly has never been in the character contest, and even if he was no one would know who he is. But everyone knows Doom. How can you not, unless you're only about 13 years old? As a game it has a lot going for it, and while it's bound for the low-mid tier in all likelihood, it could still put up a reasonable fight against Super Metroid. Either way you look at it, LttP vs. FF6 isn't over yet, it hasn't even begun, so there is no real data with which you can find a clear winner. Wait and see what happens, it may become very, very interesting.
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"and I would count Doom above Half Life anyday of the week."

That's not me assuming either game's strength, that's a personal opinion. Are you an underaged user, 'cause I would think by the time you hit your teens you can tell the difference between a statement of fact "Doom is better than half-life any day of the week" and a statement of opinion "I would count Doom above Half-Life anyday of the week".
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One thing you guys haven't considered is the fact that its a nintendo vs. nintendo vote.. just like link vs mario people go with their nintendo favorite.. and that is quite obviously link.. and why i also see LoZ defeating smb3.. super metroid is undoubtedly stronger than doom in my oppinion.. because doom is not a mario or link game.. however against another nintendo game its performance is almost invalid.. the only valid performance thus far was the mp vs. half-life match which.. either shows how strong half-life is.. or how weak mp is.. either case in nintendo matches link has not lost yet..
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Whoa there, we thought you were saying Doom would beat HL in a match.

Problem is, as I exposed, Samus did pretty damn decent in SC2K2 before Prime came out, and SSBM has shown time and time again to be a non-factor. So her popularity mainly stemmed from SM... what happened then?
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Of course there's no reason to believe Zelda would have lost up to this point. Anyone who picked somethign other than Zelda for these last matches was either a fool or they were hoping for the off chance that something would happen to make it not so to "beat the odds" by using game theory.
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First, it's far too obvious that the Metroid games aren't as strong as Samus.

Very true.

Can anyone explain that? You all seem to think that Zelda's popularity has has some huge push lately or something. I don't think LttP beat the hell out of Super Metroid simply because LttP is strong than Link. How is that possible? I can't come up with any logical reason to say LttP is stronger than Link outside of "celda r teh suc.k".

He may be stronger than LttP, but even if he is there is no doubt that he isn`t that much stronger. LttP, regardless of SFF, did not do terrible at all. With Samus being stronger than her games and Link up in the air, LttP still did 13% better than Link did against Samus, thats quite a bit. Almost enough to gather the idea that Link and LttP are more equal than one being clearly stronger than the other. And being anyone near Link is insane in strength considering how he ranked at number two last year for overall strength.

At least there is a reason why SM wouldn't be as strong as Samus. Obviously SM isn't a bad game, so the real logical conclusion is this: Metroid Prime provides much more support to Samus than the other games in the series.

Where do you get this? I`ve heard you talking about earlier in this topic and I did not understand how you could think MP is stronger than SM. A poll that was taken in February pointed to Super Metroid being the most favored among people here, though it wasn`t by a lot.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1528

Super Metroid got 3,000 more votes and had a 5% difference between the two out of 51,000 votes. The only way I could think of Metroid Prime bringing in more support is through it being more recent and having a sequel thats due out in November otherwise I do believe Super Metroid is Samus` most favored game here. And as you can see from last year, Metroid Prime did not give Samus a boost to talk about in popularity. That was her first new game since Super Metroid back in 1994, though she appeared in SSB and SSBM, which could possibly be a big source.

Can you even begin to come up with any other logical explanation? Look at how badly Metroid did against Mario 3. Samus and Mario is supposed to be a toss-up, but look at that. Mario 3 did the Mario all over Metroid. Metroid is absurdly weak in the spring contest so far. If Prime can't do anything good then what can we say... Super Smash Brothers accounts for 30% of Samus' strength? I dunno what it is, but LttP's win over SM isn't impressive, not with what has happened so far.

Everyone's expectations are way out of whack, no doubt about it. Metroid got the score it deserved, and I never would have thought that it'd do better than it has so far in any of its incarnations.

I love LttP to death, but less than 30%? For how good that game was it deserved far more than just 25% of the vote. I have to disagree with you completely when it comes to talking about the scores each deserved, I believed LttP was definitely the better of the two but with the quality that Super Metroid had there`s no doubt it deserved a better score but it didn`t get it so...
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Furthermore, how do you know how strong Doom even is? Fly has never been in the character contest, and even if he was no one would know who he is. But everyone knows Doom. How can you not, unless you're only about
13 years old?

It being known and liked are two different things, as I`m sure your aware. Mario, for example, is as known as you can get but that doesn`t everyone who knows him likes him. The same can be said for Doom, sure people know the game and if they don`t they should be smacked but despite that, they don`t have to like and or vote for it at all. To say Doom is more popular than Super Metroid is an extreme assumption, moreso than anything I`ve thrown out there. Its within reason that Super Metroid should take care of Doom without a whole lot of trouble.

As a game it has a lot going for it, and while it's bound
for the low-mid tier in all likelihood,

Probably so.

it could still put up a reasonable fight against Super Metroid. Either way you look at it, LttP vs. FF6 isn't over yet, it hasn't even begun, so there is no real data with which you can find a clear winner. Wait and see what happens, it may become very, very interesting.

As I`ve said time and time again, from me I`m not basing it off of numbers. I`m going with who I figure to win this match and the person I figure isn`t going to have trouble doing so. That`s my prediction, it could very well be proven wrong but I hate to just sit here and not throw something out there for people to see and or discuss. I`ve also said I believe LttP is a direct equal to OoT so by that I should have no worries that LttP will dispatch FFVI without worry however if FFVI proves me wrong well I just have one more reason to look at what it did. I`ll agree that peoples assumptions off of the matches thus far is completely out there because nobody has had an opponent to talk about yet. SMB3, LoZ, CT, LttP, FFVII, OoT, WW, FFX all get opponents next round that we`ll be able to base more off of numbers but like you say until then its not something you can look back on and say, well from a statistic standpoint such and such should beat this. Looking at it from who you want and personal opinion can be different though.
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just like link vs mario people go with their nintendo favorite.. and that is quite obviously link..

Except Link didn't steal votes from Mario or Samus because he was the Nintendo favorite. Yet LttP did from Super Metroid... and if you're going to assume that the results from that match are the real deal, do you really think Gunstar Heroes vs. PS4 would be a 50-50 match?
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Obviously, slowflake, if 2002 Samus was "pure SM" which I whole-heartedly doubt, then it shows that Samus is stronger with Metroid Prime. There is no explainable reason as to why Sonic would drop, though I love poking fun at the 3d Sonic games and saying that they are slowly killing him in the summer, but Samus proved to be significantly stronger than Sonic the second time around using the extrapolated standings, or recursive, or whatever. And imagine, if you will, that Link got a boost from WW. If that is the case (and it doesn't sound unreasonable to me) then Samus got an even bigger boost then we thought. Sure, it's not even comparable to the leap Cloud took, but it's enough to say that Samus isn't 100% on GameFAQs without Prime.
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My idea on that is that Sephiroth's numbers against Link were inflated beyond the usual margin of error.

I never said Samus was weaker than any of her games - as a matter of fact, I thought she was stronger from the get-go. But not to the extent where it loses a third of the votes Samus got lat year!
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Here's a question: Who would win in a match according to the stats? Gunstar Heroes or Phantasy Star IV? Pac-Man or Metal Gear? Phantasy Star or Pitfall? Shining Force or The Simpsons?
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Lemme check my file... I'll give you the winners, complete with percentages.
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"That's not me assuming either game's strength, that's a personal opinion. Are you an underaged user, 'cause I would think by the time you hit your teens you can tell the difference between a statement of fact "Doom is better than half-life any day of the week" and a statement of opinion "I would count Doom above Half-Life anyday of the week".

Hello, you need to assume SOMETHING that hasn't been proven to "count" on it. Do you not live in an English speaking territory? No need to get personal now. I'd hate to ruin the only thread I enjoy reading. Let us wait until the 3rd round when everything will be clear.

*Goes back to Lurker mode*

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And imagine, if you will, that Link got a boost from WW.

Eh, I`d be skeptical on that. For Link to get a boost it wouldn`t be a matter of new people being introduced to him because he`s been around since the 80`s and has a insanely popular series backing him, so for WW to give him a boost, people would have to had liked him more in WW than a previous Zelda to send a boost to him. That I can`t see happening. If anything at all WW should be a nuetral factor in the leveling out of the anti-votes he might receive from it and the people that liked the game. There were many who disliked, and even still do, the cel-shading. So, I`d really doubt WW did anything to Link. Metroid Prime is more likely to have given Samus some sort of nudge than WW to give Link one.
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Hey, I did all the first round losers for the first two divisions. Enjoy!

Metal Gear - 60.93%
Phantasy Star - 73.53%
Duck Hunt - 82.45%
Galaga - 60.99%
Street Fighter 2 - 64.26%
The Simpsons - 69.37%
Gunstar Heroes - 50.90%
Mortal Kombat - 56.46%
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Why the hell do you people keep bringing up that meaningless potd? You wanna see how much a PotD means?

Bowser 12.08% 2199
Luigi 17.26% 3143
Mario 15.77% 2872
Princess 4.78% 870
Toad 10.88% 1981
Waluigi 3.54% 645
Wario 9.17% 1669
Yoshi 26.52% 4828
TOTAL VOTES 18207

That's a ****ing PotD, and if we wen't by that Yoshi should have been a ****ing 1 seed. PotD is worthless, why do you think Shake went to troll their board? A PotD means nothing to a contest poll, and if it did, then Yoshi would have been rigth up there with Link, Cloud, and Seph for 2k3's top contenders. Is this the source you want to base your arguments on? I tell you what, Bush's Iraqi "intelligence" advisers could have at least been sorta rigth that Iraq may have sorta tried to sorta make a WMD, but Yoshi wiht his 26.52% can't even beat lowly old Bowser at 12.08% let alone touch the mighty Mario who only got 15.77%.
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Obviously, slowflake, if 2002 Samus was "pure SM" which I whole-heartedly doubt,

I agree, I definitely doubt that 2002 Samus was nothing but pure Super Metroid popularity. SSB no doubt had an affect on her popularity from the N64, I am almost certain it had helped her along with her series as a whole.
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Phantasy Star IV and Earthbound lost?
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yes garsha they did - and me with them. thanx for the reminder...^_^;

No, what I mean is that I'm suprised that Phantasy Star IV would lose to Gunstar Heroes and that Earthbound would lose to Mortal Kombat.
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Why the hell do you people keep bringing up that meaningless potd? You wanna see how much a PotD means?

Its not the sole factor, and people who do use as such really don`t have much ground for it but I had other reasoning behind it. And this poll your about to show me is extremely old, and I do man old the poll I showed you was taken during the month of nominations and was this year ,not even 2 months ago. It holds more ground than this poll, but polls shouldn`t be looked at as a sole factor. And yeah, this poll was sucky I still can`t believe people used it. =\

That's a ****ing PotD, and if we wen't by that Yoshi should have been a ****ing 1 seed.

Haha, very true.

PotD is worthless, why do you think Shake went to troll their board? A PotD means nothing to a contest poll, and if it did, then Yoshi would have been rigth up there with Link, Cloud, and Seph for 2k3's top contenders.

They aren`t completely worthless, again the poll I gave you was not 2 months ago while this poll was taken years before 2003. The difference is in how recent the poll is. And yeah, the people who went by that poll, well... were sorely disappointed, heh.

Is this the source you want to base your arguments on?

I`m not basing it completely around that, as you I gave you a couple more reasons other than the PotD.
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Oh, I'm sorry, when you were reading that it was impossible to tell that "I would count..." means that I would consider it as such? I know it's a tough one to grasp, as everyone else who disagrees with me is still being aggressive towards me and acts as if they still can't understand what I wrote. I mean, hell, they attacked me over something they didn't even read correctly... it's a good thing I'm a well mannered person who wouldn't snap back at them. If you want to comment on what I say take a moment to think about what I've said. Does it sound rediculous? If it does, maybe you are not getting what I meant. Instead of assuming I'm trying to hold up a rediculous point of view why not, oh, I dunno, try to ask me to explain what I meant? I know, it was easier to say "He accusing others of assuming, while he makes an even bigger assumption that Doom is stronger than Half-Life."... but couldn't you have said "What? Are you trying to say Doom is stronger than HL? That would be rediculous!". And, should you happen to try something more civil like that as opposed to attacking you I could just say "No, I was saying I think Doom is the better game" and we could all be nice and friendly and you wouldn't have to worry about unpleasantness in your favorite topic.

That's right everybody, I'm jumping on yet another person's ass. It may not be necessary, but I'll be damned if someone can get away with attacking me over something they didn't even read correctly and NEVER made an attempt to gain confirmation of. Who wants to jump to conclusions about my statements next? I guess time will tell.
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"it wouldn`t be a matter of new people being introduced to him because he`s been around since the 80`s"

HM, not everyone that played WW was around in the 80's. I'd be willing to bet some of the people that played WW might not have even owned an N64, let alone a Super or an NES. And even if they did own those great systems, not all of them owned Zelda. Not everyone thinks 3/4 overhead is "teh all awesome" (but I'd disagree till I was blue in the face), and some people might not have even found OoT and MM as appealing as WW. Don't ask me why, but people have varying enough tastes that I could see a .5% boost for WW from people who wouldn't have played a Zelda normally but though cel-shading was "nifty" enough to try this new Zelda out. Okay, it's a rediculous thought, but it's certainly not impossible. Whatever you do think, though, WW was much more beloved than anyone could have expected (GF GotY, anyone?) and that is reason ennough to believe a bit of a boost is possible.
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HM, not everyone that played WW was around in the 80's.

That`s very true, extremely true in fact. But how many people don`t know who Link is? I dunno, thats where I see it being on the iffy side.

see a .5% boost for WW from people who wouldn't have played a Zelda normally but though cel-shading was "nifty" enough to try this new Zelda out. Okay, it's a rediculous thought, but it's certainly not impossible.

Hmm, definitely a possibility and the .5% doesn`t seem to far out there. Definitely possible.

Whatever you do think, though, WW was much more beloved than anyone could have expected (GF GotY, anyone?) and that is reason ennough to believe a bit of a boost is possible

That`s true, I certainly wouldn`t have expected GF GotY with some of the responses I had heard from various boards but hey they seem to eat it up. Thinking about it a slight boost is definitely possible, I`d like to see if it really did myself...
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Yeah, yeah, other reasons. Sure HM. I gotcha. Still, I can't undestand why reasonable thinking people would be surprised about the LttP vs. SM results. They are putting too much stock into SC results, which of course mean as much to SpC as any given PotD does, apparently. They are also forgetting that Samus was one of the more popular SSB characters, and since she hadn't had a game in years it was a serious "morale boost". Slowflake, you wanna disagree with me on SSB? Then tell me why KH means anything? Go on, do it. I'll wait for that one 'til hell freezes over if I have to. But I'm telling you now, if you can't imagine SSB being increadibly important to Samus, I don't know how you can believe in the KHF.
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Sorry 'bout the poor transition in that last post... HM, I wasn't calling you slowflake :)
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Gunstar Heroes - 50.90%
Mortal Kombat - 56.46%

See now, that seems weird. That's saying that if the two face, and Lttp and FF6 were dead even then MK would only have a small advantage over Gunstar Heroes? Am I reading that wrong? Wouldn't that mean that IF LttP is stronger than FF6 then Gunstar Heroes may be stronger than MK?!?! Please, tell me I'm reading that wrong, and for the love of god tell me how I am supposed to be reading it.
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That would be sort of obvious.

It's been pretty much accepted that a character would improve if a character got a new game between contests, AND had very few games before. Now, it doesn't apply to most of Nintendo's big hitters, like Link, Mario, Ganondorf and Bowser. However, Samus seems to have gotten a small boost from Prime, so since the SSBs came before, they could've helped as well... wait, that's kinda the opposite of what I was trying to prove, so I'll take it for what it's worth. Anyway, Samus seems to be a special case within Nintendo, due to her small amount of games compared to the other four.
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It just means GH would get 50.90% on PS4, and MK would get 56.46% on Earthbound.

If LttP and FF6 were dead even, we'd have to consider GH's and MK's scores compared to these two: so if the two were dead even, MK would beat Gunstar Heroes with 83.56% - and SM with 51.71%.
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Yeah, the idea does contradict what you were trying to say. But see, if she wasn't in SSB and we were going only by SM and earlier, we probably now know how well she would have done. Just because it wasn't inbetween contests doesn't mean it didn't boost her popularity between games... it just means we didn't have any contests to judge it by. Like I said, it was a morale boost, and it held up Samus' popularity between major releases. It's not like characters had no gageable popularity before the SC :)
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Okay, makes sense that way.

"MK would beat <blahblablah>Gunstar Heroes with 83.56% - and</blahblahblah> SM with 51.71%.

Say what? MK beating SM? There is no god, right? Because essentially that's what you just told me... that there is no god. In any mathematics where a MK game beats a Metroid game, I'm willing to say that we should just leave the big fancy numbers out of it until we actually see things play out. Wait a minute, I've been saying that for a while now, haven't I? Well then, if FF6 is going to lose here's to SM not being lower than MK! And should FF6 win here's to SSB for reviving a nearly dead character in Samus!

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