Top 10 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)

1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda over Adventure
2) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda: LTTP over Gunstar Heroes
3) 75.28% - Final Fantasy over Pitfall
4) 74.08% - (ii) Legend of Zelda over Donkey Kong #
5) 72.62% - Legend of Zelda: OOT over Fallout 2
6) 71.26% - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2
7) 69.66% - Super Mario 64 over Nights *
8) 66.58% - Super Metroid over Phantasy Star 4
9) 64.60% - Super Mario Bros. 3 over Metal Gear *
10) 62.94% - Super Mario World over The Simpsons

Top 10 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda over Adventure
2) 78272 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP over Gunstar Heroes
3) 76348 - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2
4) 74682 - Final Fantasy over Pitfall
5) 69753 - Legend of Zelda: OOT over Fallout 2
6) 61229 - Super Mario World over The Simpsons
7) 59648 - Sonic 2 over Shining Force
8) 56834 - Super Mario 64 over Nights *
9) 56376 - Super Metroid over Phantasy Star 4
10) 54634 - (ii) Legend of Zelda over Donkey Kong #

Top 10 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)

1) 0.14% - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt
2) 0.34% - Starcraft over Halo
3) 1.20% - Kingdom Hearts over Soul Calibur #
4) 6.36% - Castlvania: SotN over Perfect Dark *
5) 12.32% - Metroid Prime over Half-Life #
6) 12.48% - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2
7) 13.44% - Super Smash Bros. Melee over Metal Gear Solid 2 #
8) 14.08% - Doom over Earthbound
9) 15.90% - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C *
10) 20.64% - Grand Theft Auto: Vice City over Star Wars: KOTOR @

Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 143 - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt
2) 373 - Starcraft over Halo
3) 1088 - Kingdom Hearts over Soul Calibur #
4) 4883 - Castlvania: SotN over Perfect Dark *
5) 9066 - Metroid Prime over Half-Life #
6) 10065 - Super Smash Bros. Melee over Metal Gear Solid 2 #
7) 11114 - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C *
8) 12076 - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2
9) 12164 - Doom over Earthbound
10) 18491 - Grand Theft Auto: Vice City over Star Wars: KOTOR @

Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 112889 - Halo vs. Starcraft
2) 107150 - Final Fantasy 7 vs. Suikoden 2
3) 99194 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall
4) 97580 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure
5) 97285 - Super Mario World vs. The Simpsons
6) 97126 - Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force
7) 97031 - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt
8) 96704 - Super Mario RPG vs. Steet Fighter 2
9) 96186 - Final Fantasy 3/6 vs. Mortal Kombat
10) 96053 - Legend of Zelda: OOT vs. Fallout 2

Top 10 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 65875 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance vs. Fire Emblem #
2) 67679 - (ii) Tetris vs. Pong #
3) 69876 - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C *
4) 72743 - Metroid vs. Pac-Man *
5) 73558 - (ii) Super Mario World vs. Sonic 2 #
6) 73642 - Metroid Prime vs. Half-Life #
7) 73752 - (ii) Legend of Zelda vs. Donkey Kong #
8) 74556 - Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metal Gear *
9) 74688 - Metal Gear Solid vs. Resident Evil *
10) 74923 - Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. Metal Gear Solid 2 #

Top 10 Least Popular Polls without an Extra PotD (by vote totals)

1) 65875 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance vs. Fire Emblem #
2) 67679 - (ii) Tetris vs. Pong #
3) 73558 - (ii) Super Mario World vs. Sonic 2 #
4) 73642 - Metroid Prime vs. Half-Life #
5) 73752 - (ii) Legend of Zelda vs. Donkey Kong #
6) 74923 - Super Smash Bros. Melee over Metal Gear Solid 2 #
7) 75687 - Legend of Zelda: WW vs. Skies of Arcadia #
8) 77424 - Final Fantasy X xs. Shenmue #
9) 79796 - (ii) Final Fantasy vs. Contra #
10) 79804 - (ii) Chrono Trigger vs. Super Mario RPG #

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Current Score: 41/44 (through SMW vs. Sonic 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12

So, what do people see the elite 8 looking like now? My take:

Mario 3 vs. Legend of Zelda
Chrono Trigger vs. Zelda: LttP
FF7 vs. Ocarina of Time
Wind Waker vs. FFX

Although I wouldn't put a cent on it, and all those matches are really coin flips. I didn't think myself saying that Chrono Trigger looks like being the weakest elite 8 participant, and this is the first time I'm doubting Mario 3's chances of making the final.

I really don't know what to think any more. Just too many variables. Although I do think that Link to the Past can now be described as a serious title contender, if not the favourite. I do know that come next week, I'll probably change my mind again :-)
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Jon Thomson - 32/38, 38/44 - today: Super Metroid, tomorrow: Doom

Top 10 Highest Individual Votes

1) 92894 - Legend of Zelda
2) 91749 - Final Fantasy 7
3) 86938 - Final Fantasy
4) 86690 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP
5) 82903 - Legend of Zelda: OOT
6) 79257 - Super Mario World
7) 78387 - Sonic 2
8) 71697 - Chrono Trigger
9) 70520 - Super Metroid
10) 70294 - Final Fantasy 3/6

Top 10 Lowest Individual Votes

1) 4686 - Adventure
2) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes
3) 9559 - (ii) Donkey Kong #
4) 12256 - Pitfall
5) 12375 - Nights *
6) 13150 - Fallout 2
7) 13197 - Metal Gear *
8) 14144 - Phantasy Star 4
9) 14504 - Panzer Dragoon Saga *
10) 15401 - Suikoden 2

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)

1) 56258 - Halo
2) 48444 - Duck Hunt
3) 44532 - Soul Calibur #
4) 42314 - Street Fighter 2
5) 37127 - Earthbound
6) 35930 - Perfect Dark
7) 35564 - Star Wars: KOTOR @
8) 35513 - Phantasy Star
9) 32429 - Metal Gear Solid 2 #
10) 32288 - Half-Life #

Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)

1) 40495 - Xenogears *
2) 40813 - Castlevania: SotN *
3) 41354 - Metroid Prime #
4) 42494 - Super Smash Bros. Melee #
5) 43716 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance #
6) 45620 - Kingdom Hearts #
7) 48587 - Donkey Kong
8) 49291 - Doom
9) 49723 - (ii) Tetris #
10) 49837 - Metroid *

Top 10 Least Impressive Winners without an Extra PotD (by votes)

1) 41354 - Metroid Prime #
2) 42494 - Super Smash Bros. Melee #
3) 43716 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance #
4) 45620 - Kingdom Hearts #
5) 48587 - Donkey Kong
6) 49291 - Doom
7) 49723 - (ii) Tetris #
8) 51911 - (ii) Super Mario World #
9) 53516 - (ii) Chrono Trigger #
10) 54055 - Grand Theft Auto: Vice City @

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)

1) still, no data yet..... bah........... maybe not.......... =(
2)
3)
4)
5)

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)

1) no data yet...... come on, pleeeaseee..........
2)
3)
4)
5)

* = shared PotD with GameRiot or ESPN or FFXI poll

# = matches after the home-page layout change

@ = messed up two day match after the layout change


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Current Score: 41/44 (through SMW vs. Sonic 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12

and is anyone else starting to get the feeling that we're not getting prediction stats and standings until the contest is over? =(

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Current Score: 41/44 (through SMW vs. Sonic 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12

LttP is doing well...I once again say it is SFF and that it means nothing but I'm sure people will start calling it the new favorite of the division. Oh, well. CT will prove you wrong, infidels...
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 41/42, Next Winner: Super Mario World

Does anyone agree with me in thinking that the 16 division has an effective lock on the finals?

LttP looks significantly stronger than anything 8 bit has to offer, and while I'm currently mourning for my bracket as we speak, imagine - just imagine - that fighting games were much stronger than we thought possible. And that somehow CT managed to squeak by LttP. Something stronger than LttP would make anything in the 8 bit division cry for mercy.

Ah who am i kidding, we have an all zelda final four, don't we.

Crud.
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SP2k4C : Winner - Chrono Trigger

*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #40 - (10) DOOM vs. (2) FINAL FANTASY 6 ***

Sales

Doom was one of the most legendary PC games in its time... and it was arguably the first scapegoat for video games causing violence. FF6 came out at a time when RPGs were still niche, though that was about to change.

- Advantage DOOM.

Franchises

How does it feel to get run over by a tank? Doom, beg for mercy.

- Advantage FF6.

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: FF6
Number of reviews: FF6
Average review score: FF6
Board activity: FF6

Can you say, monument to nonexistence?

- Advantage FF6.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Final Fantasy 6 - 99
Doom - 3

POINT VALUE
8. Final Fantasy 6 - 619
31. Doom - 66

The end of the world is going to do Doom in, and you know it.

- Advantage FF6.

Previous Rounds

Doom claimed a decent victory over Earthbound. Nothing FF6 couldn't do, despite a lackluster victory over Mortal Kombat.

- Advantage FF6.

Summer Contests / Polls of the Day

Never saw Doom involved in anything here before this contest. We know Kefka isn't any indicator of FF6's popularity, but it's hard to gauge the extent of that.

- UNAVAILABLE.

Intangibles

Normally I'd give it to FF6 just for having FF on the title... buy every round 2 match so far has been a surprise massacre, to the exception of... FF1's own match against Contra. When will the madness end?

- TIE.

Conclusion: FF6 easily picks up its second and obviously last win of the contest. It'd need 85-90% to put it back in contention against LttP... not gonna happen, sorry. (Of course, I've been saying that for every match in the last week...)
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 039/044 --- Matches: 33/38 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LttP

Well well well..the Greatest Generation is proving it yet again...Zelda trashing Metroid..but I think we are all jumping the gun a little bit...Why?

Well, all of us Elites know that FFVI will crush Doom by over 70% too, so that puts it on par with all the other 7 blowouts. We got 8 straight higher than expected margin victories. FFVII will be the 9th, etc. Basically the bums were cleaned out in Round 1, the pretenders are all getting weeded out this round, and the Sweet 16 is where it heats up in all the divisions. Only then can we really start talking about games running the table and all that. Still too early right now. Every day when another game, no matter what it is, gets over 70, you are all jumping all over it like a fat kid on a pizza and proclaiming it the winner, the finalist, etc! Its exciting yes, but we just cant get ahead of ourselves! :)

Link has always been favored over Samus, and Zelda over Metroid. I am surprised some at this margin, but not too surprised considering what I just said about favoring. Good thing I raised my Oracle 10 points...now my loss wont be as bad as it would have been had I not. I may actually make up some ground! :)

Someone mentioned MK beating Doom. Yep I do believe it would. Street Fighter 2 also would beat Doom.

Zelda trailer...pure bliss. I am no Nintendite fanboy, but this trailer impressed me a lot. I am already looking forward to more media of this game.

Now to write my commentary! :) Just another easy blowout...
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SCK24: 44/48 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years

Well, all of us Elites know that FFVI will crush Doom by over 70% too, so that puts it on par with all the other 7 blowouts.

Yes, but the other three games faced SMRPG, Sonic 2 and Super Metroid. And FF6 gets... DOOM? It would be cannon fodder for all of these three games, I say.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 039/044 --- Matches: 33/38 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LttP

I have a post in this topic before smitelf, Slowflake, cyko, ChichiriMuyo, steve illumina, Tai, and even Shake.

Damn, I feel all special.

My internet has been out for a few days :( I would have beat you to it but I couldn't come on. LOL

And Steve, I didn't call you Cockknocker, that's a name of a character from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and I was sorta quoting him. The line is "Don't **** with a Jedi master, son", and the character is played by Mark Hamill (SP?) making it a funny line. Athena sucks, Kensou is better. Hell, Bao is better. Mai is great, but Iori? I'd whip with Terry, but I don't own an Xbox, so unless you live in N. Arizona we can't see who is better... unless I get my internet situations stablized then I can kick your ass on KoF 98 or SNK vs. Capcom over Kawaks.

Wow, I should read the rest of this topic.
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ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia - UltimaterializerX
And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow

Yes, but the other three games faced SMRPG, Sonic 2 and Super Metroid. And FF6 gets... DOOM? It would be cannon fodder for all of these three games, I say.

True but keep in mind that SFF that will finally not be present.
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 43/44, Next Winner: Link to the Past

Are ya all ready? Fanboys? Gamers? Elites? Newbies? :) It's time for...the enhanced...

Steve Illumina Speaks

Indeed it is so, the infamous and ever humorous commentary continues, to offer some educated levity, here on this the true beacon of intelligence on this overly fanboy dominated board.

And so it proceeds, with the fall of a PC icon at the hands of a madman in the "Greatest Generation" Division

ROUND 2: Match XXXX

(10)Doom vs (2)Final Fantasy VI

Steve's Prediction: FF by 69.5%
Steve's Bracket: FF
Newbie's Pick: Uhhhh....ummmm...Umaro!
Upset Chances: Moving right along...

Comments: Here we have a simple match for the first of Square's gunnery...the back to back FF juggernaut, as beloved FFVI takes on Doom.

FFVI and its fanboys are sweating bullets, the rise of Nintendo and Zelda starting to worry them. Their brash confidence swaying in the winds of an aged Link, walking along the Lost Woods seeking his redemption and a return to the right hand of Miyamoto. Fear has gripped their hearts, their souls tremble as they ponder the possibilities...of thousands of Nintendites laughing as they spit on their graves, the voices of countless FF Fanboys screaming in unison...oh nevermind!

The FF fanboys now feel their holy trinity (FFVI, FFVII, and FFX) has to prove itself yet again. The beatdown of a helpless primate, the fall of a space oddity...its overblown to these FF diehards, who wave the banner of The Empire high, determined to march into the Sweet 16 flying high on all 3 fronts. Here it begins...as FFVI, the pride of the SNES, its finest RPG by far, shall crush poor hapless PC icon Doom with ease. For FFVI is a fine piece of Square engineering...a finer grade than CT yes it is. And I am sorry Nintendites, but Illusion of Gaia just cant play in this league...

Doom...you did well historically, and u beat a 4th rate cult classic, but your days of fragging here are over. So grab your shotguns and your gatlings, and move on down Loser's Way, the latest to fall. Meanwhile, I will take the 2 points and proceed to the Golden Age division, where 2 potential worrisome matches can be found.

Why FF Will Win: Voting blocks: FF Fanboys, RPG lovers, and the universal truth that this is the best FF in the eyes of many objective observers like myself. (Yep I do feel FFVI is the best quality FF, though FFIV is my personal favorite for sentimental reasons)

Why Doom Wont Win: Just not enough support from the commoners and the PC diehards even have wrote it off, throwing all their chips down for StarCraft next week...

Probable Results: Relm paints a picture, and Doom goes down in flames as did the house in Thamasa...70% is a low estimate!

Best Bosses: FFVI: Atma Weapon: Best. Boss Music. Ever. and his cryptic quotes are fitting and stir the passions to start the best scene in the game and possibly the series. Doom: The final boss...name withheld cause I forget. Heh.
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SCK24: 44/48 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years

And Steve, I didn't call you ****knocker, that's a name of a character from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and I was sorta quoting him. The line is "Don't **** with a Jedi master, son", and the character is played by Mark Hamill (SP?) making it a funny line. Athena sucks, Kensou is better. Hell, Bao is better. Mai is great, but Iori? I'd whip with Terry, but I don't own an Xbox, so unless you live in N. Arizona we can't see who is better... unless I get my internet situations stablized then I can kick your ass on KoF 98 or SNK vs. Capcom over Kawaks.

My bad..cause I never saw the movie, so that went way over my head when I saw it the other day. Its all godo then, I can appreciate the humor. Glad you are back though, was wonderign what happened to ya!

I live in PA, so I am out of luck taking u on...but it would be fun for bragging rights eh?
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SCK24: 44/48 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years

Well, SBM3 doesn't concern me anymore. I was afraid it would get to the finals, but now it has no chance of beating A Link to the Past, I'd say. It's performance against Metroid isn't looking as impressive as it did originally.

Getting to the finals it won`t, but I still believe that it`ll make it out of the division. I still have yet to be worried about that one, it might change with the next round matchups but as of right now nothing is making me believe LoZ is stronger.

It should also probably be a slight underdog against The Legend of Zelda. The Legend of Zelda's performance still looks ridiculous.

It did 8% better against one weak opponent, and one that came from Nintendo as well. I don`t see how you could give LoZ a slight favorite in this matchup unless your seeing something I`m not.

Final Fantasy VII looks like the best hope to prevent an all-Zelda Final Four.

I still think SMB3 has the best shot.

Eh? I doubt this. A Link to the Past is probably marginally weaker than Ocarina of Time.

OoT could still be slightly stronger, but for the most part I`d say LttP isn`t far off from OoT`s level.

I doubt momentum has to do with anything. This probably would've played out very similarly if had been taken place last Summer instead of this Spring.

Momentum would`ve been the wrong word, and I was commenting on how everyone here figured that the Square games and or characters were in for a nice ride due to the bias on this site, I think that clearly has changed sides.

While Chrono Trigger is definitely looking like a longshot to win the division right now, I still wouldn't count it out. Again, the Metroid franchise appears to be massively weak relative to other franchises. If Final Fantasy VI gets close to 80% against Doom it's right back in this too. I'm expecting about 77%, though I could see it going as low as 64%.

CT still has a chance but then again it still has to face SMW in a rather close match that`ll be coming up next round so I can`t say it`ll even make it to the division finals though its chances are better than not.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
But as the light fades... Will the hero rise again? Or will darkness reign?

At this point, it appears that SBM3 has an even shot to win the division at best. I'd say the difference in popularity between A Link to the Past and The Legend of Zelda is less than the difference between Metroid and Super Metroid, so we could think the The Legend of Zelda would PWN Metroid by as much as, or by more than, SMB3 did.

And what in the world would make you think that SMB3 wouldn`t do the same to Donkey Kong or Adventure as LoZ did? Really, I find it hard to believe that SMB3 couldn`t put up the exact same numbers if not better against the two opponents that LoZ had.

If I had to pick a favorite in that match, it would be The Legend of Zelda at this point, no question.

I`m still sticking with SMB3 for the division like I had from the start, LoZ hasn`t exactly exceeded my expectations in percentage at all. 86% is great, and so is 95% against Adventure but nothing says SMB3 could not do the exact same if not better... nothing.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
But as the light fades... Will the hero rise again? Or will darkness reign?

SMW against CT being a close match?

Somehow, with the way this contest is going, i doubt it.

It'll probably be 60-40 one way or the other. I can't legitimately see this being a close match.
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SP2k4C : Winner - Chrono Trigger

Ulti, you know better than to jump to conclusions after all this :)

I agree with him. =P

It certainly seems as if at least 3 Nintendo games will make the Final Four (Division 8 is a lock, and at least 2 out of the other 3 divisions is likely, whichever 2 they end up being). But I don't think it's assured that a Nintendo game will actually win.

I think OoT is going to beat FFVII, they are so even right now and with even a little perk to either would be enough to win. Its not assured, but its more likely than not... heh.

I mean, you can't seriously discount Final Fantasy VII already. It's had one match, and hasn't even underperformed yet!

It could still win, but like I said a while ago OoT is taking it down... ;) What do I have to back this up? Nothing but my gut feeling, heh. =P
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
But as the light fades... Will the hero rise again? Or will darkness reign?

SMW against CT being a close match?

At the most this match is going 55% for either one, no doubt at it. 70% against Sonic is nothing to joke about especially when CT got 66% aginst SMRPG.

Somehow, with the way this contest is going, i doubt it.

With the way the contest is going SMW would win.

It'll probably be 60-40 one way or the other. I can't legitimately see this being a close match.

I do, and with good reason. SMW went really high in its match against Sonic 2, while CT went high with its 66% against SMRPG. So even if SMRPG is stronger than Sonic 2 I wouldn`t say its much so I`m definitely looking for a close match and even a SMW upset.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
But as the light fades... Will the hero rise again? Or will darkness reign?

Theres the problem - assuming anything about this contest.

Its already shown that characters do not equal games. We do not know anything about the stength of most of these games at all. For all we know, SMRPG is one of the powerhouses of the division. For all we know, SMW could WIN the divison. Hell, for all we know Starcraft could win the tournament.

If we had any back knowledge for comparison, we'd have a chance at making predictions. But all of the analysis in the world isnt going to help when we have no idea how strong most of the competitors are.

And personally, i still believe that SMW-CT will be 60-40. I don't in any way claim that CT will pull it off (though for my bracket's sake im praying), but i have a feeling that there is a huge difference between SMRPG and Sonic 2, one way or the other. Round three will let us see which is which.


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SP2k4C : Winner - Chrono Trigger

Its already shown that characters do not equal games. We do not know anything about the stength of most of these games at all. For all we know, SMRPG is one of the powerhouses of the division. For all we know, SMW could WIN the divison. Hell, for all we know Starcraft could win the tournament.

I never said anything about characters in my post, I referred to the game Sonic 2 but never sonic himself. And the odds of SMRPG being a powerhouse are extremely, extremely unlikely it barely made it by Street Fighter 2 and I`d be hard pressed to believe SF2 is a major powerhouse as well. We have to assume things or we can`t have converstation and we have to look at what they`ve done or we can`t talk about it. Otherwise we`re just like, "Well lets just wait and see, yeah lets just wait and see." That makes for rather dull arguing. =\

If we had any back knowledge for comparison, we'd have a chance at making predictions. But all of the analysis in the world isnt going to help when we have no idea how strong most of the competitors are.

So we should just sit here and do nothing? People in here get proven wrong plenty of times in their analyzing of things, myself included, but to not analyze anything makes it kind of pointless to have this topic.

And personally, i still believe that SMW-CT will be 60-40. I don't in any way claim that CT will pull it off (though for my bracket's sake im praying), but i have a feeling that there is a huge difference between SMRPG and Sonic 2, one way or the other. Round three will let us see which is which.

That`d be massive difference for CT to get only 6% less than it did against SMRPG than SMW. That`s pretty much saying SMW and SMRPG are more equal to each other than not and SMRPG is in no way a favorite among the Mario fan crowd, especially not over SMW so that alone makes me think its going to be, at best, 55% for either.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
But as the light fades... Will the hero rise again? Or will darkness reign?

I never said you mentioned Sonic. I merely said that we have no way to know the actual strength of Sonic two in comparison to these other games, because they havent met up yet.

So we should just sit here and do nothing? People in here get proven wrong plenty of times in their analyzing of things, myself included, but to not analyze anything makes it kind of pointless to have this topic.

There's a difference between analysing and making huge assumptions that change with every new result. Almost nobody saw this string of blowouts coming, and to make assumptions right off the bat about how strong the games are is doesnt help in the long run. Our assumptions as to right now havent exactly proved helpful, and i don't see them suddenly starting to right now.

The two biggest problems as i see it right now:

1)We don't know what will happen when mario hits a RPG/adventure. We can get some impression of that from the SM64 match. We know that SM64 and SMW are close to one another, so if SM64 keeps it close to OoT then i think what your saying about CT vs SMW will probably hold true.

2)We don't know how strong fighting games are. The three fighting games in this contest are already out (momentarily counting out SSBM since it likely does not follow a normal fighter fanbase). However, we havent seen how two of the games that beat them have done yet. Tomorrow we see the FF3 vs Doom fight, with FF fresh off of a MK victory. If we get a bigger than expected blowout there, then we can count fighting games to be stronger than we thought. Likewise with Soul Calibur. It was almost a surprise upset last round, and we have yet to see how KH does this round. We also don't nessecarily know the strength of Starcraft, so this match won't be quite as hepful as tomorrows, but it will still go a far ways towards putting SMRPG vs SF2 into perspective.

We see tomorrows and monday's results, and then we can have a better understanding of whats going on. Till then, we're just rolling around in the chaos of the blowout fest this contest has become.
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SP2k4C : Winner - Chrono Trigger

Heroic Mario:
It did 8% better against one weak opponent, and one that came from Nintendo as well. I don`t see how you could give LoZ a slight favorite in this matchup

It's not 8%...a game would have to increase in relative popularity 69% to go from what Donkey Kong did to what Metroid did, assuming same strength opponents. That's very substantial.

It's very possible, as SMB3 is an incredibly strong game. But this is not at all a trivial difference.

And what in the world would make you think that SMB3 wouldn`t do the same to Donkey Kong or Adventure as LoZ did?

Exactly what I said: I think there's a bigger difference between the Metroid games than between the 8 bit and 16 bit Zelda games. I could be very wrong; an SMB3 victory over The Legend of Zelda would not be at all surprising. There is just no way to have much confidence in either game taking that match.

but nothing says SMB3 could not do the exact same if not better... nothing

See above. And we have nothing to indicate that SMB3 could pull off blowouts quite as massive against the same opponents (or 95% against any opponent), though I think it'd get close.

This match is a tough match to call, SMB3 could very well be capable of better than The Legend of Zelda--but there really isn't any way that SMB3 can be the favorite.

I think OoT is going to beat FFVII, they are so even right now and with even a little perk to either would be enough to win. Its not assured, but its more likely than not... heh.

Not to single you out, (I was going to post this anyway before I read your post) but it seems that people on these boards are jumping off the Final Fantasy VII bandwagon with record speed :)

I just don't see much reason for it. We've already seen Final Fantasy VII destroy a solid game. Now, that could very well not be that impressive when all is said and done. But up to this point, Final Fantasy VII has not been disappointing relative to Ocarina of Time at all.

Are a lot of people suddenly gonna jump back on if it annihilates Xenogears??


andaca:
For all we know, SMRPG is one of the powerhouses of the division. For all we know, SMW could WIN the divison. Hell, for all we know Starcraft could win the tournament.

The first is possible, I would doubt SMW could get past A Link to the Past, and I can tell you straight up that Starcraft will not win the tournament :)

I very much see what you're saying though. Many people are jumping to conclusions where there necessarily aren't any to be made. There're reasons to discount the performance of the Zelda/Mario games relative to other games, there're reasons to doubt SMRPG, there're reasons to think it's very strong, there're reasons to have a little doubt about almost everything.

I could see some people suddenly praising Final Fantasy VII if it does well against Xenogears, then breaking the sound barrier with the speed at which they whip their necks around if Ocarina of Time does well against Mario 64.

All this complete turnaround in opinions can be prevented if we accept that we don't know how things are as well as we thought we did.

What's the point of continually getting shocked? Just broaden our range of expectations and that won't happen anymore. Our dynamic expectations have to include increased volatility as well.

And personally, i still believe that SMW-CT will be 60-40.

I could see this. Like many have already said, it depends on the strength of SMRPG. If Sonic 2 is really as much stronger than SMRPG as we believed originally, then Chrono Trigger will get owned. If Street Fighter 2 is very strong, then Chrono Trigger has a good shot. Final Fantasy VI might be stronger than SMW as well. It's tough to buy SMRPG or Mortal Kombat being stronger than Sonic 2, but we don't really know enough to say.
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Before you say I'm jumping off the FF7 bandwagon, I'd like to say OoT has been my choice as Best. Game. Ever since day One. And what is happening currently seems to go in that direction. ^_^
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Before you say I'm jumping off the FF7 bandwagon, I'd like to say OoT has been my choice as Best. Game. Ever since day One. And what is happening currently seems to go in that direction. ^_^

Oh, I didn't say everybody, I said many :)

And I'm more talking about the people who thought Final Fantasy VII vs. Ocarina of Time was 50/50 before. Many of these people now think Ocarina of Time is some massive favorite, and I don't see much reason for that.

I guess the reasonsing is basically that the 8 bit and 16 bit Zelda games have blown away expectations up to this point, thus Final Fantasy VII stands little chance. That isn't very convincing. The relative strengths of Fallout 2 vs. Suikoden II remains the bigger issue to me, and we don't know much about that at all.
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I could see this. Like many have already said, it depends on the strength of SMRPG. If Sonic 2 is really as much stronger than SMRPG as we believed originally, then Chrono Trigger will get owned. If Street Fighter 2 is very strong, then Chrono Trigger has a good shot. Final Fantasy VI might be stronger than SMW as well. It's tough to buy SMRPG or Mortal Kombat being stronger than Sonic 2, but we don't really know enough to say.

True - Mortal Kombat i still can't imagine being stronger than Sonic 2, although i don't think it would be a blowout. However, i can envision a voter base here at gamefaqs which would give SF2 the win over Sonic 2, and thats the non-existent matchup on which i believe this division rests.

And hey, don't be putting down starcraft's championship hopes just yet...

;)
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A couple of random questions.

With Sonic 2`s performance, is it possible, hard as it may seem, to think of Sonic as obscure?

With the Street Sighter 2/SMRPG match, did we underestimate the strength of both games? Honestly, each side in that debate had very valid points, and for the most part, all points were proven. It`s just mind-boggling to think that both of those games could actually take down Sonic 2, that`s all.
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The relative strengths of Fallout 2 vs. Suikoden II remains the bigger issue to me, and we don't know much about that at all.

Tell me about it. As unsure of the comparisons i am about the comparisons people are making of games in this division, I am even less sure about Fallout 2 and Suikoden 2.

I think at this point OoT can be considered a slight favorite in the matchup, but that could completely change with a good showing by FF7. If OoT puts out the numbers against SM64 that i think it will (60+ percent) i would be willing to say it will be a close match with OoT maybe having a bit of a leg up on FF7. If Oot manages to pull a confusing round 2 style win of 70 percent or more, then i think the division could be gone then and there. I don't in any way see 70 percent being possible, but after everything we've seen i wouldnt count such an occurrence out.
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I ever tell you guys that ChichiriMuyo kicks ass?

ChichiriMuyo: this may be the damnedest thing
Ultimaterializer: yes?
ChichiriMuyo: but I think...
ChichiriMuyo: my firewall completely blocked access to the internet
ChichiriMuyo: even though it's supposed to let ie and aim through
ChichiriMuyo: I uninstalled it and everything works again
Ultimaterializer: LTTP in the finals like I said before listening to you turds :-P
Ultimaterializer: wow
Ultimaterializer: wierd
ChichiriMuyo: which is weird, cause I had it installed for weeks without any trouble
ChichiriMuyo: Finals?
Ultimaterializer: yeah, finals
ChichiriMuyo: for taking 75% on Metroid?
ChichiriMuyo: sure...
ChichiriMuyo: it's SUPER Metroid...
Ultimaterializer: 75% on Super Metroid? Dude, that doesn`t even worry you?
ChichiriMuyo: but c'mon
ChichiriMuyo: it's barely stronger than the original
ChichiriMuyo: nah
ChichiriMuyo: this is gamefaqs
Ultimaterializer: oh speaking of which, am I the only one who thinks that MP is the strongest Metroid?
ChichiriMuyo: where kids who never owned an SNES make up 40% of the vote
ChichiriMuyo: On gamefaqs, I'm certain it is
ChichiriMuyo: If we cut out everyone under 17 it'd be stomped into the ground by SM
ChichiriMuyo: but we've got kids that were just learning to walk while we were playing most of the games in the 16bit division
ChichiriMuyo: or maybe they were learning phonics
ChichiriMuyo: but they certainly weren't up on all the greatest games of te day
Ultimaterializer: LOL!
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This is why I try and avoid making pre-predictions. It's a lot easier and safer to analyse data when it's set in stone. I have no idea how any other match will turn out for the rest of the tourney, the results are that strange to me.

And Domadragon wins the topic.
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"Every day when another game, no matter what it is, gets over 70, you are all jumping all over it like a fat kid on a pizza and proclaiming it the winner, the finalist, etc! Its exciting yes, but we just cant get ahead of ourselves! :)"

Steve, despite us both being guys, I wanna have your baby. :P

All you people, you need to stop and think before you declare your daily "teh winnar!"

"Newbie's Pick: Uhhhh....ummmm...Umaro!"

Shouldn't that be LUE's pick? :)

Anyways, guys, don't forget... most of the voters didn't know there even was a Super Metroid when it was out. They probably only knew of the SNES as something they weren't allowed to touch! While it's not sensible from an OG's (older gamer) standpoint, I'm gonna say Prime is the strongest Metroid on this site by a wide margin.
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I refuse to judge FF7's strength until it goes up against MGS, but OoT's strength can be somewhat evaluated when it goes up against Mario64. Remember Mario64 is slightly superior to SMW(according to POTD) and we already have FF7's number against Chrono Trigger somewhere.
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Contest Score: 44/192
Next Pick : A Link to the Past

Much like the Contest, Chichiri, you're making less sense daily. If 40% of the site never owned an SNES/NES, how do you explain this result?

What's your favorite all-time Metroid title?
Metroid 8.66% 4449
Metroid II 2.3% 1182
Super Metroid 39.84% 20475
Metroid Fusion 9.56% 4915
Metroid Prime 34.57% 17769
Metroid: Zero Mission 5.07% 2605
TOTAL VOTES 51395
http://gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1528

If the average user is so young, how do you explain this result?

Have you ever owned an NES?
Yes, and I still play it 25.8% 19578
Yes, and I still have mine 26.16% 19851
Yes, but I got rid of it 26.21% 19890
No, but I've played one 17.32% 13139
No, and I've never played one 4.5% 3416
TOTAL VOTES 75874
http://gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1514

Nearly 80% of this site has owned an NES in the past. Yet 20% of those users skipped out on the SNES for some reason?

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DomaDragoon:
the results are that strange to me.

You know, to me that sounds like something Unfrozen Cave-Man Lawyer would say ;)

andaca:
I don't in any way see 70 percent being possible, but after everything we've seen i wouldnt count such an occurrence out

I originally expected 65% there before the contest, so 70% isn't out of the ballpark for me. Mario 64 could always surprise on the positive side though. Mario could be further from his games than Link is, which taken in character contest terms could mean SMW and Mario 64 might actually be capable of winning their divisions, if it weren't for the fact that what is not the strongest Zelda game did almost as good against the strongest Metroid game as the strongest Mario game did against the 3rd strongest Metroid game. Not like speaking in character contest terms is even worthy of bothering with anymore anyway.

Chichiri:
I'm gonna say Prime is the strongest Metroid on this site by a wide margin.

I'm finding that to be very unlikely (to say the least). I could see them being about equal, mayby Prime slightly stronger, but not by much.

most of the voters didn't know there even was a Super Metroid when it was out. They probably only knew of the SNES as something they weren't allowed to touch!

There's a lot of GameCube bias on this site, but could the sales of any large Nintendo franchise's GameCube version remotely compare to the sales of that franchise's SNES version? Though there's no data, I'm guessing that's a big "NO." As difficult as it is to say anything with confidence, right now Metroid Prime is looking like no threat to anything.

SNES games are probably significantly stronger than GameCube games on this site; the SNES and PlayStation are probably the strongest systems here. The "voters haven't played it" thing doesn't seem to hold at all.
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Yeah Ngamer, exactly. The SNES is *the* system around here, though I think PlayStation games would be very comparable in terms of contset strength, with N64 games only being slightly behind.

There's little reason to believe the GameCube is that close to them, and a lot of reasons to believe it's not.
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there's a lot of talk in this thread about metroid being a weak franchise.
this is...blatantly false.
how could samus have made the quarterfinals twice if it was true?

i believe that metroid is only weak in relation to mario and zelda, which also come from nintendo.
every metroid game has lost (or will lose) to those franchises.
with different bracket positions, this contest could be even more dominated by nintendo than it already is...

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from domadragoon:
This is why I try and avoid making pre-predictions. It's a lot easier and safer to analyse data when it's set in stone. I have no idea how any other match will turn out for the rest of the tourney, the results are that strange to me.
from acanda:
And Domadragon wins the topic.

seconded.
...definitely seconded.

from chichirimuyo:
All you people, you need to stop and think before you declare your daily "teh winnar!"

i've been saying this for a while now.
but no one seems to be listening.

...should i be worried that no one responds to any of my posts unless i deliberately try to sound like a troll...?
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Yeah, people have been changing their minds as quickly as the contest voters. But this consistent 75000 vote turnout is disheartening.
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...and i apologize for butchering your name, andaca.
i meant to doublecheck that before i posted...
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^Agreed, arguably LttP is the only game Super Metroid has no shot agaist. Same may hold true for Metroid Prime to a lesser degree.
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Contest Score: 44/192
Next Pick : A Link to the Past

I'm just going to sit back and let things happen instead of switching back and forth between favorites. This contest has been completely unpredictable. I'm just going to enjoy the chaos.

I don't consider an all-Zelda Final Four to be a lock at all. I still think Mario 3 will beat Legend of Zelda, and I don't understand why everyone has suddenly decided that Wind Waker is the favorite of the 128 division. FFX performed similarly, and I refuse to believe that Skies of Arcadia is THAT much stronger than Shenmue. I just can't see it.
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It's not 8%...a game would have to increase in relative popularity 69% to go from what Donkey Kong did to what Metroid did, assuming same strength opponents. That's very substantial.

It's very possible, as SMB3 is an incredibly strong game. But this is not at all a trivial difference.

Exactly what I said: I think there's a bigger difference between the Metroid games than between the 8 bit and 16 bit Zelda games. I could be very wrong; an SMB3 victory over The Legend of Zelda would not be at all surprising. There is just no way to have much confidence in either game taking that match.

Though in a later post you exclaimed that LoZ was going to win that match with I believe the words, "no doubt" after it. I`m not saying LoZ can`t win the match, but against a game like SMB3, its not like LoZ has just been killing hard opponents, and I have not exactly seen it overperform my personal expectations thats why I don`t believe its going to win against SMB3 an extremely liked Mario game. But it can definitely win, I`m just not one whose going to see it until I can see LoZ face someone whose worth commenting on like Tetris.

See above. And we have nothing to indicate that SMB3 could pull off blowouts quite as massive against the same opponents (or 95% against any opponent), though I think it'd get close.

And what in the world would you have that says it can`t? I have no reason to believe it couldn`t match LoZ`s blowouts for each one and in one case get above it.

This match is a tough match to call, SMB3 could very well be capable of better than The Legend of Zelda--but there really isn't any way that SMB3 can be the favorite.

Thats fine, but all the same you can`t go out and call LoZ a favorite either. Unless you just believe that LoZ`s blowouts are just to much for SMB3 to obtain - which I think its more than capable of doing.

Not to single you out, (I was going to post this anyway before I read your post) but it seems that people on these boards are jumping off the Final Fantasy VII bandwagon with record speed :)

Lol, no doubt about it. I haven`t seen nearly as many posts about FFVII taking the contest, a few here and there but not as many as before. =P

I just don't see much reason for it. We've already seen Final Fantasy VII destroy a solid game. Now, that could very well not be that impressive when all is said and done. But up to this point, Final Fantasy VII has not been disappointing relative to Ocarina of Time at all.

Yeah, FFVII definitely has done well and nothing unimpressive from it. I`m just going with a gut feeling myself rather than performances since they both have done well.

Are a lot of people suddenly gonna jump back on if it annihilates Xenogears??

It wouldn`t surprise me at all. A big win for FFVII and I bet it goes back to being "unstoppable" by people at the board, heh.

I could see this. Like many have already said, it depends on the strength of SMRPG. If Sonic 2 is really as much stronger than SMRPG as we believed originally, then Chrono Trigger will get owned. If Street Fighter 2 is very strong, then Chrono Trigger has a good shot. Final Fantasy VI might be stronger than SMW as well. It's tough to buy SMRPG or Mortal Kombat being stronger than Sonic 2, but we don't really know enough to say.

Lets say that SMRPG is stronger than Sonic 2, just for this little question, how much stronger would you think it`d be?
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Remember Mario64 is slightly superior to SMW(according to POTD) and we already have FF7's number against Chrono Trigger somewhere.

As a whole SMW is definitely the stronger of the two with SMB3 being stronger than both. I have no doubt in my mind that in a poll SMW would beat SM64, and furthermore among Mario fans SMW is held in more of a favorite position over SM64. But nonetheless they are pretty even.

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What's the point of continually getting shocked? Just broaden our range of expectations and that won't happen anymore. Our dynamic expectations have to include increased volatility as well.

not a whole lot of matches this contest have truly shocked me.today's match is the only one so far that made my jaw hit the floor. i seriously thought Super Metroid would put up a fight. 75% to 25%? this is ridiculous.

Are a lot of people suddenly gonna jump back on if it annihilates Xenogears??

lol, yup. watch and see. the way things have gone so far, i guess same company matches have all been blowouts. that means Xenogears will probably get fewer votes against FF7 than it would against a non-Square game. i guess that SFF does spill over into games from the same company. i don't like that very much. =/

anyways, yeah, because they are from the same company FF7 will most likely beat Xenogears harder than it did Suikoden 2, reaching the mid to high 80's; possibly even higher than Zelda 1 got against DK.

so, yeah, after that match everyone will change their minds again and say "FF7 is unstoppable!!! it got the highest blowout this round!!" maybe we won't say it much in this topic, but people across the board will jump right back on the FF7 bandwagon. =P


With Sonic 2`s performance, is it possible, hard as it may seem, to think of Sonic as obscure?

Sonic 2 obscure? absloutely not.

Sonic 2 a mediocre game? definitely.

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Looks like a lot of people are jumping on the "don't be too hasty drawing conclusions" bandwagon now :) I'm definitely a member of that.

Heroic Mario:
Though in a later post you exclaimed that LoZ was going to win that match with I believe the words, "no doubt" after it.

No, I said that *if* there was a favorite, it would have to be The Legend of Zelda, no doubt.

And what in the world would you have that says it can`t? I have no reason to believe it couldn`t match LoZ`s blowouts for each one and in one case get above it.

I didn't say it can't, I specifically said it very well could. There's just not much that indicates it can.

A victory for either game shouldn't surprise anybody, it's a very difficult match to call.

Lets say that SMRPG is stronger than Sonic 2, just for this little question, how much stronger would you think it`d be?

No idea...that's the big mystery, isn't it? How strong is SMRPG? How strong are fighting games?

If Final Fantasy VI underperforms against Doom, that might have some bearing on SMRPG. But you still probably wouldn't be able to draw sweeping conclusions.

I have no doubt in my mind that in a poll SMW would beat SM64

I think it's questionable. It would be close (excluding SFF).

Just speaking for myself, both were great games. But I liked SMW better. Even if it weren't for the fact that it had Luigi, while Mario 64 did not :(

cyko:
anyways, yeah, because they are from the same company FF7 will most likely beat Xenogears harder than it did Suikoden 2, reaching the mid to high 80's; possibly even higher than Zelda 1 got against DK

I don't think it's possible for Xenogears to do worse than Suikoden II. Xenogears is cult, but it's on a different level in terms of cult fanbase. It should be much stronger than Suikoden II. I would be utterly dumbfounded it Final Fantasy VII got higher than 85% there.
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No, I said that *if* there was a favorite, it would have to be The Legend of Zelda, no doubt.

Ah, I see, my mistake.

I didn't say it can't, I specifically said it very well could. There's just not much that indicates it can.

Being SMB3 should say something... =P

A victory for either game shouldn't surprise anybody, it's a very difficult match to call.

That`d be the truth, it`d be more of a disappointment to me that LoZ one - though the came is number 5 on my favorite list - just because I prefer SMB3.

No idea...that's the big mystery, isn't it? How strong is SMRPG? How strong are fighting games?

Yeah, pretty much. I dunno, I just don`t think Sonic 2 could be all that much weaker... then again... it could.

If Final Fantasy VI underperforms against Doom, that might have some bearing on SMRPG. But you still probably wouldn't be able to draw sweeping conclusions.

What are we looking at again for FFVI? I forgot. Is is it 70%?

I think it's questionable. It would be close (excluding SFF).

It`d be close, but among the Nintendo crowd they definitely prefer SMW I can give you that side.

Just speaking for myself, both were great games. But I liked SMW better. Even if it weren't for the fact that it had Luigi, while Mario 64 did not :(

I hear ya, Luigi missing from SM64 sucked. =\
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What are we looking at again for FFVI? I forgot. Is is it 70%?

I'm looking for FFVI to get anything less than 50... but to put a semi-serious hat on here, I don't think it matters what it gets against Doom. I've said in another thread that I'll only believe FF6 has a chance against Zelda if it gets 115%.
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Being SMB3 should say something... =P

Oh, for sure, it does.

That's why the match is so up in the air.

What are we looking at again for FFVI? I forgot. Is is it 70%?

I guess...though my expectations would've been for Mortal Kombat to be stronger than Doom before the contest started.

I was very surprised at the lack of respect people had for Mortal Kombat, actually. Before seeing people's predictions I would've thought 65% for Final Fantasy VI against Mortal Kombat would've been good. Even though I thought Mortal Kombat was being underrated, I upped my Oracle Final Fantasy VI prediction out of sheer fanboy bias.

This next match is yet another unpredictable one. Final Fantasy VI might get only slightly above 60%, or it could get 80%. If it gets close to 80% I think we have have an indication that fighting games are strong, though again, it wouldn't be conclusive.

BTW, have you checked out the Frog section on my site? I'm having a tough time getting people to check it out it seems. I haven't received a single comment about it yet.
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All it takes is one zelda trailer.......
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Like the rest of your site, the Frog section owned. =)
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I've got nothing to say. Just look at the results.

Although as far as I'm concerned, tomorrow's match tells us nothing at all about FFVI. Super Metroid and Gunstar Heroes are two entirely different tiers. I personally don't think that Mortal Kombat and Doom are different tiers let alone far distant ones.

This match will tell us nothing about FFVI, but everything about Doom.
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