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Stats & Discussion - Spring 2004 Contest - Part 4
From: SlangEdter41
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:26:28 PM | Message Detail
Personally, I think Zelda games more than any other franchize, are more
or less of same strength, unless they are matched up against one
another. Of course OoT is the strongest, but I think other 3 aren't
that far off. Heck, I think Majora's Mask would have been the third
strongest game in 32/64 division.
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:30:16 PM | Message Detail
Personally, I think Zelda games more than any other franchize, are more or less of same strength,
They are probably the closest in strength compared to other franchises like Metroid and Final Fantasy where there is one clear-cut favorite and the rest just are good. Though despite, I`m not convinced by anything that LoZ is nearly equal, or even that close to OoT, LttP on the other hand I`d wager to say is.
unless they are matched up against one another. Of course OoT is the strongest, but I think other 3 aren't that far off. Heck, I think Majora's Mask would have been the third strongest game in 32/64 division.
I would say LttP is almost OoT`s equal, Wind Waker and LoZ being a bit further down the line. I don`t think Wind Waker nor LoZ are at the strength of OoT or even that close to it. Also, I`d have a hard time believing Majora`s Mask - though a great game - could beat SM64.
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They are probably the closest in strength compared to other franchises like Metroid and Final Fantasy where there is one clear-cut favorite and the rest just are good. Though despite, I`m not convinced by anything that LoZ is nearly equal, or even that close to OoT, LttP on the other hand I`d wager to say is.
unless they are matched up against one another. Of course OoT is the strongest, but I think other 3 aren't that far off. Heck, I think Majora's Mask would have been the third strongest game in 32/64 division.
I would say LttP is almost OoT`s equal, Wind Waker and LoZ being a bit further down the line. I don`t think Wind Waker nor LoZ are at the strength of OoT or even that close to it. Also, I`d have a hard time believing Majora`s Mask - though a great game - could beat SM64.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
From: Heroic Tails
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:32:52 PM | Message Detail
Mario 64 would win against Majora's Mask, although it'd probably be close.
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From: SlangEdter41
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:37:31 PM | Message Detail
I guess you two are hard to please. This match will end up as one of
top 10 blowouts, counting last 2 character battles. The percentage
difference as of now is bigger than Cloud vs Cats, and just smaller
than Sephiroth vs Gabe Logan. LoZ just made a non-fodder game look
worse than Cats!
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:39:52 PM | Message Detail
I guess you two are hard to please.
Its doing well, but when you expect something along these lines it doesn`t look as impressive to those who figured it`d be closer.
LoZ just made a non-fodder game look worse than Cats!
Donkey Kong was far, far from any type of competition as well. There are many games in this division stronger than Donkey Kong, and the fact it comes from Nintendo only helps LoZ.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
Its doing well, but when you expect something along these lines it doesn`t look as impressive to those who figured it`d be closer.
LoZ just made a non-fodder game look worse than Cats!
Donkey Kong was far, far from any type of competition as well. There are many games in this division stronger than Donkey Kong, and the fact it comes from Nintendo only helps LoZ.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:41:36 PM | Message Detail
Yup... and the only bigger second round blowout, EVER, was Megaman vs. Serious Sam.
Revenge of the 3-seed... I guess that curse is pretty much lifted.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
Revenge of the 3-seed... I guess that curse is pretty much lifted.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:42:26 PM | Message Detail
actually Super Mario Bros. 3 took SECOND PLACE in Gamespy's contest.
it lost in the final round to Half-Life. all on a huge PC based site.
Whoops! Thanks for pointing that out, cyko. The last I saw Mario 3 was down to Doom by like 100 votes with a few hours to go, but I never went back to check how that ended up. Let's see here... Whoa, Mario won by 2 votes! Then went on to hold HL to a highly respectable 58% in the Final. Very impressive.
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Whoops! Thanks for pointing that out, cyko. The last I saw Mario 3 was down to Doom by like 100 votes with a few hours to go, but I never went back to check how that ended up. Let's see here... Whoa, Mario won by 2 votes! Then went on to hold HL to a highly respectable 58% in the Final. Very impressive.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:44:24 PM | Message Detail
Not that hard a curse to break when your Zelda and your opponent is Donkey Kong. =P
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:47:57 PM | Message Detail
Just for fun, a list of the blowouts bigger than today's:
Megaman vs. Ms. Pac-Man
Sephiroth vs. Gabe Logan
Megaman vs. Serious Sam
Link vs. AiAi
Mario Mario vs. Captain Olimar
Megaman vs. Mr. Resetti
Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past vs. Gunstar Heroes
PENDING REVIEW: Cloud Strife vs. CATS
PENDING REVIEW: Crono vs. Tom Nook
PENDING REVIEW: Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time vs. Fallout 2
Look how Donkey Kong doesn't quite fit with the losers of these matches? Heck, DK even got 17% on Mario, at least.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
Megaman vs. Ms. Pac-Man
Sephiroth vs. Gabe Logan
Megaman vs. Serious Sam
Link vs. AiAi
Mario Mario vs. Captain Olimar
Megaman vs. Mr. Resetti
Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past vs. Gunstar Heroes
PENDING REVIEW: Cloud Strife vs. CATS
PENDING REVIEW: Crono vs. Tom Nook
PENDING REVIEW: Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time vs. Fallout 2
Look how Donkey Kong doesn't quite fit with the losers of these matches? Heck, DK even got 17% on Mario, at least.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
From: SlangEdter41
| Posted: 5/8/2004 4:59:07 PM | Message Detail
Only 17%?
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
From: SlangEdter41
| Posted: 5/8/2004 5:02:48 PM | Message Detail
Close enough, DK took 18.02 percent. Still impressive for Mario.
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/8/2004 5:03:24 PM | Message Detail
Donkey Kong, the character, has a lot more going for him than just the singular Arcade game, Donkey Kong.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/8/2004 5:04:09 PM | Message Detail
And if Mario, the character, can manage that much it puts an even
firmer believe that SMB3 would be doing at least what LoZ is doing
today.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/8/2004 5:45:16 PM | Message Detail
However, while Mario got 82% against the character, it gradually gets
tougher to gain points as the percentage increases. And remember that
without SFF, Donkey Kong would have snagged around 32% against Mario.
So, there's still a limit to the amount of suffering something can endure, even with SFF, and for a legendary name like DK, 12-13% seems to be it. Plus, remember what I said about tightening scores within franchises? There's already a huge difference between 13% and 18%.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
So, there's still a limit to the amount of suffering something can endure, even with SFF, and for a legendary name like DK, 12-13% seems to be it. Plus, remember what I said about tightening scores within franchises? There's already a huge difference between 13% and 18%.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
From: redline15
| Posted: 5/8/2004 6:08:18 PM | Message Detail
from creativename:
SMB3 looked unstoppable after it crushed Metroid, and The Legend of Zelda looks unstoppable now.
yeah...that's what great about all this "analysis."
the landscape of the entire tournament changes with every single poll.
...it's ****ing beautiful.
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SMB3 looked unstoppable after it crushed Metroid, and The Legend of Zelda looks unstoppable now.
yeah...that's what great about all this "analysis."
the landscape of the entire tournament changes with every single poll.
...it's ****ing beautiful.
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From: redline15
| Posted: 5/8/2004 6:11:03 PM | Message Detail
oh, and:
from yesmar:
"Words, feelings. . .should have sent. . .a poet."
...that looks entirely too familiar. where is it from...?
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from yesmar:
"Words, feelings. . .should have sent. . .a poet."
...that looks entirely too familiar. where is it from...?
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From: charmander6000
| Posted: 5/8/2004 8:20:49 PM | Message Detail
Wow as of now the all time records are...
10th in the biggest blowouts
and
6th in the lowest individual votes
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My Score 33/36 LoZ vs. Donkey Kong
10th in the biggest blowouts
and
6th in the lowest individual votes
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 33/36 LoZ vs. Donkey Kong
From: creativename
| Posted: 5/9/2004 12:30:07 AM | Message Detail
Ngamer:
Would Mario have put up 78% in a direct matchup with Samus? Would he even be able to manage 58%? Very doubtful
Mario vs. Samus would be a complete toss-up actually.
Chichiri:
LoZ was a juggernaut compared to Metroid, they weren't even close to being in the same league
I didn't say they were, in my last post I stated that these games were way ahead of Metroid. My point was that Metal Gear was in no way close to Metroid.
Second issue, the reviews haven't got jack**** to do with the game sales
Not average review score, number of reviews. Anywhere you look number of reviews is loosely correlated with revenues. There are some exceptions, especially in the case of notorious products (such as the movie Gigli, which has a lot of reviews anywhere you look because of the publicity, but had dismal box office), but for the most part higher revenue products will accumulate more reviews. This cannot be disputed.
We'll say the top tier has The Zeldas and Marios and only the things that could actually compete with it (which doens't include Metroid), which is a really short list. the second tier will have Metroid, and the close but not quite 3rd tier will have Metal Gear
I was thinking the same thing, except that I believed Metal Gear to be way behind Metroid.
You're posting of the rankings showing Metal Gear to be only slightly behind Metroid has led me to reconsider, and concede that you were very possibly correct.
Please lay off the silly insults though, they don't belong in this topic.
There is a difference, but it's not like OoT is so much stronger than LoZ that it could have gotten an ungodly 97% on Adventure.... or at least I hope not, because that'd be sick.
There'd be a pretty huge difference between 97% and 95.2% actually, according to properties of the distribution that would imply a 68.75% victory for the 97% game over the 95.2% game, and I don't think that would happen here without SFF. And I don't think The Legend of Zelda would be hurt much by SFF against Ocarina of Time anyway. (though it is possible)
Anyone who says they believe one game has a huge advantage over the other need to not speak :) It's a toss-up, and it will be a toss-up until they meet.
Agreed. I, too, have been saying SMB3 was very much over-favored in this division from the beginning. While I would have still considered it the favorite before, now the match is almost completely uncallable.
cyko:
if by some insane miracle, this all Zelda Final Four actually happened, then i personally guarantee you that Link would not win this year's Character Contest
Er...quite the contrary. You should increase your odds of Link winning. Remember that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that anti-champion/anti-favorite votes exist in meanginful quantities. If an all-Zelda Final Four occurred, Link should once again be the clear favorite in the character contest, barring some sort of format revisions that change the dynamics of the contest. Especially since I am leery of Cloud/Sephiroth reverting somewhat back to their old popularities, though that isn't a sure thing at all.
Slowflake:
Revenge of the 3-seed... I guess that curse is pretty much lifted.
Wow...I totally forgot about that curse. Yeah, The Legend of Zelda has officially PWNed all that voodoo that they do.
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Would Mario have put up 78% in a direct matchup with Samus? Would he even be able to manage 58%? Very doubtful
Mario vs. Samus would be a complete toss-up actually.
Chichiri:
LoZ was a juggernaut compared to Metroid, they weren't even close to being in the same league
I didn't say they were, in my last post I stated that these games were way ahead of Metroid. My point was that Metal Gear was in no way close to Metroid.
Second issue, the reviews haven't got jack**** to do with the game sales
Not average review score, number of reviews. Anywhere you look number of reviews is loosely correlated with revenues. There are some exceptions, especially in the case of notorious products (such as the movie Gigli, which has a lot of reviews anywhere you look because of the publicity, but had dismal box office), but for the most part higher revenue products will accumulate more reviews. This cannot be disputed.
We'll say the top tier has The Zeldas and Marios and only the things that could actually compete with it (which doens't include Metroid), which is a really short list. the second tier will have Metroid, and the close but not quite 3rd tier will have Metal Gear
I was thinking the same thing, except that I believed Metal Gear to be way behind Metroid.
You're posting of the rankings showing Metal Gear to be only slightly behind Metroid has led me to reconsider, and concede that you were very possibly correct.
Please lay off the silly insults though, they don't belong in this topic.
There is a difference, but it's not like OoT is so much stronger than LoZ that it could have gotten an ungodly 97% on Adventure.... or at least I hope not, because that'd be sick.
There'd be a pretty huge difference between 97% and 95.2% actually, according to properties of the distribution that would imply a 68.75% victory for the 97% game over the 95.2% game, and I don't think that would happen here without SFF. And I don't think The Legend of Zelda would be hurt much by SFF against Ocarina of Time anyway. (though it is possible)
Anyone who says they believe one game has a huge advantage over the other need to not speak :) It's a toss-up, and it will be a toss-up until they meet.
Agreed. I, too, have been saying SMB3 was very much over-favored in this division from the beginning. While I would have still considered it the favorite before, now the match is almost completely uncallable.
cyko:
if by some insane miracle, this all Zelda Final Four actually happened, then i personally guarantee you that Link would not win this year's Character Contest
Er...quite the contrary. You should increase your odds of Link winning. Remember that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that anti-champion/anti-favorite votes exist in meanginful quantities. If an all-Zelda Final Four occurred, Link should once again be the clear favorite in the character contest, barring some sort of format revisions that change the dynamics of the contest. Especially since I am leery of Cloud/Sephiroth reverting somewhat back to their old popularities, though that isn't a sure thing at all.
Slowflake:
Revenge of the 3-seed... I guess that curse is pretty much lifted.
Wow...I totally forgot about that curse. Yeah, The Legend of Zelda has officially PWNed all that voodoo that they do.
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/9/2004 12:35:33 AM | Message Detail
Well, Tetris is making Pong look worse than Galaga right now.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 5/9/2004 12:37:30 AM | Message Detail
That`s because Galaga rocks, yo.
And redline, that quote is from a movie entitled Contact.
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And redline, that quote is from a movie entitled Contact.
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I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf
From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/9/2004 12:38:43 AM | Message Detail
Yes it does Ulti, just never figured it`d be stronger than Pong on here, but hey I`m not complaining. =)
Er...quite the contrary. You should increase your odds of Link winning.
I agree with that.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
Er...quite the contrary. You should increase your odds of Link winning.
I agree with that.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 5/9/2004 3:38:40 AM | Message Detail
Best. Picture. Ever.
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From: smitelf
| Posted: 5/9/2004 5:01:35 AM | Message Detail
^agreed
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 35/36, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda
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Current Sp2K4 Score: 35/36, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:11:36 AM | Message Detail
And we have 2 new updates in the All Time Records
All Time Records
Top 10 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)
1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
2) 84.60% - Mega Man vs. Ms. Pac-Man (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 83.68% - Mega Man vs. Serious Sam (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 82.70% - Link vs. AiAi (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda: LTTP vs. Gunstar Heroes (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
6) 77.92% - Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 76.84% - Mario vs. Captain Olimar (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 75.42% - Sephiroth vs. Gabe Logan (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
9) 75.28% - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
10) 74.08% - Legend of Zelda vs. Donkey Kong (II) from 2004 Spring Contest
Top 10 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)
1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
2) 84196 - Link vs. AiAi (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 80505 - Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
4) 79918 - Cloud Strife vs. CATS (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 78272 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP vs. Gunstar Heroes (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
6) 77511 - Mario vs. Captain Olimar (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 76348 - Final Fantasy 7 vs. Suikoden 2 (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
8) 74682 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
9) 73838 - Crono vs. Tom Nook (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
10) 70809 - Sephiroth vs. Max Payne (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
Top 10 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)
1) 0.04% - Samus Aran vs. Sonic the Hedgehog (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
2) 0.10% - Mario vs. Crono (V) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 0.10% - Mario vs. Crono (III) from 2003 Summer Contest
4) 0.14% - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
5) 0.22% - Mario vs. Cloud Strife (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 0.34% - Starcraft vs. Halo (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
7) 0.60% - Magus vs. Ganondorf (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 0.96% - Tommy Vercetti vs. Donkey Kong (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 1.02% - Sephiroth vs. Mega Man (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 1.20% - Kingdom Hearts vs. Soul Calibur (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)
1) 34 - Samus Aran vs. Sonic the Hedgehog (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
2) 115 - Mario vs. Crono (V) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 137 - Mario vs. Crono (III) from 2003 Summer Contest
4) 143 - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
5) 277 - Mario vs. Cloud Strife (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 373 - Starcraft vs. Halo (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
7) 650 - Magus vs. Ganondorf (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 968 - Tommy Vercetti vs. Donkey Kong (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 987 - Sephiroth vs. Mega Man (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 1088 - Kingdom Hearts vs. Soul Calibur (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)
1) 147637 - Cloud Strife vs. Link (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 133005 - Mario vs. Crono (III) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 129703 - Mario vs. Cloud Strife (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 124443 - Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth (VI) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 124192 - Sephiroth vs. Mega Man (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
6) 123587 - Sephiroth vs. Mario (IV) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 118961 - Mega Man vs. Solid Snake (IV) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 116190 - Squall Leonhart vs. Luigi (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 115738 - Ganondorf vs. Tidus (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
10) 113881 - Zelda vs. Lara Croft (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 33/36 LoZ vs. Donkey Kong
All Time Records
Top 10 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)
1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
2) 84.60% - Mega Man vs. Ms. Pac-Man (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 83.68% - Mega Man vs. Serious Sam (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 82.70% - Link vs. AiAi (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda: LTTP vs. Gunstar Heroes (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
6) 77.92% - Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 76.84% - Mario vs. Captain Olimar (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 75.42% - Sephiroth vs. Gabe Logan (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
9) 75.28% - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
10) 74.08% - Legend of Zelda vs. Donkey Kong (II) from 2004 Spring Contest
Top 10 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)
1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
2) 84196 - Link vs. AiAi (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 80505 - Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
4) 79918 - Cloud Strife vs. CATS (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 78272 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP vs. Gunstar Heroes (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
6) 77511 - Mario vs. Captain Olimar (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 76348 - Final Fantasy 7 vs. Suikoden 2 (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
8) 74682 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
9) 73838 - Crono vs. Tom Nook (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
10) 70809 - Sephiroth vs. Max Payne (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
Top 10 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)
1) 0.04% - Samus Aran vs. Sonic the Hedgehog (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
2) 0.10% - Mario vs. Crono (V) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 0.10% - Mario vs. Crono (III) from 2003 Summer Contest
4) 0.14% - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
5) 0.22% - Mario vs. Cloud Strife (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 0.34% - Starcraft vs. Halo (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
7) 0.60% - Magus vs. Ganondorf (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 0.96% - Tommy Vercetti vs. Donkey Kong (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 1.02% - Sephiroth vs. Mega Man (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 1.20% - Kingdom Hearts vs. Soul Calibur (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)
1) 34 - Samus Aran vs. Sonic the Hedgehog (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
2) 115 - Mario vs. Crono (V) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 137 - Mario vs. Crono (III) from 2003 Summer Contest
4) 143 - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
5) 277 - Mario vs. Cloud Strife (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 373 - Starcraft vs. Halo (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
7) 650 - Magus vs. Ganondorf (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 968 - Tommy Vercetti vs. Donkey Kong (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 987 - Sephiroth vs. Mega Man (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 1088 - Kingdom Hearts vs. Soul Calibur (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)
1) 147637 - Cloud Strife vs. Link (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 133005 - Mario vs. Crono (III) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 129703 - Mario vs. Cloud Strife (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 124443 - Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth (VI) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 124192 - Sephiroth vs. Mega Man (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
6) 123587 - Sephiroth vs. Mario (IV) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 118961 - Mega Man vs. Solid Snake (IV) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 116190 - Squall Leonhart vs. Luigi (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 115738 - Ganondorf vs. Tidus (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
10) 113881 - Zelda vs. Lara Croft (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 33/36 LoZ vs. Donkey Kong
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:12:15 AM | Message Detail
Top 10 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)
1) 50816 - Max Payne vs. Dirk the Daring (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
2) 51889 - Pac-Man vs. Kyo Kusanagi (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 52419 - Bomberman vs. Kane (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 52618 - Donkey Kong vs. Bub (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
5) 52874 - Duke Nukem vs. Iori Yagami (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 53213 - Mario vs. Servbot (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
7) 53920 - Kyo Kusanagi vs. Abe (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
8) 54997 - Serious Sam vs. Mr. Driller (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
9) 55392 - Ryo Hazuki vs. Guybrush Threepwood (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 56361 - Tina Armstrong vs. Gordon Freeman (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
Top 10 Highest Individual Votes
1) 94086 - Cloud Strife (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 92998 - Link (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 92894 - Legend of Zelda (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
4) 91905 - Mega Man (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 91749 - Final Fantasy 7 (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
6) 90364 - Sephiroth (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 89595 - Sephiroth (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 89189 - Mario (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 88469 - Crono (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
10) 86938 - Final Fantasy (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
Top 10 Lowest Individual Votes
1) 4686 - Adventure (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
2) 5257 - Ms. Pac-Man (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 5414 - Serious Sam (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
5) 8602 - Gabe Logan (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 8802 - AiAi (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 9559 - Donkey Kong (II) from 2004 Spring Contest
8) 11076 - Little Mac (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
9) 11145 - CATS (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 11292 - Pitfall Harry (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)
1) 71438 - Link (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 66434 - Crono (III) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 64713 - Cloud Strife (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 59865 - Sephiroth (VI) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 57078 - Tidus (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
6) 56258 - Halo (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
7) 55322 - Solid Snake (IV) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 54529 - Ganondorf (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 53716 - Crono (V) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 50457 - Donkey Kong (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)
1) 30662 - Strider Hiryu (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
2) 30711 - Pikachu (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 31160 - Kyo Kusanagi (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 31798 - Donkey Kong (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
5) 32301 - Serious Sam (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 32602 - Donkey Kong (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
7) 32607 - Pac-Man (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
8) 33160 - Duke Nukem (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
9) 33516 - Alucard (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 33602 - Sonic the Hedgehog (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 33/36 LoZ vs. Donkey Kong
1) 50816 - Max Payne vs. Dirk the Daring (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
2) 51889 - Pac-Man vs. Kyo Kusanagi (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 52419 - Bomberman vs. Kane (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 52618 - Donkey Kong vs. Bub (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
5) 52874 - Duke Nukem vs. Iori Yagami (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 53213 - Mario vs. Servbot (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
7) 53920 - Kyo Kusanagi vs. Abe (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
8) 54997 - Serious Sam vs. Mr. Driller (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
9) 55392 - Ryo Hazuki vs. Guybrush Threepwood (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 56361 - Tina Armstrong vs. Gordon Freeman (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
Top 10 Highest Individual Votes
1) 94086 - Cloud Strife (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 92998 - Link (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 92894 - Legend of Zelda (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
4) 91905 - Mega Man (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 91749 - Final Fantasy 7 (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
6) 90364 - Sephiroth (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 89595 - Sephiroth (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 89189 - Mario (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 88469 - Crono (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
10) 86938 - Final Fantasy (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
Top 10 Lowest Individual Votes
1) 4686 - Adventure (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
2) 5257 - Ms. Pac-Man (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 5414 - Serious Sam (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
5) 8602 - Gabe Logan (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 8802 - AiAi (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 9559 - Donkey Kong (II) from 2004 Spring Contest
8) 11076 - Little Mac (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
9) 11145 - CATS (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 11292 - Pitfall Harry (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)
1) 71438 - Link (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 66434 - Crono (III) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 64713 - Cloud Strife (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 59865 - Sephiroth (VI) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 57078 - Tidus (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
6) 56258 - Halo (I) from 2004 Spring Contest
7) 55322 - Solid Snake (IV) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 54529 - Ganondorf (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 53716 - Crono (V) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 50457 - Donkey Kong (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)
1) 30662 - Strider Hiryu (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
2) 30711 - Pikachu (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 31160 - Kyo Kusanagi (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 31798 - Donkey Kong (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
5) 32301 - Serious Sam (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 32602 - Donkey Kong (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
7) 32607 - Pac-Man (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
8) 33160 - Duke Nukem (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
9) 33516 - Alucard (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 33602 - Sonic the Hedgehog (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 33/36 LoZ vs. Donkey Kong
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:12:44 AM | Message Detail
Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)*
1) 99.1% - Link vs. AiAi (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 98.0% - Mario vs. Captain Olimar (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 96.4% - Link vs. Little Mac (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 95.9% - Mario vs. Servbot (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
5) 95.6% - Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Pitfall Harry (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 95.6% - Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 95.4% - Link vs. Fox McCloud (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 94.9% - Cloud Strife vs. CATS (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 94.2% - Donkey Kong vs. Bub (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 94.1% - Mega Man vs. Ms. Pac-Man (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)*
1) 6.0% - Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth (VI) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 12.8% - Link vs. Mario (VI) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 13.4% - Cloud Strife vs. Link (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
4) 14.5% - Mega Man vs. Solid Snake (IV) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 14.6% - Crono vs. Solid Snake (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 17.3% - Scorpion vs. Pac-Man (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
7) 21.7% - Sephiroth vs. Mega Man (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 24.2% - Magus vs. Ganondorf (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 28.8% - Alucard vs. Duke Nukem (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 30.6% - Link vs. Sephiroth (V) from 2002 Summer Contest
*2004 Spring Contest predictions haven’t been released yet
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 33/36 LoZ vs. Donkey Kong
1) 99.1% - Link vs. AiAi (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 98.0% - Mario vs. Captain Olimar (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
3) 96.4% - Link vs. Little Mac (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
4) 95.9% - Mario vs. Servbot (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
5) 95.6% - Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Pitfall Harry (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 95.6% - Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
7) 95.4% - Link vs. Fox McCloud (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 94.9% - Cloud Strife vs. CATS (I) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 94.2% - Donkey Kong vs. Bub (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 94.1% - Mega Man vs. Ms. Pac-Man (I) from 2002 Summer Contest
Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)*
1) 6.0% - Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth (VI) from 2003 Summer Contest
2) 12.8% - Link vs. Mario (VI) from 2002 Summer Contest
3) 13.4% - Cloud Strife vs. Link (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
4) 14.5% - Mega Man vs. Solid Snake (IV) from 2003 Summer Contest
5) 14.6% - Crono vs. Solid Snake (IV) from 2002 Summer Contest
6) 17.3% - Scorpion vs. Pac-Man (III) from 2002 Summer Contest
7) 21.7% - Sephiroth vs. Mega Man (V) from 2003 Summer Contest
8) 24.2% - Magus vs. Ganondorf (II) from 2003 Summer Contest
9) 28.8% - Alucard vs. Duke Nukem (II) from 2002 Summer Contest
10) 30.6% - Link vs. Sephiroth (V) from 2002 Summer Contest
*2004 Spring Contest predictions haven’t been released yet
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 33/36 LoZ vs. Donkey Kong
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:17:17 AM | Message Detail
Talk about a cold shower... I didn't expect Tetris to own Pong this badly. Still, it's no match for LoZ, right?
So Pong was below Galaga for a while... oh man, I didn't expect RCR to be below Galaga, but to see PONG so close to it is a real shocker to me.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
So Pong was below Galaga for a while... oh man, I didn't expect RCR to be below Galaga, but to see PONG so close to it is a real shocker to me.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
From: cyko
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:18:00 AM | Message Detail
Top 10 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)
1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda over Adventure
2) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda: LTTP over Gunstar Heroes
3) 75.28% - Final Fantasy over Pitfall
4) 74.08% - (ii) Legend of Zelda over Donkey Kong #
5) 72.62% - Legend of Zelda: OOT over Fallout 2
6) 71.26% - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2
7) 69.66% - Super Mario 64 over Nights *
8) 66.58% - Super Metroid over Phantasy Star 4
9) 64.60% - Super Mario Bros. 3 over Metal Gear *
10) 62.94% - Super Mario World over The Simpsons
Top 10 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)
1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda over Adventure
2) 78272 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP over Gunstar Heroes
3) 76348 - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2
4) 74682 - Final Fantasy over Pitfall
5) 69753 - Legend of Zelda: OOT over Fallout 2
6) 61229 - Super Mario World over The Simpsons
7) 59648 - Sonic 2 over Shining Force
8) 56834 - Super Mario 64 over Nights *
9) 56376 - Super Metroid over Phantasy Star 4
10) 54634 - (ii) Legend of Zelda over Donkey Kong #
Top 10 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)
1) 0.14% - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt
2) 0.34% - Starcraft over Halo
3) 1.20% - Kingdom Hearts over Soul Calibur #
4) 6.36% - Castlvania: SotN over Perfect Dark *
5) 12.32% - Metroid Prime over Half-Life #
6) 12.48% - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2
7) 13.44% - Super Smash Bros. Melee over Metal Gear Solid 2 #
8) 14.08% - Doom over Earthbound
9) 15.90% - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C *
10) 20.64% - Grand Theft Auto: Vice City over Star Wars: KOTOR @
Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)
1) 143 - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt
2) 373 - Starcraft over Halo
3) 1088 - Kingdom Hearts over Soul Calibur #
4) 4883 - Castlvania: SotN over Perfect Dark *
5) 9066 - Metroid Prime over Half-Life #
6) 10065 - Super Smash Bros. Melee over Metal Gear Solid 2 #
7) 11114 - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C *
8) 12076 - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2
9) 12164 - Doom over Earthbound
10) 18491 - Grand Theft Auto: Vice City over Star Wars: KOTOR @
Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)
1) 112889 - Halo vs. Starcraft
2) 107150 - Final Fantasy 7 vs. Suikoden 2
3) 99194 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall
4) 97580 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure
5) 97285 - Super Mario World vs. The Simpsons
6) 97126 - Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force
7) 97031 - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt
8) 96704 - Super Mario RPG vs. Steet Fighter 2
9) 96186 - Final Fantasy 3/6 vs. Mortal Kombat
10) 96053 - Legend of Zelda: OOT vs. Fallout 2
Top 10 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)
1) 65875 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance vs. Fire Emblem #
2) 69876 - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C *
3) 72743 - Metroid vs. Pac-Man *
4) 73642 - Metroid Prime vs. Half-Life #
5) 73752 - (ii) Legend of Zelda vs. Donkey Kong #
6) 74556 - Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metal Gear *
7) 74688 - Metal Gear Solid vs. Resident Evil *
8) 74923 - Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. Metal Gear Solid 2 #
9) 75583 - Goldeneye 007 vs. Panzer Dragoon Saga *
10) 75687 - Legend of Zelda: WW vs. Skies of Arcadia #
Top 10 Least Popular Polls without an Extra PotD (by vote totals)
1) 65875 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance vs. Fire Emblem #
2) 73642 - Metroid Prime vs. Half-Life #
3) 73752 - (ii) Legend of Zelda vs. Donkey Kong #
4) 74923 - Super Smash Bros. Melee over Metal Gear Solid 2 #
5) 75687 - Legend of Zelda: WW vs. Skies of Arcadia #
6) 77424 - Final Fantasy X xs. Shenmue #
7) 79796 - (ii) Final Fantasy vs. Contra #
8) 81045 - (ii) Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metroid #
9) 84501 - Tetris vs. Galaga
10) 84664 - Super Metroid vs. Phantasy Star 4
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Current Score: 37/40 (through Pong vs. Tetris) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
From: cyko
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:18:35 AM | Message Detail
Top 10 Highest Individual Votes
1) 92894 - Legend of Zelda
2) 91749 - Final Fantasy 7
3) 86938 - Final Fantasy
4) 86690 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP
5) 82903 - Legend of Zelda: OOT
6) 79257 - Super Mario World
7) 78387 - Sonic 2
8) 71697 - Chrono Trigger
9) 70520 - Super Metroid
10) 70294 - Final Fantasy 3/6
Top 10 Lowest Individual Votes
1) 4686 - Adventure
2) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes
3) 9559 - (ii) Donkey Kong #
4) 12256 - Pitfall
5) 12375 - Nights *
6) 13150 - Fallout 2
7) 13197 - Metal Gear *
8) 14144 - Phantasy Star 4
9) 14504 - Panzer Dragoon Saga *
10) 15401 - Suikoden 2
Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)
1) 56258 - Halo
2) 48444 - Duck Hunt
3) 44532 - Soul Calibur #
4) 42314 - Street Fighter 2
5) 37127 - Earthbound
6) 35930 - Perfect Dark
7) 35564 - Star Wars: KOTOR @
8) 35513 - Phantasy Star
9) 32429 - Metal Gear Solid 2 #
10) 32288 - Half-Life #
Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)
1) 40495 - Xenogears *
2) 40813 - Castlevania: SotN *
3) 41354 - Metroid Prime #
4) 42494 - Super Smash Bros. Melee #
5) 43716 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance #
6) 45620 - Kingdom Hearts #
7) 48587 - Donkey Kong
8) 49291 - Doom
9) 49837 - Metroid *
10) 52745 - Metal Gear Solid *
Top 10 Least Impressive Winners without an Extra PotD (by votes)
1) 41354 - Metroid Prime #
2) 42494 - Super Smash Bros. Melee #
3) 43716 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance #
4) 45620 - Kingdom Hearts #
5) 48587 - Donkey Kong
6) 49291 - Doom
7) 54055 - Grand Theft Auto: Vice City @
8) 54390 - Super Mario RPG
9) 55593 - Contra
10) 55895 - (ii) Final Fantasy #
Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)
1) still, no data yet..... tonight???!!........... maybe.......... =(
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5)
Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)
1) no data yet...... come on, pleeeaseee..........
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5)
* = shared PotD with GameRiot or ESPN or FFXI poll
# = matches after the home-page layout change
@ = messed up two day match after the layout change
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Current Score: 37/40 (through Pong vs. Tetris) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
From: cyko
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:28:32 AM | Message Detail
So Pong was below Galaga for a while... oh man, I didn't expect RCR
to be below Galaga, but to see PONG so close to it is a real shocker to
me.
i'm not surprised that Pong is about the same level as Galaga. but to admit that, i would have to admit that River City Ransom would've got CRUSHED by Galaga. and admitting that makes me want to cry because RCR really is an awesome game. =(
oh, and here's another reason to beleive that SMB3 will defeat Zelda 1. SMB3 got 63246 votes against Metroid while Zelda pulled in 64193 votes over DK. that means that SMB3 only got 947 fewer votes than Zelda did while fighting a MUCH tougher opponent. the difference in match vote totals doesn't come from Zelda's over-powering strength; it comes from DK's history of under-performance.
and from all of the results in this division so far, it looks like Contra was the fifth or sixth strongest game, which does make me happy. Contra was kinda underappreciated here and it really was one of the best games of the era.
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Current Score: 37/40 (through Pong vs. Tetris) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
i'm not surprised that Pong is about the same level as Galaga. but to admit that, i would have to admit that River City Ransom would've got CRUSHED by Galaga. and admitting that makes me want to cry because RCR really is an awesome game. =(
oh, and here's another reason to beleive that SMB3 will defeat Zelda 1. SMB3 got 63246 votes against Metroid while Zelda pulled in 64193 votes over DK. that means that SMB3 only got 947 fewer votes than Zelda did while fighting a MUCH tougher opponent. the difference in match vote totals doesn't come from Zelda's over-powering strength; it comes from DK's history of under-performance.
and from all of the results in this division so far, it looks like Contra was the fifth or sixth strongest game, which does make me happy. Contra was kinda underappreciated here and it really was one of the best games of the era.
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Current Score: 37/40 (through Pong vs. Tetris) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:35:39 AM | Message Detail
You're comparing a weekday poll to a week-end poll.
I always thought vote totals were irrelevant, and I've been proven right pretty much every time. Flashback to 2002: Cloud's first three matches absolutely slaughtered Mario's in terms of vote totals. PLUS, Mario totally messed up his first two matches in terms of percentage as well. Who came out on top? Mario.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
I always thought vote totals were irrelevant, and I've been proven right pretty much every time. Flashback to 2002: Cloud's first three matches absolutely slaughtered Mario's in terms of vote totals. PLUS, Mario totally messed up his first two matches in terms of percentage as well. Who came out on top? Mario.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 031/036 --- Matches: 29/34 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LoZ
From: cyko
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:38:50 AM | Message Detail
yeah, but everyone knows Mario cheated in that one. >_>
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Current Score: 37/40 (through Pong vs. Tetris) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
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Current Score: 37/40 (through Pong vs. Tetris) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:40:52 AM | Message Detail
And Cloud didn't?
Well, I already selected the games that would be in my pseudo-bracket, and it's now rather obvious where Pong is going to end up.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 033/038 --- Matches: 30/35 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Tetris
Well, I already selected the games that would be in my pseudo-bracket, and it's now rather obvious where Pong is going to end up.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 033/038 --- Matches: 30/35 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Tetris
From: SlangEdter41
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:41:09 AM | Message Detail
Moving on to the 16 bit division, tomorrow's match should be
interesting for Chrono Trigger's hopes of reaching the finals. I would
say CT needs to gain at least 64% against Mario RPG to keep that hope
alive. Anybody disagree with that figure? Maybe I am underestimating
Mario RPG.
I am guessing the SFF will once again favor Zelda in what should be a solid win for LttP against Super Metroid. Its sad really, I think Metroid games got hosed by the bracket. Both Prime and Super Metroid has to face ONE AND ONLY GAME in their division that each have absolutely no chance of beating, in the 2nd round! What a raw deal!
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
I am guessing the SFF will once again favor Zelda in what should be a solid win for LttP against Super Metroid. Its sad really, I think Metroid games got hosed by the bracket. Both Prime and Super Metroid has to face ONE AND ONLY GAME in their division that each have absolutely no chance of beating, in the 2nd round! What a raw deal!
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:42:47 AM | Message Detail
It'd need 64%... against SF2. I'd say it needs more around 59-60%. Of
course, if SMRPG scores more than that, then it could hint at the
"tightening" theory to hold true, in which case LttP would kill CT.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 033/038 --- Matches: 30/35 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Tetris
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 033/038 --- Matches: 30/35 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Tetris
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:44:27 AM | Message Detail
I am guessing the SFF will once again favor Zelda in what should be a solid win for LttP against Super Metroid.
I doubt it quite a bit... both are big names for Nintendo, what couldn't be said for the original Metroid and DK. Same goes for WW and Prime... a "what-you-see-is-what-you-get" deal.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 033/038 --- Matches: 30/35 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Tetris
I doubt it quite a bit... both are big names for Nintendo, what couldn't be said for the original Metroid and DK. Same goes for WW and Prime... a "what-you-see-is-what-you-get" deal.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 033/038 --- Matches: 30/35 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Tetris
From: SlangEdter41
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:47:38 AM | Message Detail
Well, assuming LttP = Chrono Trigger, for the sake of simplicity, don't you think Super Metroid has a better shot at CT?
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
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Contest Score: 38/38
Next Pick : Tetris
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:50:08 AM | Message Detail
No, because Metroid is just less popular than Zelda. You just need to know how well LttP ranks in the hearts of the Zelda fans.
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From: smitelf
| Posted: 5/9/2004 6:56:38 AM | Message Detail
It'd need 64%... against SF2. I'd say it needs more around 59-60%.
I'd say that's fair. If it were up against SF2 I'd say CT would need about 68% (FFIII got 73% against MK) but considering the special status of any match that pits Crono against Mario I'm going to expect Mario RPG to do a bit better than it would under normal circumstances, especially considering that Ceej is using character pics for this round. I'd say CT doesn't have to worry much about getting 60%, though.
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I'd say that's fair. If it were up against SF2 I'd say CT would need about 68% (FFIII got 73% against MK) but considering the special status of any match that pits Crono against Mario I'm going to expect Mario RPG to do a bit better than it would under normal circumstances, especially considering that Ceej is using character pics for this round. I'd say CT doesn't have to worry much about getting 60%, though.
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 7:21:54 AM | Message Detail
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #37 - (1) CHRONO TRIGGER vs. (8) SUPER MARIO RPG ***
Sales
CT sold 2 million copies in Japan to SMRPG's 1.5... I don't have sale numbers for America, but I guess it's safe to extrapolate.
- Advantage CT.
Franchises
We all know about the Mario/Crono saga, but Mario has one huge advantage... he's known everywhere. Sure, SMRPG didn't come out in Europe either, but at least they're more familiar with Mario than Crono, for the most part.
- Advantage SMRPG.
GameFAQs Status
Number of FAQs: CT
Number of reviews: CT
Average review score: CT
Board activity: CT
Oh my god, two avalanches of 10s! CT just got more of 'em... oh, and it beats SMRPG by a decent amount everywhere else, too.
- Advantage CT
Board Odds Project
PICKS (out of 102)
Chrono Trigger - 101
Also picked: Secret of Mana - 1
POINT VALUE
2. Chrono Trigger - 2623
34. Super Mario RPG - 57
Simply put, of all the games in the second round, SMRPG has the lowest point value of them all. Let's move on...
- Advantage CT.
Previous Rounds
SMRPG put up surprising numbers against SF2... but it's nothing that CT couldn't do. On the other side, I doubt SMRPG would've done any better against SoM, though CT's performance disappointed me.
- Advantage CT.
Summer Contests / Polls of the Day
Yes, Mario and Crono are about equal. But is SMRPG Mario's claim to fame? No (thank God).
- Advantage CT.
Intangibles
Tomorrow will be "the day Europe didn't care". BUT, as I said earlier, Europeans are at least familiar with Mario, and if they decide not to abstain, their vote will probably go SMRPG's way. In fact, don't be surprised to see the reverse of what happened with SF2: SMRPG starts out strong, then CT recovers during the day. It may not happen, but it could.
That right there is CT's biggest handicap, and that's why it will lose this category every single time.
- Advantage SMRPG.
Conclusion: Chrono Trigger desperately needs to pick up steam if it wants to reach the finals. If it fails to get a good portion of the vote, it won't make it out of its division, and if SMRPG comes within a few thousands (hey, it could happen), it's going to be fighting for its life as early as next round. One of the most obvious-yet-interesting matches in round 2, that's a given.
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Sales
CT sold 2 million copies in Japan to SMRPG's 1.5... I don't have sale numbers for America, but I guess it's safe to extrapolate.
- Advantage CT.
Franchises
We all know about the Mario/Crono saga, but Mario has one huge advantage... he's known everywhere. Sure, SMRPG didn't come out in Europe either, but at least they're more familiar with Mario than Crono, for the most part.
- Advantage SMRPG.
GameFAQs Status
Number of FAQs: CT
Number of reviews: CT
Average review score: CT
Board activity: CT
Oh my god, two avalanches of 10s! CT just got more of 'em... oh, and it beats SMRPG by a decent amount everywhere else, too.
- Advantage CT
Board Odds Project
PICKS (out of 102)
Chrono Trigger - 101
Also picked: Secret of Mana - 1
POINT VALUE
2. Chrono Trigger - 2623
34. Super Mario RPG - 57
Simply put, of all the games in the second round, SMRPG has the lowest point value of them all. Let's move on...
- Advantage CT.
Previous Rounds
SMRPG put up surprising numbers against SF2... but it's nothing that CT couldn't do. On the other side, I doubt SMRPG would've done any better against SoM, though CT's performance disappointed me.
- Advantage CT.
Summer Contests / Polls of the Day
Yes, Mario and Crono are about equal. But is SMRPG Mario's claim to fame? No (thank God).
- Advantage CT.
Intangibles
Tomorrow will be "the day Europe didn't care". BUT, as I said earlier, Europeans are at least familiar with Mario, and if they decide not to abstain, their vote will probably go SMRPG's way. In fact, don't be surprised to see the reverse of what happened with SF2: SMRPG starts out strong, then CT recovers during the day. It may not happen, but it could.
That right there is CT's biggest handicap, and that's why it will lose this category every single time.
- Advantage SMRPG.
Conclusion: Chrono Trigger desperately needs to pick up steam if it wants to reach the finals. If it fails to get a good portion of the vote, it won't make it out of its division, and if SMRPG comes within a few thousands (hey, it could happen), it's going to be fighting for its life as early as next round. One of the most obvious-yet-interesting matches in round 2, that's a given.
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From: SlangEdter41
| Posted: 5/9/2004 7:50:29 AM | Message Detail
^ I think CT will be tested severely next round, no matter what happens
tomorrow. Which 3rd round match will be closer remains to be seen, CT
vs SMW or LttP vs FF3.
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Next Pick : Tetris
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 7:51:13 AM | Message Detail
CT vs. SMW. Easily.
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From: Phediuk
| Posted: 5/9/2004 8:51:54 AM | Message Detail
Match #34 Review:
Woah. FF scores quite an underwhelming performance against Contra, and shows that it stands no chance against SMB3 next round.
Match #36 Current:
Best. Match pic. EVAR.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
Woah. FF scores quite an underwhelming performance against Contra, and shows that it stands no chance against SMB3 next round.
Match #36 Current:
Best. Match pic. EVAR.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: swirIdude
| Posted: 5/9/2004 10:12:46 AM | Message Detail
Could someone please explain how the extrapolated method works? (Or
whatever that method that determines how one game/character would do
against another is called)
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/9/2004 10:16:49 AM | Message Detail
I think LttP is more equal to OoT than it is CT actually. I have a
feeling that while OoT will be stronger, that LttP is definitely right
up there with it in strength...
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From: Heroic Mario
| Posted: 5/9/2004 10:17:21 AM | Message Detail
Oh and Pong has caught up a lot... 73% for Tetris now.
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From: cyko
| Posted: 5/9/2004 10:51:29 AM | Message Detail
Oh and Pong has caught up a lot... 73% for Tetris now.
yeah, what's up with Pong catching up so much during the day? almost seven percentage points.
cyko's Point of View
Match 37
(1) Chrono Trigger vs. (8) Super Mario RPG
welcome to Chrono vs. Mario - Part 2.1!!!
if you ask me, Chrono has got one tough road to the Final Four. Secret of Mana was no pushover. it was one of Square's biggest and best SNES RPGs. SFF may have been a factor, but you can only push that so far when a fourth of the division is made up of Square's SNES RPGs. either way, 80% against Secret of Mana wasn't that bad.
but now, Chrono gets the first of possibly THREE games starring his nemesis - Lavos....... er....... Mario. Super Mario RPG is a well-respected RPG here and it does feature Mario, but it didn't beat SF2 by that much. this match is a bit tough to gauge because of the similarities between the games. but if Chrono can put that much of a beatdown on Secret of Mana, then it should be able to take down another Square RPG without too much trouble, even if it does have Mario. SMRPG will do better than Secret of Mana because it has Mario, but this isn't Mario's greatest game - giving SMRPG not much of a chance.
prediction: Chrono Trigger with 66-70%
my bracket: Chrono Trigger
personal favorite: Chrono Trigger - these two games are both great, but CT's combos and New Game+ push it past SMRPG in my mind. but man, it was awesome to be able to play as Bowser.
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A WINNER of Trivia 12
yeah, what's up with Pong catching up so much during the day? almost seven percentage points.
cyko's Point of View
Match 37
(1) Chrono Trigger vs. (8) Super Mario RPG
welcome to Chrono vs. Mario - Part 2.1!!!
if you ask me, Chrono has got one tough road to the Final Four. Secret of Mana was no pushover. it was one of Square's biggest and best SNES RPGs. SFF may have been a factor, but you can only push that so far when a fourth of the division is made up of Square's SNES RPGs. either way, 80% against Secret of Mana wasn't that bad.
but now, Chrono gets the first of possibly THREE games starring his nemesis - Lavos....... er....... Mario. Super Mario RPG is a well-respected RPG here and it does feature Mario, but it didn't beat SF2 by that much. this match is a bit tough to gauge because of the similarities between the games. but if Chrono can put that much of a beatdown on Secret of Mana, then it should be able to take down another Square RPG without too much trouble, even if it does have Mario. SMRPG will do better than Secret of Mana because it has Mario, but this isn't Mario's greatest game - giving SMRPG not much of a chance.
prediction: Chrono Trigger with 66-70%
my bracket: Chrono Trigger
personal favorite: Chrono Trigger - these two games are both great, but CT's combos and New Game+ push it past SMRPG in my mind. but man, it was awesome to be able to play as Bowser.
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Current Score: 37/40 (through Pong vs. Tetris) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 5/9/2004 11:08:08 AM | Message Detail
CN, I gotta say this again, the reviews are just from NP reviewers.
They probably just said "play this game and give us a number" and that
was that. Theu could easily have their whole review staff play the game
once and the numebr they give sticks. They didn't go to outside
sources, so while I'd normally agree that the bigger the game the more
reviews it'd recieve I can't agree in this situation. If that were the
case the pro's top 30 list would look a lot more like the other two
lists and wouldn't give boosts to games liek Dragon Warrior, Final
Fantasy, Crystalis, Destiny of an Emperor, Nobunaga's Ambition, Romance
of the Three Kingdoms, and so many oter games whose genres didn't catch
on for years. Pro scores were justbased on the review crew's ratings of
a game, and no one outside of Nintendo would have any influence on
that. If sales were the means to judge how many of their reviews gave a
score Crytalis wouldn't make the list, it'd only get one reviewer. So
unless one rogue reviewer can give a game a 10 and it counts almost as
much as the 20 9's that SMB3 would recieve I'm going to bet they had
the whole staff give a score for every game they could, or the had the
staff make up a top 30 list of their own in the way the players did.
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From: creativename
| Posted: 5/9/2004 11:26:21 AM | Message Detail
I was not talking about Nintendo Power's reviewers at all, I was
talking in general. I was responding to your statement that reviews
don't relate to sales (or something like that, can't remember the exact
phrase).
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 5/9/2004 11:29:41 AM | Message Detail
Could someone please explain how the extrapolated method works? (Or
whatever that method that determines how one game/character would do
against another is called)
Simple enough.
Example: Final Fantasy vs. Phantasy Star
First, you take PS' score against Contra, and you divide it by 50. Why 50 and not Contra's percentage? Because a vote more for PS is a vote less for Contra, and visa versa. Anyway, 38.98 / 50 = 0.7796. Then, you multiply by the percentage Contra got against FF1: 0.7796 * 29.95 = 23.35. Hence, PS would get 23.35% against FF1.
But what if we were to pit Contra against Pitfall? Simple. We divide 50 by what Contra got against FF1: 50 / 29.95 = 1.67. Then we multiply Pitfall's score against the common opponent (FF1) by that factor: 12.36 * 1.67 = 20.63%. So, Pitfall would have gotten 20.63% of the vote against Contra.
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Simple enough.
Example: Final Fantasy vs. Phantasy Star
First, you take PS' score against Contra, and you divide it by 50. Why 50 and not Contra's percentage? Because a vote more for PS is a vote less for Contra, and visa versa. Anyway, 38.98 / 50 = 0.7796. Then, you multiply by the percentage Contra got against FF1: 0.7796 * 29.95 = 23.35. Hence, PS would get 23.35% against FF1.
But what if we were to pit Contra against Pitfall? Simple. We divide 50 by what Contra got against FF1: 50 / 29.95 = 1.67. Then we multiply Pitfall's score against the common opponent (FF1) by that factor: 12.36 * 1.67 = 20.63%. So, Pitfall would have gotten 20.63% of the vote against Contra.
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