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Don't **** with an SNK master, son.

What did u call me??? A ****knocker?

If I wanted to be technical I would say that Mario World and the SNES were in development since late 1989, released in late summer 1991. September I believe. So yah the Neo Geo you mentioned was released around the same time, so I will not argue your point. Sorry if I offended ya, but I think you, a fellow appreciate of the old school like myself, get the general idea of why I wrote what I did.

So then, fancy an Xbox Live Capcom vs SNK 2 matchup? I'll show you that you aint the only SNK master, "son"

Now let me go practice my Athena, Mai and Iori :)
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SCK24: 44/48 Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever
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Actually Mario World came out late 1989, in development since 87 or 88.
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Contest Score: 40/40
Next Pick : Chrono Trigger

*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #38 - (5) SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 2 vs. (4) SUPER MARIO WORLD ***

Sales

17 million copies. Only SMB3 did better... and no, it's not Sonic's sales.

- Advantage SMW.

Franchises

Well, it pretty much comes down to who won this epic war of the 90s... and there's no doubt about who it is. It's not Nintendo that's stuck in third-party status now, is it?

- Advantage SMW.

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: SMW
Number of reviews: SMW
Average review score: SMW
Board activity: SMW

Slight advantage for SMW with the board and the number of reviews, but where it truly shines is the number of FAQs and the review scores.

- Advantage SMW.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Super Mario World - 90
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - 12

POINT VALUE
15. Super Mario World - 310
21. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - 129

A fair amount of people have Sonic 2 winning... it is, indeed, an interesting upset prospect, and it would cause much more damage than Starcraft winning should it happen. However, not too many people see it beating Mario.

- Advantage SMW.

Previous Rounds

Sonic 2 got through the top searched Genesis game on the site with the same score as SMW beat a Simpsons arcade game. Dunno if the Simpsons got some help from the TV show... let's just call this a draw.

- TIE.

Summer Contests / Polls of the Day

In Summer Contests, Mario is second tier, and Sonic is third. And neither entry in this match is the series' favorite... yet Sonic's got snubbed because of the 1 game vs. 2 games argument, most likely. Anyway, this is really tough to call... but I'll go with SMW, if only because of SC positions.

- Advantage SMW.

Intangibles

Sonic vs. Mario. Never thought we'd get it one day. If the voters see this instead of a Sonic 2 vs. SMW poll, the result could be radically different from what we'd get in an indirect comparison... but who would it favor? No way to know.

- UNAVAILABLE.

Conclusion: Normally I'd really have something to say for such a match, but I think I got everything covered, except for the encounter with CT... we'll get there in time.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 034/040 --- Matches: 31/36 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: CT

SC positions?
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Odd, the topic didn`t move to the top when I posted in it.
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Were they ever?

SMW certainly can put up quite a fight against CT when the match happens.

I was under the impression that a CT vs. some other game division final was a given from the start.

That`s pretty much how it was always thought, though SMW could have always upsetted CT considering that it is a Mario game that many Mario fans like.

This match just makes it more clear that LttP isn't going to beat it (although I'm still not entirely convinced that LttP has its match against FFVI in the bag, either).

I`m actually still thinking LttP is going to win the match despite the 69.5% its getting right now. Though, this did put CT right back into it with a strong performance right here. Looks like its going to be one great division final. =)
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Actually Mario World came out late 1989, in development since 87 or 88.

Very, very late 1989. In fact, the last day of December but regardless it can be called 1990 considering it virtually almost did hit 1990 and thats when Japan received the title. Technically though 1989, but hey its perfectly fine to say 1990. =P
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

^ So you changed your mind huh.
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Contest Score: 40/40
Next Pick : Chrono Trigger

Yes, I have changed for a while and with my new theory on LttP =< OoT I have a feeling LttP has it but we`ll have to see how well LttP does in the next match. I`m predicting 59.89% myself.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Super Mario World is definitely more popular than Mario RPG. It's the #2 game in the series, after all. After looking at today's performance by CT, it'll be hard pressed to pull the upset, but let's not be too hasty. I'll wait and see how it does against Sonic 2 first.
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Spring Contest 2004: 38/40
Today: (1)Chrono Trigger over (8)Super Mario RPG

Equal or less than? That has always been the case! Well, I know I am being picky with the notation. I think you meant LttP ~ OoT, "approximately" IIRC from discrete structures class.
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Contest Score: 40/40
Next Pick : Chrono Trigger

I believe Mario64 is #2 when faced with other Mario games. But SMW may be more popular than Mario64 when its just two of them.
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Contest Score: 40/40
Next Pick : Chrono Trigger

OoT was always considered to be quite a distance from other Zelda games, but I believe LttP is right, right there next to it in strength. This hasn`t always been the case, and this might not even prove true but its what I believe...

I have always known that LttP was always second in line after OoT. =)
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

SMW is the second strongest in the series, no doubt about that.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

mario 64 is #3?
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Yes.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Both were pretty much equal in the last PotD, with a slight advantage for SM64.

SC positions?

Summer Contest. I thought that was obvious, but I guess not.

And wow, is the daytime vote helping Mario today. I wonder if it'll happen tomorrow... after all, Sonic is the undisputed champion of the daytime vote.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 034/040 --- Matches: 31/36 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: CT

Chrono Trigger now at 67.98%...
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Chrono Trigger now at 67.18%, looks like it`ll fall below 67%.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

cyko's Point of View

Match 38

(4) Super Mario World vs. (5) Sonic the Hedgehog 2

didn't this match already happen? oh yeah, that's right. it happened back in the early Nineties. and who won? that's right; Nintendo and Super Mario World won by a mile - in sales, in fans, and in reveiwers opinions.

just to compare - SMB3 faced Sonic in the first round of Gamespy's contest. granted, SMW isn't quite as high-rated and liked as SMB3, but it is close. and Sonic 2 is a bit higher rated than Sonic 1. but still, Mario beat Sonic 75% to 25% over there - a royal butt-kicking.

Slowflake was right about one thing - this match's final result depends on how many people view this as SONIC VS. MARIO and how many honesly look at it as SONIC 2 VS. SUPER MARIO WORLD. i believe that neither character represents their respective games well. Mario's games rely on gameplay and innovation while Sonic's games rely on speed, attitude, and coolness. therefore, Mario's games have the advantage. and so far, it seems that people haven't cared about the characters too much; most people have been honesly picking the best GAME. that explains why the Summer Contest results haven't matched up exactly with this contest's results.

if this really was Sonic vs. Mario, i believe we would have a closer match on our hands, since we've seen that Mario as a character doesn't perform quite as well as his games. Sonic, on the other hand, is in the same boat as Megaman; where both are cool, respected characters that come from a series of good games with no single game that really sticks out as phenomenal. and Sonic 2 isn't even Sonic's best game; at least according to the board and most reveiwers. SMW isn't Mario's best game ever, but it's still considered a phenomenal game close to SMB3's level.

the more i think about it, i will be more surprised to see a real close match tomorrow than i will be if Mario double's Sonic's vote total. but this match will not be as close as SONIC VS. MARIO would be.


prediction: Super Mario World with 57-60%

my bracket: Super Mario World

personal favorite: Super Mario World - ok, i admit it. i used to be a huge Nintendo fanboy. and it all started in my middle school cafeteria, where my classmates and i would constantly argue about which was better between SNES and Genesis. i was one of the most vocal SNES supporters and hated Sonic and all things Sega. now i'm more open-minded and even willing to give Sonic credit for having some okay games. but Sonic 2 pales in comparison to the masterpiece that is called Super Mario World.

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A WINNER of Trivia 12

So has the site's new look and the PotD position affected the vote totals? The recent match vote counts seem rather low...
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Supporting Super Smash Brothers Melee for the 2004 Spring Contest going ALL THE WAY.
It's tankalicous, like DK.

Looks like we`ll see CT fall under 67%.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Holy crap, the day vote HATES CT. Remember, Crono lost his 1000-vote lead to Mario in a spectacular fashion when the kiddies woke up before whatever happened kicked in so that Crono would keep up.

Even if CT winds up facing SMW and takes a semi-decent lead in the night, do not count SMW out yet. It will need a very comfortable lead to avoid the inevitable.

But for now, it looks like it won't even be able to double SMRPG... a scenario that would've been unthinkable this morning.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 034/040 --- Matches: 31/36 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: CT

Agreed. SMW definitely still has the ability to do something.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Hm... just thought of something. Since CT hasn't been released in Europe either, maybe the European factor is not the reason why SF2 led during the night... because SMRPG is pretty much following the same pattern, minus 20-25 percentage points. But CT's a whole different story than SF2... for SMRPG to do the same thing to in is downright weird.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 034/040 --- Matches: 31/36 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: CT

You guys sure change opinion fast! In less than 24 hours:

11pm - CT will dissapoint against Mario RPG and lose to LTTP in the finals.

05am - CT is easily the favorite to reach the finals!

09pm - CT may have trouble with SMW...

Oh well, I guess its called adjusting...
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Contest Score: 40/40
Next Pick : Chrono Trigger

66.97% right now for CT, just went under 67%.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

This match hasn`t made me change my opinion Slang. ;)
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Heheh, I know. I am just wondering if this is a sign of diligent adjustments being made or maybe mass panic caused by 1-2% change.
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Contest Score: 40/40
Next Pick : Chrono Trigger

^ I love how people jump to conclusions, just as when Mario3 beat Metroid by a large margin. Give LttP a chance to counter.

Not jumping to conclusions at all. I have been pretty skeptical about LttP from the start. I still think this match shows that CT will beat it. The only thing that could really convince me otherwise would be a sound defeat of FFVI. I’m not jumping to conclusions, I’m just biased against the Zelda series in general despite my dislike of Chrono Trigger :) get your facts straight.

That`s pretty much how it was always thought, though SMW could have always upsetted CT considering that it is a Mario game that many Mario fans like.

Nah. Much as I love SMW (my favorite Mario game, barring Super Mario Kart) nothing short of SMB3 can touch CT from that franchise. CT is a lock for the division finals.

11pm - CT will dissapoint against Mario RPG and lose to LTTP in the finals.

05am - CT is easily the favorite to reach the finals!

09pm - CT may have trouble with SMW...

Hehe, my opinion hasn’t changed. CT is still performing admirably and should still be the favorite to win its division. LttP has not yet impressed me and will have no opportunity to until the next round considering its opponent in round 2 – a victory against a fellow but lesser Nintendo franchise is unlikely to prove much regardless of percentage. I had thought it might be an opportunity to test LttP against a real opponent but, the more I think about it, the more I believe the true power of LttP will not be readable until its inevitable bout with Final Fantasy VI.
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Current Sp2K4 Score: 39/40, Next Winner: Chrono Trigger

Pretty much, depending how well one game does as opposed to the other change have many people switching what they previously though. Case and point, SMB3 was expected to have the division, LoZ gets 8% more and it goes back to being a toss-up. Today, CT is looking great and now its right back to being threatened by SMW. So, yeah, people change what they thought based on performance - which changed a lot today - but thats perfectly natural. Though the switching can sometimes be done a little to much.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Nah. Much as I love SMW (my favorite Mario game, barring Super Mario Kart) nothing short of SMB3 can touch CT from that franchise. CT is a lock for the division finals.

Judging from SMRPG getting CT down to around the 66.9% area, and it really not even being close to favorite in the Mario series, SMW still has quite the chance at upsetting though its still definitely in CT`s hands for the match. Under 60% for CT will definitely happen during the match, and if the day vote is as biased toward the Mario game as it is today CT could be in for a scare...
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

To be honest, some of these changes are a little spontaneous... though what comes generally out of this match is that CT is right back in against LttP, but it's not the favorite it would have been had it kept up the pace it set last night, and CT/LttP will most likely be for a spot in the finals.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 034/040 --- Matches: 31/36 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: CT

^ Yeah, like a 3% drop causing people to switch from "CT is a lock for the final four!!one!" to "OMFG SMW will winzorz!"

Yes, I'm exaggerating... :)
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Current Sp2K4 Score: 39/40, Next Winner: Chrono Trigger

Well, for LttP a good 60% victory would do wonders for its strength even if its a fellow Nintendo games its still a strong one.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

CT just keeps on dropping... 66.89%...
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

2nd Strongest Zelda vs Strongest Metroid? Considering Link's 62% vs Samus, I'd say 58-60% should be about right. Anything significantly above 62%... Zelda may just sweep the contest.
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Contest Score: 40/40
Next Pick : Chrono Trigger

CT has fallen 8% since the start of the match. That's a substantial amount. And CT is still falling. Maybe if it falls another 6% SMRPG can "clutch" the last 10% and take the win... Maybe not.
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Anyone want to take a guess on what CT`s percentage will end up being?
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

Well, this "freefall" has to slow down during some point, and maybe even reversed. I don't think CT will dip below 66%.
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Contest Score: 40/40
Next Pick : Chrono Trigger

Sweet, this means I`ll have the closest prediction in the Analysis Crew again.
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It should settle before long... though its still falling a good .02-.04% every few minutes.
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Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End
It is ironic that the last one in the line has the potential to become the Hero of legend.

my benchmark was 65, and after i thought all day that ct had cleared it easily, i was starting to wonder...but it will still end up with 66+ no matter what. not bad at all.

Either way, I`m not convinced that this means the end for CT. LTTP is the favorite at this point, but CT can still win that match.
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Go SMRPG!
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*thinks of something to discuss*
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GG Topic.
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Super Mario World is going to scare the crap out of CT, but still lose. Sonic 2 will do the same to SMW.
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