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| From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/28/2004 5:36:09 AM | Message Detail |
| My
bracket is starting to look bad. Thought all along this division was
toughest to pick, seems right so far. I think KH will get more of the
day vote though. Soul Calibur 2 beating Kingdom Hearts, I can understand that (I'd still vote KH), but not SC. Guess some people have no taste. --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13829073 22/25 Next: KH |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 5:38:55 AM | Message Detail |
| Well, I guess you have a point about the franchise vote. Looks like the various challenges across the board, save for the Prophet, are going to be a train wreck, especially if SC wins. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:03:11 AM | Message Detail |
| Wow. I know I'm walking with the dinosaurs but Starcraft won? I'd given up hope when I went to bed last night. Sing a happy happy happy happy happy happy song Sing a happy happy happy happy happy happy song That was a great match...too bad I missed most of it. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 24/25, Next Winner: Kingdom Hearts |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:06:35 AM | Message Detail |
| Wow,
and for another shocker, Kingdom Hearts is losing? What the ****? I
knew this division would be unpredictable but Kingdom Hearts, A SQUARE
RPG with Final Fantasy cameos up the ying yang, is losing to A
DREAMCAST FIGHTING GAME. This does not compute. This does not compute. Even if KH does come back with the morning/afternoon vote (which I'm sure it will), this means Starcraft might have a serious chance at victory in Round 2 when most of us would have laughed before and told them they were crazy. Awesome. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 24/25, Next Winner: Kingdom Hearts |
| From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:07:00 AM | Message Detail |
| Looks like the various challenges across the board, save for the Prophet, are going to be a train wreck, especially if SC wins. Heh, yeah. The Oracle consensus is going to be somewhere around 65% for KH, so it's going to be a mess even if KH just barely squeaks it out. I think two people picked SC... |
| From: torey luvullo | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:15:16 AM | Message Detail |
| you missed some fun smitelf. |
| From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:17:42 AM | Message Detail |
| Yep,
the Betting challenge is going to be interesting if Soul Calibur wins.
Think most people would be below ~1000. Quite a few anyway. Just as well I got rid of the bet everything rule. I was going to reintroduce it for Rd 2, allowing people to bet the lot. Might leave it to Rd 3 though if the totals are close. --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13829073 22/25 Next: KH |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:21:09 AM | Message Detail |
| Hey, anyone have the guru challenge standings (or a way to acquire them)? --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 24/25, Next Winner: Kingdom Hearts |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:46:11 AM | Message Detail |
| Well here we go kiddies :) Time for... Steve Illumina Speaks Thats right, the infamous yet humorous commentary is back, to go with all the rest of us here in this, the greatest of threads, the most worthy of postings on this fanboy dominated board. And so it continues, with the first of several after 2 days of high drama back to back we need some relaxation matches in the "Modern Era" Division. Match XXVII (5)Zelda: Wind Waker vs (12)Skies of Arcadia Steve's Prediction: Zelda by 78% Steve's Bracket: Zelda Newbie's Pick: Cel Shading! Upset Chances: Sorry, please try again. Comments: After two days of drama not seen since Crono vs Mario II, we have some easy to call one sided tuneups...6 of them in a row infact to finish the first round...No blowouts mind you...just 6 easy points. Beginning with Wind Waker. Ah...the wind...it is blowing...."yep it sure is" says young elfen boy Link as he sails his vessel across the seas, seeing the flying pirate ships above. "Must be them Arcadian fellas'" the soft spoken elf thinks to himself as he prepares to dust off the Ocarina and play a few notes. Sitting next to his domesticated Dodongo, he presses his lips to the instrument and begins to blow the melancholy song... "This day i sail...the pirates wail...as raindrops fall...so too Skies shall..." Meanwhile, riding high in the skies above, the pirate Vyse spits over the side, hoping to catch the sails of Link's vessel with the tobacco laden juice...a bitter taste in his mouth, for as fearless a buccaneer as he may be, he knows the inevitable defeat is in his sights..."Aye!" Probable Results: This ho-hum match will go the way of the Wind...but not in the blowout vein as the last 3 Zelda's achieved. Wont top 80%...Skies has a loyal cult following, but not too loyal or large... Steve's Moments: Wind Waker: Still have yet to finish this gem... Skies: Missed it on DC, got it on the Cube...but here again, still have yet to finish this game! --- SC2K4: 21/25! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/28/2004 8:45:16 AM | Message Detail |
| "Guess some people have no taste." Yes, and you are that person. As a fighting game SC is supperior to SC2. All that SC2 has is extra bells ans whistles to coverup for the fact that the fighting system isn't as good as the one they used for SC. Smitelf - The Dreamcast is the most kickass system ever, and Soul Calibur was the headliner for it. Plus the arcade machines had a little bit of popularity after the DC version was released. <rant>I am abolutly pained to say this, however... I originally had SC beating KH. I changed it, it didn't make sense to have Soul Calibur winning, or so I thought after listening to the board. KH still has a long ass time to turn things around, but the last game that had all that time to turn it around still lost in the end, didn't it. Ceej is friggin' cracked, putting Halo as a 1 seed. I knew that Starcraft could win, but when you make something a 1 seed you are saying "hey, this thing has a huge advantage, I wouldn't bet against it if I were you!". Basically, however, if KH loses today I'm sure that I and many others are going to be out of the running for prizes for sure.</rant> Oh, and I wanna see the guru standings too! --- If all Christians acted like Christ, the whole world would be Christian. - Gandhi And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 9:36:39 AM | Message Detail |
| BULL****! The homepage...aargh, my eyes!! Tell me this isn't real! Please... Future vote totals are going to collapse if it stays like this. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/28/2004 9:40:14 AM | Message Detail |
| Yeah, I think they will as well. Tis suckiness. --- If all Christians acted like Christ, the whole world would be Christian. - Gandhi And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 9:51:49 AM | Message Detail |
| We'll see if it's the location of the poll or the fact that there was another one that makes the vote counts change. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 10:00:19 AM | Message Detail |
| Keep
in mind that this might affect site traffic significantly too...I
actually don't think it will hurt it too much, because the content is
the same, only the presentation is different; but I'd be very surprised
if this somehow had a positive effect on traffic. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/28/2004 10:01:03 AM | Message Detail |
| It has a negative effect on my breakfast... --- If all Christians acted like Christ, the whole world would be Christian. - Gandhi And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/28/2004 10:12:09 AM | Message Detail |
| The homepage! My eyes! Get it out! GET IT OUT! I agree with whoever said first that this will have a negative impact on vote totals. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 24/25, Next Winner: Kingdom Hearts |
| From: Starion | Posted: 4/28/2004 10:18:29 AM | Message Detail |
| I'm
trying to be a little more positive here. Anyone know the benefits of
having using CSS for webpages? If I can personally alter how the
homepage looks, then the whole change wouldn't be too bad. --- Sp2004 Score:22/25 Today's Pick: KH Nominate Death for the 2004 Character Contest |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 10:25:13 AM | Message Detail |
| *** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #27 - (5) LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER vs. (12) SKIES OF ARCADIA *** Sales We don't need actual numbers to figure this one out. SoA may be good and all, but it didn't receive anywhere near the attention WW got. That, despite being on two consoles to WW's one. - Advantage WIND WAKER. Franchises From what I can tell from the results of today's match, I totally placed the last one wrong. Still, think it's going to fit like a charm here: POWER OVERWHELMING! - Advantage WIND WAKER. GameFAQs Status Number of FAQs: Wind Waker Number of reviews: Wind Waker Average review score: Wind Waker Board activity: SoA for topics, Wind Waker for posts Wow, an RPG losing everywhere but in the number of topics... that's rare. SoAL owns the WW all alone in the number of topics, but even putting the Dreamcast board with it it can't match WW's post count. - Advantage WIND WAKER. Board Odds Project PICKS (out of 102) Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 101 Skies of Arcadia - 1 POINT VALUE 8. Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 619 48. Skies of Arcadia - 7 Yep, the guy who had SoA winning carried it all the way to the division finals. And I'm well aware that if/when Soul Calibur wins, the BOP will be in a two-day slump after a 24-day perfection. 92-10 for KH it was, and it's still headed towards a first round loss, unless the mid-afternoon vote can provoke a miracle. But come on. It's 101-1 for Pete's sake! WW is the weakest of the projected Elite 8, and tied with FF6 which is outside of it, but for a reason... it's facing Metroid Prime, by far the strongest projected second round loser, really early. - Advantage WIND WAKER. Summer Contests / Polls of the Day Looks as though PotDs are really meaningless for spring matches as well... *points to today's match* BUT, Link nearly repeated last year with nothing but WW pics all the way (more on cel-shading later), save for the once-anticipated match with Magus. Vyse lost to Donkey Kong and did worse than Bub in the process. And a GotY award over the yearly Final Fantasy is worth gloating about. - Advantage WIND WAKER. Intangibles I swear, the Metroid Prime faithful must live somewhere between Prime's release and WW's own, back when everyone saw MP was by far better than expected (it was thought to ruin the series before that) and that cel-shading sucked. Turns out the cel-shading was masterfully done (much better than what we saw in the match pic against Mario at any rate), and the complaints shifted to issues like the sailing and the low difficulty. Granted, it would have needed a Water/Shadow Temple-like level in terms of difficulty. Anyway, these complaints draw much less hate towards the game than the "atrocity" cel-shading was going to be. People aren't seeing Wind Waker coming. It could surprise... and maybe even complete an all-Zelda Final 4. In all fairness though, Prime has a chance. That is, if it wasn't for reasons that will be elaborated on when we get to that match #46. But I think WW could be the upset special so many thought of when they had KH or VC advancing to the division finals, or even Final 4. But this isn't Metroid Prime, this is Skies of Arcadia. Same goes here. WW could end up blowing out SoA better than expected. Not unlike what LoZ and LttP did. - Advantage WIND WAKER. Conclusion: Hopefully WW will restore this board to its original state, i.e. huge blowouts where people cry about the obvious loser, well, losing. But if it ends up being close as well, watch out, Shenmue's shooting for the Final 4. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/28/2004 10:31:39 AM | Message Detail |
| I'm
trying to be a little more positive here. Anyone know the benefits of
having using CSS for webpages? If I can personally alter how the
homepage looks, then the whole change wouldn't be too bad. If we get an option to revert to the classic look then I couldn't care less how fugly Ceej wants the new site to look. Then again, there's still the casual voters who, I predict, will be extremely turned off by the new layout and go elsewhere for their FAQs (not to mention that the Poll of the Day is lower...again). I'm not just saying that because I like the old look. The new look is completely unprofessional in appearance; it looks like something my little brother could cook up. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 24/25, Next Winner: Kingdom Hearts |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/28/2004 10:48:22 AM | Message Detail |
| Personally
I think this layout is a vast improvement. The site was junky in
appearance and amateur looking previously. This modernization is long
overdue. I look forward to how the Boards will look... All it needs now is a square shaped section on the bottom with my picture and "Steve Illumina Speaks" on it, a gaming commentary for all the site visitors to read and enjoy... Think I'll email Ceej about that...I know he loves my work.... --- SC2K4: 21/25! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 10:52:08 AM | Message Detail |
| The site was junky in appearance and amateur looking previously. Yes it was. The old layout wasn't very attractive. This modernization is long overdue. A modernization perhaps, but certainly not this modernization. This is just horrid. And everything is in the wrong place. Before, the organization of where stuff was was very nice and effective; now, it's ineffectual. For instance, the site is all GameSpot'D now, yet they move the GameSpot gaming news headlines down to the corner? WTF? The organization is just all wrong. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: JookySeaCaptain | Posted: 4/28/2004 11:02:17 AM | Message Detail |
| http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v180/TheUncleBob/spc2k426.jpg I've added the individual votes for each of the games in each matchup, bolded the winners of each matchup and also bolded the highs and lows for some catagories. Margin # - This column is the number of votes between the winner and the loser of this matchup Margin % - This column is the percentage between the winner and loser Total - The total column is, of course, the total number of votes that match received. # over old AVG - This column shows the number of votes this match had vs. the average number of votes for all previous matches. It the number is negative, then it's in ()'s. % of old AVG - This column shows the percent of votes that this match had vs. the average number of votes for all previous matches New AVG - This column figures a new average adding in the votes from the current match (current match is the match in that row, not the match going on here at the site). % of new AVG - This column shows the % of votes that this match has had vs the new average. # over lowest and # number over highest shows the amount of votes from the current match in comparison to match with the lowest amount of votes and the match with the highest amount of votes. Anything else I should add that anyone might be interested in? --- You are huge! That means you have huge guts! Rip and tear! Ohh, here it comes! Here comes the night train! theunclebob@hotmail.com - 618.382.2860 |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/28/2004 11:02:54 AM | Message Detail |
| Yes it was. The old layout wasn't very attractive. But it was professional. It was down to business and efficient and it didn't look like a random free message board my ten-year-old brother would cook up in a matter of minutes. That's how junky this new look is, IMO. It's not modern, it's trashy. It's the tiny garment of a prostitute still carrying the crusty stains of CNET's violation. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 24/25, Next Winner: Kingdom Hearts |
| From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/28/2004 11:59:50 AM | Message Detail |
| And
I'm well aware that if/when Soul Calibur wins, the BOP will be in a
two-day slump after a 24-day perfection. 92-10 for KH it was, and it's
still headed towards a first round loss, unless the mid-afternoon vote
can provoke a miracle. Anyone know whether any of those 10 will be perfect if Soul Calibur holds on? I'm sure I contributed to that, and I'm a long way from perfect... --- Jon Thomson - 21/25 - today: Soul Calibur - tomorrow: Zelda |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:01:40 PM | Message Detail |
| I see you have an appatite for destruction. Anyway, the only thing I can possibly think of here is Soul Calibur 2`s success. But even if KH loses, I won`t mind much. I got the one match I was dying to see, and everything else is pretty much going to take a back seat. Though I have new predictions on how the rest of this bracket will shape up: Wind Waker vs Skies of Arcadia - despite battle.net`s attempts to take down Kingdom Hearts and give themselves a better match, they will not be able to do so here, though WW might only be able to win with 60% Metroid Prime vs Half-Life - Thanks to the PC script kiddies and the fact that Half-Life is both a better FPS featuring a better character than Samus, it should walk away with this thing. FFTA vs Fire Emblem - Recent hits = good thing. FFX vs Shenume - .... Vice City vs KOTOR - It`s official that anti-anti-anti-fanboy votes rule this contest. KOTOR wins. SSBM vs MGS2 - Like it would surprise you? Round the Dos Starcraft vs Soul Calibur Wind Waker vs Half-Life Fire Emblem vs FFX KOTOR vs MGS2 Manage a Trois Starcraft vs Half-Life Fire Emblem vs MGS2 And in the divisional final between the 15/16 seeds, Metal Gear Solid 2 just barely ekes out Starcraft in a battle of nukes vs cardboard boxes. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:16:56 PM | Message Detail |
| Slowflake, have you ever played Starcraft? --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:16:57 PM | Message Detail |
| It's not modern, it's trashy. It's the tiny garment of a prostitute still carrying the crusty stains of CNET's violation. Hahah good one girl! If I agreed with you, I would sig that for sure! But I am sure someone else will... Again, very nice! --- SC2K4: 21/25! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:18:08 PM | Message Detail |
| Nope. I have no idea what these catchphrases mean, but they sound great. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: nifboy | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:40:33 PM | Message Detail |
| I
remember this joke being made before when the BOP was tallying votes,
but it was passed off as something that would never happen. I think SC is going to win in round two. *gets pelted with tomatoes* --- "We seek as much data - raw facts, direct experience - as we can, and then we make up our own minds." - J. Moore |
| From: redline15 | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:43:43 PM | Message Detail |
| ...damn it all. i had kingdom hearts going to the division finals. i knew my bracket was doomed, but i didn't want confirmation this quickly... i've heard kingdom hearts was the reason for cloud and sephiroth winning last year's summer contest. what do these results do for those theories...? --- signature (n.): a random bit of gibberish that no one ever reads. |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:44:41 PM | Message Detail |
| To think that I briefly had KH winning the division. My, how times change. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:50:27 PM | Message Detail |
| I
discussed the KH/SC battle with friends for ages...Definitely the most
shaky of my first round picks. And I'm 19/25, far from perfect. I was
the only one (of my friends) to pick SC. Now I'm glad I did, although
this thing is far from over. --- Current points: 19/25; Current Vote: SoulCalibur Predicted Winner: FFVII; Want to Win: LttP, CT, OoT, SMB3, in that order |
| From: metroid composite | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:54:05 PM | Message Detail |
| And
in the divisional final between the 15/16 seeds, Metal Gear Solid 2
just barely ekes out Starcraft in a battle of nukes vs cardboard boxes. XD --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/28/2004 1:47:38 PM | Message Detail |
| i've heard kingdom hearts was the reason for cloud and sephiroth winning last year's summer contest. what do these results do for those theories...? These results put this theory right where it belongs...in the trash. Glad I never bought into that lame-o theory. Better off buying into the fact KH is not as appreciated as I and others thought... Cursed fanboys, do not fail me...bring me victory! <sighs> --- SC2K4: 21/25! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: BigCow | Posted: 4/28/2004 1:48:33 PM | Message Detail |
| A copy from my other topic: This contest has had 5 upsets so far, sc2k3 had 8 first round, sc2k2 had 5. For SP2K4: Contra(12) beating Phantasy Star(5) Doom(10) beating Earthbound(7) Xenogears(9) beating Pokemon(8) Castlevania SOTN(11) beating Perfect Dark (6) Starcraft(16) beating Halo(1) Soul Calibur beating kingdom hearts would NOT be an upset, according to seeding. Kingdom hearts winning would be however. SC2k3 had two 9 seeds win first round, Fox and Shadow, two 10 seeds win, Max Payne and Zelda, an 11 seed win, Aeris, two 12 seeds win, Ganondorf and Kefka, and a 13 seed, Magus. Two of those made it to the sweet 16, Magus and Aeris. That's eight upsets, we're behind schedule. SC2K2 had 5 first round upsets by the way, only one of which made it to the sweet 16, Aeris again. --- The Insane A-Team: Trivia XII team Gamefaqs Fanfic Project Archive: http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~newheims/ffproj.htm |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 2:12:24 PM | Message Detail |
| i've heard kingdom hearts was the reason for cloud and sephiroth winning last year's summer contest. what do these results do for those theories...? The same thing as the relation between Lone Starr and Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing. These results put this theory right where it belongs...in the trash. Glad I never bought into that lame-o theory. <rolls eyes> Yeah, OK. This "theory" was accepted looong ago. The results of Kingdom Hearts factor are so self-evident it's pointless to even discuss it. Let it go. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 2:14:38 PM | Message Detail |
| Indeed. Why Cloud, Sephiroth, Aeris, Squall, Tidus and no one else save Alucard who had a new game too? --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: Seijun | Posted: 4/28/2004 2:15:03 PM | Message Detail |
These results put this theory right where it belongs...in the trash. Glad I never bought into that lame-o theory. Better off buying into the fact KH is not as appreciated as I and others thought... No, not really. Contest-wise, I think KH simply works better as a catalyst for other games than it does on its own. Sort of like The Wizard and Mario 3. --- The last thing I see in my lifetime is that fixed smile crawling out of the television, as my brain explodes into tiny, sobbing pieces. -Videogame Recaps |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/28/2004 2:15:56 PM | Message Detail |
| StarCraft`s chances look a lot better than before... =) --- Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End You called down the thunder... now reap the whirlwind. |
| From: Haste2 | Posted: 4/28/2004 2:30:10 PM | Message Detail |
| Sorry, I will be rambling a bit, but there's a lot I want to say. I am very stunned by this match. I didn't completely dismiss Soul Calibur's chances in the past, at least... Most of the massive upsets haven't been so close, but this is the first of those. The thing that really shocks me is this: SFII can't beat SMRPG, yet KH struggles with Soul Calibur. There are way more SC fans than I thought... Also, this is the third 50/50 match we've had so far. The 2002 contest had non, and the 2003 contest had two, but those weren't as close as the three this year. In fact, 3 or 4 matches that are 55/45 are closer happened to be 50/50. Could it just be chance, or a sign of...worse cheating than ever? X_X Think about how matches in the later rounds could go...sheesh. I'm still wondering if there will be any Round 1 matches that will have under a 42% prediction rate. Think about this... Wario vs. Shadow had a prediction of of 42% despite Shadow taking it with 65%. If Shadow's percentage of win was directly proportional to the bracket predictors, that would mean if Shadow was only popular enough to win with 51%, only 33% of the brackets would've had Shadow win. Of course, going by recursive values and stuff, Shadow would've been predicted to win by 27% of the brackets. Since some of the huge upsets have been narrow victories, I think it's much more possible that there could be a Round 1 match pcked correctly by less than 42% of everyone. I know I'm way late, but...were there any Squall vs. Luigi-type upsets in the Summer 2002 contest besides Solid Snake vs. Crono? I wasn't at the boards at that time, and I don't know if there's certain matches in which the boards thought much differently from the general bracket makers. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 2:38:33 PM | Message Detail |
| Why Cloud, Sephiroth, Aeris, Squall, Tidus I've heard you say Tidus improved before, but I don't understand. Tidus stayed virtually the same both years. And it would make no sense for Tidus to benefit from Kingdom Hearts, as he did zilch in that game. Even if Tidus had made a big jump, I'd actually attribute that to something else before Kingdom Hearts, because it just doesn't make sense. Chewbacca on Endor? Doesn't make sense. Tidus benefiting from Kingdom Hearts? Doesn't make sense. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, if a theory doesn't make sense, you must dismiss. :D Could it just be chance, or a sign of...worse cheating than ever? X_X I would think that cheating doesn't cause close matches, it is the result of them. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/28/2004 3:26:14 PM | Message Detail |
| man,
today is all messed up. first Soul Calibur is beating KH. all day long,
too!! then there's the new page look. and now the site goes down in the
middle of Kingdom Hearts huge comeback!!!! AAAUUUGGGHHH!!!!!! i don't particularly like the new homepage look either. but at least the sponsored poll of the day is actually below the contest match. CJayC listened to us about that. I know I'm way late, but...were there any Squall vs. Luigi-type upsets in the Summer 2002 contest besides Solid Snake vs. Crono? I wasn't at the boards at that time, and I don't know if there's certain matches in which the boards thought much differently from the general bracket makers. Scorpion over Pac-Man. noone saw that one coming. cyko's Point of View Match 27 Preview (5) Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker vs. (12) Skies of Arcadia this division has become so screwed up and unpredictable that anything from another huge Zelda blowout to Skies pulling a massive upset out because of cel-shading and sailing anti-votes. realistically, though, Zelda can't lose. it was last year's Game of the Year on Gamefaqs. Wind Waker's Link easily made it to the Final Four last year. plus it has the words "LEGEND OF ZELDA" in it's title. Skies of Arcadia is no pushover though. it is a popular RPG. and it's been released on two systems. AND.......... eh, who am i kidding. Vyse only got 37.6% against DK last year. chalk another victory up to the Zelda series. it's time to go watch Kingdom Hearts come back!! (didn't think i'd say those four words together. especially in the first round.) prediction - Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker with 74-78% my bracket - Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker personal favorite - Skies of Arcadia -Wind Waker ain't bad. and the cel shading really does enhance the game. but soooooooooo much sailing. i couldn't handle all of the sailing i had to do. Skies was a pretty good RPG with a great sense of exploration. flying around looking for new discoveries was much more satisfying than sailing around with Link. --- Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 4/28/2004 3:48:17 PM | Message Detail |
| Wow,
what a great couple of matches... And to think, just yesterday creative
was going on about how this contest was "so much more predictable" than
the Character battles! The first SC victory saw us beaten by the Board
Odds for the second time so far, as us Experts were 7.65% more sure
that Halo would be going home the winner. And should the comeback KH is
putting together at the moment fail, we would be soundly beaten once
again: not a single Expert gave Soul Calibur a chance in this matchup!
Alright, let's see how the first SC victory shook things up... The Perfects Ncr Yup, you saw that right... I'll have to drop the 's' next time around, because Ncr now stands alone atop the Scoreboard. Here's how things are looking overall at the moment. The Contest Guru Scoreboard 1st Ncrdrg 25 2nd Bananaquest 24 2nd Sephirot 24 2nd smitelf 24 2nd UltimaterializerX 24 6th Ngamer 23 6th IMAP 23 6th King Morgoth 23 6th StopPokingMe 23 6th red sox 777 23 11th cyko 22 11th neoatomtaco 22 11th Haste2 22 11th Starion 22 11th Shake 22 11th Heroic Mario 22 11th solarshadow 22 11th Ringworm 22 11th Z1mZum 22 11th Xuxon 22 11th charmander 22 11th Team Rocket Elite 22 23rd nh82 21 23rd FastFalcon 21 23rd swirldude 21 23rd Sir Chris 21 23rd Yesmar 21 23rd creativename 21 23rd ChichiriMuyo 21 23rd torey luvullo 21 23rd DomaDragoon 21 Ulti and smitelf got a nice boost back into a tie for 2nd place thanks to their smart backing of StarCraft. Here's the latest stat breakdown. Pts % Gurus 25 3.23% 1 24 12.90% 4 23 16.13% 5 22 38.71% 12 21 29.03% 9 Like I said earlier, if Soul Calibur ends up blindsiding us like this, it would have to go down as one of the biggest shockers of all time. But it'd be such a surprise, the scoreboard wouldn't be affected in the slightest. And now for a quick question: given the poor performance we're currently seeing out of the 2nd biggest PS2 Square RPG, should FFX still be considered the favorite to advance from Division 128? Discuss. --- the-elite.net Guru Rankings: geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/ContestGurus.xls The Contest Archives: http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:32:48 PM | Message Detail |
| Match #25 Review: Wow. Just wow. Best. Match. EVAR. I had all but given up hope when Halo climbed up to a 1100 vote lead, but alas...the spirit of Mario lives on! Boo-****ing-YEAH! This contest was just starting to get boring, and then this match comes along. I love this site. Judging from today's match, StarCraft's second-round faceoff (be it the "other" SC or Kingdom Hearts) will be very interesting. Is it possible for a 16 seed to make it to the third round? We shall see... Match #27 Preview: I don't care. This is just another worthless matchup that will play along in the background until the aftershock of Halo vs. StarCraft wears off. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| From: redline15 | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:39:34 PM | Message Detail |
| No,
not really. Contest-wise, I think KH simply works better as a catalyst
for other games than it does on its own. Sort of like The Wizard and
Mario 3. ...that is the perfect comparison. it makes a lot of sense, and it explains the game's effect on these contests perfectly. the wizard was cheesy and just...wrong... but it had mario 3...and it showed some people how good mario 3 was. like me, for instance... --- signature (n.): a random bit of gibberish that no one ever reads. |
| From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:47:20 PM | Message Detail |
| The competitve me says "Yay! KH is making a comeback" The gamer me says "Dammit, KH sucks and doesn't deserve this win" And the realist me says "SC will probbaly make a late night comeback like the other SC did yesterday. . . . My inner child is telling me to go play with the beyblade that I'm more than a dacade to old have bought... as you can tell, my inner child wins far too often. --- If all Christians acted like Christ, the whole world would be Christian. - Gandhi And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:51:51 PM | Message Detail |
| Something tells me Soul Calibur won't be able to retaliate. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: Seijun | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:57:27 PM | Message Detail |
I hope SC does. *giggles insanely at the thought of bracket makers watching four points go down the toilet* ^^ --- The last thing I see in my lifetime is that fixed smile crawling out of the television, as my brain explodes into tiny, sobbing pieces. -Videogame Recaps |
| From: Yesmar | Posted: 4/28/2004 5:59:55 PM | Message Detail |
| Well
I was gone all weekend, got back Monday and was barely on yesterday, so
I've had no time to post and frankly I'm not sure I'll ever post as
much as I have been. I got out of the groove for too long. Oh, who
knows, maybe I'll start posting more again. As for this match "Wow!!!" I remember looking at the predictions for this match in the Oracle topic and seeing people post win percentages of 60-70% and thinking, "These people have way too much confidence." I never thought Soul Calibur would have a chance at winning but I thought it could pull around 43% and thought that if there was any Squall Vs. Luigi match in the first round this would be it. If Soul Calibur wins, even though I'll lose 4 points I will be so happy that I still got to see all this excitement for the second day in a row. I salute you Soul Calibur. And to think that I originally had Kingdom Hearts in the Elite Eight. --- Heh Heh... The wind... It is blowing...--Ganondorf |
| From: therealmnm | Posted: 4/28/2004 6:01:14 PM | Message Detail |
| Wow,
I've sure missed a lot! I've been busy with finals here at FSU. I come
back and check out what's going on and I'm in shock. Halo vs. Starcraft
was the first upset that I actually did not see coming at all! Granted
I have never PLAYED Starcraft before... I admit I'm not as broad on
games as I should be. I'm not into PC games OR MMORPGs at ALL! I guess
I'm just an old school consoler. Oh well, my bracket is shot. I had
Halo at LEAST getting to the Sweet 16. I figured that, even though
there was a lot of X-Box hate on this site, Halo was pretty popular
among gamers and it's #1 seed meant that people thought that. I GUESS
NOT!!!! This is almost as bad as Squall vs. Luigi. Oh well, I'm gonna
finish studying for my last final. --- "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't." |
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