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| From: cyko | Posted: 4/27/2004 4:29:54 AM | Message Detail |
Top 5 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage) 1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda: LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 75.28% - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 4) 72.62% - Legend of Zelda: OOT over Fallout 2 5) 71.26% - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2 Top 5 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes) 1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 78272 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 76348 - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2 4) 74682 - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 5) 69753 - Legend of Zelda: OOT over Fallout 2 Top 5 Closest Matches (difference in percentage) 1) 0.14% - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 6.36% - Castlvania: SotN over Perfect Dark * 3) 12.48% - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 4) 14.08% - Doom over Earthbound 5) 15.90% - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C * Top 5 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes) 1) 143 - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 4883 - Castlvania: SotN over Perfect Dark * 3) 11114 - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C * 4) 12076 - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 5) 12164 - Doom over Earthbound Top 5 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals) 1) 107150 - Final Fantasy 7 vs. Suikoden 2 2) 99194 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall 3) 97580 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure 4) 97285 - Super Mario World vs. The Simpsons 5) 97126 - Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force Top 5 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals) 1) 69876 - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C * 2) 72743 - Metroid vs. Pac-Man * 3) 74556 - Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metal Gear * 4) 74688 - Metal Gear Solid vs. Resident Evil * 5) 75583 - Goldeneye 007 vs. Panzer Dragoon Saga * Top 5 Least Popular Polls without an Extra PotD (by vote totals) 1) 84501 - Tetris vs. Galaga 2) 84664 - Super Metroid vs. Phantasy Star 4 3) 84804 - Pong vs. River City Ransom 4) 86418 - Earthbound vs. Doom 5) 90307 - Chrono Trigger vs. Secret of Mana Top 5 Highest Individual Votes 1) 92894 - Legend of Zelda 2) 91749 - Final Fantasy 7 3) 86938 - Final Fantasy 4) 86690 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP 5) 82903 - Legend of Zelda: OOT Top 5 Lowest Individual Votes 1) 4686 - Adventure 2) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes 3) 12256 - Pitfall 4) 12375 - Nights * 5) 13150 - Fallout 2 Top 5 Most Impressive Losers (by votes) 1) 48444 - Duck Hunt 2) 42314 - Street Fighter 2 3) 37127 - Earthbound 4) 35930 - Pefect Dark * 5) 35513 - Phantasy Star Top 5 Least Impressive Winners (by votes) 1) 40495 - Xenogears * 2) 40813 - Castlevania: SotN * 3) 48587 - Donkey Kong 4) 49291 - Doom 5) 49837 - Metroid * Top 5 Least Impressive Winners without an Extra PotD (by votes) 1) 48587 - Donkey Kong 2) 49291 - Doom 3) 54390 - Super Mario RPG 4) 55593 - Contra 5) 57674 - Pong Top 5 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner) 1) still, no data yet..... ever......... 2) 3) 4) 5) Top 5 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner) 1) no data yet...... hopefully soon......... please.......... 2) 3) 4) 5) * = shared PotD with GameRiot or ESPN or FFXI poll --- Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/27/2004 4:37:28 AM | Message Detail |
| and the Halo comeback begins!!! here's the last couple of updates, courtesy of UltimaterializerX: 03:00 | Halo | 04027 | +0167 | 44.62% | Starcraft | 04998 | +0213 | 55.38% | Lead of 0971 | (Up 46) 03:15 | Halo | 04195 | +0168 | 44.46% | Starcraft | 05240 | +0242 | 55.54% | Lead of 1045 | (Up 74) 03:30 | Halo | 04491 | +0296 | 44.91% | Starcraft | 05510 | +0270 | 55.09% | Lead of 1019 | (Down 26) 03:45 | Halo | 04829 | +0338 | 45.31% | Starcraft | 05829 | +0319 | 54.59% | Lead of 1000 | (Down 19) 04:00 | Halo | 05196 | +0367 | 45.76% | Starcraft | 06160 | +0331 | 54.24% | Lead of 0964 | (Down 36) 04:15 | Halo | 05617 | +0421 | 46.25% | Starcraft | 06529 | +0369 | 53.75% | Lead of 0912 | (Down 52) 04:30 | Halo | 06072 | +0455 | 46.65% | Starcraft | 06944 | +0415 | 53.35% | Lead of 0872 | (Down 40) so far, Starcraft's biggest lead was 1045. and Halo has cut into 173 of those votes in the past five updates. we'll see what happens while i am gone at work. --- Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/27/2004 4:51:03 AM | Message Detail |
| Sucks, doesn`t it? --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/27/2004 5:02:09 AM | Message Detail |
| Lots
of twists and turns in this match so far. Definitely living up to the
hype. Just when it looks like Halo will start to steamroll...Starcraft
pulls a gain out of its bag of tricks. Don't think we're going to see excitement like this again for a looong time. This contest is a lot more predictable than I thought it would be. I figured it would be less predictable than the character contests because we weren't experienced with it; but it is far more predictable, because the better games are so much easier to identify than the more popular characters. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/27/2004 5:03:37 AM | Message Detail |
| This
contest is only predicatble for the first two rounds, to be honest. We
don`t know how Zelda 1/Mario 3 will shape up. Or LTTP/FF6, or LTTP/CT,
or FF7/OOT, or anything in the later rounds of D128. We simply don`t
know. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/27/2004 5:10:58 AM | Message Detail |
| This
contest is only predicatble for the first two rounds, to be honest. We
don`t know how Zelda 1/Mario 3 will shape up. Or LTTP/FF6, or LTTP/CT,
or FF7/OOT, or anything in the later rounds of D128. We simply don`t
know. But we seem to know better than we did for character contests. Which is the opposite of what I what I was thinking. I knew that the Elite 8 was cookie-cutter except for a couple matches (and even those only had two real candidates apiece for the spots), but I figured something would surprise us. As of yet, there really haven't been any true surprises. The only "surprises" have come in matches that were hotly debated to begin with. Compare this with the character contests, where there have been matches that blind-sided us. I was expecting scores for this to be lower than SC2K3, but now I'm thinking they'll be higher. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/27/2004 5:43:54 AM | Message Detail |
| I
aint worried yet about my pick, Halo...Remember all the voters in the
US this afternoon, they led the Duck Hunt rally...they will now lead
the Halo rally...Remember Xbox aint as big in Europe...so I am not yet
worried!!! Should be a good one right to the end...:) --- SC2K4: 21/24! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/27/2004 5:59:46 AM | Message Detail |
| Well here we go kiddies :) Time for... Steve Illumina Speaks Thats right, the infamous yet humorous commentary is back, to go with all the rest of us here in this, the greatest of threads, the most worthy of postings on this fanboy dominated board. And so it continues, with 2 solid original breakout games in the"Modern Era" Division Match XXVI (8)Soul Caliber vs (9)Kingdom Hearts Steve's Prediction: Kingdom Hearts by 68.8% Steve's Bracket: Kingdom Hearts Newbie's Pick: Disney! Upset Chances: It is a mathematical certainty. Comments: Here we got FFVI vs Mortal Kombat Redux, as an original and extremely popular Square RPG takes on a worthy and also quite popular fighting game (series). Kingdom Hearts is one of those games that once you play it, if you are a real RPG gamer, ya just have to love it. Its so charming, so beautifully presented, so full of little nuances from Disney history as well as the beloved Final Fantasy series, its so blissful. One of only two Square RPG's to get a true sequel...infact it gets 2 of them, one on GBA and one on PS2. Wow. Even fanboy worshipped FFVII cant say that...yet. Soul Caliber...the title that put Dreamcast on the map. It sold systems back in the day. Its sequel spanned the 3 modern era systems and sold millions on each. It is a fighter that does no wrong, but does everything right. All it needs is online play...fighting game junkies like me can only hope for that in the 3rd installment, if and when it happens. So its a decent match to follow up the Halo Starcraft blockbuster. 2 games that are good, popular and fun to play. But we know where we are here, dont we? Because of that and that alone...one has no real prayer...so sad. It deserved better...it could have beat Shenpoo! Maybe even Fire Emblem too. And MGS2 would have been a great match with it... oh well. Probable Results: Hearts wins solidly in the upper 60's, maybe even low 70's...basically a modern era replay of the FFVI/MK match. Hearts will actually have an easier 2nd round match than its 1st, I dare to say. Steve's Moments: K Hearts: Fav World was the Hundred Acre Wood...its a childhood thing! Soul Caliber: Seung Mina baby! As good with her as I am with Kitana in MK...almost! --- SC2K4: 21/24! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/27/2004 6:02:18 AM | Message Detail |
| That's exactly what I thought, Steve. NA's the only place where the X-Box was successful. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/024 --- Matches: 20/24 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Halo |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/27/2004 6:07:42 AM | Message Detail |
| Really? I didn`t know that. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/27/2004 6:09:43 AM | Message Detail |
| Successful being relative, of course. It pwns the Gamecube in the US, and still manages to lose worldwide. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/024 --- Matches: 20/24 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Halo |
| From: Mild Guy | Posted: 4/27/2004 6:49:57 AM | Message Detail |
| Last
time I heard, XBox was selling better than the GC in Europe. In other
forums I go to where Europeans mix w/ Americans I've heard tales about
working in game stores, and selling about 3 GC's a month. Yikes.
Hearsay, I'm sure, but I doubt it's too far off the mark. How many here
are from Europe? Do you happen to notice which is really more popular? I know GC's recently when up in sales, but all the news stories at Gamespot and whatnot have been saying: 1.PS2 2.XBox 3.GC for the last two years or so. Outside of fanboy nests like these, XBox does pretty well for itself. I can't tell you how many times I've been standing around in a game store when people come in, complain about their PS2 breaking down, and then buy an XBox. Happened to more than one of my friends also. Looks like Sony's going to have competition next gen :) Okay, back to the analysis. --- Proud Supporter of Every Sega Game in the Contest (except Phantasy Star 1) Current Score 22/24. |
| From: Tai | Posted: 4/27/2004 6:50:37 AM | Message Detail |
| FINALLY, a match to look forward too!!! Looks like Halo's losing...no, it's gaining ground!! Muhahahhaha, the better game is going to win, which is Halo of course. MUHAHAHAAHAHA!!! Oh yeah, it's really [ ] how their two certain [ ] presumptions about me and this is my first post ever. Anyhow, go Halo! And *ahem* STORM MUST WE NOT JUSTICE!!! --- Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai. |
| From: Jragghen | Posted: 4/27/2004 6:52:11 AM | Message Detail |
| I know GC's recently when up in sales, but all the news stories at Gamespot and whatnot have been saying: And news stories at financial sites such as Reuters, and actual press releases from the companies in question put Gamecube ahead of Xbox worldwide. In truth, they're close enough that it should make a difference, and it appears that Microsoft is trying to get out of this generation early (news reports just came out that they were trying to get their next gen console out for this Christmas....I'd feel shafted if I had an Xbox and that happened...how long a life is that? 4 years?) |
| From: Mild Guy | Posted: 4/27/2004 6:59:26 AM | Message Detail |
| Thanks
Jragghen. I thought the spike in GC sold would be only temporary, but
it appears to not be the case. I wish game news sites would do more
detailed reports on sales more often, it'd be nice to stay informed
(and save me the trouble of digging around financial news sites). I wonder who still has the biggest user base? And how much it will increase when Halo2 arrives? I'm not surprised that MS wants to shove a new upgrade at us so soon however. What got me was Nintendo's pledge to be the first of the next gen home consoles. I guess every company wants system life spans shortened to about 2-3 years. What effect is that going to have on all the system fanbases? --- Proud Supporter of Every Sega Game in the Contest (except Phantasy Star 1) Current Score 22/24. |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/27/2004 7:23:30 AM | Message Detail |
| This poll is going to turn into another game of spamming for the most outside votes. and even then, God only knows who wins. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/27/2004 7:31:42 AM | Message Detail |
| This match kicks ass. And the "new look" of the boards is an absolute disgrace. Ugh. I can't believe Ceej is even considering that. Does anyone know if he came up with that himself or if he's following CNET's evil design? But yeah, this match kicks ass. Awesome. May the best game (Starcraft) win! --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 23/24, Next Winner: Starcraft |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/27/2004 7:59:43 AM | Message Detail |
| There
will not be any new consoles this year. Maybe not next year either.
Things are fine right now, all 3 are selling well and they all can do
so much more than they are in terms of good games, pushing the systems
to their limits, etc... So relax :) --- SC2K4: 21/24! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/27/2004 8:31:32 AM | Message Detail |
| Anyone think the "kids vote" will have an effect here? Don't see why, but it seems every second topic's about it. Also, XBox has sold more than Gamecube here in Australia, nearly sure of it. It had by quite a bit a while ago, not sure if latest price discounts have affected it though. --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13812791 22/24 Next: Halo |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/27/2004 8:33:35 AM | Message Detail |
| Halo's
going to own the afternoon, I think. Kiddies like to shoot stuff, and
there's not much anti-X-Box sentiment to be had there. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/024 --- Matches: 20/24 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Halo |
| From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 4/27/2004 12:26:07 PM | Message Detail |
| Gamecube is ahead of the Xbox worldwide, but only because of Japan. Xbox is currently doubling Gamecube in America and Europe, but it's lucky to sell 500 per week in Japan. GameFAQs, however, is certainly predisposed towards the Gamecube, for whatever reason. |
| From: Tai | Posted: 4/27/2004 12:33:57 PM | Message Detail |
| Now Halo's leading. Justice has been served. Thank god. -___- --- Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai. |
| From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/27/2004 1:04:48 PM | Message Detail |
| The
Xbox is NOT doubling the GC in the US, I can assure you. The systems'
life time sales are 8.3 mill for Xbox and 7.3 mill for GC. Monthly
sales are 200,000 Xbox, 165,000 GC. That isn't doubling. In fact, even
the PS2 isn't doubling the GC with its 295,000 units sold in the month
of March. European sales are so pathetically scattered it's impossible
to find reliable numbers on a regular basis for console sales. I
imagine, however, since Xbox tanked horribly in the beginning that it
isn't really in that much better of a possition than the GC. You wanna see a huge gap though? Let's look at Japanese Console sales. 7,554 for GC the last full week of March compared to 751 for Xbox the same week. Or, how about the YTD sales? 313,554 for GC, 16,051 for Xbox. Mind you that PS2 is only 894,966 YTD, roughly less than 3 times GC but close to 60 times more than Xbox. In fact, in Japan Xbox can't even double up on the PSOne and its 390 units for the last full week in March. It's like that in most of Asia, I'm sure, as they find our style of games distasteful. From what I CAN find out about Europe in 2003 Xbox sold no more than 50% more units than GC. That's not quite doubling. Sales data from Australia is a bit too difficult for me to find at this time, as I have to go to work. Fact of the matter is, even when Xbox is doing well in some areas it's gettign killed in one of the most important regions (Japan is 2nd to NA) and not gettign a hands down win in the most important region. Add to that the fact that some serious rumors are going around about MS's next system lacking Backards compatability and I can assure you the next-gen wars will be even tougher for the Xbox. If it doesn't have backwards compatability expect it to lose. --- If all Christians acted like Christ, the whole world would be Christian. - Gandhi And I'm 23/24 myself. My loss was all part of Alucard's plan. - BigCow |
| From: Tarrot | Posted: 4/27/2004 1:11:01 PM | Message Detail |
| It appears Halo is winning the mid-day casual vote. It will come down to the night, who has the stronger fanboys, which I feel will be Starcraft. |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/27/2004 4:10:18 PM | Message Detail |
| Match #24 Review: Why are you even here? You should be watching Halo vs. StarCraft. Match #26 Preview: Kingdom Hearts... --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/27/2004 4:40:54 PM | Message Detail |
| ok,
so Halo vs. Starcraft is definitely living up to the hype. currently,
there's about 7.5 hours left and Halo is up by about 900. it's still
anyone's match. cyko's Point of View Match 26 (8) Soul Calibur vs. (9) Kingdom Hearts okay, so this match is nothing compared to today's match. but it deserves some sort of analysis. at first, i was shocked that KH was the unanimous favorite over SC. i thought that at least a few people would go with SC. but after thinking about, KH really does have a free pass to the Sweet 16. i realized that when i saw that KH has sold 4 million copies. i believe that's more than SC and all three versions of it's sequel combined. (correct me if i'm wrong on that one. >_>) either way, that puts Kingdom Hearts as the SECOND BIGGEST RPG of this generation, only behind FFX. game, set, match. you should know by now that RPGs are already a favorite here, especially Square made ones. besides that, KH also has BOTH of last year's finalists: Cloud and Sephiroth. only about four games can make that outrageous claim and KH is easily the second most popular game out of that batch. in fact, a lot of people cite KH as the thing that pushed Cloud and Seph past Link and Mario. as if that wasn't enough, look at what happened to Street Fighter 2. it was unable to stand against Super Mario RPG, which is much less well-known as KH. Soul Calibur is a pretty awesome and popular fighting game, but fighters don't get much support here. it might be able to manage respectable numbers, but it will have a tough time getting half of KH's vote total. prediction: Kingdom Hearts with 65-69% my bracket: Kingdom Hearts personal favorite: Kingdom Hearts - but only very slightly. i am a huge RPG fanboy, but Soul Calibur really was a great fighting game. far superior to SF2. --- Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/27/2004 9:32:03 PM | Message Detail |
| ChichiriMuyo is officially the Discussion Guru Encyclopedia. And damn, what a match. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/27/2004 11:01:13 PM | Message Detail |
| "geesh..." CJAYC HAS SPOKEN'D --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/27/2004 11:14:10 PM | Message Detail |
| I call dibs on posting the entirety of the updates in this thing. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/27/2004 11:24:37 PM | Message Detail |
| Dang, in the madness I forgot to make the preview! Well, a quickie then. Sales: KH. It sold over 4 millions, any Dreamcast exclusive up for the challenge? Franchises: Tie. SC2 is the only chance SC has, but we all know how Kingdom Hearts has grown so big with one game. GameFAQs Status: KH. Slightly more FAQs and better reviews for SC, loads more reviews and HUGE board activity. Board Odds Project: KH. Look up for yourself. Summer Contests / PotDs: KH. Solid runner-up to Metroid Prime in the 2002 GotY poll, AND the clinching factor for Cloud and Sephiroth in SC2K3. Sora did bad... can we blame SFF? We'll need to see him in action again to be sure. Intangibles: KH. Square vs. Dreamcast fighting game = instant win. I think the anti-Disney votes will be minimal, if there are any. Conclusion: POWER OVERWHELMING Sorry, just can't take my head off of today's match. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/024 --- Matches: 20/24 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Halo |
| From: andaca | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:11:37 AM | Message Detail |
| Er, so the BoP has failed? --- SP2k4C : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
| From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:12:27 AM | Message Detail |
| Er, so the BoP has failed? It's no longer perfect, but only missing 1 point is still very good at this point. --- ''Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts...'' ''All dreams are but another reality. Never forget...'' |
| From: andaca | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:14:48 AM | Message Detail |
| But the perfection! The precious perfection! All...gone.... *tear* Still i wonder how the next match will be....The BOP has an overwhelming win for KH lined up, but it seems close right now.... only the day vote will tell. --- SP2k4C : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:53:40 AM | Message Detail |
| I`m going to post the entirety of the Halo/Starcraft updates, but without bolding. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:54:49 AM | Message Detail |
| 23:30 | Halo | 00083 | +0083 | 47.98% | Starcraft | 00090 | +0090 | 52.02% | Lead of 0007 | (Up 7) 23:45 | Halo | 00480 | +0397 | 45.41% | Starcraft | 00577 | +0487 | 54.59% | Lead of 0097 | (Up 90) 00:00 | Halo | 00972 | +0492 | 45.27% | Starcraft | 01175 | +0598 | 54.73% | Lead of 0203 | (Up 106) 00:15 | Halo | 01444 | +0472 | 45.75% | Starcraft | 01712 | +0537 | 54.25% | Lead of 0268 | (Up 65) 00:30 | Halo | 01830 | +0386 | 45.38% | Starcraft | 02203 | +0491 | 54.62% | Lead of 0373 | (Up 105) 00:45 | Halo | 02164 | +0334 | 45.09% | Starcraft | 02635 | +0432 | 54.91% | Lead of 0471 | (Up 98) 01:00 | Halo | 02420 | +0256 | 44.72% | Starcraft | 02991 | +0356 | 55.28% | Lead of 0571 | (Up 100) 01:15 | Halo | 02672 | +0252 | 44.64% | Starcraft | 03313 | +0322 | 55.36% | Lead of 0641 | (Up 70) 01:30 | Halo | 02882 | +0210 | 44.45% | Starcraft | 03602 | +0289 | 55.55% | Lead of 0720 | (Up 79) 01:45 | Halo | 03105 | +0223 | 44.60% | Starcraft | 03857 | +0255 | 55.40% | Lead of 0752 | (Up 32) 02:00 | Halo | 03294 | +0189 | 44.44% | Starcraft | 04118 | +0261 | 55.56% | Lead of 0824 | (Up 72) 02:15 | Halo | 03470 | +0176 | 44.44% | Starcraft | 04338 | +0220 | 55.56% | Lead of 0868 | (Up 44) 02:30 | Halo | 03664 | +0194 | 44.61% | Starcraft | 04550 | +0212 | 55.39% | Lead of 0886 | (Up 18) 02:45 | Halo | 03860 | +0196 | 44.65% | Starcraft | 04785 | +0235 | 55.35% | Lead of 0925 | (Up 39) 03:00 | Halo | 04027 | +0167 | 44.62% | Starcraft | 04998 | +0213 | 55.38% | Lead of 0971 | (Up 46) 03:15 | Halo | 04195 | +0168 | 44.46% | Starcraft | 05240 | +0242 | 55.54% | Lead of 1045 | (Up 74) 03:30 | Halo | 04491 | +0296 | 44.91% | Starcraft | 05510 | +0270 | 55.09% | Lead of 1019 | (Down 26) 03:45 | Halo | 04829 | +0338 | 45.31% | Starcraft | 05829 | +0319 | 54.69% | Lead of 1000 | (Down 19) 04:00 | Halo | 05196 | +0367 | 45.76% | Starcraft | 06160 | +0331 | 54.24% | Lead of 0964 | (Down 36) 04:15 | Halo | 05617 | +0421 | 46.25% | Starcraft | 06529 | +0369 | 53.75% | Lead of 0912 | (Down 52) 04:30 | Halo | 06072 | +0455 | 46.65% | Starcraft | 06944 | +0415 | 53.35% | Lead of 0872 | (Down 40) 04:45 | Halo | 06504 | +0432 | 47.06% | Starcraft | 07318 | +0374 | 52.94% | Lead of 0814 | (Down 58) 05:00 | Halo | 06939 | +0435 | 47.14% | Starcraft | 07782 | +0464 | 52.86% | Lead of 0843 | (Up 29) 05:15 | Halo | 07398 | +0459 | 47.39% | Starcraft | 08214 | +0432 | 52.61% | Lead of 0816 | (Down 27) 05:30 | Halo | 07905 | +0507 | 47.86% | Starcraft | 08612 | +0398 | 52.14% | Lead of 0707 | (Down 109) 05:45 | Halo | 08396 | +0491 | 48.17% | Starcraft | 09033 | +0421 | 51.83% | Lead of 0637 | (Down 70) 06:00 | Halo | 08891 | +0495 | 48.46% | Starcraft | 09457 | +0424 | 51.54% | Lead of 0566 | (Down 71) 06:15 | Halo | 09402 | +0511 | 48.59% | Starcraft | 09946 | +0489 | 51.41% | Lead of 0544 | (Down 22) 06:30 | Halo | 09907 | +0505 | 48.72% | Starcraft | 10427 | +0481 | 51.28% | Lead of 0520 | (Down 24) 06:45 | Halo | 10475 | +0568 | 48.90% | Starcraft | 10945 | +0518 | 51.10% | Lead of 0470 | (Down 50) 07:00 | Halo | 11038 | +0563 | 49.09% | Starcraft | 11445 | +0500 | 50.91% | Lead of 0407 | (Down 63) 07:15 | Halo | 11577 | +0539 | 49.16% | Starcraft | 11974 | +0529 | 50.84% | Lead of 0397 | (Down 10) 07:30 | Halo | 12182 | +0605 | 49.31% | Starcraft | 12522 | +0548 | 50.69% | Lead of 0340 | (Down 57) 07:45 | Halo | 12809 | +0627 | 49.42% | Starcraft | 13110 | +0588 | 50.58% | Lead of 0301 | (Down 39) 08:00 | Halo | 13424 | +0615 | 49.56% | Starcraft | 13665 | +0555 | 50.44% | Lead of 0241 | (Down 60) |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:55:20 AM | Message Detail |
| 08:15 | Halo | 14037 | +0613 | 49.61% | Starcraft | 14260 | +0595 | 50.39% | Lead of 0223 | (Down 18) 08:30 | Halo | 14676 | +0639 | 49.73% | Starcraft | 14834 | +0574 | 50.27% | Lead of 0158 | (Down 65) 08:45 | Halo | 15328 | +0652 | 49.84% | Starcraft | 15427 | +0593 | 50.16% | Lead of 0099 | (Down 59) 09:00 | Halo | 15925 | +0597 | 49.94% | Starcraft | 15962 | +0535 | 50.06% | Lead of 0037 | (Down 62) 09:15 | Halo | 16550 | +0625 | 49.92% | Starcraft | 16603 | +0641 | 50.08% | Lead of 0053 | (Up 16) 09:30 | Halo | 17181 | +0631 | 49.93% | Starcraft | 17230 | +0627 | 50.07% | Lead of 0049 | (Down 4) 09:45 | Halo | 17806 | +0625 | 49.96% | Starcraft | 17833 | +0603 | 50.04% | Lead of 0027 | (Down 22) 10:00 | Halo | 18415 | +0609 | 50.02% | Starcraft | 18403 | +0570 | 49.98% | Lead of 0012 | (Up 39) 10:15 | Halo | 19017 | +0602 | 49.98% | Starcraft | 19035 | +0632 | 50.02% | Lead of 0018 | (Up 30) 10:30 | Halo | 19662 | +0645 | 50.04% | Starcraft | 19632 | +0597 | 49.96% | Lead of 0030 | (Up 48) 10:45 | Halo | 20275 | +0613 | 50.07% | Starcraft | 20215 | +0583 | 49.93% | Lead of 0060 | (Up 30) 11:00 | Halo | 20830 | +0555 | 50.03% | Starcraft | 20809 | +0594 | 49.97% | Lead of 0021 | (Down 39) 11:15 | Halo | 21400 | +0570 | 49.94% | Starcraft | 21454 | +0645 | 50.06% | Lead of 0054 | (Up 75) 11:30 | Halo | 22016 | +0616 | 49.92% | Starcraft | 22085 | +0631 | 50.08% | Lead of 0069 | (Up 15) 11:45 | Halo | 22758 | +0742 | 50.01% | Starcraft | 22750 | +0665 | 49.99% | Lead of 0008 | (Up 77) 12:00 | Halo | 23721 | +0963 | 50.08% | Starcraft | 23642 | +0892 | 49.92% | Lead of 0079 | (Up 71) 12:15 | Halo | 24729 | +1008 | 50.14% | Starcraft | 24592 | +0950 | 49.86% | Lead of 0137 | (Up 58) 12:30 | Halo | 25726 | +0997 | 50.22% | Starcraft | 25496 | +0904 | 49.78% | Lead of 0230 | (Up 93) 12:45 | Halo | 26714 | +0988 | 50.30% | Starcraft | 26391 | +0895 | 49.70% | Lead of 0323 | (Up 93) 13:00 | Halo | 27759 | +1045 | 50.40% | Starcraft | 27320 | +0929 | 49.60% | Lead of 0439 | (Up 116) 13:15 | Halo | 28788 | +1029 | 50.42% | Starcraft | 28303 | +0983 | 49.58% | Lead of 0485 | (Up 46) 13:30 | Halo | 29830 | +1042 | 50.44% | Starcraft | 29313 | +1010 | 49.56% | Lead of 0517 | (Up 32) 13:45 | Halo | 30891 | +1061 | 50.44% | Starcraft | 30352 | +1039 | 49.56% | Lead of 0539 | (Up 22) 14:00 | Halo | 31912 | +1021 | 50.45% | Starcraft | 31346 | +0994 | 49.55% | Lead of 0566 | (Up 27) 14:15 | Halo | 32933 | +1021 | 50.50% | Starcraft | 32287 | +0941 | 49.50% | Lead of 0646 | (Up 80) 14:30 | Halo | 33904 | +0971 | 50.50% | Starcraft | 33236 | +0949 | 49.50% | Lead of 0668 | (Up 22) 14:45 | Halo | 34888 | +0984 | 50.54% | Starcraft | 34139 | +0903 | 49.46% | Lead of 0749 | (Up 81) 15:00 | Halo | 35855 | +0967 | 50.56% | Starcraft | 35062 | +0923 | 49.44% | Lead of 0793 | (Up 44) 15:15 | Halo | 36760 | +0905 | 50.55% | Starcraft | 35967 | +0905 | 49.45% | Lead of 0793 | (Up 0) 15:30 | Halo | 37681 | +0921 | 50.55% | Starcraft | 36867 | +0900 | 49.45% | Lead of 0814 | (Up 21) 15:45 | Halo | 38658 | +0977 | 50.62% | Starcraft | 37711 | +0844 | 49.38% | Lead of 0947 | (Up 133) 16:00 | Halo | 39539 | +0881 | 50.59% | Starcraft | 38622 | +0911 | 49.41% | Lead of 0917 | (Down 30) |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:56:26 AM | Message Detail |
| 16:15 | Halo | 40442 | +0903 | 50.62% | Starcraft | 39452 | +0830 | 49.38% | Lead of 0990 | (Up 73) 16:30 | Halo | 41228 | +0786 | 50.57% | Starcraft | 40294 | +0842 | 49.43% | Lead of 0934 | (Down 56) 16:45 | Halo | 42069 | +0841 | 50.56% | Starcraft | 41144 | +0850 | 49.44% | Lead of 0925 | (Down 9) 17:00 | Halo | 42873 | +0804 | 50.55% | Starcraft | 41941 | +0797 | 49.45% | Lead of 0932 | (Up 7) 17:15 | Halo | 43675 | +0802 | 50.58% | Starcraft | 42679 | +0738 | 49.42% | Lead of 0996 | (Up 64) 17:30 | Halo | 44415 | +0740 | 50.59% | Starcraft | 43380 | +0701 | 49.41% | Lead of 1035 | (Up 39) 17:45 | Halo | 45114 | +0699 | 50.57% | Starcraft | 44095 | +0715 | 49.43% | Lead of 1019 | (Down 16) 18:00 | Halo | 45807 | +0693 | 50.59% | Starcraft | 44747 | +0652 | 49.41% | Lead of 1060 | (Up 41) 18:15 | Halo | 46500 | +0693 | 50.60% | Starcraft | 45404 | +0657 | 49.40% | Lead of 1096 | (Up 36) 18:30 | Halo | 47176 | +0676 | 50.59% | Starcraft | 46074 | +0670 | 49.41% | Lead of 1102 | (Up 6) 18:45 | Halo | 47805 | +0629 | 50.59% | Starcraft | 46697 | +0623 | 49.41% | Lead of 1108 | (Up 6) 19:00 | Halo | 48388 | +0583 | 50.54% | Starcraft | 47354 | +0657 | 49.46% | Lead of 1034 | (Down 74) 19:15 | Halo | 48965 | +0577 | 50.48% | Starcraft | 48035 | +0681 | 49.52% | Lead of 0930 | (Down 104) 19:30 | Halo | 49554 | +0589 | 50.45% | Starcraft | 48662 | +0627 | 49.55% | Lead of 0892 | (Down 38) 19:45 | Halo | 50188 | +0634 | 50.44% | Starcraft | 49322 | +0660 | 49.56% | Lead of 0866 | (Down 26) 20:00 | Halo | 50755 | +0567 | 50.44% | Starcraft | 49879 | +0557 | 49.56% | Lead of 0876 | (Up 10) 20:15 | Halo | 51248 | +0493 | 50.39% | Starcraft | 50454 | +0575 | 49.61% | Lead of 0794 | (Down 82) 20:30 | Halo | 51747 | +0499 | 50.39% | Starcraft | 50951 | +0497 | 49.61% | Lead of 0796 | (Up 2) 20:45 | Halo | 52153 | +0406 | 50.34% | Starcraft | 51455 | +0504 | 49.66% | Lead of 0698 | (Down 98) 21:00 | Halo | 52512 | +0359 | 50.29% | Starcraft | 51908 | +0453 | 49.71% | Lead of 0604 | (Down 94) 21:15 | Halo | 52984 | +0472 | 50.28% | Starcraft | 52386 | +0478 | 49.72% | Lead of 0598 | (Down 6) 21:30 | Halo | 53393 | +0409 | 50.25% | Starcraft | 52856 | +0470 | 49.75% | Lead of 0537 | (Down 61) 21:45 | Halo | 53802 | +0409 | 50.23% | Starcraft | 53315 | +0459 | 49.77% | Lead of 0487 | (Down 50) 22:00 | Halo | 54150 | +0348 | 50.17% | Starcraft | 53773 | +0458 | 49.83% | Lead of 0377 | (Down 110) 22:15 | Halo | 54467 | +0317 | 50.12% | Starcraft | 54217 | +0444 | 49.88% | Lead of 0250 | (Down 127) 22:30 | Halo | 54729 | +0262 | 50.03% | Starcraft | 54665 | +0448 | 49.97% | Lead of 0064 | (Down 186) 22:45 | Halo | 55018 | +0289 | 49.96% | Starcraft | 55102 | +0437 | 50.04% | Lead of 0084 | (Up 148) 23:00 | Halo | 55347 | +0329 | 49.93% | Starcraft | 55508 | +0406 | 50.07% | Lead of 0161 | (Up 77) 23:15 | Halo | 55604 | +0257 | 49.89% | Starcraft | 55852 | +0344 | 50.11% | Lead of 0248 | (Up 87) 23:30 | Halo | 55829 | +0225 | 49.87% | Starcraft | 56114 | +0262 | 50.13% | Lead of 0285 | (Up 37) 23:45 | Halo | 56010 | +0181 | 49.85% | Starcraft | 56348 | +0234 | 50.15% | Lead of 0338 | (Up 53) 24:00 | Halo | 56198 | +0188 | 49.85% | Starcraft | 56544 | +0196 | 50.15% | Lead of 0346 | (Up 8) |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 12:58:02 AM | Message Detail |
| Well,
there it is. In all of its glory and prestigue as possibly the best
match we have ever had on this site. Personally, I say it`s the best
with ease, simply because of the whole 16 over 1 thing. But tip your hat to Halo. It didn`t go down without a fight, just like you would expect from a 1 seed, albeit a weak 1 seed. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/28/2004 2:34:07 AM | Message Detail |
| Lost in the train wreck of seven update topics is Slowflake`s graph. Slow, when you see this, hit me up with a link please? --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:14:13 AM | Message Detail |
| *shakes head* stupid, lousy X-Box and all of it's haters! *shakes fist* i seriously want to know how many people had Starcraft in their brackets. and my initials thoughts from last month about Soul Calibur vs. Kingdom Hearts were right! Soul Calibur is not a pushover. over the past month, i bought into the KH hype. although, i still can't believe that Super Mario RPG did better than KH at this point. i would've thought SF2 and Soul Calibur to be about even, but i NEVER would've picked SMRPG over Kingdom Hearts. it looks like the first match of the second round of this division will be very interesting. --- Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:20:47 AM | Message Detail |
| Top 5 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage) 1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda: LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 75.28% - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 4) 72.62% - Legend of Zelda: OOT over Fallout 2 5) 71.26% - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2 Top 5 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes) 1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 78272 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 76348 - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2 4) 74682 - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 5) 69753 - Legend of Zelda: OOT over Fallout 2 Top 5 Closest Matches (difference in percentage) 1) 0.14% - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 0.34% - Starcraft over Halo 3) 6.36% - Castlvania: SotN over Perfect Dark * 4) 12.48% - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 5) 14.08% - Doom over Earthbound Top 5 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes) 1) 143 - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 373 - Starcraft over Halo 3) 4883 - Castlvania: SotN over Perfect Dark * 4) 11114 - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C * 5) 12076 - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 Top 5 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals) 1) 112889 - Halo vs. Starcraft 2) 107150 - Final Fantasy 7 vs. Suikoden 2 3) 99194 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall 4) 97580 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure 5) 97285 - Super Mario World vs. The Simpsons Top 5 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals) 1) 69876 - Xenogears over Pokemon G/S/C * 2) 72743 - Metroid vs. Pac-Man * 3) 74556 - Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metal Gear * 4) 74688 - Metal Gear Solid vs. Resident Evil * 5) 75583 - Goldeneye 007 vs. Panzer Dragoon Saga * Top 5 Least Popular Polls without an Extra PotD (by vote totals) 1) 84501 - Tetris vs. Galaga 2) 84664 - Super Metroid vs. Phantasy Star 4 3) 84804 - Pong vs. River City Ransom 4) 86418 - Earthbound vs. Doom 5) 90307 - Chrono Trigger vs. Secret of Mana Top 5 Highest Individual Votes 1) 92894 - Legend of Zelda 2) 91749 - Final Fantasy 7 3) 86938 - Final Fantasy 4) 86690 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP 5) 82903 - Legend of Zelda: OOT Top 5 Lowest Individual Votes 1) 4686 - Adventure 2) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes 3) 12256 - Pitfall 4) 12375 - Nights * 5) 13150 - Fallout 2 Top 5 Most Impressive Losers (by votes) 1) 56258 - Halo 2) 48444 - Duck Hunt 3) 42314 - Street Fighter 2 4) 37127 - Earthbound 5) 35930 - Pefect Dark * Top 5 Least Impressive Winners (by votes) 1) 40495 - Xenogears * 2) 40813 - Castlevania: SotN * 3) 48587 - Donkey Kong 4) 49291 - Doom 5) 49837 - Metroid * Top 5 Least Impressive Winners without an Extra PotD (by votes) 1) 48587 - Donkey Kong 2) 49291 - Doom 3) 54390 - Super Mario RPG 4) 55593 - Contra 5) 56631 - Starcraft Top 5 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner) 1) still, no data yet..... ever......... 2) 3) 4) 5) Top 5 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner) 1) no data yet...... hopefully soon......... please.......... 2) 3) 4) 5) * = shared PotD with GameRiot or ESPN or FFXI poll --- Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:25:24 AM | Message Detail |
| I seriously doubt you're awake right now Ulti, but here goes. www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls And it looks like we'll need another batch of graphs for today, especially if the morning vote swings KH's way. And if it does, Soul Calibur's pretty much done for, for it does not have the POWER OVERWHELMING of recovering from huge gaps rapidly. But this gives Starcraft vs. winner of this match a whole new life, that's for sure. Especially if it's a combination of SoCal being underestimated and KH being overestimated. We thought we'd have to endure the Starcraft catchphrases once, but it could go up to three times. Wow. A 16-seed winning TWO matches... is that possible? Or... is Sora more representative of KH than we thought? Master Chief did better than Sora against Aeris. If the Summer Contest results are followed so well, as I suggested a few days ago, KH's toast against Starcraft. If it gets rid of Soul Calibur of course. Funny, I'd have thought KH > Sora because of the cameos. Oh well. If KH doesn't come back I'll have this entire 4-pack wrong. And to think, we were worried about the BangFang Triangle... if Starcraft's next match is a nailbuiter, Magus' 4-pack from last year (2 nailbiters, 1 blowout) would have nothing on this one. Imagine... Halo, Starcraft, Soul Calibur and Kingdom Hearts dead even, and they had to be put together. To think, we all thought KH would have an easy ride to the third round. Thus highlighting the importance of having the correct winner for MP/WW, AND having it survive until the division finals. Final note: if the Summer Contest pattern is followed to the letter, Metroid Prime could win bigger than we thought. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:29:14 AM | Message Detail |
| and
my initials thoughts from last month about Soul Calibur vs. Kingdom
Hearts were right! Soul Calibur is not a pushover. over the past month,
i bought into the KH hype. although, i still can't believe that Super
Mario RPG did better than KH at this point. i would've thought SF2 and
Soul Calibur to be about even I'm not sure, but I think Soul Calibur might be significantly stronger than Street Fighter 2, because of the success of Soul Calibur 2. That was a very successful game, with appeal to every systems' fanbase. Especially the GameCube fanbase which is very strong at this site. I think the match result so far indicates both weakness on the part of Kingdom Hearts, as well as greater than expected strength on the part of Soul Calibur. Kingdom Hearts will probably win this match with a comfortable margin when all is said and done, but it won't do nearly as well as expected. But if Soul Calibur has a huge portion of Soul Calibur 2's vote--which I suspect it does; we've seen the impact of franchise votes in this contest already--then it isn't as bad for Kingdom Hearts as it looks. it looks like the first match of the second round of this division will be very interesting Looks like this whole division will be very interesting. Sadly, it may be the only source of interest at all, until the late rounds. Kingdom Hearts vs. Starcraft being in doubt though...who'da thunk it?? Not I. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:32:39 AM | Message Detail |
| But then, how come PS and DK did NOT get much help from their franchises? --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:35:25 AM | Message Detail |
| Well,
Slowflake already said everything I just said :) I had to do an update
in the middle of writing my post though, so I didn't see his before. Or... is Sora more representative of KH than we thought? ... Funny, I'd have thought KH > Sora because of the cameos. I still think that Sora isn't very indicative of Kingdom Hearts. And to think, we were worried about the BangFang Triangle... What was that again? Is that the Goldeneye thing? Because I always figured a Goldeneye victory there was a foregone conclusion, at last until it's disappointing performance against PDS. But that was probably similar to this match--not just overestimation of Goldeneye, but also underestimation of PDS. Again, there's that franchise factor. Final note: if the Summer Contest pattern is followed to the letter, Metroid Prime could win bigger than we thought. I'd think the opposite...given Starcraft's victory, my expectations for Half-Life have gone up. I had Metroid Prime winning that match with 75%, but I now highly doubt it can do that well. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:37:30 AM | Message Detail |
| My
point was that if the case for Half-Life > Gordon happens to be
false because of sticking with Summer Contest patterns, Half-Life's
going to be in deep doo-doo. But then again, Starcraft won... contradictory signals galore! --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 020/025 --- Matches: 20/25 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: KH |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:38:52 AM | Message Detail |
| But then, how come PS and DK did NOT get much help from their franchises? By PS you mean Phantasy Star? Because that clearly did benefit from its franchise. No way that game gets 40% against Contra without franchise votes. As for Donkey Kong, I don't know...I don't know how strong his franchise is. I know the DKC SNES games are extremeley popular, but they're pretty far removed from the original arcade game. I'm not really sure about anything related to Donkey Kong. When it comes to these contests, that's one crazy monkey o_O --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 4:51:20 AM | Message Detail |
| I'd say the following matches are indicative of franchise power: *Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall - While Final Fantasy was a great game, it wasn't one of the biggest NES games. Though, since RPGs typically age better than other games, it's unclear how much the franchise helped it. But without the franchise, I'm not sure this would've made the contest. *Phantasy Star vs. Contra - I just can't see Phantasy Star even making this contest without franchise support, let alone doing so well. *SMRPG vs. Street Fighter 2 - C'mon. *Goldeneye vs. Panzer Dragoon Saga - PDS would've been as obscure as you could get...if it weren't for the XBox sequel. And, also, the current match. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/28/2004 5:06:44 AM | Message Detail |
| All
I can say is...I am in utter shock at Halo's defeat. I went to bed with
5 hrs to go, and it had a nice lead. But what does StarCraft do? It
comes back to win...totally unbelievable. Yep it lived up to the hype...yep it made contest history...yep a #1 seed fell. Good thing its only 1 point...I can live with that... Go KH! --- SC2K4: 21/25! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/28/2004 5:07:51 AM | Message Detail |
| Good thing its only 1 point Ah...but is it? It might be 3. Not like 3 points is all that, but still. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
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