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From: Starion | Posted: 4/26/2004 12:46:17 PM | Message Detail
Well you have to consider what type of game it is. Starcraft is an RTS game. I would place RTS games lower than FPS on the recognition scale here in Gamefaqs. Now, you may argue that strategy games have gained popularity but those games have more ties to console RPGs than the RTS genre from the PC.

As for Diablo, it's a hack-and-slash RPGish game. It fits perfectly with the Gamefaq user base.
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From: creativename | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:27:23 PM | Message Detail
I however throw my support to Halo...for it has ALL of the Xbox Nation behind it, as well as casuals

What, exactly, makes you think so-called "casuals" would support Halo over Starcraft any more than the rest of the voters? (even if it hadn't already been shown the registered and unregistered users vote in pretty much the same proportions, there would be no real reason to think this)

As a PC gamer I can’t speak for the casuals on this match but could anyone who isn’t much of a PC gamer tell me Starcraft’s approximate name recognition standing? I was under the impression that it was right up there with Doom.

You are correct. I am a PC gamer, I guess, (even though I don't really play any kind of games anymore), but the 'Craft series has long been one of the most well-known series of PC games.

Well you have to consider what type of game it is. Starcraft is an RTS game. I would place RTS games lower than FPS on the recognition scale here in Gamefaqs.

Doesn't matter. EVERYONE knows Starcraft. For all intents and purposes, it is universally known among gamers. As well as any PC game can be known on GameFAQs.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:31:16 PM | Message Detail
Turns out Fallout 2 wasn`t as unkown as I had previously expected, however, OoT pulling 85% right now isn`t to bad to go up against FFVII right? I mean, I`m pretty sure by this FFVII is a favorite if you consider Suikoden II > Fallout 2 but it wouldn`t be a clear favorite like early in the match correct?

Anyway, tomorrow should be good. =)
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From: Tarrot | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:34:29 PM | Message Detail
And Zelda is getting the 90% everyone told me I was crazy to doubt... only... it's not... wait, I was right, wasn't I?

*gloats about being right*
From: The Foolish Ninja | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:41:57 PM | Message Detail
Its a great solid game with a very much coveted sequel. Only FFXII is more anticipated in the world of gaming right now...

Actually, Halo 2 is the most wanted game right now, followed closely by Metroid Prime 2 and Gran Turismo 4.

http://www.gamestats.com

Yes, I do know this site gets much of its popularity stats from IGN, but it still is a good gauge of how popular some games are so far.

From: The Foolish Ninja | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:46:28 PM | Message Detail
Halo 2 is the most wanted game

Most popular...my bad. Regardless, Halo 2 is the most wanted game as well.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:49:16 PM | Message Detail
I'd be hesitant to give an edge to either game. FF7/OoT is going to be as bloody as one can expect. And with no competition on the other side of the bracket, it's pretty much winner-takes-all.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:52:22 PM | Message Detail
I`m pulling for Ocarina of Time to beat FFVII myself, should be one crazy match.
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From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:54:56 PM | Message Detail
If Halo vs Starcraft is a close match, I guess the winner has no chance against Kingdom Hearts. But if Starcraft wins by a large margin, I am thinking Kingdom Hearts is in trouble. And of course, we know Halo can't beat KH.
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Contest Score: 23-0
Next Pick : OoT
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/26/2004 1:57:04 PM | Message Detail
I pretty much said that in my preview. Starcraft will need 60% to stand a chance against KH.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/26/2004 4:09:58 PM | Message Detail
And Zelda is getting the 90% everyone told me I was crazy to doubt... only... it's not... wait, I was right, wasn't I?

*gloats about being right*


Assuming you`re Tai, you aren`t right at all. OOT does not and will not receive 90% of the votes come the end of the match.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/26/2004 4:15:48 PM | Message Detail
Because it doesn`t deserve to die yet, is it okay if I copy-paste Slowflake`s analysis?

*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #25 - (1) HALO: COMBAT EVOLVED vs. (16) STARCRAFT ***

I know Ulti made a similar one, but there's some stuff I disagree with him on, plus he left me some stuff to do by myself, so for the sake of consistency, I'll do that one as well.

Sales

Halo sold 4 millions. Starcraft sold 5 millions.

The only other round 1 match I can think of where both games sold in the seven digits is Prime/HL. And depends on whether KOTOR did or not.

Wait, I'm going off-topic here. These two are big, VERY big sellers. Halo single-handedly saved the X-Box from being the Google entry for "miserable failure" in Bush's place. And Starcraft may just be the flagship of PC gaming. But hey, Starcraft sold better, even if only by 20%. Period.

- Advantage STARCRAFT.

Franchises

Sure, Halo 2 and Starcraft: Ghost are coming our way, but for now the originals single-handedly represent their series. Since this match is so hard to call, it's only fair that this here category is too. And no, Diablo and Warcraft don't count: it's Halo vs. Starcraft, not Bungie vs. Blizzard.

- TIE. (Though that should really read, the winner of the match wins this category.)

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: Starcraft
Number of reviews: Halo
Average review score: Starcraft
Board activity: Halo

First off, I ought to mention what I counted as non-negligible sources: Halo for X-Box and PC, Starcraft for PC and N64, as well as Brood War. I don't count the Ghost boards, because it's a different game altogether.

You have to be real careful when looking at the N64 Starcraft board though: most of these are really old topics (and I'll let you figure out the common point between these topics for laughs). Even there, summing up all the posts for Starcraft's three boards to Halo's two, Starcraft isn't coming close. Ulti just though "nine boards for Starcraft, five for Halo". Big mistake, Halo's boards are more populated.

Now, the common point is that in all categories, the winner wins big. Two against two... what's there left to do but declaring this another...

- TIE.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Halo: Combat Evolved - 67
Starcraft - 35

POINT VALUE
22. Halo: Combat Evolved - 127
28. Starcraft - 81

The battle in terms of picks was quite close all the time, even though Starcraft never got close enough. And in the final day, a sudden burst of Halo picks almost allowed it to double Starcraft.

Now, we all think it's obvious that whatever wins is going to get steamrolled by Kingdom Hearts, right? Well, one out of four brackets in the BOP has Halo (14) or Starcraft (13) advancing further. Those who picked Starcraft to beat Halo have more faith in it to go far than those who picked Halo. And quite frankly, I agree with that: a big win for Starcraft would make it a legit threat to Kingdom Hearts, maybe even the four main contenders for the division title. While a big win by Halo would only highlight Starcraft's own weakness, and with it, the PC as a whole.

But in the end, 2 out of 3 people picked Halo, so I have to render a verdict in its favor.

- Advantage HALO.

Summer Contests / Polls of the Day

Master Chief was such a curveball last year, I just can't give anything to anyone here.

Halo was in the 2001 GOTY poll, though: the competition was gigantic, with FF10, GTA3, SSBM and MGS2 snagging the first four places ahead of Halo. Interesting note: Halo beat Diablo 2 on that poll, and it still is one of the most talked about PC games on this site.

So what conclusions can we draw from this, over two years later?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

- UNAVAILABLE.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/26/2004 4:17:33 PM | Message Detail
Intangibles

The case for Starcraft: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13300223

Look for Ulti's analysis. Page 11 for those of you with 10 topics/page, beginning of page 3 for us with 50.

That pretty much sums it up. That is, if I didn't have a few things to add.

Sure, where PC draws indifference, X-Box is a lightning rod of hate. But need I remind you of what Ulti didn't, a very good 40% performance against Aeris? That shows that a lot of people will vote anything over X-Box, but a lot of people will vote X-Box over anything as well. That leaves a chaotic gray zone where anything can happen.

Second, the spamming. Battle.net has a lot more potential than X-Box Live when it comes to spamming. But will the people actually bother? I can understand coming here through a link from PGC or Pojo, but in the middle of a Starcraft session? I think not. Odds are, they'll have forgotten about that quickly, or you'll have to harrass them, in which case they won't be any more interested. And I don't know if I can extrapolate from Diablo 2, but if I can, then forget about massive interference for Starcraft. Same goes for Koreans, except they can't spell. This isn't meant to be insulting, I'm merely telling what I saw on D2 B.net.

But in the end, Starcraft still beats out Halo in pure potential. And that's what the "intangibles" category is all about, no?

- Advantage STARCRAFT.

Conclusion: This may be my longest preview yet, for a match that, from an overall point of view, isn't worth it. I mean, all this debate for one stinky point? Still, board peace hangs in the balance, as well as a perfect first round for the BOP.

Honestly, I don't know why I put Halo to win. It just looks wrong. But then I take a screenshot of my bracket, edit to "Starcraft", and it looks just as wrong.

On a final note, since MMX's QotD was somewhat of a let down, I'll just ask my own:

Do you think Halo is a worse 1-seed than Lara Croft or Pac-Man?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 4:22:34 PM | Message Detail
Over 86% now, looking better for OoT than earlier today.
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From: cyko | Posted: 4/26/2004 4:57:34 PM | Message Detail

cyko's Point of View

Match 25

(1) Halo vs. (16) Starcraft

this is already a tough match to call. what really puts it over the top though is that this is a 1 vs. 16 match! 1 vs. 16 matches are not supposed to be close. there's not even supposed to anything to discuss about them. in the past two contests, every 1 seed and 2 seed (except Crash Bandicoot) has made it to at least the Sweet 16 by winning it's first two matches. and even Crash won his first match easily. 16 seeds are supposed to be lunchmeat. the past 11 16-seeds have averaged a whole 18.62%. the highest any 16 seed has ever managed was 30.4% by the awesome Chop Chop Master Onion. and another thing that makes this match so unusual is that Starcraft really shouldn't even be in this division. it was released before Zelda:OOT, ya know. but, i digress......

of course, we know that Halo is just about it for X-Box. most people who have an X-Box also have Halo (except smitelf ...). so Halo has virtually every X-Box fan's vote. but how big exactly is Starcraft on the PC? well, normally, i wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in Gamespy's contest, but when it comes to PC games, they are a very PC oriented site. therefore, why don't we look at how well Starcraft did there.

in Gamespy's best game contest, Starcraft made it to the Sweet 16, barely losing to Diablo 2. if you take out the third game's votes (stupid extra life), Starcraft got 49.2% of the votes between it and Diablo 2. by comparison, Fallout 2 got 36% againt Diablo 2 and Star Wars KOTOR got 37% against Diablo 2. so, by comparison, Starcraft is well ahead of both Fallout 2 and KOTOR. so, as far as PC games go, Starcraft is up there with Half-Life, Doom, Diablo 2, Unreal Tournament, and Quake among PC gamers.

but here's where things get interesting: Diablo 2 scored exactly 39% against Half-Life in the Final Four there.
that means that using that one handy-dandy formula, Starcraft would roughly get 38.08% against Half-Life. but, in the Elite Eight, Halo got exactly 38% against Half-Life. so according to PC fans, Halo and Starcraft are virtually equal.

this is the one thing that hasn't been mentioned much that will put Halo over the top. Halo was also released on the PC as well as the X-Box, and it is about as popular among PC Gamers as Starcraft. so, while Halo will have an unhealthy chunk of anti-votes, Starcraft does not enjoy the full PC gamer support.

besides that, Halo's #1 seeding most likely gave it a huge bracket-vote advantage. there's that mental block of: "how could a 16-seed win? no way, even if it Starcraft." not only did Halo probably get more brackets on it's side, but it also most likely has more brcakets taking it far into the contest, considering how far so many people took Master Cheif did last year.

and if you believe that bracket-voters don't matter, then take another look at last year's DK vs. Vercetti match. on this board, most of the posts defending DK claimed: "how can you not vote for DK?! he's a gaming legend!! if not for DK, there'd be no Mario!!" what did you here in Vercetti's defense? "come on, Vercetti, my bracket needs those two points!!" very few people cared about their love for Vercetti. it was still early enough in the contest where points still mattered and most people could still win, so they wanted those two points. Vercetti was the favorite out of it's four-pack with 53.42% of the brackets and he only won by 968 votes. in a match that close (and considering what people were saying on the boards about voting for their brackets), those bracket voters decided the match.

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Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people
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From: cyko | Posted: 4/26/2004 4:58:14 PM | Message Detail


take the bracket voters for what you will, but most people haven't abandoned their brackets yet, so it is at least a slight advantage. and in a matchup this close, every slight advantage helps. and besides that, you cannot deny that Halo is just as popular among PC gamers as Starcraft. all seedings, brackets, outside sites, and anti-votes aside; that is what will kill Starcraft. that is why i put Halo in my bracket. it'll still be close, especially with the anti-X-Box hatred so strong here. but i don't believe that it will be enough. i won't be shocked if Starcraft pulls off the ultimate upset, but i find it very unlikely.


prediction: Halo with 52-56%

my bracket: Halo

personal favorite: Starcraft
- i haven't played Starcraft to a great extent, but i've never been a real big fan of FPS. several of my friends are huge Halo fans, so i have played it. but, i don't see what the fuss is all about. the co-op multiplayer is pretty awesome. and i like the vehicles they throw in there. besides that, though, i don't see what all the fuss is about. as far as Starcraft goes, the little i have played, i have thoroughly enjoyed. i could totally get into it if i had a gaming quality PC.

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Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people
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From: Tarrot | Posted: 4/26/2004 5:53:17 PM | Message Detail
Assuming you`re Tai, you aren`t right at all. OOT does not and will not receive 90% of the votes come the end of the match.

No, I said I was right about it not getting 90%. Look up my post saying that Zelda wouldn't get 90%, and people swarming to tell me I'm wrong.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/26/2004 5:54:42 PM | Message Detail
No, I said I was right about it not getting 90%. Look up my post saying that Zelda wouldn't get 90%, and people swarming to tell me I'm wrong.

I apologize, I was reading into a different post at a totally different angle. I`m glad that OOT is doing this, to be honest. I`d like to see at least a mild threat to FF7.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 5:56:02 PM | Message Detail
I`d like to see it take down FFVII.
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From: smitelf | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:22:14 PM | Message Detail
I`d like to see it take down FFVII.

Yeah, and I'd like to see Tetris take down Chrono Trigger. Neither of us will get our wish.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:23:44 PM | Message Detail
Neither? One of us could, the other can`t. ^_~ I`m still confident in OoT taking down FFVII.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:26:05 PM | Message Detail
I`d rather see SSBM take down FF7. The orgasm stains would literally take days to cleanh up.
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From: smitelf | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:27:12 PM | Message Detail
Neither? One of us could, the other can`t. ^_~ I`m still confident in OoT taking down FFVII.

And I'm even more confident that it won't considering the current results of today's match.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:31:41 PM | Message Detail
And I'm even more confident that it won't considering the current results of today's match.

I don`t think Ocarina of Time did that bad today, it did roughly 1% better than FFVII did. I`d be one to say that Suikoden II > Fallout 2 but when the match comes around I still think Ocarina of Time will be the victor. I`d rather at least see a couple more matches before coming to a conclusion and even with that when the match comes along I`m pulling and rooting for Ocarina of Time to make it out of there. Basically what I`m saying is, despite the performances of the two unless FFVII just completely mauls everything and makes it so that OoT stands little chance of winning is when I might consider saying otherwise. Until then, I`m one person who likes to see the match play out in its entirety before saying, "I guess OoT can`t win."

Dunno, that`s just me. I`ve always been that way.
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From: redline15 | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:31:51 PM | Message Detail
...is it just me, or has zelda gained in percentage in almost every update?

has anything else done this...?
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From: Garsha | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:32:34 PM | Message Detail
Ain't someone gonna archive the last topic?
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Points: 23/23/192
My pick for today:
(2)Zelda: Ocarina of Time over (15)Fallout 2 - Tomorrow: (1)Halo over (16)Starcraft
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:32:49 PM | Message Detail
OoT has improved about 3% since this morning, but so far yeah its been gaining small percentages every update.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:33:34 PM | Message Detail
I'm confident that THIS MATCH IS A TOTAL CRAPSHOOT considering the result of today's match.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 019/023 --- Matches: 19/23 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: OoT
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:37:57 PM | Message Detail
www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx? <SPACE> FN=sc-general&T=64521&P=1&ReplyCount=10#post64521

Uh oh. Starcraft fans outside of the site DON'T CARE. Danger.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:40:06 PM | Message Detail
I found that hilarious. ;P
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From: smitelf | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:44:02 PM | Message Detail
Uh oh. Starcraft fans outside of the site DON'T CARE. Danger.

Does *anyone* outside this site care? If they do then they're sadder than we are. I never expected a Battle.net or Korean invasion -- Starcraft will or will not win based on the normal traffic that comes to this site just like with any other match, save the rancid, cheating Mario (and this is from someone who doesn't even like Chrono Trigger).
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:46:55 PM | Message Detail
But many picked Starcraft on the basis that there might be a B.net/Korean invasion. If it doesn't happen, it's essentially screwed... it'll have to rely on anti-votes alone. Though that didn't prevent Xenogears from pulling through.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:49:20 PM | Message Detail
There are more than enough English-speaking American Starcraft fans for it to win this match.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:51:22 PM | Message Detail
We're not talking only ethnicity, we're talking location on the Internet. What tells you these folks on B.net AREN'T English-speaking Americans?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:52:29 PM | Message Detail
I just got finished a couple of b.net matches, and I can promise you that gamefaqs.com is not the only site to know about this contest. People are aware of it all over the place, though there are an odd number of people on b.net who actually like Halo, too. It`s quite interesting.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:55:57 PM | Message Detail
Well, as it stands OoT may still look like it's in a good possition, but it probably isn't. Next round i tcould get a real good run for its money and not even break 60%, but FF7 will probably take another 80/20 or so victory. In addition, I'd be willing to bet that Sui2 could murder Fallout 2 here on GameFAQs. The possition doesn't look so great for OoT, and FF7 will probably walk right over it like everything else. I'd call it a blitzkrieg, but FF7 isn't even putting any effort into its easy blowouts. It'll just casually walk up to each opponent and thump 'em on the head while it keeps on walkin'.
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From: creativename | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:58:58 PM | Message Detail
But many picked Starcraft on the basis that there might be a B.net/Korean invasion. If it doesn't happen, it's essentially screwed... it'll have to rely on anti-votes alone.

Why do you think this? It is easy to imagine Starcraft being more popular than Halo on GameFAQs. If it wins that hardly is a sure indication of external forces at play.

Though that didn't prevent Xenogears from pulling through

Xenogears didn't rely on anti-votes, unless by anti-votes you mean lack of popularity for Pokemon. Xenogears is, needless to say, very popular among RPG gamers.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/26/2004 6:59:17 PM | Message Detail
Walk right through it? I don`t think anything could just "walk right through" Ocarina of Time. Again, I`d like to see more than just a first round match before saying either has the match. As for the next round, Ocarina of Time is facing a Mario game so it getting around 60% isn`t exactly bad. I mean, SM64 compared to Xenogears? Not to hard to figure out which of the two is significantly stronger. So, really I`m looking to see more than just a round or two before calling something especially a match between two games as big as Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/26/2004 9:01:24 PM | Message Detail
Match #23 Review:

Yet another yawner.

Match #25 Preview:

Ah, now this is what I'm talking about...to quote Snow-err, Slowflake, "It could be the closest match in contest history. It could be a total anticlimax. Either way, it's impossible to predict the winner before the poll opens."

I don't think a preview from me is really necessary, given the gigantic behemoth that Ulti posted. I'll just leave you with that quote and return for tomorrow's match.
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From: redline15 | Posted: 4/26/2004 10:57:48 PM | Message Detail
*sees starcraft bandwagon topics taking up half of the first page*

...starcraft is doomed, isn't it...
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/26/2004 10:58:45 PM | Message Detail
Probably so. Either way, it's part of Alucard's plan.
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From: creativename | Posted: 4/26/2004 11:00:53 PM | Message Detail
I am in complete shock that we are going to lose our simple, effective, fast site layout for...for...this...

http://flexibeta.gamespot.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=314159386

There's nothing we do can to stop it now, but it would be nice if people here could sign the petition someone started against this:
http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=7&topic=13808748

This is going to suck. I really do love this layout. It's not just a question of "people don't like change", it's that this layout is so superior to that one, which too is "standard internet message board".

You've been hearing a lot of complaints about, shall we say, the "direction" of this site lately, but up until this I didn't really mind. Even my annoyance at the ads lowering the vote counts wasn't that big. This, however, is serious.

<sighs> Well, Ocarina of Time's performance has been improving a lot, and it should end up around 86.25%. There's enough uncertainty on how Fallout 2 and Suikoden II relate to each other that this match didn't really tell us that much about Ocarina of Time vs. Final Fantasy VII.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/26/2004 11:02:17 PM | Message Detail
Damn that's ugly. I hope that takes awhile to get into place.
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From: creativename | Posted: 4/26/2004 11:59:42 PM | Message Detail
Starcraft with the lead, 3 updates in. 54.73% vs. 45.27%, 1175 to 972. Any maybe it's just me, but the board doesn't appear to be going all that crazy or anything.

For the sake of information, the following Division 32-64 games were released before Starcraft:

Final Fantasy VII: 8/31/1997
Final Fantasy: Tactics: 12/31/1997
Resident Evil: 1/31/1996
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night: 9/30/1997
Goldeneye: 7/31/1997
Super Mario 64: 8/31/1996
NiGHTS into dreams...: 8/31/1996

So 43.75% of the 32-64 bit Division came out before Starcraft, which was released on 2/28/1998. (release dates according to GameRankings)
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From: chaos knight | Posted: 4/27/2004 12:00:10 AM | Message Detail
Could this match actually be the one that strikes down the perfection of the BOP? I'm kind of surprised about how this is going so far, heh.
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From: creativename | Posted: 4/27/2004 12:01:46 AM | Message Detail
Never mind, I spoke too soon. The board appears to be going kinda nuts now that we've passed the midnight GameFAQs time mark.
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From: redline15 | Posted: 4/27/2004 12:03:31 AM | Message Detail
Starcraft with the lead, 3 updates in. 54.73% vs. 45.27%, 1175 to 972. Any maybe it's just me, but the board doesn't appear to be going all that crazy or anything.

well...the place was just filled with starcraft bandwagon topics.
maybe in the morning.
...of course, with the way this contest has been going...halo could be winning in the morning...

as for the game release dates, that's kind of...depressing.
were any 128 division games released before starcraft?
...besides half life...?
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From: creativename | Posted: 4/27/2004 12:39:22 AM | Message Detail
were any 128 division games released before starcraft?
...besides half life...?


Half-Life was released afterwards, actually, according to both this site and GameRankings.

128 Division Release Dates:
1) Starcraft - 02/28/1998
2) Half-Life - 10/31/1998
3) Soul Calibur - 09/08/1999
4) Shenmue - 11/06/2000
5) Skies of Arcadia - 11/13/2000
6) Metal Gear Solid 2 - 11/12/2001
7) Halo: Combat Evolved - 11/14/2001
8) Super Smash Bros. Melee - 12/02/2001
9) Final Fantasy X - 12/17/2001
10) Kingdom Hearts - 09/16/2002
11) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - 10/27/2002
12) Metroid Prime - 11/17/2002
13) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 03/24/2003
14) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - 07/17/2003
15) Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - 09/08/2003
16) Fire Emblem - 11/03/2003
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/27/2004 3:52:46 AM | Message Detail
Now that`s just flat-out disturbing.
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From: The Irish Crippler | Posted: 4/27/2004 4:05:49 AM | Message Detail
nods and agrees
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