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| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:03:30 AM | Message Detail |
| *** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #22 - (3) GOLDENEYE vs. (14) PANZER DRAGOON SAGA *** Sales Goldeneye is the N64's second top seller, right behind SM64. PDS has... has... um... from what I hear, it's in the five digits. - Advantage GOLDENEYE. Franchises The name's PDS. Not PDS. - Advantage GOLDENEYE. GameFAQs Status Number of FAQs: Goldeneye Number of reviews: Goldeneye Average review score: Goldeneye Board activity: Goldeneye Okay, so Goldeneye may crash and burn here against Perfect Dark... but PDS is NOT Perfect Dark. Chalk up another one for Bond. - Advantage GOLDENEYE BOARD ODDS PROJECT PICKS (out of 102) Goldeneye - 101 Panzer Dragoon Saga - 1 POINT VALUE 17. Goldeneye - 255 50. Panzer Dragoon Saga - 3 Forget the fact that Goldeneye is the weakest of the "yellows", and thing about the fact that sticking your nose in the BangFang Triangle is about as painful as sticking your wang in a blender. - Advantage GOLDENEYE. Summer Contests / Polls of the Day There might have been a PotD with Goldeneye involved, but I've never seen it. James Bond isn't eligible for the Summer Contests for obvious reasons, so that's another question mark right there. But not against PDS. Please. - UNAVAILABLE - just to be fair. Intangibles Ummm... nothing, except that Goldeneye launched the big bandwagon of console FPSes. And while voters usually don't care about how revolutionary a game was, at least they HEARD of Goldeneye. And that's all that matters. - Advantage GOLDENEYE. Conclusion: ... I AM INVINCIBLE!!! *is frozen by exploding tanks of liquid nitrogen* --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 016/020 --- Matches: 16/20 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SotN |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:22:37 AM | Message Detail |
| Match Review: Metal Gear Solid vs. Resident Evil And here we have a solid 70% victory for MGS, as expected. The results of this match lead me to believe that MGS will emerge victorious in its second round match against FFT; its opponent was much stronger than DDR and it only ended up with 6% less than FFT did. My bracket and I are quite satisfied. Match Preview: Goldeneye vs. Panzer Dragoon Saga Goldeneye: This is the most popular FPS ever. It was a big seller on the N64 and even on this site it is appreciated. Panzer Dragoon Saga: A game that is not nearly as well known as Goldeneye and is on a Sega system. Sega hasn't been faring well around here and this game certainly has no chance to survive against the likes of Goldeneye. Two new games coming out that I've been waiting for AND Halo vs. Starcraft...Tuesday rocks and all the days in between suck because they are in Tuesday's way, and that couldn't be more true than for this match. Goldeneye vs. PDS will be the first of a three day period of blowouts before The Match To End All Matches. Can I just hibernate until Tuesday? My prediction: Goldeneye 90%, PDS 10% --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 18/19, Next Winner: Metal Gear Solid |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:24:10 AM | Message Detail |
| This is the most popular FPS ever. I'd just like to belatedly add "on GameFAQs" to that comment. I don't know enough about the FPS scene to call it the most popular FPS *anywhere*. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 18/19, Next Winner: Metal Gear Solid |
| From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/23/2004 10:25:56 AM | Message Detail |
| Yeah,
Goldeye worth about $1 is fair, Panzer Dragoon Saga always going for
over $100 on ebay though... hmm. Guess if we were going by quality of
game that'd also be fair. Yes, a port would be nice, but a port to PS2
is what I'd want. --- If all Christians acted like Christ, the whole world would be Christian. - Gandhi I like the 'CastlevaniaPOWNEDPerfectDark' Weapon! - SeikenDensetsuIII |
| From: Psycho Kensou | Posted: 4/23/2004 10:58:37 AM | Message Detail |
| Oh yeah, how are our gurus looking now that only divine intervention could possibly save Perfect Dark? Mind you I neither believe in the divine nor do I believe even god is powerful enough to turn the tides assuming he even exists. |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/23/2004 11:00:53 AM | Message Detail |
| Didn't our gurus mostly pick SotN? --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 016/020 --- Matches: 16/20 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SotN |
| From: Psycho Kensou | Posted: 4/23/2004 11:02:24 AM | Message Detail |
| Mostly, yes, but I think it was like 86%. This will certainly be the last mix up in the standings until Halo/Starcraft. |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/23/2004 11:51:38 AM | Message Detail |
| Yes, a port would be nice, but a port to PS2 is what I'd want. Works for me, ChichiriMuyo :) --- SC2K4: 21/24! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/23/2004 11:56:24 AM | Message Detail |
| Sticking
your wang in a blender doesn`t hurt if the blender is actually off. The
blender not being on was not implied by your post, therefore I was let
off scott free once I tested your theory. My nose, however, will need
surgery. If the BOP does end up being perfect, I may have to follow Ulti's advice. Spread misinformation in the next contest. Exactly. People are so quick to spread their opinions, and it`s stupid. It reduces your chances of winning when you get everyone else`s bracket to look like yours. I promise you all that I`ll be spreading nothing but lies once these "Help me with my bracket" topics start popping up come the summer. ....or will I? Maybe I`m telling the truth, but only pretending like I`m lying. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/23/2004 11:59:02 AM | Message Detail |
| If ya need help making your bracket at all...then u are not a real gamer. Anyone who dares call themselves an elite will never need help! If some noob seeks the Light of Illumina to guide them to tourney enlightenment...well, they will have to pay me tribute 1st! Meanwhile..back to my Halo/Starcraft commentary...this one must be written perfectly for release on Monday morning! --- SC2K4: 21/24! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/23/2004 1:39:00 PM | Message Detail |
| Match #20 Review: MGS performed better than I expected, which simply sets in stone its Round 2 victory against FFT. Match #22 Preview: Goldeneye wins easily. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/23/2004 1:41:25 PM | Message Detail |
| PDS has... has... um... from what I hear, it's in the five digits. Actually, it's even less than that. I don't think PDS' sales exceeded 6,000 copies in North America. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/23/2004 1:42:29 PM | Message Detail |
| Well, then on the first day everyone could be like... "Haha! Fooled you! I picked Starcraft!" "Oh yeah? Well I picked Halo! PWNED!" Imagine the mayhem... this topic would be full of lies and stuff like that. Wait a minute, it sounds like I'm forgetting something important. What could it be? Oh yeah, I got it. . . . . . . . . This post was brought to you by Final Fantasy XI. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 016/020 --- Matches: 16/20 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SotN |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/23/2004 1:43:54 PM | Message Detail |
| But I wouldn't be surprised if it got more votes than that. I mean, some people must have nominated it! --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 016/020 --- Matches: 16/20 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SotN |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/23/2004 1:55:12 PM | Message Detail |
| But I wouldn't be surprised if it got more votes than that. I mean, some people must have nominated it! Any extra votes it gets will be for pity or from people who hate Goldeneye. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 19/20, Next Winner: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/23/2004 1:55:41 PM | Message Detail |
| Oh, and that last post was brought to you by Final Fantasy XI, by the way. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 19/20, Next Winner: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night |
| From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 4/23/2004 2:22:17 PM | Message Detail |
| *sigh*
Does anyone else remember when CJay used to change the main page's
color scheme, put up a big ugly new logo, have a company sponsored Poll
of the Day... And it would just be a joke? [
http://utenti.lycos.it/rikihunter/shiver/main/gameFAX.htm ] And we
would laugh and say, oh CJay, haha, you sure had me for a minute, I
should have known you'd never sell out like this! I mean, I'm sorry, and I don't complain very easily, but... this really sucks. To pull all of this on us right in the middle of what ought to be a fun Contest like this. I mean, ruining the vote totals with sponsored ads is one thing, but how are we expected to get accurate match results when the first thing every voter sees is a big advertisement for Final Fantasy. This had really better not last more than the standard 5 to 7 days that these sponsored POTDs have been going. So, in short, CJay just lost all the points he had earned for that clever April Fools this year. And he's going to continue losing a point every day that stats page doesn't come up. He can spend all afternoon messing around with uglying up the site, but he can't take an hour to get online what 40,000 of us have been waiting almost a month for now? Oh, and Contest stuff, um... Sure hope the results update sometime this week. But I'm sure CJay has more important things to be worrying about- after all, only 80,000 people care who wins today. This post brought to you by Final Fantasy XI! No, really, I couldn't have written this without it. --- the-elite.net Guru Rankings: geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/ContestGurus.xls The Contest Archives: http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/23/2004 2:53:26 PM | Message Detail |
| I actually like the new layout a lot. The color scheme I mean. But since only the front page is like that, it's only temporary. Exactly. People are so quick to spread their opinions, and it`s stupid. It reduces your chances of winning when you get everyone else`s bracket to look like yours. I promise you all that I`ll be spreading nothing but lies once these "Help me with my bracket" topics start popping up come the summer. I hope you're not being serious, because spreading disinformation is a terrible thing to do. I find the concept offensive. The next two matches should give us some insight into how Mario 64 and Goldeneye relate to each other. I'm guessing that Panzer Dragoon Saga and NiGHTs would be about the same strength. Maybe PDS would be slightly stronger because it has the cooler name ("Dragoon" is a widely recognized RPG term, and extremely weak entrants might have to rely on stuff like that). If Goldeneye performs almost the same against PDS as Mario 64 does against NiD, it might very well be roughly its equal in strength. That would be interesting given Mario's strength at this site and the lack of love for FPS's, but I think it's possible. I could see Goldeneye getting as low as 72%, or as high as 91%. I'm leaning more towards the high side. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/23/2004 2:56:41 PM | Message Detail |
| I`m
thinking Super Mario 64 is going to prove to be stronger than
Goldeneye. I mean, Goldeneye is Goldeneye and everything but this is
friggin` Mario, but on a high note both of them should get high percentages in their respective matches. --- Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End Do you have what it takes to rescue the Mushroom Princess? |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/23/2004 2:57:14 PM | Message Detail |
| You
should add a "least impressive winners" and a "least popular matches"
section that doesn't take the extra polls into account. Just a
suggestion. with all of the extra polls, i might just have to. =( If the BOP does end up being perfect, I may have to follow Ulti's advice. Spread misinformation in the next contest. lol, no kidding, Starion. maybe not spread misinformation, but at least save the expert analysis for after the brackets are closed to change. cyko's Point of View Match 22 (3) Goldeneye 007 vs. (14) Panzer Dragoon Saga fun fact of the match - PDS was one of the first FAQS CJayC himself posted here on Gamefaqs. maybe that's the real reason it made the contest....... >_> so......... how big of a blowout will this be tomorrow? let's do the math. yay!! math time!!! about 6000 copies of PDS were released in America and none in Europe. (i didn't look for Japanese numbers since Japanese voters don't seem to play much of a factor. maybe i'm wrong.) let's say that on average, each person who owns PDS has a friend that they let play their copy of PDS all the way through. 6000 x 2 = 12000 okay, so that's about 12000 people who played a real copy of PDS. now, let's go out on a limb here. supposedly, everyone who's played PDS thinks it is absolutely awesome. so, we will assume that all 12,000 people who played the game love it. let's go even further out on that limb and assume that all 12000 of those people come to GameFAQS regularly and will vote tomorrow. that's 12000 votes. lately with these extra polls, we've gotten around 75000 total votes to a match *grabs calculator* 12000 / 75000 = 0.16 or 16% that means that the best percentage PDS should be able to get is 16%. there is no good reason why Goldeneye should do any worse. i already think SotN has a shot at Goldeneye, but if it gets under 84%, i will be quite disappointed in 007. prediction: Goldeneye 007 with 83-86% my bracket: Goldeneye 007 personal favorite: Goldeneye 007 - i actually have played PDS. once. a long time ago. for about ten minutes. unfortunately it wasn't long enough for me to remember it well. i had a friend i worked with who was a huge Saturn fanboy and he brought it in one day to show this game to the rest of us that he thought was incredible. that's all i remember about it. --- Current Score: 18/20 (through MGS vs RE) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/23/2004 4:20:06 PM | Message Detail |
| [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/23/2004 4:20:54 PM | Message Detail |
| smitelf: Looks like Ceej has screwed up another contest poll. Agent Smith: Never send a human to do a machine's job. smitelf:...? Agent Smith: Surprised to see me? smitelf: Uh, yeah, I am. Hey, you're familiar with the system, right? How long until we start seeing pop-up ads COVERING the contest poll, just to make it harder to vote? Agent Smith: It is inevitable. smitelf: I thought so. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 19/20, Next Winner: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/23/2004 4:37:56 PM | Message Detail |
| maybe not spread misinformation, but at least save the expert analysis for after the brackets are closed to change. Okay, that`s what I`ll do then. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: nifboy | Posted: 4/23/2004 4:43:19 PM | Message Detail |
| All
I can say is, if Ceej pulls something like this during the finals, the
kids who keep thinking the tiebreaker is the number of *brackets* with
the correct winner are the ones who will come closest. --- "We seek as much data - raw facts, direct experience - as we can, and then we make up our own minds." - J. Moore |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/23/2004 5:16:46 PM | Message Detail |
| Okay, that`s what I`ll do then. Good for you ;) <*gives Ulti a beer for not selling out to self-interest based utility theory*> --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: Tai | Posted: 4/23/2004 5:17:27 PM | Message Detail |
| If the BOP does end up being perfect, I may have to follow Ulti's advice. Spread misinformation in the next contest. ....If that happens, I'll vomit. O_O' --- Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai. |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/23/2004 6:58:54 PM | Message Detail |
| My post could have been a lie, you know. ~_^ --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/23/2004 7:59:08 PM | Message Detail |
| PAGING: UltimaterializerX Do you happen to have those SC2003 analyses that you did last year uploaded onto a webpage anywhere? If so, please link me to 'em. Thanks. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| From: Haste2 | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:01:05 PM | Message Detail |
| Well,
what I said was owned (I said there waas NO way PD could catch up), and
I am stunned, as well. This easily rivals, if doesn't BEAT, the catchup
that Duck Hunt got against Donkey Kong. Let's see how close PD can get
to victory. Well, I told you yesterday that PD was no cakewalk, so in
that way I wasn't owned :P Looking forward to Super Mario 64 vs. NiGHTS...I do expect another 85ish % victory, like Goldeneye. However, it's interesting that this game was seeded HIGHER than PDS (plus, a 10 seed isn't so bad...), which kinda surprises me. Is PDS that weak, or is NiGHTS a little stronger than we thought? I'd think the PDS fans would be more dilligent to their game... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| From: MrGuru | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:11:32 PM | Message Detail |
| Okay, so Goldeneye may crash and burn here against Perfect Dark... but PDS is NOT Perfect Dark. Chalk up another one for Bond. I really, REALLY hope you didn't mean that if faced against one another, Goldeneye would lose to Perfect Dark. Please tell me you meant something else. --- the-elite.net Pissing away 20 hours to gain one more second is the thing we do best. - ST The Pope? How many divisions has he got? - Stalin 19/20 |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:12:53 PM | Message Detail |
| I`m actually eyeing around the 90% area for the SM64 match. --- Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End Do you have what it takes to rescue the Mushroom Princess? |
| From: Leonhart4 | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:16:22 PM | Message Detail |
| Just
a question out of curiosity: What would the percentages need to be for
each match in order for Mario 64 to stand a reasonable chance of
beating Ocarina of Time? I know it probably ain't gonna happen, but I
want to see if it at least has a chance to stay close. --- Spring Contest 2004: 19/20 Today: (11)Symphony of the Night over (6)Perfect Dark |
| From: redline15 | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:18:27 PM | Message Detail |
| from mrguru: I really, REALLY hope you didn't mean that if faced against one another, Goldeneye would lose to Perfect Dark. Please tell me you meant something else. i believe slowflake was just talking about one part of his dissertation. saying perfect dark had better reviews and faqs and etcetera. he didn't say who he thought would win that match... --- signature (n.): a random bit of gibberish that no one ever reads. |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:18:34 PM | Message Detail |
| Super Mario 64 beating Ocarina of Time would be the
coolest thing in this contest but I would say it doesn`t need something
crazy to make it a close match. Beating it though is basically out of
the question. =\ --- Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End Do you have what it takes to rescue the Mushroom Princess? |
| From: MrGuru | Posted: 4/23/2004 9:58:21 PM | Message Detail |
| Match Preview - #22 GE vs PDS There is nothing really do review. I've never even heard of PDS, so Goldeneye will blow it out of the water. --- the-elite.net Pissing away 20 hours to gain one more second is the thing we do best. - ST The Pope? How many divisions has he got? - Stalin 19/20 |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/24/2004 4:21:47 AM | Message Detail |
| I
really, REALLY hope you didn't mean that if faced against one another,
Goldeneye would lose to Perfect Dark. Please tell me you meant
something else. I think it would be close enough. I doubt Goldeneye could run away with a five-digit lead. (That's an indirect comparison... SFF might just end up rearing its ugly head and give PD the win if it happened.) Especially with today's match. I know, we still have all day, but 77-23 against a game that sold 6000 copies in the US... it's probably just a sign that its loss to OoT might not even be respectable. But I'm still starting to worry about SotN. Another thing that's becoming increasingly obvious is that some competitors are able to gain much more percentage points throughout the day than in the past. In 2002 and 2003 an entry would get extremely lucky to be able to snag four percentage points throughout the day. We've seen that many times now... Duck Hunt, SMRPG, SotN... why just now? --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 016/020 --- Matches: 16/20 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SotN |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/24/2004 4:23:02 AM | Message Detail |
| Oh,
I see what you meant now. No, this wasn't in a performance comparison,
but by comparing using the "GameFAQs Status" criteria. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 016/020 --- Matches: 16/20 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SotN |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/24/2004 5:17:38 AM | Message Detail |
| I`m
glad Perfect Dark stayed dead even with SOTN after the CGI functions
underwent the hardware maintenance. This not only means that Perfect
Dark was still a pretty strong game, but that there is no way in the
bluest of all oblivions that Goldeneye could ever lose that match. I
mean theoretically SOTN already has a 4000 vote lead on it, but it`s
not like Goldeneye can`t make that up with ease. --- Boards Hunted: 4098 I would like to take this moment to politely and sincerely orgasm over Ulti's Halo/Starcraft analysis. -smitelf |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/24/2004 6:41:59 AM | Message Detail |
| Well here we go kiddies :) Time for... Steve Illumina Speaks Thats right, the infamous yet humorous commentary is back, to go with all the rest of us here in this, the greatest of threads, the most worthy of postings on this fanboy dominated board. And so it continues, as a King Rides On in the "Golden Age" Division Match XXIII (7)Super Mario 64 vs (10)Nights into Dreams Steve's Prediction: Mario by 89.9% Steve's Bracket: Mario Newbie's Pick: "Itsa me, Mario!" Upset Chances: Remember the Neptune! Hahaha! Give it up Sega! No chance here! Comments: Here we got an Icon riding off to do battle with an obscure culty campy niche title from a failed system that could have offered much more. The King of Platformers is on a roll...As he rides his steed Yoshi through the Mushroom Kingdom...traversing the Donut Plains on his way to the Princess' castle, he reflects on his legacy...where he has been...and where he is headed... Laughed at by Goombas and Cheep Cheeps across the land, Mario is still full of rage...feeling he is not getting the true proper respect he feels is warranted to him. Bearing the whole world of gaming on his back for many years, until a Japanese startup firm named Squaresoft was born and rose to glory, Mario feels slighted. And rightfully so. With the exception of the Pac...no Icon feels more underappreciated. So what did he do about it? Well, Mario stood up this winter and said..."Itsa me, Mario! I want me respect!" So he petitioned Lord Ceej for a new tourney to prove his worth...and his wish was granted...with 4 of his finest games given the chance to avenge his loss to Square badboy Sephy last year. The angry quest for revenge continues now...with Mario's greatest game, Mario 64, taking on a tourney placefiller in Nights. Nights does not belong here in this tourney. It is just another game...from a failed system...from a flawed nomination system...And a 10 seed no less? Please....Should have been #16. And Mario a 7 seed? We all know how Heroic Mario feels about that? :) Well I agree. Flawed flawed flawed, I tell ya! (mutters something about MK getting the shaft too...) Probable Results: Mario will blowout Nights very convincingly...over 85% is a sure thing, cause I venture to say Nights is more obscure on a general standpoint than Panzer Saga, even though it has the higher seed. And cause its facing Mario's best game. Yes even better than SMB3, so go put your Tanooki suits away! Steve's Moments: Mario: Pure magical gaming bliss this game is...who did not love tossing the Bomb-Omb King! Nights...its ok but it aint no Mario..or Sonic..or Bonk! --- SC2K4: 21/24! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/24/2004 6:49:36 AM | Message Detail |
| 77%
for Goldeneye? eww..... i know it will go up when the daytime vote
kicks in, but still...... this shows that sales numbers are seriously
not a factor. i was a little worried about SotN chances against
Goldeneye after yesterday's close match, but now it looks like SotN
does have a chance. cyko's Point of View Match 23 (7) Super Mario 64 vs. (10) Nights seriously, i still can't believe Mario 64 only got a 7 seed. the only two games in it's division that can beat it are OOT and FF7. and i'd be willing to bet that Nights is the weakest game in the division, even more than PDS. this is the match with the most screwed up seeding besides Halo vs. Starcraft. but, since i need some sort of proof to back up my blind reasonings allow me to paint a picture for you of the day each of these games came out. i worked at Best Buy in the video game department when each of these came out. Super Mario 64 was released on a Sunday, the same day the Nintendo 64 was released. people desperate to play this new 3-D game started gathering in front of the store a few hours before we opened. more people continued to arrive, so the customers got themselves in line in the order they got to the store, to be fair. an hour before we opened, there were about fifty people waiting to get their hands on the latest Mario game. you might argue that those people were there because of the new system. possibly, but Super Mario 64 was the reason why people wanted that system so badly. the only other N64 game released that day was Pilotwings 64, and let me tell ya, those people weren't there for Pilotwings. and not only were those people willing to stand in line for a couple of hours to get their game, but they were willing to shell out $250 just to play it ($200 for the system and $50 for the cartridge). and we sold out before the store was even open. and whenever we got more shipments for the next year, it sold out within a day or two (within a few hours for the first couple of months after it came out) and continued to sell well until the system died. Nights, on the other hand, was released around the same time as SM64. about a dozen copies showed up in our store. we sold about five or six copies the first day it was in our store and sold out of it in about a week. not bad for a Saturn game. but compared to Super Mario 64, noone cared. and now, today, how many people know what Super Mario 64 is and how many know what Nights is? this will be a blowout of epic proportions, possibly Mario's biggest blowout ever. he needs to beat 88.4% to beat his Captain Olimar mauling. and he might just get it here. prediction - Super Mario 64 with 86-90% my bracket - Super Mario 64 personal favorite - Super Mario 64 - even if i didn't believe that SM64 is one of the Top Five games of all time, i'd still pick it because Nights sucked. it was a boring game where you flew around in circles, collecting orbs. *yawn* excuse me while i fall asleep. *ssssssssssnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeee* --- Current Score: 22/24 (through OOT vs Fallout 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/24/2004 6:58:31 AM | Message Detail |
| Wow,
I'm surprised. I thought Goldeneye's lead would be a lot more
convincing. GameFAQs is even more cultish than I would have given it
credit for, even AFTER Xenogears. Over 20% for a game that sold a few
thousand copies in the U.S.? Okaaaay then. Maybe people just don't like
FPS around here? Still, this is Goldeneye we're talking about...I'm
horribly confused as to how PDS is doing so well. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 19/20, Next Winner: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/24/2004 7:01:41 AM | Message Detail |
| I
too am surprised by PDS showing. I say its a combo of sympathy votes,
Sega diehards, peeps who cant stand FPS period, peeps who played the
latest Panzer on the Xbox and genuine fans of the game from the few
thousand who do own it or ever played it. I also think Nights wont get this many votes either. --- SC2K4: 21/24! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: Tai | Posted: 4/24/2004 7:01:44 AM | Message Detail |
| As long as Goldeneye pwns PDS, which it should and will, I don't give a [ ]. --- Welcome to SpC2k4, where you suck if you presume someone else's opinions.- Tai. |
| From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 4/24/2004 7:06:44 AM | Message Detail |
| This
isn't surprising at all. PDS is widely considered the best Saturn game,
and also respected by many RPG diehards. I actually find 80% a very
good showing for GoldenEye, which looks likely at this rate. --- Contest Score: 21-0 Next Pick : GE |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/24/2004 7:12:40 AM | Message Detail |
| This
isn't surprising at all. PDS is widely considered the best Saturn game,
and also respected by many RPG diehards. I actually find 80% a very
good showing for GoldenEye, which looks likely at this rate. I still think it's mental for a game that sold so few copies to be putting up this kind of fight against one of the best selling N64 titles, regardless of how good it is. It shows just how insanely niche this site is, to levels I would never have conceived of previously. On the other hand, people could just hate the FPS genre, but Perfect Dark did relatively well yesterday. Maybe Goldeneye in particular has more haters than I imagined. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 19/20, Next Winner: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night |
| From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/24/2004 7:15:14 AM | Message Detail |
| I've
almost given up trying to analyse this contest. PDS getting over 10-12%
is a shock for me, based on the sales figures I've been hearing. Add to
that the fact I've been a fair way off on a lot of the other recent
matches, I'll just wait until Rd 2 I think. The 8 and 16 bit divisions
I'm a lot more familiar with the games, so I have a better idea about
how that'll turn out. Maybe people are getting PDS confused with some other game. Dunno. It's put in a good performance anyway. --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13763811 20/22 Next: SM64 |
| From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 4/24/2004 7:20:42 AM | Message Detail |
| I
don't know. If you were expecting GE to put up a decent fight against
OoT(35%+), I guess this is dissapointing. This just confirms that FPS
genre is really weak, console FPS games included. I guess GoldenEye is
the only FPS game that can beat a mid-tier game like SoTN. --- Contest Score: 21-0 Next Pick : GE |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/24/2004 7:26:37 AM | Message Detail |
| Maybe people are getting PDS confused with some other game. Dunno. It's put in a good performance anyway. Only three things really come to my mind that explain PDS' performance... 1. People are confusing it with the other three Panzer Dragoon games (the most likely occurance.) 2. While the game sold only 6,000 copies in NA, I imagine it did respectfully in Japan, what with the huge success of the Saturn over there. Perhaps some hardcore gamers heard all of the massive praise about the game and imported it. After all, anyone who knows anything about the Saturn knows that a ton of the system's best games are Japan-only. It's possible, I guess. 3. Some drunk/blind/reading-impaired mistook PDS for some other game with "dragoon" or "dragon" in the title. Not very likely. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/24/2004 7:55:36 AM | Message Detail |
| Whoever said sales didn't matter... you're right. Conker's Bad Fur Day sold in the five digits, yet YOSHI failed to double him. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 017/021 --- Matches: 17/21 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Goldeneye |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/24/2004 8:00:55 AM | Message Detail |
| Whoever said sales didn't matter... you're right. Conker's Bad Fur Day sold in the five digits, yet YOSHI failed to double him. That's because Conker had already appeared in two other games: Diddy Kong Racing and Conker's Pocket Tales. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
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