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| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:06:48 PM | Message Detail |
| Ewww.
I never expected FF7's percentage to rise this much. And look at the
vote total! We will break 100000 for the first time in this contest...
on a weekend poll. Zelda couldn't do that on weekdays. All of a sudden
I'm glad I got FF7 to win it all... our only hope is OoT at this point. *crosses fingers* --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 012/016 --- Matches: 12/16 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF7 |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:21:33 PM | Message Detail |
| Yeah,
I mentioned that earlier. Despite the slowest day of the week for vote
turnouts, FF7 is still going to have one hell of a large number. That`s
truly amazing when you really look at it. And smitelf`s been a bad girl, hasn`t she? She`s going to get served tomorrow, she is :) --- MIASU! I think im going to mark this topic for being too intelligent for GameFAQs. -Tulidian |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:23:05 PM | Message Detail |
| Hmm...I
think it's safe to say that Chrono Trigger vs. Final Fantasy VII, if it
were to occur, would lean significantly in favor of the latter,
considering Final Fantasy VII's current state in the polls and CT's own
lackluster results. Still, I wouldn't say this is a heavy victory for
Final Fantasy VII; I was expecting slightly more but I'm not overly let
down by the current results. It was probably more of a question of
underestimating Suikoden II than overestimating FFVII. Against Ocarina of Time, who knows how FFVII will do? We'll have to wait and see at the end of the division how much of a heavyweight OoT really is. I'll tell you one thing, though: Suikoden II > Fallout 2 on this site, so if OoT can't get a couple percentage points higher than what FFVII is pulling right now then it's in trouble. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 16/16, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VII |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:25:16 PM | Message Detail |
| Actually I'm pretty confident in OoT after LttP totally made my jaw drop. Where would you set the bar for OoT if it wants to have a chance to beat FF7? I'd say 88%. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 012/016 --- Matches: 12/16 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF7 |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:25:56 PM | Message Detail |
| I`m still seeing OoT break 90% without much trouble. --- Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End "Okay... first the crying... THEN the rage!" - Link |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:28:44 PM | Message Detail |
| I would not be the least bit surprised if OOT smashed Fallout 2 to bits and scored in the mid-90 range. --- MIASU! I think im going to mark this topic for being too intelligent for GameFAQs. -Tulidian |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:29:57 PM | Message Detail |
| C'mon, Fallout 2 is no Gunstar Heroes. OoT can't be that much stronger than LttP... --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 012/016 --- Matches: 12/16 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF7 |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:34:24 PM | Message Detail |
| OoT?
There`s no doubt in my mind OoT will break 90% but if it goes to
mid-90`s I`ll do a little dance, that would just send FFVII away. =P Though I can see OoT being significantly stronger than LttP, much like FFVII to FFVI but not as big a gap. --- Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End "Okay... first the crying... THEN the rage!" - Link |
| From: HydraCores | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:42:31 PM | Message Detail |
| Um....
While I would say that OOT is a bit stronger than LttP, Fallout 2 is
much stronger than Gunstar Heroes.... No way OOT can get mid 90s... I
think.... --- The World will end in Fire, Ice, or Thunder. Depends on which one of my heads manages to eliminate the others.... |
| From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 4/18/2004 3:50:29 PM | Message Detail |
| Based
on how the match is currently going, the total votes is likly going to
be about 111500 with Cloud's total being 95600. That breaks the old
record for highest individual vote total which was 94086 held by Cloud
against CATS. --- ''Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts...'' ''All dreams are but another reality. Never forget...'' |
| From: Haste2 | Posted: 4/18/2004 4:00:00 PM | Message Detail |
| Xenogears
isn't near as obscure as Gunstar Heroes or River City Ransom, believe
me...and I'm certain it's more well-known than Suikoden II. With this
in mind, that means Xenogears would probably get 15% or more against
FF7. What scares me is that Pokemon RBY got 12% against Zelda: OoT at
Gamespy, I believe. If that could happen here, then I think
Xenogears has the match won. Of course, Pikachu got 20% against Cloud
in the 2002 character contest, so I don't see any reason that Pokemon
GSC could get at least close to 20% against FF7 in a game contest. I'm a bit surprised that everyone's picking Pokemon GSC now...I'd love Pokemon to win to give me hope for 31/32 in R1, but I'd feel really bad for Slowflake. :( --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| From: NeoElfboy | Posted: 4/18/2004 4:01:53 PM | Message Detail |
| *de-lurks* Gunstar Heroes is in the running for one of the weakest games in the entire contest, to be frank. I'd take anything's performance against it with a grain of salt. On FF6 vs. LttP... I think people are jumping the gun a bit here. I'm not at all convinced that LttP will make it past Super Metroid. Maybe I'm misjudging the GameFAQs fanbase badly (which is possible), but... Super Metroid is a higher seed, considered a better game in its franchise than LttP (which is generally in OoT's shadow), and seems to be just generally a more-respected game (see: the 'Best Game of All Time' hype it seems to manage). Yeah, I know Link > Samus, but I wouldn't overgeneralise that. All the evidence seems to make SM a slight favourite if anything; to blindly assume it will lose seems foolish. It is a good match though... which is why I have FF6 making it to the division finals. Simply because at least we're sure it'll make it to round 3. |
| From: redline15 | Posted: 4/18/2004 4:42:24 PM | Message Detail |
| neoelfboy is officially the coolest person in this topic. --- signature (n.): a random bit of gibberish that no one ever reads. |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/18/2004 4:57:42 PM | Message Detail |
| First,
Pokémon doesn't draw the hate Pikachu does. So I can reasonably think
it could near 25% on FF7. Reminder: Pikachu did 21% against PRE-KH
Cloud. KH probably helped FF7 a little as well. Probably not as much as
Cloud himself, but you get the picture. Second, looks like me losing every hot match so far made me the running joke around these parts. Third, I firmly believe that against complete jobbers, performance will actually follow an exponential curve rather than a linear one, like we often assume. Pretty much explaining how Gordon Freeman changed so much in performances from one year to the next. PS4 would double GH, no doubt about that. However, it would need to do much, much better if that idea is true. That would then highlight how weak of an entry Adventure is, especially if LoZ loses or barely wins against SMB3. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 012/016 --- Matches: 12/16 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF7 |
| From: Yesmar | Posted: 4/18/2004 5:05:25 PM | Message Detail |
| Yesmar's Contest Comments: Day 17: 4/18/04 · Well, Final Fantasy VII is impressing, but enough for me to declare it the winner of the contest. I'll wait and see how well Ocarina of Time does before I can draw any conclusions from this match. However, it does appear like FF7 VS. OoT will be as exciting as everyone is hyping it up to be. --- Heh Heh... The wind... It is blowing...--Ganondorf |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:17:56 PM | Message Detail |
| Where would you set the bar for OoT if it wants to have a chance to beat FF7? I'd say 88%. That’s exactly where I would put it, as well. If it doesn’t get 88% then it’s sunk. If it gets in the, say, 94% range, then I’d say FFVII is the one that’s screwed. Fallout 2 is not Gunstar Heroes, though. Keep that in mind. 92+% would impress me greatly against Fallout 2. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 16/16, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VII |
| From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 4/18/2004 9:20:49 PM | Message Detail |
| Eh, I don't think that KH will help FFVII all that much. A new game coming out in a series doesn't even always strengthen that series, a side story has almost no chance. If KH was called FFVII-2, maybe, but remember when Mario Sunshine was released. Mario got no boost whatsoever from that. |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/18/2004 9:23:53 PM | Message Detail |
| There`s a major difference between Mario getting a new game and Cloud getting an apperance. For Mario to get any sort of boost, even small, his game would need to be groundbreaking or extremely good. All Cloud needed was an appearance to introduce him to new people. Mario isn`t going to get more well-known because he is already the most well-known character in the gaming but for more people to like him he`d need a great game (Possibly Mario 128). So in short, there`s a big difference between the two. --- Nintendo® - The Beginning and the End "Okay... first the crying... THEN the rage!" - Link |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/18/2004 10:20:18 PM | Message Detail |
| The drawing power of Final Fantasy VII is on full display here. (in HHH's dreams he's this kind of draw) Final Fantasy VII probably draws in extra voters both for and against it, and one would guess that the % ends up being the same. So the drawing power thing doesn't really make it any more likely to win future matches. It does highlight Final Fantasy VII's worthiness though. I would not be the least bit surprised if OOT smashed Fallout 2 to bits and scored in the mid-90 range. I would be completely shocked if that happened...if Ocarina of Time got 94%, this contest is OVER like Grover. If Ocarina of Time gets less than 87.5% against Fallout 2 than it would have to be pegged as a signficant underdog against Final Fantasy VII...if it doesn't get 86% it might very well be done. Anything above 88% would be impressive; 90+% would be amazing, and Final Fantasy VII would have to be considered the underdog at that point. So I can reasonably think it could near 25% on FF7. I would not expect anything more than 20% against Final Fantasy VII from the winner of this match. I'd have to say Pokemon would have more upside than Xenogears, since Xenogears probably isn't *that* much more popular than Suikoden II. But if Pokemon could get 20% on Final Fantsy VII, I'd be impressed by Pokemon, and disappointed by Final Fantasy VII. KH probably helped FF7 a little as well I would doubt this. This was likely a character-only effect, with the characters who were most prominent in Kingdom Hearts being affected the most. I guess it's possible though...too bad we wouldn't have any way of knowing. If it gets in the, say, 94% range, then I’d say FFVII is the one that’s screwed. Yet another occassion of us thinking alike. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/18/2004 10:37:23 PM | Message Detail |
| I
agree that if OoT doesn't take 86% on Fallout 2 it has no chance. As
many of you who say Fallout 2 is more well known than Suikoden I must
remind you... It's a PC game and it wasn't revolutionary for its genre
like Doom (which only beat Earthbound, after all). If OoT doesn't take
92% I'll be in shock, if it doesn't take 90% I will write its chances
of winning off completely. Fallout 2, on GameFAQs, probably wouldn't
beat Suikoden 2. --- If all Christians acted like Christ, the whole world would be Christian. - Ghandi |
| From: Heroic Tails | Posted: 4/18/2004 10:45:33 PM | Message Detail |
| Everytime
I come into this topic, I find myself with nothing to say, as I already
agree almost completely with someone here, which is creativename this
time. OoT needs to do better against Fallout 2 than FF7 did against Suikoden 2. With 88-89%, it would start to look reasonably good for OoT. Fallout's srtength is very difficult to tell. On the one hand, it's probably better than Gunstar Heroes, so people who played it are much more likely to vote for it. And being an RPG, even a PC one, might always help. On the other hand, even good RPGs don't stand a chance to look good against the heavyweights, like Suikoden 2 showed, and it's probably even more obscure than Suikoden 2 here on GameFAQs. I wouldn't be surprised if OoT broke 90%. --- I'd rather be damned for my own beliefs, than be damned for someone else's. - Shake [This sig has been approved by UltimaterializerX] |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/18/2004 11:15:37 PM | Message Detail |
| ok,
so i just got home from a rather large all-day concert that i drove two
hours each way to get to. driving for four hours and dancing &
moshing for eight hours explains three things for me: 1) why i am ridiculously tired right now. 2) why i was unable to post a full analysis of tomorrow's match earlier. 3) why this analysis will be somewhat brief (see #1). cyko's Point of View Match 18 (8) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal vs. (9) Xenogears before the contest started, i went with Pokemon because i felt that Pikachu did not represent the series well at all. as it's been said before, even Pokefans hate, not dislike, but HATE that little yellow turd mouse. Pikachu represents all that is kiddie, irritating, and unholy about Pokemon. the little devil rat is one of the most over-exposed characters of anything this side of Jar-Jar Binks. but, once you scrape away the evil, yet brilliant marketing plan Nintendo devised, there really is a fun, innovative, addicting game under there. Xenogears has the Square name behind it, but that's it. and as powerful as Square is, it's not invincible. ( see Ramza, Tidus, and Yuna.) Xenogears has a very loyal fanbase, but it isn't played or recognized by half as many people as Pokemon. and so far in the first few matches, the cult game loses to the more mainstream one. Xenogears could pull out an upset, but unless it's accidentally misspelled on the poll as "Super Xeno Mario Gears", i seriously doubt it will. Prediction- Pokemon with 54-57% Bracket- Pokemon Personal Favorite - Pokemon - yup. i am secure enough in my manhood to admit that i, too, was once addicted to Pokemon. heck, i even played the Trading Card Game. that's right. and i was darn good, too. my "Wild Tickling Fire" deck and "Steel Chansey" deck were both virtually unstoppable. i made small children cry. and i enjoyed every minute of it. don't look at me like that. that doesn't make me a bad person. >_> also, as far as what OOT would need against Fallout 2 to prove a threat to FF7, it's hard to tell at this point. before Doom beat Earthbound, i would've said that Suikoden 2 could beat Fallout 2. but after seeing people support that PC game over the console RPG, Fallout 2 could actually be the tougher match. it is one of the premier PC games, so it probably is more played and recognizable among PC gamers than Suikoden is among console gamers. and Fallout 2 is also an RPG, which does help. it really all depends on how many PC supporters we have here. but....... i'll go out on a limb and say that OOT will still pose a threat to FF7 as long as it stays above 80%. unless Starcraft gets blownout by Halo, showing that the PC doesn't get much support. if that's the case, then i say OOT needs to at least match FF7's final total from today; roughly 86%. --- Current Score: 16/17 (through FF7 vs Suikoden 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/18/2004 11:46:48 PM | Message Detail |
| Xenogears has the Square name behind it, but that's it. and as powerful as Square is, it's not invincible. ( see Ramza Hmmm...good example there with Ramza. I hadn't thought of that before, but Ramza might be a good proxy for Xenogears if you're using the character-contest-performance-as-proxy model. I think he might be a better proxy than Xenosaga's KOS-MOS. While Final Fantasy Tactics will probably benefit from the Final Fantasy name, Ramza does not and has to rely solely on his own popularity, and Xenogears might be roughly the level of Tactics on this site. Ramza worked out as .239x of 2K3 Link; in 2002, Pikachu was .154x Link (he probably suffered through SFF via Fox in 2K3). So Ramza would be expected to get around 62.4% against Pikachu. Can the Pokemon > Pikachu factor make up for that? Most likely it would do so very easily, as in all likelihood Pokemon >> Pikachu. I hope KOS-MOS is the better proxy though, because I really don't want Pokemon to win this match. The difference between KOS-MOS and Pikachu would be too much to make up if KOS-MOS was a good representative of Xenogears. Xenogears could pull out an upset, but unless it's accidentally misspelled on the poll as "Super Xeno Mario Gears", i seriously doubt it will LMAO! That was good :) --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/19/2004 12:01:20 AM | Message Detail |
| Most. Anticipated. Spring. Match. EVER. ...and we get a friggin' sponsored poll!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: chaos knight | Posted: 4/19/2004 12:02:00 AM | Message Detail |
| Whoa, Xenogears is off to an impressive start. Will it pull an Earthbound though? --- Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS In Soviet Russia you're funny. CB vs the World |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/19/2004 12:12:11 AM | Message Detail |
| Less
than 400 votes in so far, so Xenogears' 60+% doesn't mean too
much...but it is a good sign, and obviously preferable to it losing at
this point. Another good sign is that Xenogear's % seems to be fairly constant--it isn't dropping. Two totally trivial factors I thought of: *The sponspored link moving the contest poll down will cause the voting population to be skewed towards more "hardcore" gamers, thus benefitting Xenogears! (yeah, right) *The X-Factor!: I thought of this when the contest pics first came up. That huge red "X" in Xenogears' logo might help it pull in the so-called casual vote. Casual voter goes, "Hmmm, Pokemon...I used to like that, but am now embarassed by it! I would feel ashamed to vote for something so ki--oooh, a big 'X'! *votes Xenogears*" Heh, in all seriousness, the "X" does make the pic factor in Xenogears' favor. If there ever was a pic-factor, Xenogears has it here. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/19/2004 12:58:15 AM | Message Detail |
| Whoa...I
was so busy being annoyed by the POTD that I didn't even read what it
was. It's actually intersting. And the choices make sense, so Ceej must
be either following people's reactions, or he picked the matches that
busted the most brackets. He has Contra, SMRPG, and Doom up as bracket-busters...I wonder if the lack of Donkey Kong means anything. In other news, Xenogears is still maintaining its pace. Looks like Pokemon might need the biggest % comeback ever to win this match. I wouldn't discount the possibility since Pokemon might very well get a much larger portion of the daytime vote, which is of course comprises the vast majority of the voting, but will it get over 50%? At this point it seems very questionable, given Xenogears' nighttime %...that would be quite the shift in voting patterns. Not impossible by any stretch, but IMO its not looking great for Pokemon. If Xenogears does win, it'll certainly mean a big shake-up in the Oracle challenge. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: Tarrot | Posted: 4/19/2004 1:03:26 AM | Message Detail |
| I have to say it. It goes against every moral fiber in my body, but I still have to say it. Wait until the kiddies wake up... |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/19/2004 1:25:41 AM | Message Detail |
| Not
too much whining going on as of yet. Which makes sense to me. As I
posted in another topic, even if Xenogears does maintain its lead, I
don't think you'll see too much whining from actual Pokemon fans.
Because that would require admitting to being a Pokemon fan. Rather, I'm thinking you'll be seeing whining from people who put Pokemon in their bracket, or chose it in the various board contests. I think that the simple fact that voting for Pokemon requires admitting to yourself that you still like it, might be a big factor in its possible demise :P --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/19/2004 3:46:40 AM | Message Detail |
| I don't think you'll see too much whining from actual Pokemon fans. Because that would require admitting to being a Pokemon fan. *snicker* You know, it's interesting: If I'd had the opportunity to finalize my bracket, I would have most likely changed four first round matches. The changes would have been: DK over DH, SFII over SMRPG, Doom over EB, and Pokémon over Xenogears. So it turns out I'm just as well off having not agonized over them. I wonder if that will be true of later rounds... --- Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/19/2004 4:44:15 AM | Message Detail |
| well, Xenogears has a bit of a lead at the moment. if Pokemon doesn't start coming back, a lot of us will look like fools. =P i wonder if the extra poll again will affect the outcome of a close match? Top 5 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage) 1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda : LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 75.28% - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 4) 71.26% - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2 5) 66.58% - Super Metroid over Phantasy Star 4 Top 5 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes) 1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 78272 - Legend of Zelda : LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 76348 - Final Fantasy 7 over Suikoden 2 4) 74682 - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 5) 61229 - Super Mario World over The Simpsons Top 5 Closest Matches (difference in percentage) 1) 0.14% - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 12.48% - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 3) 14.08% - Doom over Earthbound 4) 22.04% - Contra over Phantasy Star 5) 36.02% - Pong over River City Ransom Top 5 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes) 1) 143 - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 12076 - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 3) 12164 - Doom over Earthbound 4) 20080 - Contra over Phantasy Star 5) 26931 - Metroid over Pac-Man Top 5 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals) 1) 107150 - Final Fantasy 7 vs. Suikoden 2 2) 99194 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall 3) 97580 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure 4) 97285 - Super Mario World vs. The Simpsons 5) 97126 - Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force Top 5 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals) 1) 72743 - Metroid vs. Pac-Man * 2) 74556 - Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metal Gear * 3) 84501 - Tetris vs. Galaga 4) 84664 - Super Metroid vs. Phantasy Star 4 5) 84804 - Pong vs. River City Ransom Top 5 Highest Individual Votes 1) 92894 - Legend of Zelda 2) 91749 - Final Fantasy 7 3) 86938 - Final Fantasy 4) 86690 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP 5) 79257 - Super Mario World Top 5 Lowest Individual Votes 1) 4686 - Adventure 2) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes 3) 12256 - Pitfall 4) 13197 - Metal Gear 5) 14144 - Phantasy Star 4 Top 5 Most Impressive Losers (by votes) 1) 48444 - Duck Hunt 2) 42314 - Street Fighter 2 3) 37127 - Earthbound 4) 35513 - Phantasy Star 5) 27130 - River City Ransom Top 5 Least Impressive Winners (by votes) 1) 48587 - Donkey Kong 2) 49291 - Doom 3) 49837 - Metroid * 4) 54390 - Super Mario RPG 5) 55593 - Contra Top 5 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner) 1) no data yet, but soon!!! 2) 3) 4) 5) Top 5 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner) 1) no data yet...... hopefully soon......... please.......... 2) 3) 4) 5) * = shared PotD with GameRiot poll --- Current Score: 16/17 (through FF7 vs Suikoden 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:08:31 AM | Message Detail |
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| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:10:43 AM | Message Detail |
| I'm
afraid I have to retract everything I just said in my last
post...because I looked at the vote totals. Holy. Crap. There are less
than 10000 votes. This isn't at all normal for this time of day. Did
the poll start late? --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 17/17, Next Winner: Pokemon |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:13:31 AM | Message Detail |
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| From: jonthomson | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:14:29 AM | Message Detail |
| Whoa...I was so busy being annoyed by the POTD that I didn't even read what it was. It's actually intersting. What I find most interesting is that 11% of people still claim to be perfect... I don't know what figures you'd all say are still perfect (before today's match). I'd have guessed less. --- Jon Thomson - 15/17 - today: Xenogears - tomorrow: FFT |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:15:40 AM | Message Detail |
| Oops, wait a minute, I think I'm going to eat my words. Pokémon is coming back, fast. Though Pikachu DID lost the kiddie vote to Fox... if that means anything. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 013/017 --- Matches: 13/17 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Xenogears |
| From: Haste2 | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:17:02 AM | Message Detail |
| Wait, but Xenogears wasn't even released in Europe, was it? Eek, then I'd be a bit surprised if Pokemon catches up... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:19:44 AM | Message Detail |
| If
that's the case... remember, that's the reason why SF2 and SMRPG were
tied during nighttime, then when America woke up, SMRPG blasted SF2 to
holy hell. Now Xenogears has an OK percentage... but the vote count is
so low, Pokémon could get the advantage from that. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 013/017 --- Matches: 13/17 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Xenogears |
| From: charmander6000 | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:22:06 AM | Message Detail |
| looks like only a few people in this topic picked Xenogears --- LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC My Score 15/17 Xenogears vs. Pokemon |
| From: torey luvullo | Posted: 4/19/2004 5:28:04 AM | Message Detail |
| i picked xenogears from the start. now, for xenogears, that is not necessarily a good thing, mind you. it is apparent that the sponsored poll is having an effect on the total vote. for a minute, i thought that the fact that the sponsored poll was about the contest meant that the contest was "taking a day off". luckily, i knew to check below it to make sure. i reckon that many voters will vote in the "spring contest question", though, and consider their good work to be done for the day. my theory has always been that casual anti-poke votes [many of which will come from the now-legendary kiddies] would carry the day for xeno. so i strongly believe that the lower vote totals favor pokemon, and i am now somewhat worried about my pick. |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/19/2004 6:02:47 AM | Message Detail |
| I
think this poll is even *worse* for the contest than the old GameRiot
ones. Think about it: this poll actually *concerns* the Spring Contest.
When people vote, they may think the contest is just taking a break for
a day to see how everyone is doing and not realize there is a poll
right below. I must say this pisses me off. It was one thing when the polls were lowering the vote totals of obvious matches but this is too much. CJay could have put this poll up any time in the last week (barring Earthbound v. Doom) and there wouldn't have been any complaining from me but to put it up now is horrible timing to the point where it invalidates this match in my eyes and, to an extent, the contest as a whole. Now it's not just a popularity contest but a game of chance because we don't know when the vote totals and voting demographic is going to take a sudden shift with the appearance of a sponsored poll. If CJay *did* schedule the advertisers in advance of the contest (and thus had no choice about where the poll went) then he should have informed us that this would happen while we were making our brackets. I honestly think I would have chosen Xenogears if I knew that the poll would be moved to the bottom because it means that only hardcore followers of the contest are voting and not the usual, larger demographic, thus a larger percentage of people have heard of Xenogears than would be normal. If CJay didn't schedule the advertisers in advance then he should have put this poll on the bottom where it belongs. If he needs the advertising dollars so badly then he shouldn't be holding this contest and screwing us and our brackets around. And don't think this is sour grapes on my part. I'm not even eligible for any prizes so my standing in this contest means very little to me. I never expected to win or even be perfect for as long as I have been -- I was bound to mess up sooner or later. I'm more annoyed for the people who are eligible for prizes because they're being screwed by matches like this. You can reply with "they wouldn't even have a contest without CJay and his advertising $$$" keep in mind what I said: he could have told us in advance or not had the contest at all if he needs the advertising dollars so badly that he'll sabotage his own contest to get them. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 17/17, Next Winner: Pokemon |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/19/2004 6:31:19 AM | Message Detail |
| smitelf,
I was going to laugh at you for picking Pokemon, but that post was pure
genius. Everything I`m thinking right now is in that brilliant post of
yours. CjayC has completely screwed over this match, and if this goes
on, this contest`s credibility could be shot. In other news, look at the main poll. Notice how he has the three choices that have obviously busted up the most perfect brackets? This tells me that he could easily create a stat page, but is choosing not to. He obviously has access to the numbers. Gunstar Heroes is in the running for one of the weakest games in the entire contest, to be frank. I'd take anything's performance against it with a grain of salt. On FF6 vs. LttP... I think people are jumping the gun a bit here. I'm not at all convinced that LttP will make it past Super Metroid. Maybe I'm misjudging the GameFAQs fanbase badly (which is possible), but... Super Metroid is a higher seed, considered a better game in its franchise than LttP (which is generally in OoT's shadow), and seems to be just generally a more-respected game (see: the 'Best Game of All Time' hype it seems to manage). Yeah, I know Link > Samus, but I wouldn't overgeneralise that. All the evidence seems to make SM a slight favourite if anything; to blindly assume it will lose seems foolish. Took you damned long enough to post in this topic again, David =) But unfortunantly, I totally disagree with you. I`m not convinced that seedings were based 99% on nominatios; I honestly think CjayC twisted a few things around to give better matches. I could also care less about LTTP in comparison to Super Metroid and their respective opponents. I look at two things: total votes and the past. Link and his games have busted Samus up in every poll they have shared, and Link`s games are drawing more votes than Samus`s. I simply don`t see anything that can or will take LTTP down before its inevitable duel with Chrono Trigger, which I think LTTP has already won. My bracket suggests otherwise, which sort of blows. As for what I`ve bolded, I don`t think I`m being foolish at all. All the evidence supports LTTP winning that match by a 57-43 margain. --- MIASU! I think im going to mark this topic for being too intelligent for GameFAQs. -Tulidian |
| From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/19/2004 6:31:25 AM | Message Detail |
| One thing I just noticed: Top 5 Closest Matches (difference in percentage) ..... 5) 36.02% - Pong over River City Ransom The 5th closest match was 68-32? No wonder it's been fairly boring for a lot of these matches. About the sponsored poll, I think they'll be around for a week or so. Maybe not, but most times they are. Today's was alright, but the fact it's about the contest has got to affect voting numbers a bit. --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13696290 15/17 Next: XG |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/19/2004 6:41:33 AM | Message Detail |
| Max Payne vs Dirk the Daring was our worst match? Max Payne 76.17% 38707 Dirk the Daring 23.83% 12109 TOTAL VOTES 50816 Uh-oh. Today`s twosome may be embarrased pretty badly come the end of this poll. --- MIASU! I think im going to mark this topic for being too intelligent for GameFAQs. -Tulidian |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/19/2004 6:42:12 AM | Message Detail |
| Damn. I got pwned. :( There goes my perfect bracket... --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/19/2004 7:38:56 AM | Message Detail |
| Uh-oh. Today`s twosome may be embarrased pretty badly come the end of this poll. It's CJayC that should be embarrassed, not the games. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 17/17, Next Winner: Pokemon |
| From: Who Cares? | Posted: 4/19/2004 7:44:15 AM | Message Detail |
| [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] |
| From: Who Cares? | Posted: 4/19/2004 7:45:30 AM | Message Detail |
| It's CJayC that should be embarrassed, not the games. Agrees 100%. This is a flat out embarrassment & a disgrace that the poll is barely cracking 8000 at this point. If we get whiners complaining that there should be a revote, I would not blame them one bit. |
| From: Starion | Posted: 4/19/2004 7:45:30 AM | Message Detail |
| It's probably the principle but I find it oddly amusing that we complain so much about a throwaway match. --- Sp2004 Score:16/17 Today's Pick: Pokemon Nominate Death for the 2004 Character Contest |
| From: torey luvullo | Posted: 4/19/2004 7:48:09 AM | Message Detail |
| i
had to log in to vote this morning. that's the first time that ever
happened. it happened to ssjpopo too. here is the message board help
topic. note scottie's reply: gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=2&topic=13698430 that would be a MAJOR change in policy, if somehow voting was being limited to registered gf users. |
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