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From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:27:30 PM | Message Detail
And so the stats topic reaches its thirteenth iteration. Fantastic. :) I hope I'll have the time to be participating a little bit more, but I'll certainly be reading if not posting.

Stats websites:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html
Spring 2004 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

Stats topics:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)
2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.
Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm
Spring 2004 Contest:
http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13464664 (Until purge)

Oracle Standings:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/oracle.html

Let the discussion reign.
From: swirldude | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:29:14 PM | Message Detail
I am glad Mortal Kombat is doing so well against an RPG while being part of the most hated genre.
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And the no. 1 reason why Magus > Ansem.......Ansem bought an N-Gage, didn't he! FATALITY. O_O ~Cromage Score: 14/16 Final Fantasy VII > Suidoken II ;_;
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:30:47 PM | Message Detail
After today, I can honestly say LttP has its spot in the division finals.
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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: PepeCamello | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:40:21 PM | Message Detail
I'm getting more nervous about my Xenogears pick. I was confident as confident could be when I did the whole thing, but once Earthbound v. Doom came around, I got kinda nervous. Still, I got that match right and it was a blowout for expectations, and I'm really hoping that Xenogears gets a big win. Sorry I haven't read the other topics, but who is the favorite of the boards?
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SpC2K4: Picks 15/15 ..... Points 15/15
Pepe's Pick o' Today: (2) Final Fantasy III (VI) ..... Rank 1
From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:42:21 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I'm definitely surprised by how well MK is doing. Things look grim for FFVI in the next round. Too bad. It deserved better than that, but my bracket is feeling pretty good about itself right now. ;)
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Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com
From: creativename | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:06:37 PM | Message Detail
Sorry I haven't read the other topics, but who is the favorite of the boards?

Xenogears was the favorite in Slowflake's project, by about I think 60-40, but in Ngamer's experts brackets it was only favored 16-14.

Yeah, I'm definitely surprised by how well MK is doing.

And I'm still surprised by how much people expected it to win by. I expected 65%-70% before the contest started...Mortal Kombat is such a well known game. Not popular anymore, but it is a moderate opponent, not a weakling by any means. I'm surprised people had such little faith in it.

My expectation of A Link to the Past vs. Final Fantasy VI hasn't changed. Final Fantasy VI's showing is very strong, but it'll probably lose to A Link to the Past by a little bit; it won't be extremely close though. I'd guess A Link to the Past with 55%.
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Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4!
SC2K4.com
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:10:09 PM | Message Detail
Bah, okay, looks like FFVI is screwed. Oh well, there goes four points on my bracket when it goes up against LttP.
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:10:51 PM | Message Detail
Things look grim for FFVI in the next round.

Err...I assume you mean round 3? FFVI will definitely beat Doom.
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI
From: dethwing | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:14:12 PM | Message Detail
How has the Bracket Odds Project been doing so far? Has the majority been right so far?
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My Bracket: (Now with Colors!)
http://home.fuse.net/jimholte/dethwing/dethwing-bracket-spring.html
From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:21:39 PM | Message Detail
Xenogears was the favorite in Slowflake's project, by about I think 60-40, but in Ngamer's experts brackets it was only favored 16-14.

The Oracle Challenge currently favors Pokémon 28-21, although that may change once more picks come in.

Err...I assume you mean round 3? FFVI will definitely beat Doom.

What I say? Uh, yeah. Sorry. :P
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Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:23:36 PM | Message Detail
How has the Bracket Odds Project been doing so far? Has the majority been right so far?

It's predicted every match perfectly so far.
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''Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts...''
''All dreams are but another reality. Never forget...''
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:27:45 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, so far it`s perfect. Though their favoring Xenogears makes me wonder if they`ll finally take a loss...
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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:43:38 PM | Message Detail
Match #15 Review:

What an anticlimax. ~_~ Doom wins easily, and makes me wonder how people ever made such a big deal out of this match in the first place.

Why was Earthbound beaten, you ask? Well, it's been said a million times, and not just by me: Doom has more name recognition. It's that simple. Nothing much else to say here...except that the incessant whining from all of the EB fans was rather amusing.

Match #17 Preview:

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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: creativename | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:46:56 PM | Message Detail
except that the incessant whining from all of the EB fans was rather amusing.

I'd have to say that the Earthbound fans were the least whiniest fans so far, and by a long shot at that. It was the incessant gloating of the Doom fans that was annoying.
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Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4!
SC2K4.com
From: Tai | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:49:55 PM | Message Detail
DOOM RULE ALL!!!! MUhahahahaah!!! New levels! New Monsters! Dialogue between characters!! I am glad this all pwned some stupid kid with a baseball bat. :-)

Muhahahahaa... :-)


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Welcome to Sp2CK4, where your opinion does not matter. -Xenobi.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 3:43:51 PM | Message Detail
Looks like FF6 is recovering. Slowly. Still, it's way too late to gain back enough to triple MK.

In a nutshell, LttP won't beat FF6 as badly as I anticipated, but it can hardly lose. I wish I had it going to the finals... of course, tell me one good reason why it could take out FF7 or OoT.

FF7/Suiko 2 preview coming up.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 3:45:57 PM | Message Detail
I wish I had it going to the finals... of course, tell me one good reason why it could take out FF7 or OoT.

LttP?

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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 3:49:47 PM | Message Detail
LttP.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 3:51:14 PM | Message Detail
I still think CT can take it out, though in a very close match. Either way, both of those two (CT and LttP) could take out SMB3.
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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 4:14:55 PM | Message Detail
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #17 - (1) FINAL FANTASY 7 vs. (16) SUIKODEN 2 ***

Sales

Who needs sales figures? FF7 single-handedly got the RPG genre out of niche status and under the spotlight. According to many posters, few really cared about the Playstation until FF7 came out. Suikoden, while benefiting from that, didn't make the splash FF7 did. Oh no.

- Advantage FF7.

Franchises

Suikoden draws respect. Final Fantasy draws orgasms. "7" draws actually having to change underwear.

- Advantage FF7.

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: FF7
Number of reviews: FF7
Average review score: Suikoden 2
Board activity: FF7

I have never, EVER seen such a huge FAQ page.

I have never, EVER seen such a huge review page.

For a previous-gen board, the FF7 one is humongous.

Of course, we've seen massive underdogs win in the review score department. So we can afford to take it likely.

For the record, Suiko has a lot of FAQs and reviews as well. Just... not quite as much.

And you can find out, looking at the reviews, that Heroic Mario thinks FF7 is the best FF. BETRAYAL!!! j/k

- Advantage FF7.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Final Fantasy 7 - 102

POINT VALUE
1. Final Fantasy 7 - 4006
57. Suikoden 2 - 0

Ouch.

FF7 is the only game above 4000 in point value. Heck, it's the only one above 3000 (second is CT at 2623). 55 brackets out of 102 have it winning... that would be more, percentage-wise, than Link last year among all bracketmakers.

- Advantage FF7.

Summer Contests / Polls of the Day

Never seen Suiko involved in any poll... but come on, FF7 swept the finals last year and did pretty darn well the year before. To think Suikoden could even get near that is complete madness.

- Advantage FF7.

Intangibles

I hate being redundant, but it ought to be pointed out again.

Suikoden draws respect. Final Fantasy draws orgasms. "7" draws actually having to change underwear.

Conclusion: Suikoden draws respect. Final Fantasy draws orgasms. "7" draws actually having to change underwear.

FF7 was made by Nintendo and has Megaman tacked onto the title.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 4:21:04 PM | Message Detail
Lol. =P Another great one Slowflake.
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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 4:32:25 PM | Message Detail
Match Review: Earthbound vs. Doom

Doom cleaned up handily but considering its opponent -- probably the weakest SNES game in the bracket -- I'm not sure how much this says about the strength of PC games in general. It doesn't make me any less nervous about Halo vs. Starcraft, anyway.

Match Preview: Final Fantasy VII vs. Suikoden II

Suikoden II: A reasonably popular PS1 RPG. Suikoden II is the Secret of Mana of Division 32/64: a 16-seed that would have a chance against several other games in its bracket but that wound up getting gypped by having to face a heavyweight in Round 1. Considering its competition, getting 15% would be very respectable.

Final Fantasy VII: Final Fantasy VII. That's really all that needs to be said until Round 4.

This will be a momentous match. If FFVII gets 90%+ then we may as well crown it "Best. Game. Ever." right now. If it gets 80% then Crono Trigger and Ocarina of Time can safely be considered serious threats. In all likelihood, reality will be somewhere in between.

My prediction: Final Fantasy VII 87.5%, Suikoden 2 12.5%
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI
From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/17/2004 5:49:43 PM | Message Detail
MK did a bit better than I expected, but I'm not going as far as to say it shows LttP will beat FF6 for sure. I still expect FF6 to win that match actually. I'm guessing more people would of played MK than FF6 to be honest, at least legitimately (i.e. not a ROM), so the difference isn't that bad.
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Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13664903
14/16 Next: FF7
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 5:51:09 PM | Message Detail
Hmm... I`m still thinking that FFVI, after today, proved that it`s not going to be able to overtake LttP. It`ll be close, but I`d actually be surprised if FFVI won that match.
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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:02:18 PM | Message Detail
I get the feeling we're going to get CJayC's stats tonight.

When they do come out, it's going to be interesting to compare the prediction percentages with those of the BOP. I think we're in for a few surprises.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:39:15 PM | Message Detail
I get the feeling we're going to get CJayC's stats tonight.

Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaase CJaaaay?

And I still think FFVI is screwed, unless lots of people did as I did and gave MK a pity vote. The only thing that still makes me ambivalent about proclaiming it dead come round 3 is its seeding. Other than the mental barrier that makes it difficult for me to comprehend a 6-seed defeating a 2-seed from the same console (i.e. this is not a Sega Master System or Xbox situation) I don't hold out much hope for FFVI after today's performance. FFVI has not hit the magical 75% barrier against MK and that shows a weakness that a game can't have when it's going up against LttP.
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:42:20 PM | Message Detail
Because there seems to be a huge difference between the boards and the average voter as far as FF6 goes.

Remember, Kefka was thought to give Crono a run for his money last year... then he actually lost SFF votes come that match.

This year, the boards nominated, hence FF6's high seeding. LttP being seeded below SMW comes as a shock to me, too.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:48:26 PM | Message Detail
Don't forget MK is seeded too low I predicted 70-30 from this match and my bracket had FFVI beating LttP
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LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC
My Score 13/15 FF VI vs. Mortal Kombat
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:50:25 PM | Message Detail
Of course it's underseeded. FF6 is still not doing well enough despite that.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6
From: Haste2 | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:52:45 PM | Message Detail
Well, I think we can agree on this: if Final Fantasy VI gets very close Zelda: LttP, Chrono Trigger has the division won.

Looking at the results so far, it seems that underdog games have been getting a real beating compared to the underdogs in the character contests. Maybe they were just fodder, but I have a feeling that Halo will have a fairly easy time defeating Starcraft... Well, I think Xenogears vs. Pokemon GSC will really test this out.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 7:08:04 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I`ll agree that Halo should, rather easily, defeat StarCraft.
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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 7:38:16 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I`ll agree that Halo should, rather easily, defeat StarCraft.

Starcraft should, rather slimly (if that is a word <_<) defeat Halo.
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI
From: Rukawa3 | Posted: 4/17/2004 7:58:44 PM | Message Detail
It's tough to imagine that there's still members left in the perfect club. My bracket's been impeccable up until the SF2 and MarioRPG match. Personally, IMO the hardest battles to predict was SF2 Vs Mario RPG and Earthbound Vs Doom. One must be truly lucky or plain genius to get them both right. On one hand, We had a obscure cult classic winning over TeH fighter revolutioner. Well, theoretically it's Earthbound's to lose right? Since SF2 is far more popular than DOOM and Ryu was beaten badly by Mario RPG, a game which is arguably less played than Earthbound. Wrong! *sigh*
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Fable > *insert a game here*
From: Tai | Posted: 4/17/2004 8:01:25 PM | Message Detail
Halo will beat Starcraft. I give Halo my 100% confidence. Halo rocks, and it's on PC and Xbox and one of the best FPS games out there. Heh. Starcraft being PC shouldn't help it, btw. Forget what Doom did...EarthBound sucks, even though Doom is one of the best FPS games ever....Starcraft is going DOWN!

Oh right, their both on the PC. >_<'


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Welcome to Sp2CK4, where your opinion does not matter. -Xenobi.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:03:48 AM | Message Detail
75-25 right now for FFVII...
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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:38:23 AM | Message Detail
As of writing this it's currently 80.34-19.66 for FF7. This is quite close to Chrono Trigger's 79.39-20.61 against Secret of Mana. This brings up the question of who is the stronger opponent Secret of Mana or Suikoden 2 and how much did SFF play into Chrono Trigger's victory. As of right now, FF7 doesn't seem a whole lot stronger than CT. While this doesn't mean FF7 is weak, it does mean that FF7 won't make a clean sweep of the contest.
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''Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts...''
''All dreams are but another reality. Never forget...''
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:39:10 AM | Message Detail
I`ll agree to that TRE.
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NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: creativename | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:42:39 AM | Message Detail
This brings up the question of who is the stronger opponent Secret of Mana or Suikoden 2

I'd say Suikoden 2. It's a Playstation game, and you hear about it a lot more at this site than Secret of Mana. The top PlayStation games would probably be stronger than the strongest SNES games (though that's uncertain). But, it isn't Square. Despite that I'd still say it's stronger than Secret of Mana.
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Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4!
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From: Starion | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:59:19 AM | Message Detail
I'm not too sure about that. SOM does have the Nintendo connection. Suikoden2 is more recent but Konami released a limited number of copies (curse you Konami!). That's why the game is hard to find and whyt it's priced a bit high on ebay.
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Sp2004 Score:14/15 Today's Pick: FF3
Nominate Death for the 2004 Character Contest
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/18/2004 5:59:21 AM | Message Detail
I`d love to see CjayC actually create a stats page. He knows the pulse of his boards, and there`s no way he hasn`t noticed our whining about it already.
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MIASU! I think im going to mark this topic for being too intelligent for GameFAQs. -Tulidian
From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:18:30 AM | Message Detail
Well here we go kiddies :) Time for...

Steve Illumina Speaks

Thats right, the infamous yet humorous commentary is back, to go with all the rest of us here in this, the greatest of threads, the most worthy of postings on this fanboy dominated board.

And so it continues, with a fairly predictable replay of Earthy & Doomy in the "Golden Age" Division

Match XVIII

(8)Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal/Platinum vs (9)Xenogears

Steve's Prediction: Pokemon by 58%
Steve's Bracket: Pokemon
Newbie's Pick: Pikachu!
Upset Chances: Aint gonna catch em all!

Comments: Here we got Nintendo's money making machine of the late 90's, early 00's against a hardcore Square RPG

Above I said this would be a replay of Earthy & Doomy. Well folks, it is...and it wont be in Xeno's favor, as it was not in favor of Earthy a few days back.

See Xenogears suffers from the 'I aint too common' syndrome. It afflicts worthy and semi-worthy games in this tourney and causes them to lose their 1st matches. It happened with RCR. It happened with Earthbound. Its gonna happen again with Xenogears.

Say what ya want about Pokemon...it sells still today. Not as much as in its heyday sure, but still it sells well. It has a loyal following, but it also has the fact that its known by 95% of gamers. That is all it needs to take the match. To be known... Having the Nintendites backing it wont hurt either. That merely seals the deal.

Crybaby Xenoboys will say its cause there are 3 pokemon games going against it...so they are outnumbered! You watch, some fanboy will post a post like this tomorrow. If so, it is so pathetic I wont even reply to it here. In the end, another cult bites the dust.

Probable Results: Pokemon takes it by 58%, in the range of Doom's not so surprise victory. Sorry Xeno...

Steve's Moments: Pokemon: I played it at Gamestop for 5 min...and was like...I am too old for this! Xenogears: It could have been so much more...

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SC2K4: 15/17! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary!
Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years
From: cyko | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:44:49 AM | Message Detail
well, my Oracle Prediction of FF7 was for it to hit 83.54%. as of right now, it's almost at that mark, but still climbing. it will probably finish in the 85-87%. i don't thinnk too many people expected this to be a blowout of epic proportions. Suikoden 2 really was a fantastic game.

as for FF6 beating LTTP, i still see it as a possibility. despite facing a much, much tougher opponent, FF6 did manage to get as many votes as Super Metroid did against PS4. FF6 is not quite dead yet.

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Current Score: 16/17 (through FF7 vs Suikoden 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:45:07 AM | Message Detail
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #18 - (8) POKÉMON GOLD/SILVER/CRYSTAL vs. (9) XENOGEARS ***

XENOGEARS wants to fight!
Go! POKÉMON!

Sales

XENOGEARS used CULT HIT!
It's not very effective...
POKÉMON used TOP 3 GAMEBOY COLOR GAMES!
Critical hit!
It's super effective!

- Advantage POKÉMON GSC.

Franchises

XENOGEARS used NO OTHER GAMES IN THE SERIES!
Nothing happened!
POKÉMON used BEST-SELLING PREQUELS AND SEQUELS!
It's super effective!

- Advantage POKÉMON GSC.

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: Pokémon GSC
Number of reviews: Xenogears against each separate version, Pokémon GSC combined
Average review score: Pokémon GSC
Board activity: Xenogears against each separate version, Pokémon GSC combined

XENOGEARS used LOTS OF FAQS, GOOD REVIEWS AND BUSY BOARDS!
Critical hit!
POKÉMON used MORE FAQS, BETTER REVIEWS AND THREE BUSY BOARDS!
It's super effective!

- Advantage POKÉMON GSC.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Xenogears - 61
Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal - 41

POINT VALUE
33. Xenogears - 61
38. Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal - 41

XENOGEARS used BOARD'S FAVORITE!
POKÉMON used HONORABLE MENTION!

- Advantage XENOGEARS.

Summer Contest / Poll of the Day

XENOGEARS used PIKACHU LOST THE KIDDIE VOTE TO FREAKIN' FOX!
It's super effective!
POKÉMON used NEVER SEEN XENOGEARS IN ACTION!

- Advantage XENOGEARS.

Intangibles

XENOGEARS used POKÉMON IS SEEN AS KIDDIE BY LOTS OF PEOPLE!
POKÉMON used THE GAMES ARE MORE LIKED THAN THE ANIME AND MOVIES!
XENOGEARS's SPEED fell!
POKÉMON used THE GAMES ARE MORE POPULAR THAN PIKACHU!

- TIE.

Conclusion: On the next episode!
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 012/016 --- Matches: 12/16 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF7
From: cyko | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:48:52 AM | Message Detail
not a single thing changed with the FF6 vs. MK match.

Top 5 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)

1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda over Adventure
2) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda : LTTP over Gunstar Heroes
3) 75.28% - Final Fantasy over Pitfall
4) 66.58% - Super Metroid over Phantasy Star 4
5) 64.60% - Super Mario Bros. 3 over Metal Gear*

Top 5 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda over Adventure
2) 78272 - Legend of Zelda : LTTP over Gunstar Heroes
3) 74682 - Final Fantasy over Pitfall
4) 61229 - Super Mario World over The Simpsons
5) 59648 - Sonic 2 over Shining Force

Top 5 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)

1) 0.14% - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt
2) 12.48% - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2
3) 14.08% - Doom over Earthbound
4) 22.04% - Contra over Phantasy Star
5) 36.02% - Pong over River City Ransom

Top 5 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 143 - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt
2) 12076 - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2
3) 12164 - Doom over Earthbound
4) 20080 - Contra over Phantasy Star
5) 26931 - Metroid over Pac-Man

Top 5 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 99194 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall
2) 97580 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure
3) 97285 - Super Mario World vs. The Simpsons
4) 97126 - Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force
5) 97031 - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt

Top 5 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 72743 - Metroid vs. Pac-Man *
2) 74556 - Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metal Gear *
3) 84501 - Tetris vs. Galaga
4) 84664 - Super Metroid vs. Phantasy Star 4
5) 84804 - Pong vs. River City Ransom

Top 5 Highest Individual Votes

1) 92894 - Legend of Zelda
2) 86938 - Final Fantasy
3) 86690 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP
4) 79257 - Super Mario World
5) 78387 - Sonic 2

Top 5 Lowest Individual Votes

1) 4686 - Adventure
2) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes
3) 12256 - Pitfall
4) 13197 - Metal Gear
5) 14144 - Phantasy Star 4

Top 5 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)

1) 48444 - Duck Hunt
2) 42314 - Street Fighter 2
3) 37127 - Earthbound
4) 35513 - Phantasy Star
5) 27130 - River City Ransom

Top 5 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)

1) 48587 - Donkey Kong
2) 49291 - Doom
3) 49837 - Metroid *
4) 54390 - Super Mario RPG
5) 55593 - Contra

Top 5 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)

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Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)

1) no data yet...... hopefully soon......... please..........
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* = shared PotD with GameRiot poll

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Current Score: 16/17 (through FF7 vs Suikoden 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people
A WINNER of Trivia 12
From: SecondBest | Posted: 4/18/2004 7:16:00 AM | Message Detail
Forget LttP over FFVI--look for it to beat Chrono Trigger. Chrono Trigger is not an automatic magnet for Square support--a lot of post 16-bit gamers don't even know it was made by the same company as their beloved Final Fantasies. Of course, Zelda will suffer from the loss of some automatic Nintendo support votes, and Chrono Cross really can't help matters. Nevertheless, look for A Link to the Past to take it on name recognition alone.
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There's always someone better.
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/18/2004 7:54:08 AM | Message Detail
Match Review: Final Fantasy VI vs. Mortal Kombat

Sorry, Final Fantasy VI, but you failed to impress me. I was expecting you to get 75% at the least and you disappointed. You may very well get creamed by LttP in Round 3. My faith has been shaken.

Match Preview: Pokemon G/S/C vs. Xenogears

Pokemon: Gotta catch 'em all! Yes, I will admit I was once a Pokemon addict. I still say it's a fun game and worthy of being in this contest, and apparently several people agree. This is where my GameBoy Color nomination went (my GameBoy nomination went to Tetris <_<) and I really feel that it's being underestimated as an opponent for Xenogears. Slowflake has pretty much outlined the game's strengths already so go read his post.

Xenogears: An RPG, and a Square one at that. However, it's not as popular as a Final Fantasy game might be and I doubt I'm the only one who despises the second disc.

In the end, Xenogears may be a Square RPG but it doesn't have "Final Fantasy" or "Mario" in the name and it isn't Crono Trigger. I've already said several times why Pikachu =/= Pokemon so let's just not comment on 02/03. If Pokemon is so hated around here then why do so many Pokemon games have a place on the top FAQs list?

My prediction: Pokemon 55%, Xenogears 45%

My dirty secret: I liked Pokemon Snap. So sue me!
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Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04
Current Sp2K4 Score: 16/16, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VII
From: Rukawa3 | Posted: 4/18/2004 8:05:29 AM | Message Detail
Now, i was pretty confident with Xenogears chances until now.(BTW, i've never played it) Seems like all the "elites" are siding with pikachu and friends. Now, let's hope the anti P guys can get the job done.
Oh yea, i liked Pokemon Snap too. I just recently bought it from gamestop. For $3.63 it's not a big deal at all.
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Fable > *insert a game here*
From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/18/2004 8:10:44 AM | Message Detail
Match 18 preview:

1 point match - FF7 thrashes the winner. Who will this be though? No idea. I've given up trying to predict as I seem to be getting all the close ones wrong. I'm leaning towards Pokemon for now even though I have Xenogears on my bracket.
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Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13664903
14/16 Next: FF7
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/18/2004 9:35:38 AM | Message Detail
Match #16 Review:

Whoa! FFVI did a lot worse than I expected...perhaps Mortal Kombat was a worthy opponent after all. However, this match just reinforces my opinion that FFVI doesn't stand a chance in hell against LttP.

Match #18 Preview:

I'm sick of the hype for this match. Just sick of it.

People are overestimating the Pokemon anti-vote way, way too much. STOP USING PIKACHU AS PROOF THAT POKEMON IS GOING TO LOSE. Even most Pokefans hate the stupid rat (including me) and voted against him in 2003.

If everybody hates the game so much, then why is Pokemon at the top of the FAQ and message board listings for the Game Boy, Game Boy Color, AND Game Boy Advance? It's simple, people: POKEMON IS POPULAR ON THIS SITE. Get it into your head. Read that statement as many times as you'd like until you finally understand it.

That's not to say that there won't be any Pokemon anti-votes, but who, outside of a few 10 year-olds who think it's cool to hate the series, is going to vote out of pure spite? The answer is: they won't.

Need more proof? Here's some:

If Xenogears is any more well-known than Earthbound or River City Ransom, then shoot the horse and slap me silly.

Xenogears is a cult classic. Note the word "cult". In other words, the only reason it was given such a high seed is because the "cult" all "nominated" for "it". I don't think I need gratuitious "quotation marks" to tell you that the average voter will see Pokemon on one side, see some game they've never heard of on the other side, get all nostalgic about collecting the li'l monsters, and vote for the Gold, Silver, and Crysal versions.

In other words, Pokemon has a major advantage in every aspect of this match aside from a couple of anti-votes.

Pokemon will win.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:18:50 PM | Message Detail
*bumps*
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
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