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From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:27:30 PM | Message Detail |
And
so the stats topic reaches its thirteenth iteration. Fantastic. :) I
hope I'll have the time to be participating a little bit more, but I'll
certainly be reading if not posting.
Stats websites:
Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html Spring 2004 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html
Stats topics:
Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note) 2003-2004 Off-Season: http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note) Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL. Spring 2004 Pre-Season: http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm Spring 2004 Contest: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13464664 (Until purge)
Oracle Standings: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/oracle.html
Let the discussion reign. |
From: swirldude | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:29:14 PM | Message Detail |
I am glad Mortal Kombat is doing so well against an RPG while being part of the most hated genre. --- And
the no. 1 reason why Magus > Ansem.......Ansem bought an N-Gage,
didn't he! FATALITY. O_O ~Cromage Score: 14/16 Final Fantasy VII >
Suidoken II ;_; |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:30:47 PM | Message Detail |
After today, I can honestly say LttP has its spot in the division finals. --- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: PepeCamello | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:40:21 PM | Message Detail |
I'm
getting more nervous about my Xenogears pick. I was confident as
confident could be when I did the whole thing, but once Earthbound v.
Doom came around, I got kinda nervous. Still, I got that match right
and it was a blowout for expectations, and I'm really hoping that
Xenogears gets a big win. Sorry I haven't read the other topics, but
who is the favorite of the boards? --- SpC2K4: Picks 15/15 ..... Points 15/15 Pepe's Pick o' Today: (2) Final Fantasy III (VI) ..... Rank 1 |
From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/17/2004 1:42:21 PM | Message Detail |
Yeah,
I'm definitely surprised by how well MK is doing. Things look grim for
FFVI in the next round. Too bad. It deserved better than that, but my
bracket is feeling pretty good about itself right now. ;) --- Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com |
From: creativename | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:06:37 PM | Message Detail |
Sorry I haven't read the other topics, but who is the favorite of the boards?
Xenogears
was the favorite in Slowflake's project, by about I think 60-40, but in
Ngamer's experts brackets it was only favored 16-14.
Yeah, I'm definitely surprised by how well MK is doing.
And
I'm still surprised by how much people expected it to win by. I
expected 65%-70% before the contest started...Mortal Kombat is such a
well known game. Not popular anymore, but it is a moderate opponent,
not a weakling by any means. I'm surprised people had such little faith
in it.
My expectation of A Link to the Past vs. Final Fantasy VI
hasn't changed. Final Fantasy VI's showing is very strong, but it'll
probably lose to A Link to the Past by a little bit; it won't be
extremely close though. I'd guess A Link to the Past with 55%. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:10:09 PM | Message Detail |
Bah, okay, looks like FFVI is screwed. Oh well, there goes four points on my bracket when it goes up against LttP. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI |
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:10:51 PM | Message Detail |
Things look grim for FFVI in the next round.
Err...I assume you mean round 3? FFVI will definitely beat Doom. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI |
From: dethwing | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:14:12 PM | Message Detail |
How has the Bracket Odds Project been doing so far? Has the majority been right so far? --- My Bracket: (Now with Colors!) http://home.fuse.net/jimholte/dethwing/dethwing-bracket-spring.html |
From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:21:39 PM | Message Detail |
Xenogears
was the favorite in Slowflake's project, by about I think 60-40, but in
Ngamer's experts brackets it was only favored 16-14.
The Oracle Challenge currently favors Pokémon 28-21, although that may change once more picks come in.
Err...I assume you mean round 3? FFVI will definitely beat Doom.
What I say? Uh, yeah. Sorry. :P --- Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com |
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:23:36 PM | Message Detail |
How has the Bracket Odds Project been doing so far? Has the majority been right so far?
It's predicted every match perfectly so far. --- ''Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts...'' ''All dreams are but another reality. Never forget...'' |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:27:45 PM | Message Detail |
Yeah, so far it`s perfect. Though their favoring Xenogears makes me wonder if they`ll finally take a loss... --- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:43:38 PM | Message Detail |
Match #15 Review:
What
an anticlimax. ~_~ Doom wins easily, and makes me wonder how people
ever made such a big deal out of this match in the first place.
Why
was Earthbound beaten, you ask? Well, it's been said a million times,
and not just by me: Doom has more name recognition. It's that simple.
Nothing much else to say here...except that the incessant whining from
all of the EB fans was rather amusing.
Match #17 Preview:
... --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
From: creativename | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:46:56 PM | Message Detail |
except that the incessant whining from all of the EB fans was rather amusing.
I'd
have to say that the Earthbound fans were the least whiniest fans so
far, and by a long shot at that. It was the incessant gloating of the
Doom fans that was annoying. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
From: Tai | Posted: 4/17/2004 2:49:55 PM | Message Detail |
DOOM
RULE ALL!!!! MUhahahahaah!!! New levels! New Monsters! Dialogue between
characters!! I am glad this all pwned some stupid kid with a baseball
bat. :-)
Muhahahahaa... :-)
--- Welcome to Sp2CK4, where your opinion does not matter. -Xenobi. |
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 3:43:51 PM | Message Detail |
Looks like FF6 is recovering. Slowly. Still, it's way too late to gain back enough to triple MK.
In
a nutshell, LttP won't beat FF6 as badly as I anticipated, but it can
hardly lose. I wish I had it going to the finals... of course, tell me
one good reason why it could take out FF7 or OoT.
FF7/Suiko 2 preview coming up. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6 |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 3:45:57 PM | Message Detail |
I wish I had it going to the finals... of course, tell me one good reason why it could take out FF7 or OoT.
LttP?
--- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 3:49:47 PM | Message Detail |
LttP. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6 |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 3:51:14 PM | Message Detail |
I still think CT can take it out, though in a very close match. Either way, both of those two (CT and LttP) could take out SMB3. --- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 4:14:55 PM | Message Detail |
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #17 - (1) FINAL FANTASY 7 vs. (16) SUIKODEN 2 ***
Sales
Who
needs sales figures? FF7 single-handedly got the RPG genre out of niche
status and under the spotlight. According to many posters, few really
cared about the Playstation until FF7 came out. Suikoden, while
benefiting from that, didn't make the splash FF7 did. Oh no.
- Advantage FF7.
Franchises
Suikoden draws respect. Final Fantasy draws orgasms. "7" draws actually having to change underwear.
- Advantage FF7.
GameFAQs Status
Number of FAQs: FF7 Number of reviews: FF7 Average review score: Suikoden 2 Board activity: FF7
I have never, EVER seen such a huge FAQ page.
I have never, EVER seen such a huge review page.
For a previous-gen board, the FF7 one is humongous.
Of course, we've seen massive underdogs win in the review score department. So we can afford to take it likely.
For the record, Suiko has a lot of FAQs and reviews as well. Just... not quite as much.
And you can find out, looking at the reviews, that Heroic Mario thinks FF7 is the best FF. BETRAYAL!!! j/k
- Advantage FF7.
Board Odds Project
PICKS (out of 102) Final Fantasy 7 - 102
POINT VALUE 1. Final Fantasy 7 - 4006 57. Suikoden 2 - 0
Ouch.
FF7
is the only game above 4000 in point value. Heck, it's the only one
above 3000 (second is CT at 2623). 55 brackets out of 102 have it
winning... that would be more, percentage-wise, than Link last year
among all bracketmakers.
- Advantage FF7.
Summer Contests / Polls of the Day
Never
seen Suiko involved in any poll... but come on, FF7 swept the finals
last year and did pretty darn well the year before. To think Suikoden
could even get near that is complete madness.
- Advantage FF7.
Intangibles
I hate being redundant, but it ought to be pointed out again.
Suikoden draws respect. Final Fantasy draws orgasms. "7" draws actually having to change underwear.
Conclusion: Suikoden draws respect. Final Fantasy draws orgasms. "7" draws actually having to change underwear.
FF7 was made by Nintendo and has Megaman tacked onto the title. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6 |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 4:21:04 PM | Message Detail |
Lol. =P Another great one Slowflake. --- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 4:32:25 PM | Message Detail |
Match Review: Earthbound vs. Doom
Doom
cleaned up handily but considering its opponent -- probably the weakest
SNES game in the bracket -- I'm not sure how much this says about the
strength of PC games in general. It doesn't make me any less nervous
about Halo vs. Starcraft, anyway.
Match Preview: Final Fantasy VII vs. Suikoden II
Suikoden
II: A reasonably popular PS1 RPG. Suikoden II is the Secret of Mana of
Division 32/64: a 16-seed that would have a chance against several
other games in its bracket but that wound up getting gypped by having
to face a heavyweight in Round 1. Considering its competition, getting
15% would be very respectable.
Final Fantasy VII: Final Fantasy VII. That's really all that needs to be said until Round 4.
This
will be a momentous match. If FFVII gets 90%+ then we may as well crown
it "Best. Game. Ever." right now. If it gets 80% then Crono Trigger and
Ocarina of Time can safely be considered serious threats. In all
likelihood, reality will be somewhere in between.
My prediction: Final Fantasy VII 87.5%, Suikoden 2 12.5% --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI |
From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/17/2004 5:49:43 PM | Message Detail |
MK
did a bit better than I expected, but I'm not going as far as to say it
shows LttP will beat FF6 for sure. I still expect FF6 to win that match
actually. I'm guessing more people would of played MK than FF6 to be
honest, at least legitimately (i.e. not a ROM), so the difference isn't
that bad. --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13664903 14/16 Next: FF7 |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 5:51:09 PM | Message Detail |
Hmm...
I`m still thinking that FFVI, after today, proved that it`s not going
to be able to overtake LttP. It`ll be close, but I`d actually be
surprised if FFVI won that match. --- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:02:18 PM | Message Detail |
I get the feeling we're going to get CJayC's stats tonight.
When
they do come out, it's going to be interesting to compare the
prediction percentages with those of the BOP. I think we're in for a
few surprises. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6 |
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:39:15 PM | Message Detail |
I get the feeling we're going to get CJayC's stats tonight.
Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaase CJaaaay?
And
I still think FFVI is screwed, unless lots of people did as I did and
gave MK a pity vote. The only thing that still makes me ambivalent
about proclaiming it dead come round 3 is its seeding. Other than the
mental barrier that makes it difficult for me to comprehend a 6-seed
defeating a 2-seed from the same console (i.e. this is not a Sega
Master System or Xbox situation) I don't hold out much hope for FFVI
after today's performance. FFVI has not hit the magical 75% barrier
against MK and that shows a weakness that a game can't have when it's
going up against LttP. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI |
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:42:20 PM | Message Detail |
Because there seems to be a huge difference between the boards and the average voter as far as FF6 goes.
Remember, Kefka was thought to give Crono a run for his money last year... then he actually lost SFF votes come that match.
This year, the boards nominated, hence FF6's high seeding. LttP being seeded below SMW comes as a shock to me, too. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6 |
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:48:26 PM | Message Detail |
Don't forget MK is seeded too low I predicted 70-30 from this match and my bracket had FFVI beating LttP --- LUE is a cancer, and if it can't be destroyed, it must be contained. - CjayC My Score 13/15 FF VI vs. Mortal Kombat |
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:50:25 PM | Message Detail |
Of course it's underseeded. FF6 is still not doing well enough despite that. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 011/015 --- Matches: 11/15 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF6 |
From: Haste2 | Posted: 4/17/2004 6:52:45 PM | Message Detail |
Well, I think we can agree on this: if Final Fantasy VI gets very close Zelda: LttP, Chrono Trigger has the division won.
Looking
at the results so far, it seems that underdog games have been getting a
real beating compared to the underdogs in the character contests. Maybe
they were just fodder, but I have a feeling that Halo will have a
fairly easy time defeating Starcraft... Well, I think Xenogears vs.
Pokemon GSC will really test this out.
--- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/17/2004 7:08:04 PM | Message Detail |
Yeah, I`ll agree that Halo should, rather easily, defeat StarCraft. --- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/17/2004 7:38:16 PM | Message Detail |
Yeah, I`ll agree that Halo should, rather easily, defeat StarCraft.
Starcraft should, rather slimly (if that is a word <_<) defeat Halo. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 15/15, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VI |
From: Rukawa3 | Posted: 4/17/2004 7:58:44 PM | Message Detail |
It's
tough to imagine that there's still members left in the perfect club.
My bracket's been impeccable up until the SF2 and MarioRPG match.
Personally, IMO the hardest battles to predict was SF2 Vs Mario RPG and
Earthbound Vs Doom. One must be truly lucky or plain genius to get them
both right. On one hand, We had a obscure cult classic winning over TeH
fighter revolutioner. Well, theoretically it's Earthbound's to lose
right? Since SF2 is far more popular than DOOM and Ryu was beaten badly
by Mario RPG, a game which is arguably less played than Earthbound.
Wrong! *sigh* --- Fable > *insert a game here* |
From: Tai | Posted: 4/17/2004 8:01:25 PM | Message Detail |
Halo
will beat Starcraft. I give Halo my 100% confidence. Halo rocks, and
it's on PC and Xbox and one of the best FPS games out there. Heh.
Starcraft being PC shouldn't help it, btw. Forget what Doom
did...EarthBound sucks, even though Doom is one of the best FPS games
ever....Starcraft is going DOWN!
Oh right, their both on the PC. >_<'
--- Welcome to Sp2CK4, where your opinion does not matter. -Xenobi. |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:03:48 AM | Message Detail |
75-25 right now for FFVII... --- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:38:23 AM | Message Detail |
As
of writing this it's currently 80.34-19.66 for FF7. This is quite close
to Chrono Trigger's 79.39-20.61 against Secret of Mana. This brings up
the question of who is the stronger opponent Secret of Mana or Suikoden
2 and how much did SFF play into Chrono Trigger's victory. As of right
now, FF7 doesn't seem a whole lot stronger than CT. While this doesn't
mean FF7 is weak, it does mean that FF7 won't make a clean sweep of the
contest. --- ''Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts...'' ''All dreams are but another reality. Never forget...'' |
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:39:10 AM | Message Detail |
I`ll agree to that TRE. --- NintendoŽ - The Beginning and the End SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
From: creativename | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:42:39 AM | Message Detail |
This brings up the question of who is the stronger opponent Secret of Mana or Suikoden 2
I'd
say Suikoden 2. It's a Playstation game, and you hear about it a lot
more at this site than Secret of Mana. The top PlayStation games would
probably be stronger than the strongest SNES games (though that's
uncertain). But, it isn't Square. Despite that I'd still say it's
stronger than Secret of Mana. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
From: Starion | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:59:19 AM | Message Detail |
I'm
not too sure about that. SOM does have the Nintendo connection.
Suikoden2 is more recent but Konami released a limited number of copies
(curse you Konami!). That's why the game is hard to find and whyt it's
priced a bit high on ebay. --- Sp2004 Score:14/15 Today's Pick: FF3 Nominate Death for the 2004 Character Contest |
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/18/2004 5:59:21 AM | Message Detail |
I`d
love to see CjayC actually create a stats page. He knows the pulse of
his boards, and there`s no way he hasn`t noticed our whining about it
already. --- MIASU! I think im going to mark this topic for being too intelligent for GameFAQs. -Tulidian |
From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:18:30 AM | Message Detail |
Well here we go kiddies :) Time for...
Steve Illumina Speaks
Thats
right, the infamous yet humorous commentary is back, to go with all the
rest of us here in this, the greatest of threads, the most worthy of
postings on this fanboy dominated board.
And so it continues, with a fairly predictable replay of Earthy & Doomy in the "Golden Age" Division
Match XVIII
(8)Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal/Platinum vs (9)Xenogears
Steve's Prediction: Pokemon by 58% Steve's Bracket: Pokemon Newbie's Pick: Pikachu! Upset Chances: Aint gonna catch em all!
Comments: Here we got Nintendo's money making machine of the late 90's, early 00's against a hardcore Square RPG
Above
I said this would be a replay of Earthy & Doomy. Well folks, it
is...and it wont be in Xeno's favor, as it was not in favor of Earthy a
few days back.
See Xenogears suffers from the 'I aint too
common' syndrome. It afflicts worthy and semi-worthy games in this
tourney and causes them to lose their 1st matches. It happened with
RCR. It happened with Earthbound. Its gonna happen again with Xenogears.
Say
what ya want about Pokemon...it sells still today. Not as much as in
its heyday sure, but still it sells well. It has a loyal following, but
it also has the fact that its known by 95% of gamers. That is all it
needs to take the match. To be known... Having the Nintendites backing
it wont hurt either. That merely seals the deal.
Crybaby
Xenoboys will say its cause there are 3 pokemon games going against
it...so they are outnumbered! You watch, some fanboy will post a post
like this tomorrow. If so, it is so pathetic I wont even reply to it
here. In the end, another cult bites the dust.
Probable Results: Pokemon takes it by 58%, in the range of Doom's not so surprise victory. Sorry Xeno...
Steve's
Moments: Pokemon: I played it at Gamestop for 5 min...and was like...I
am too old for this! Xenogears: It could have been so much more...
--- SC2K4: 15/17! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
From: cyko | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:44:49 AM | Message Detail |
well,
my Oracle Prediction of FF7 was for it to hit 83.54%. as of right now,
it's almost at that mark, but still climbing. it will probably finish
in the 85-87%. i don't thinnk too many people expected this to be a
blowout of epic proportions. Suikoden 2 really was a fantastic game.
as
for FF6 beating LTTP, i still see it as a possibility. despite facing a
much, much tougher opponent, FF6 did manage to get as many votes as
Super Metroid did against PS4. FF6 is not quite dead yet.
--- Current Score: 16/17 (through FF7 vs Suikoden 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:45:07 AM | Message Detail |
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #18 - (8) POKÉMON GOLD/SILVER/CRYSTAL vs. (9) XENOGEARS ***
XENOGEARS wants to fight! Go! POKÉMON!
Sales
XENOGEARS used CULT HIT! It's not very effective... POKÉMON used TOP 3 GAMEBOY COLOR GAMES! Critical hit! It's super effective!
- Advantage POKÉMON GSC.
Franchises
XENOGEARS used NO OTHER GAMES IN THE SERIES! Nothing happened! POKÉMON used BEST-SELLING PREQUELS AND SEQUELS! It's super effective!
- Advantage POKÉMON GSC.
GameFAQs Status
Number of FAQs: Pokémon GSC Number of reviews: Xenogears against each separate version, Pokémon GSC combined Average review score: Pokémon GSC Board activity: Xenogears against each separate version, Pokémon GSC combined
XENOGEARS used LOTS OF FAQS, GOOD REVIEWS AND BUSY BOARDS! Critical hit! POKÉMON used MORE FAQS, BETTER REVIEWS AND THREE BUSY BOARDS! It's super effective!
- Advantage POKÉMON GSC.
Board Odds Project
PICKS (out of 102) Xenogears - 61 Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal - 41
POINT VALUE 33. Xenogears - 61 38. Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal - 41
XENOGEARS used BOARD'S FAVORITE! POKÉMON used HONORABLE MENTION!
- Advantage XENOGEARS.
Summer Contest / Poll of the Day
XENOGEARS used PIKACHU LOST THE KIDDIE VOTE TO FREAKIN' FOX! It's super effective! POKÉMON used NEVER SEEN XENOGEARS IN ACTION!
- Advantage XENOGEARS.
Intangibles
XENOGEARS used POKÉMON IS SEEN AS KIDDIE BY LOTS OF PEOPLE! POKÉMON used THE GAMES ARE MORE LIKED THAN THE ANIME AND MOVIES! XENOGEARS's SPEED fell! POKÉMON used THE GAMES ARE MORE POPULAR THAN PIKACHU!
- TIE.
Conclusion: On the next episode! --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 012/016 --- Matches: 12/16 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF7 |
From: cyko | Posted: 4/18/2004 6:48:52 AM | Message Detail |
not a single thing changed with the FF6 vs. MK match.
Top 5 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)
1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda : LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 75.28% - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 4) 66.58% - Super Metroid over Phantasy Star 4 5) 64.60% - Super Mario Bros. 3 over Metal Gear*
Top 5 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)
1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 78272 - Legend of Zelda : LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 74682 - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 4) 61229 - Super Mario World over The Simpsons 5) 59648 - Sonic 2 over Shining Force
Top 5 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)
1) 0.14% - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 12.48% - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 3) 14.08% - Doom over Earthbound 4) 22.04% - Contra over Phantasy Star 5) 36.02% - Pong over River City Ransom
Top 5 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)
1) 143 - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 12076 - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 3) 12164 - Doom over Earthbound 4) 20080 - Contra over Phantasy Star 5) 26931 - Metroid over Pac-Man
Top 5 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)
1) 99194 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall 2) 97580 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure 3) 97285 - Super Mario World vs. The Simpsons 4) 97126 - Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force 5) 97031 - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt
Top 5 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)
1) 72743 - Metroid vs. Pac-Man * 2) 74556 - Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metal Gear * 3) 84501 - Tetris vs. Galaga 4) 84664 - Super Metroid vs. Phantasy Star 4 5) 84804 - Pong vs. River City Ransom
Top 5 Highest Individual Votes
1) 92894 - Legend of Zelda 2) 86938 - Final Fantasy 3) 86690 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP 4) 79257 - Super Mario World 5) 78387 - Sonic 2
Top 5 Lowest Individual Votes
1) 4686 - Adventure 2) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes 3) 12256 - Pitfall 4) 13197 - Metal Gear 5) 14144 - Phantasy Star 4
Top 5 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)
1) 48444 - Duck Hunt 2) 42314 - Street Fighter 2 3) 37127 - Earthbound 4) 35513 - Phantasy Star 5) 27130 - River City Ransom
Top 5 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)
1) 48587 - Donkey Kong 2) 49291 - Doom 3) 49837 - Metroid * 4) 54390 - Super Mario RPG 5) 55593 - Contra
Top 5 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)
1) no data yet, but soon!!! 2) 3) 4) 5)
Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner)
1) no data yet...... hopefully soon......... please.......... 2) 3) 4) 5)
* = shared PotD with GameRiot poll
--- Current Score: 16/17 (through FF7 vs Suikoden 2) ?????/????? with ???? other people A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
From: SecondBest | Posted: 4/18/2004 7:16:00 AM | Message Detail |
Forget
LttP over FFVI--look for it to beat Chrono Trigger. Chrono Trigger is
not an automatic magnet for Square support--a lot of post 16-bit gamers
don't even know it was made by the same company as their beloved Final
Fantasies. Of course, Zelda will suffer from the loss of some automatic
Nintendo support votes, and Chrono Cross really can't help matters.
Nevertheless, look for A Link to the Past to take it on name
recognition alone. --- There's always someone better. |
From: smitelf | Posted: 4/18/2004 7:54:08 AM | Message Detail |
Match Review: Final Fantasy VI vs. Mortal Kombat
Sorry,
Final Fantasy VI, but you failed to impress me. I was expecting you to
get 75% at the least and you disappointed. You may very well get
creamed by LttP in Round 3. My faith has been shaken.
Match Preview: Pokemon G/S/C vs. Xenogears
Pokemon:
Gotta catch 'em all! Yes, I will admit I was once a Pokemon addict. I
still say it's a fun game and worthy of being in this contest, and
apparently several people agree. This is where my GameBoy Color
nomination went (my GameBoy nomination went to Tetris <_<) and I
really feel that it's being underestimated as an opponent for
Xenogears. Slowflake has pretty much outlined the game's strengths
already so go read his post.
Xenogears: An RPG, and a Square one
at that. However, it's not as popular as a Final Fantasy game might be
and I doubt I'm the only one who despises the second disc.
In
the end, Xenogears may be a Square RPG but it doesn't have "Final
Fantasy" or "Mario" in the name and it isn't Crono Trigger. I've
already said several times why Pikachu =/= Pokemon so let's just not
comment on 02/03. If Pokemon is so hated around here then why do so
many Pokemon games have a place on the top FAQs list?
My prediction: Pokemon 55%, Xenogears 45%
My dirty secret: I liked Pokemon Snap. So sue me! --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 16/16, Next Winner: Final Fantasy VII |
From: Rukawa3 | Posted: 4/18/2004 8:05:29 AM | Message Detail |
Now,
i was pretty confident with Xenogears chances until now.(BTW, i've
never played it) Seems like all the "elites" are siding with pikachu
and friends. Now, let's hope the anti P guys can get the job done. Oh yea, i liked Pokemon Snap too. I just recently bought it from gamestop. For $3.63 it's not a big deal at all. --- Fable > *insert a game here* |
From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/18/2004 8:10:44 AM | Message Detail |
Match 18 preview:
1
point match - FF7 thrashes the winner. Who will this be though? No
idea. I've given up trying to predict as I seem to be getting all the
close ones wrong. I'm leaning towards Pokemon for now even though I
have Xenogears on my bracket. --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13664903 14/16 Next: FF7 |
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/18/2004 9:35:38 AM | Message Detail |
Match #16 Review:
Whoa!
FFVI did a lot worse than I expected...perhaps Mortal Kombat was a
worthy opponent after all. However, this match just reinforces my
opinion that FFVI doesn't stand a chance in hell against LttP.
Match #18 Preview:
I'm sick of the hype for this match. Just sick of it.
People
are overestimating the Pokemon anti-vote way, way too much. STOP USING
PIKACHU AS PROOF THAT POKEMON IS GOING TO LOSE. Even most Pokefans hate
the stupid rat (including me) and voted against him in 2003.
If
everybody hates the game so much, then why is Pokemon at the top of the
FAQ and message board listings for the Game Boy, Game Boy Color, AND
Game Boy Advance? It's simple, people: POKEMON IS POPULAR ON THIS SITE.
Get it into your head. Read that statement as many times as you'd like
until you finally understand it.
That's not to say that there
won't be any Pokemon anti-votes, but who, outside of a few 10 year-olds
who think it's cool to hate the series, is going to vote out of pure
spite? The answer is: they won't.
Need more proof? Here's some:
If Xenogears is any more well-known than Earthbound or River City Ransom, then shoot the horse and slap me silly.
Xenogears
is a cult classic. Note the word "cult". In other words, the only
reason it was given such a high seed is because the "cult" all
"nominated" for "it". I don't think I need gratuitious "quotation
marks" to tell you that the average voter will see Pokemon on one side,
see some game they've never heard of on the other side, get all
nostalgic about collecting the li'l monsters, and vote for the Gold,
Silver, and Crysal versions.
In other words, Pokemon has a major advantage in every aspect of this match aside from a couple of anti-votes.
Pokemon will win. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/18/2004 12:18:50 PM | Message Detail |
*bumps* --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
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