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| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:17:54 AM | Message Detail |
| I
could see it happening. Really. And even if it were to get slightly
above 70%, I wouldn't be impressed to the extent LttP is impressing me
today. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 008/011 --- Matches: 08/11 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMW |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:18:46 AM | Message Detail |
| I would really, really doubt FFVI getting below or at 70%. --- "Cyrus, this be our finest battle..." - Frog (Chrono Trigger) SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:20:03 AM | Message Detail |
| But Zero, c'mon, Zero, he got 62% on Scorpion. And in a match between someone like Crono or Samus, Zero would get 45-46%. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 008/011 --- Matches: 08/11 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMW |
| From: dethaddr | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:20:48 AM | Message Detail |
| I'm
not impressed by LttP today. Gunstar Heroes isn't exactly on the same
playing field as LttP. I prefer the original Zelda (which I still play)
to LttP (which I don't play) --- Welcome to GameFAQs, the land where your opinion DOESN'T matter. -Xenobi |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:21:53 AM | Message Detail |
| I
could see it happening. Really. And even if it were to get slightly
above 70%, I wouldn't be impressed to the extent LttP is impressing me
today. You are really underestimating FFVI. I don't find LttP's victory today terribly impressive, anyway. Against Gunstar Heroes it is performing as it should, no more, no less. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Score: 12/12, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:21:54 AM | Message Detail |
| I`ve
been saying this since day one. We`re all idiots for picking SM3 and CT
over the two Zeldas, and I`m an idiot for allowing myself to listen to
you all and change my bracket. --- MIASU! I mean, everytime you guys *****, moan, complain, whine, and other things...it actually gives me a hard-on. -Smokin |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:22:38 AM | Message Detail |
| I really, really doubt the Simpsons are on the same playing field as SMW either. Yet it still got near 20%. 91-9 puts LttP around Link/AiAi. And I really doubt AiAi is quite on the same field as Gunstar Heroes. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 008/011 --- Matches: 08/11 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMW |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:23:54 AM | Message Detail |
| I
wouldn't be surprised if Zelda beat SMB3, Ulti, but I'd have to be
convinced more to believe that LttP is getting past CT even if it does
get past FFVI. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Score: 12/12, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:24:59 AM | Message Detail |
| I`ll
agree that LttP`s performance today is going as expected not really
doing better than what I expected or worse just right at. Although,
FFVI getting below and or at 70% is going to take a whole lot more
convincing than just the fact that Scorpion managed to do well agains
Zero. Seriously, if SMRPG can beat SFII by what 56% and considering
FFVI is by far more popular than SMRPG. I don`t see FFVI performing at
that level, I can see it doing better. And twice so far the Zelda games have had very weak opponents. --- "Cyrus, this be our finest battle..." - Frog (Chrono Trigger) SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:25:34 AM | Message Detail |
| Exactly
Slowflake. We all underestimated Link again. I`m going to kick myself
square in the nuts once that Ct/LTTP match rolls around, because I can
easily see LTTP scoring a solid 60% on it. --- MIASU! I mean, everytime you guys *****, moan, complain, whine, and other things...it actually gives me a hard-on. -Smokin |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:26:44 AM | Message Detail |
| I
would like to take this opporotunity to say that smitelf is going to
get absolutely served come Pokémon/Xenogears. No reason, of course.
Just feel like saying it. --- MIASU! I mean, everytime you guys *****, moan, complain, whine, and other things...it actually gives me a hard-on. -Smokin |
| From: Yesmar | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:27:48 AM | Message Detail |
| Yesmar's Contest Comments: Day 13: 4/14/04 ·Like Slowflake, I don't expect Final Fantasy VI to get 90% on Mortal Kombat, but if it can't get at least 70%, it's chances are pretty much numbereed · Heck, at this point I'm getting a little worried about Chrono Trigger beating LTTP. I guess I'll just have to wait until CT Vs. SMRPG to have me doubts erased. · It appears as if Zelda games are the Megaman of this tournament. It would be funny if all of the games managed to get 90+% blowouts, but I highly doubt OoT will and there is no chance of Wind Waker getting that much on Skies of Arcadia. --- Heh Heh... The wind... It is blowing...--Ganondorf |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:30:34 AM | Message Detail |
| And
on top of that, LttP isn't the strongest Zelda in the tournament, and I
don't see any of them, including OoT, being quite at the level where
Link is. As far as FF6/MK goes, let's just sit down and wait. I really, really think people see a threat when there's none, but if you want to see it as a threat, I got no problem with that. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 008/011 --- Matches: 08/11 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMW |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:32:08 AM | Message Detail |
| Like I said yesterday, LTTP has a bye straight into the finals, which I friggen saw in black and white before coming to this board. Sometimes I hate this place. --- MIASU! I mean, everytime you guys *****, moan, complain, whine, and other things...it actually gives me a hard-on. -Smokin |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:33:33 AM | Message Detail |
| I`m
just not, or failing too, see what exactly both of these Zelda`s are
doing. One gets 95% on the weakest game in the contest, the other gets
90% on another weak game in the contest, and I fully expect OoT to
break 90% again but against another weak entry into the contest. When LttP, LoZ, and OoT can have their go at someone whose worth facing I`ll start to maybe think about them beating out games like CT and SMB3. Although, while I do expect FFVI to do well against MK I don`t expect it to win against LttP, sadly. --- "Cyrus, this be our finest battle..." - Frog (Chrono Trigger) SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:33:55 AM | Message Detail |
| I
would like to take this opporotunity to say that smitelf is going to
get absolutely served come Pokémon/Xenogears. No reason, of course.
Just feel like saying it. You may be right, Ulti, but I cannot in good conscience stake my bracket on the second most disappointing game I have ever played. It would make me feel as unclean as voting for Big Rigs. Besides, WHO has the perfect bracket right now? Hmm? --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Score: 12/12, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:44:06 AM | Message Detail |
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| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/14/2004 9:48:39 AM | Message Detail |
| Like
I said yesterday, LTTP has a bye straight into the finals, which I
friggen saw in black and white before coming to this board. Sometimes I
hate this place. Believe what you want. If FFVI gets 75-80% (and I have no reason to expect otherwise) we should be in for a close match between it and LttP. I'll go further than Slowflake and say that if FFVI doesn't get 75% or above then it's totally screwed. And, I forget to add, I wish you hadn't changed your bracket, Ulti. If you hadn't, I would be able to beat you all the more soundly, but I suppose the decent beating I will be able to give you will have to suffice instead. In case you're slow, I'm just goading you, don't get offended...although one thing I will say about you is that you're one of the few people around here who can recognize humor without "jk" being put down afterward --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Score: 12/12, Next Winner: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/14/2004 10:01:48 AM | Message Detail |
| It
appears as if Zelda games are the Megaman of this tournament. It would
be funny if all of the games managed to get 90+% blowouts, but I highly
doubt OoT will and there is no chance of Wind Waker getting that much
on Skies of Arcadia. Fallout 2 will be destroyed by 90% against Ocarina. Its all name recognition... I agree with u on Skies...that will fall by 80% --- SC2K4: 12/14 Points! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/14/2004 10:09:55 AM | Message Detail |
| Well here we go kiddies :) Time for... Steve Illumina Speaks Thats right, the infamous yet humorous commentary is back, to go with all the rest of us here in this, the greatest of threads, the most worthy of postings on this fanboy dominated board. And so it continues, with the 4th of 4 softy tuneups in the "Greatest Generation" Division Match XIV (3)Super Metroid vs (14)Phantasy Star IV Steve's Prediction: Supercalifragilisticexpaelidocious Metroid by 88% Steve's Bracket: Metroid Newbie's Pick: Ditto. Upset Chances: Sorry. Try tomorrow! Comments: Here we got the last of 4 blowouts in a row...yawn...Super Metroid taking on Phantasy Star IV EGM's #1 game of all time, and a worthy #3 seed here, taking on a Genesis RPG so forgotten that Shining Force got more votes and a better seed. So forgotten it was left out of the GBA Phantasy Star Collection. So forgotten a V never came out for 32x or Saturn or Nomad or Game Gear or Neptune or Dreamcast. These results will not be so forgotten...as Samus Aran, not satisfied after her initial run knocking off an Icon, will take out a pretender to the prestigious Genesis RPG throne. Goodbye Phantasy Star... Probable Results: Metroid...88%...take it to the credit union! P Star just cant compete with this fine game. Steve's Moments: Super Metroid: Please port this to GBA! 'Yes they will, next year', says my Magic 8 Ball. P Star: Underappreciated by today's Squaresoft youth! I liked it though! --- SC2K4: 12/14 Points! Read my Satirical Contest Commentary! Steve Illumina: Standing tall against fanboys for over 20 years |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/14/2004 1:15:08 PM | Message Detail |
| Squaresoft youth! Not all Square fans started out on FFVII. I started back in 1987 on the original Final Fantasy. ;P --- "The Reaper is always just a step behind me..." SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/14/2004 1:28:09 PM | Message Detail |
| *** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #14 - (3) SUPER METROID vs. (14) PHANTASY STAR 4 *** Sales Can PS4's cruisers repel sale numbers of this magnitude? I think not. Super Metroid was what put Samus on the map for the most part. Although, to PS4's credit, the series were gaining steam at that point too. - Advantage SUPER METROID. Franchises Those who picked Phantasy Star over Contra, like me, expected a miracle through sheer franchise power. It never came. Meanwhile, Metroid's gotta be one of Nintendo's most famous franchises, just behind Mario and Zelda. And one could argue that on GameFAQs it's giving Mario a run for its money. - Advantage SUPER METROID. GameFAQs Status Number of FAQs: Super Metroid Number of reviews: Super Metroid Average review score: Super Metroid Board activity: Super Metroid Wow. Usually RPGs will put up a fight here... but not today. Take a look at the reviews for Super Metroid... the amount of 10s there is just staggering. PS4 has a lot too... but not as hallucination-inducing as the opponent. - Advantage SUPER METROID. Board Odds Project PICKS (out of 102) Super Metroid - 102 POINT VALUE 20. Super Metroid - 154 57. Phantasy Star 4 - 0 Third shutout in a row. Boring. - Advantage SUPER METROID. Summer Contests / Polls of the Day Super Metroid is, of course, the most popular game in a very popular series (though Prime isn't that far either). And Samus reaching the Elite 8 twice in the Summer Contest is just the icing on the cake. Please dig my corpse up the day Phantasy Star 39 can make that claim. - Advantage SUPER METROID. Intangibles Quite frankly, I can't think of anything that hasn't been covered. Yes, I know, PS4 is an RPG. So what? RPG =/= win, even at GameFAQs. It's going to get its ass kicked. - Advantage SUPER METROID. Conclusion: Here belongs Crono's script. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 009/012 --- Matches: 09/12 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LttP |
| From: TyRaNuS | Posted: 4/14/2004 1:40:48 PM | Message Detail |
| I just realized that there is good chance there could be a all zelda final four(I'm not saying it will happen) LoZ-The only big match for it is against Mario which we've seen how zelda vs mario turned with link crushing Mario in the first contest. I'm not saying it will be a blowout, but it will be around the low 50's. LttP-I think if it can beat FF3, then its going to the final four because final fantasy and zelda have been the two big powerhouses in this tournament and I don't think Crono Trigger stands much of a chance if it can barely beat Mario. OoT-The best Zelda game today and its only real challenge is against FF7, but I think it will win that and go on to win the whole thing. WW-This game is the least likely of all of the zelda games above to make to the final four. I think it will make it to the divisional finals at least. Then it will have to beat FFX or SSBM. --- Currently playing- Fire Emblem(GBA)Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/14/2004 1:43:05 PM | Message Detail |
| You're forgetting something very, very important. FF6 isn't anywhere near as popular as FF7, while LttP is much closer to OoT. And ironically, the only Zelda I have in the Final 4 is, as you worded it, "the least likely of them all", Wind Waker. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 009/012 --- Matches: 09/12 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LttP |
| From: TyRaNuS | Posted: 4/14/2004 1:57:45 PM | Message Detail |
| Most
zelda would say OoT is better than LttP just like most ff fans would
say FF7 is better than FF3. Oot and LttP is probably closer, but not
that much closer as you said. Still, I think LttP could beat FF7 --- Currently playing- Fire Emblem(GBA)Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/14/2004 2:02:32 PM | Message Detail |
| Yes,
they are that much closer. Both FF7 and OoT got 36% in the latest
"favorite of the series" polls. But while LttP got a very respectable
26%, FF6 was left to rot with 14%... and it was still second. And even there, don't quote me on that, but I think that if FF6 and FF10 went head-to-head, with no FF7 to suck votes, FF10 would barely win. I just get the feeling FF6 and FF7 got two radically different fanbases, while Zelda seems more ****geneous. (Dang these censors.) --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 009/012 --- Matches: 09/12 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LttP |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/14/2004 2:05:52 PM | Message Detail |
| smitelf: Same here but I still don't see how any other game in its bracket could touch it. What CT's performance *could* mean is its demise against SMB3. I really don't think so...I am extremely confident that A Link to the Past would dismantle SMB3 without too much difficulty. Final Fantasy VI would have a great shot against SMB3 as well. I could definitely see Chrono Trigger not winning the 16 division--as I said before the contest, it seemed over-favored to win its division. I could see Secret of Mana pulling 75% against Gunstar Heroes though, so Chrono Trigger can definitely still beat A Link to the Past. One big question is whether or not Chrono Trigger benefitted significantly from SFF, because if it took SFF for Chrono Trigger to score that performance against Secret of Mana, it's in trouble against A Link to the Past. Heroic Mario: and I fully expect OoT to break 90% again but against another weak entry into the contest Now THAT would impress me. A Link to the Past's performance was entirely expected. Fallout 2 however is not a trivial opponenet or nearly as obscure as Gunstar Heroes, it's a very well respected PC RPG that is well known and oft talked about in PC circles. Remember that it is astounding for any PC game to have made it given this nomination system. Fallout 2 is underseeded. If Ocarina of Time can get 90% against Fallout 2, that would be "simply amazing", in the words of Papa Smurf. Slowflake: Can PS4's cruisers repel sale numbers of this magnitude? Hah! Nice one :) Super Metroid was what put Samus on the map for the most part Not true at all...Samus was basically universally known among NES fans. The original Metroid was probably more successful and popular in its own time than Super Metroid, actually, though that's just a guess and I couldn't find any data to back in up. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: TyRaNuS | Posted: 4/14/2004 2:20:15 PM | Message Detail |
| Here's what I think OoT>FF7>LTTP>>FF3 I might change though depending on FF3, FF7 and OoT's performances in their first 2 rounds. --- Currently playing- Fire Emblem(GBA)Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/14/2004 3:13:09 PM | Message Detail |
| I
really don't think so...I am extremely confident that A Link to the
Past would dismantle SMB3 without too much difficulty. Final Fantasy VI
would have a great shot against SMB3 as well. Under normal circumstances CT would beat SMB3 but when it comes to Chrono’s game against what could very well be Mario’s most popular game – well, we all know that Crono and Mario have a very special history together which would make this match behave abnormally. Fans of both series may be a bit more vehement than they would be without that history…I expect vote totals to be abnormally high for obvious reasons on that day, if the SMB3 vs. CT match occurs. I could definitely see Chrono Trigger not winning the 16 division--as I said before the contest, it seemed over-favored to win its division. I could see Secret of Mana pulling 75% against Gunstar Heroes though, so Chrono Trigger can definitely still beat A Link to the Past. I agree with the latter comment. I keep saying that LttP is not performing as wonderfully today as some seem to think; if LttP wasn’t getting 90% then it would be disappointing. As for CT *not* winning its division, anything is possible but I think it is the heavy favorite for good reason. I'll feel more sure of my footing with CT after Final Fantasy VII vs. Suikoden II. If Ocarina of Time can get 90% against Fallout 2, that would be "simply amazing", in the words of Papa Smurf. I disagree. It’s a PC game and could score very impressively against OoT on another site (perhaps even win) but I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if OoT scored 90% on it. Disgusted, yes, but not surprised. Still, I agree that such a score is on the high end of what OoT could possibly accomplish. We have yet to see a PC game in action so it’s too early to say exactly what sort of support they may be able to scrounge up around here. I’ll wait until the conclusion of Earthbound vs. Doom to really start thinking about this match but I think Fallout 2 should be able to get 15-18% of the vote. I hope for more, since Fallout 2 is the superior game (keep in mind that I prefer PC games in general). --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 12/12, Next Winner: A Link to the Past |
| From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/14/2004 3:57:07 PM | Message Detail |
| Match #12 Review: The Simpsons' TV show fanbase proved to be a non-factor. Pretty boring match. Match #14 Preview: Super Metroid wins in a blowout. Just bring on Earthbound vs. Doom already! --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/14/2004 5:16:06 PM | Message Detail |
| Holy
****... LttP is absolutely dismantling Gunstar Heroes. FF6 will be
ridiculously hard-pressed to do that good against MK, all proportions
kept of course. Then again, I never thought FF6 could beat LttP, but
for those who do... do not pass Go, do not collect 4 points and kiss
your bracket goodbye. Now CT vs. LttP should be the point of interest.
I wouldn't favor either game at the moment, though I'm still slightly
disappointed by CT's showing. Gunstar Heroes is easily (and unfortunately) the most obscure and least played game in this division (except maybe PS4). it's so unknown that several commentators in this topic didn't know anything about the game and a few never even heard of it. Gunstar Heroes was overseeded, while LTTP was underseeded; making for a lopsided match that belonged to a 1 vs. 16 or a 2 vs 15. taking that into consideration, no, a 90% victory is not that impressive; it was expected. now, FF6 has a mucher tougher first round match in the far more recognizable Mortal Kombat. considering the daytime pounding that SMRPG gave SF2, FF6 should be able to put even more of a beatdown on MK, but MK will draw a lot more votes than Gunstar Heroes could have. if the matches were reversed, i'd be willing to bet that FF6 could've also broke 90%. so, it appears that FF6 is expected to reach 70-75%. that makes sense, since in SC2K2, Link beat Scorpion with 76%. any more than that, though, and LTTP is in for a major fight. FF6 will not bend over for LTTP. the more interesting thing is to see if Super Metroid can break 90% against the almost as unknown Phantasy Star 4. if that happens, every match involving LTTP will be very close. and a fantastic show of exploding fanboyism. Looks like SMW barely did better against the Simpsons than Sonic 2 against Shining Force. I'd tend to think Shining Force is the harder opponent... what do you think on that? Is this a sign of Sonic 2 beating SMW (and removing a Mario game in the way of CT)? i'm still not sure which is stronger between those two losing games. Shining Force may be an RPG, but it's series is probably less known than Phantasy Star. the Simpsons is extremely more recognizable and still a fun game. so, i would lean slightly towards the Simpsons. as for Mario vs. Sonic, i still have a hard time picturing Sonic taking down Mario on a site that is so pro-Nintendo. but after their respective first round performances, i think their match will be closer to 55/45 than the 60/40 split i previously thought. But Zero, c'mon, Zero, he got 62% on Scorpion. And in a match between someone like Crono or Samus, Zero would get 45-46%. what's your point here, Slowflake? Zero performed quite impressively last year. Zero almost beat Sonic, losing by 4700 with almost 48% of the vote. in fact, Zero did better against Sonic in Round 2 than Aeris did against Sonic in Round 3. and all of that was while Sonic had 60% of the brackets behind him and Zero had 20-30% of the brackets. if anything, that proves that Scorpion and Mortal Kombat are not pushover fodder in the same category as Adventure and Gunstar Heroes. --- Current Score: 14/14 (through Super Metroid vs. PS4) Tied for 1st place with ????? other users. A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: redline15 | Posted: 4/14/2004 6:01:36 PM | Message Detail |
| ...i think some of you are overreacting to these zelda scores. in 2002 mega man got 92.3% against ms. pac man. then he got 91.84% against serious sam. then he was narrowly beaten by sephiroth...who was solidly beaten by link. and the best cloud could do last year was 86.91%... i can still see ff6 beating lttp. i can still see smb3 beating loz. zelda may look pretty strong...but looks can be deceiving. ...although i have pretty much lost all hope of super metroid beating lttp... --- signature (n.): a line of random gibberish that no one ever reads. |
| From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/14/2004 6:08:49 PM | Message Detail |
| Whew, I can`t find one thing to disagree with in your post Cyko. =) In other words, I agree completely with what he said. --- "The Reaper is always just a step behind me..." SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger |
| From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/14/2004 6:15:32 PM | Message Detail |
| On my bracket, none of the Zelda games make the final 4. And I'm happy with that. SMB3 should still beat LoZ, if Tetris doesn't. I think LoZ probably has the best shot of getting to the final 4. LttP will lose in a close match to FF6. Sure, FF6 is less popular than FF7, but you need to look at the series as well here. I believe there are more FF fans than Zelda fans here, but we'll see. FF7 is winning the whole tournament, sorry, OoT is gone. Unfortunate, but I believe it'll happen. WW I have losing to MP. This'll be a good match though. Yep, just my opinion. Gotta remember I never do well in these contests, struggling to around 100 points in the first two. Guess this means all 4 are locks for the final 4. :D --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13621462 12/13 Next: SM. |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/14/2004 6:23:37 PM | Message Detail |
| Hey,
Ringworm, I agree with 3/4 of your picks. I don't see Wind Waker losing
to Metroid Prime but it is possible. I think that the power of the
Zelda name will prove too much for Metroid regardless of how awesome or
not so awesome Wind Waker was by itself. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 12/12, Next Winner: A Link to the Past |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/14/2004 7:14:14 PM | Message Detail |
| We've
known from the beginning that there was an excellent chance that every
Zelda game could lose on back-to-back-to-back-to-back days in the Elite
Eight. The boards will be absolutely insane if that happens--and if the first 3 Zelda games lose and Wind Waker is in its division finals, no doubt you'll have a bunch of people who don't understand how these contests work screaming about how Wind Waker will benefit from "last chance for the franchise" votes, or whatever you call them. I myself find it very upsetting that all 4 Zelda games could go out like that, which is yet another reason I'm desperately hoping The Legend of Zelda can defeat SMB3. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/14/2004 7:20:17 PM | Message Detail |
| no
doubt you'll have a bunch of people who don't understand how these
contests work screaming about how Wind Waker will benefit from "last
chance for the franchise" votes, or whatever you call them. Funny you should say that, because I was thinking the exact same thing. But if WW vs. FF10 is as close as I think it's going to be, it just might be the difference maker if the margin is Mario/Crono-like. It's still an edge FF10 won't have, because in that scenario FF7 already makes the Final 4. And to cyko's last comment: My point was that people thought too little of MK. I remember Lettuce Kefka saying that LttP would waste FF6 if FF6 didn't get 80% on MK, when in fact if it happened FF6 would win the whole tourney right there. And of course, after Kefka's debacle last year and FF6 getting killed time after time in favorite FF polls while LttP is able to keep up with OoT, I'm not ready to put much stock into FF6 anyway. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 009/012 --- Matches: 09/12 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LttP |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/14/2004 8:09:53 PM | Message Detail |
| And
to cyko's last comment: My point was that people thought too little of
MK. I remember Lettuce Kefka saying that LttP would waste FF6 if FF6
didn't get 80% on MK, when in fact if it happened FF6 would win the
whole tourney right there. okay, gotcha, Slow. we are in agreement on that one, then. ^_^ --- Current Score: 14/14 (through Super Metroid vs. PS4) Tied for 1st place with ????? other users. A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/14/2004 10:01:52 PM | Message Detail |
| And,
I forget to add, I wish you hadn't changed your bracket, Ulti. If you
hadn't, I would be able to beat you all the more soundly, but I suppose
the decent beating I will be able to give you will have to suffice
instead. In case you're slow, I'm just goading you, don't get offended...although one thing I will say about you is that you're one of the few people around here who can recognize humor without "jk" being put down afterward I didn`t know you were joking, and had already stabbed myself 692 times in the left eye before realizing it was a joke. --- MIASU! I mean, everytime you guys *****, moan, complain, whine, and other things...it actually gives me a hard-on. -Smokin |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/14/2004 10:05:40 PM | Message Detail |
| I didn`t know you were joking, and had already stabbed myself 692 times in the left eye before realizing it was a joke. Good work smitelf. <gives the thumbs up> --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: redline15 | Posted: 4/14/2004 10:08:28 PM | Message Detail |
| smitelf is officially the coolest person in this topic. --- signature (n.): a line of random gibberish that no one ever reads. |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/14/2004 10:09:34 PM | Message Detail |
| Yeah,
but smitelf is engaged to MWIS, so she clearly has the raw end of the
deal here. With two functioning eyes, she has to see all of Ace. "I"
(omg the wordplay!!!!!) on the other hand only have to deal with half
of him >_> AND YES I`M KIDDING PLEASE DO NOT TAKE OFFENSE MWIS. --- MIASU! I mean, everytime you guys *****, moan, complain, whine, and other things...it actually gives me a hard-on. -Smokin |
| From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/14/2004 10:10:51 PM | Message Detail |
| Is this a complete cesspool of anti-Ulti sentiment? I shall smite you all with my new creation. Behold.... LIMECAT!! (www.limecat.net) --- MIASU! I mean, everytime you guys *****, moan, complain, whine, and other things...it actually gives me a hard-on. -Smokin |
| From: creativename | Posted: 4/14/2004 10:11:07 PM | Message Detail |
| I posted this in GunMage's topic for Earthbound vs. Doom, and I'll repost it here: Interesting to note that this match might give some information on later matches involving PC games, such as Ocarina of Time vs. Fallout 2 and Halo vs. Starcraft. If Doom does prevail, then that might indicate stronger performances for Fallout 2 and Starcraft. However, that isn't clear cut. If Earthbound beats Doom that might indicate that relatively obscure, cult fanbase RPGs can do well, and Fallout 2 is more well known than Earthbound. Also, it might indicate weakness on the part of First Person Shooters. In the end such analysis of match repurcussions is probably unnecessary over-analysis though. As for Super Metroid vs. Phantasy Star IV...I'm thinking Phantasy Star IV might avoid total PWNage here because the first Phantasy Star did get almost 40% against Contra, and Contra is a good opponent. The original Phantasy Star would be much weaker than Phantasy Star IV and was on a far weaker system. Its franchise probably helped its performance. But, Super Metroid is a juggernaut, and while Phantasy Star IV might be stronger than Shining Force, Super Metroid is presumably stronger than Sonic 2. The end result shouldn't be that different from Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force. --- Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4! SC2K4.com |
| From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/15/2004 3:47:29 AM | Message Detail |
| Look at that last sentence of yours, Creativename, and tell me why I shouldn't worship you as my new god. Wait, there's nothing there. I made that kind of perfect prediction once. ;) Okay, so SM isn't doing any better or worse than I was expecting. LttP making Gunstar Heroes look like AiAi is still stunning me though. Some people here talked about how WW would never be able to pull 90% on SoA, and it's painfully obvious... given how Vyse performed last year, I'd say a score in the 70-75 window would be pretty good. Higher than that and Prime and FF10 are in for a world of pain. --- SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 009/012 --- Matches: 09/12 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: LttP |
| From: cyko | Posted: 4/15/2004 4:43:17 AM | Message Detail |
Top 5 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage) 1) 90.40% - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 82.30% - Legend of Zelda : LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 75.28% - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 4) 64.60% - Super Mario Bros. 3 over Metal Gear 5) 62.94% - Super Mario World over The Simpsons Top 5 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes) 1) 88208 - Legend of Zelda over Adventure 2) 78272 - Legend of Zelda : LTTP over Gunstar Heroes 3) 74682 - Final Fantasy over Pitfall 4) 61229 - Super Mario World over The Simpsons 5) 59648 - Sonic 2 over Shining Force Top 5 Closest Matches (difference in percentage) 1) 0.14% - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 12.48% - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 3) 22.04% - Contra over Phantasy Star 4) 36.02% - Pong over River City Ransom 5) 37.02% - Metroid over Pac-Man Top 5 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes) 1) 143 - Donkey Kong over Duck Hunt 2) 12076 - Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter 2 3) 20080 - Contra over Phantasy Star 4) 26931 - Metroid over Pac-Man 5) 30544 - Pong over River City Ransom Top 5 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals) 1) 99194 - Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall 2) 97580 - Legend of Zelda vs. Adventure 3) 97285 - Super Mario World vs. The Simpsons 4) 97126 - Sonic 2 vs. Shining Force 5) 97031 - Donkey Kong vs. Duck Hunt Top 5 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals) 1) 72743 - Metroid vs. Pac-Man * 2) 74556 - Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Metal Gear * 3) 84501 - Tetris vs. Galaga 4) 84804 - Pong vs. River City Ransom 5) 90307 - Chrono Trigger vs. Secret of Mana Top 5 Highest Individual Votes 1) 92894 - Legend of Zelda 2) 86938 - Final Fantasy 3) 86690 - Legend of Zelda: LTTP 4) 79257 - Super Mario World 5) 78387 - Sonic 2 Top 5 Lowest Individual Votes 1) 4686 - Adventure 2) 8418 - Gunstar Heroes 3) 12256 - Pitfall 4) 13197 - Metal Gear 5) 18028 - The Simpsons Top 5 Most Impressive Losers (by votes) 1) 48444 - Duck Hunt 2) 42314 - Street Fighter 2 3) 35513 - Phantasy Star 4) 27130 - River City Ransom 5) 22906 - Pac-Man Top 5 Least Impressive Winners (by votes) 1) 48587 - Donkey Kong 2) 49837 - Metroid 3) 54390 - Super Mario RPG 4) 55593 - Contra 5) 57674 - Pong Top 5 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner) 1) no data yet 2) 3) 4) 5) Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the winner) 1) no data yet 2) 3) 4) 5) * = shared PotD with GameRiot poll --- Current Score: 14/14 (through Super Metroid vs. PS4) Tied for 1st place with ????? other users. A WINNER of Trivia 12 |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/15/2004 6:24:12 AM | Message Detail |
| Is this a complete cesspool of anti-Ulti sentiment? It took you this long to figure that out? --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 12/12, Next Winner: A Link to the Past |
| From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/15/2004 6:50:02 AM | Message Detail |
| Any
chance of italicising new entries in the top 5 lists? I know it's a bit
extra work, but it helps find which categories the previous match is in
(if any). Match 15 preview: Tough match to predict. It's quite even so far in the betting topic, and I seem to remember a board poll a month or so back which was dead even too. I'm playing EB now though, the question is how many other people here have played it? I'm guessing a reasonable amount. Casual votes should go to Doom, if such a thing exists. You could say Doom inspired all the other FPS games, and made the genre popular. Yet another reason I'm voting for Earthbound - I don't really like first person shooters. The reason I picked EB for the win though is the fact it managed a 7 seed. Not bad for the SNES, one of the most popular systems with games. Must have quite a few fans. Could go into the fact Doom is a FPS, PC game, whilst EB is a SNES RPG and other stuff, but I'm too lazy, and I guess someone else will. You know which is more popular here generally. I'd say EB will win with about 53% of the vote. I'll be voting for it anyway. Match 11-14 review: Boring in the majority. Margins were much as I expected, thought Super Metroid might do a bit better though. Winners were obvious. --- Betting: http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13636542 13/14 Next: Earthbound! |
| From: smitelf | Posted: 4/15/2004 7:55:00 AM | Message Detail |
| Match Review: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past vs. Gunstar Heroes LttP crushed Gunstar Heroes - as it should. Link and his games are becoming notorious for the blowouts they can hand out to very weak competitors. LttP did as well as was expected, no more, no less. It has shown its strength but I am not convinced that this match heralds the apocalypse for Final Fantasy VI or, especially, Chrono Trigger. Match Preview: Earthbound vs. Doom Finally, an interesting match! There's no clear winner in this match but I'm betting on Doom. Here's why: Earthbound: An RPG. However, Fallout 2 is also an RPG and is probably as well-known or moreso than Earthbound. This is one of the instances where I believe seeding will prove to be deceiving; the Earthbound "cultists" who nominated it made up a far larger percentage of the users nominating than they will of the users voting. Earthbound may be an RPG but it has little name recognition among the common gamer and that will be its downfall, just as it has been for many other games already. Doom: An FPS, yes. However, it is one of the very first of its genre and very well-known. This didn't help Street Fighter II much but SFII was against a well-known game. Earthbound is no SMRPG. It is NOT made by Square and does NOT have "Mario" or "RPG" in the title. Regardless of how many voters have liked (or even played) Doom, it has the undeniable name recognition advantage. I'm not convinced that being an RPG is enough to lead a game to victory. Earthbound will go the way of Phantasy Star in a match that will break many winning streaks -- but hopefully not mine. There will be too many repetitions of "what the heck is Earthbound?" in the minds of GameFAQs voters, while Doom is, at the very least, a well-known game. --- Engaged to MWIS 04/07/04 Current Sp2K4 Score: 13/13, Next Winner: Super Metroid |
| From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 4/15/2004 8:04:15 AM | Message Detail |
| hmm,
has everyone written off Super Smash Brothers Melee against Final
Fantasy X? Or does anyone think it still has a decent shot? I mean, SSBM, ideally, for me anyway, would benefit from the fanbase of Nintendo, not just parts of it, but all of it. This isn't realistically going to happen, because its doubtful that all Nintendo fans like/loved the game. But, Final Fantasy X isn't the favorite, nor the second favorite, FF game, though that also doesn't mean the FF fans wouldn't vote for it. I guess what it really comes down to is how badly each of these games thrashes their opponents until they meet. --- Was nokia trying to prove that something can be made worse than x-box? ~Darkbaconslayer on N-Gage |
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