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From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/4/2004 8:22:21 PM | Message Detail
I apologize for getting this up a couple of days late. Kinda slipped my mind.

I must say, the stats topic has grown enormously since its humble beginnings. From the first couple of failed attempts and the first successful topic which didn't reach 500 posts until it got flooded after the contest ended, we're now able to amass thousands of posts in the off-season and pre-season alone. It's a lot of fun to be apart of.

I'd just like to thank everyone (except Ulti) who's contributed to the 12+ topics -- some 6000 posts -- since this thing started back during SC2K2. And especially KSOT, Jjukil, and NeoElfBoy for helping to get it all started.

Stats websites:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html
Spring 2004 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html

Stats topics:

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html
Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)
2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Spring 2004 Pre-Season:
http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/04SpringPreSeason1.html
http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/04SpringPreSeason2.html
http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13214208
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Let the discussion reign.
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From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/4/2004 8:25:34 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and I should mention that the Oracle Challenge has returned and can currently be found here:
http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13291032

That's probably where I'll be spending most of my very limited time.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/4/2004 8:26:29 PM | Message Detail
Anyone think the SMB3 vs. Metroid match could be closer due to the characters being portrayed as the match picture?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/spr04b33.jpg
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"...one among you...will shortly perish..." - Janus Zeal (Chrono Trigger)
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: solarshadow | Posted: 4/4/2004 8:44:44 PM | Message Detail
Honestly, I think the games are easily recognizable from what's there. The title screen fonts are unmistakable, as is Mario's raccoon suit and Samus' 8-bit representation. It still feels as much like a vision of the games themselves (rather than characters) as looking at the original box art. I don't think it will have much of an effect (assuming that we could ever attribute any voter influence to the pics).
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Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com
From: King Morgoth | Posted: 4/4/2004 8:48:41 PM | Message Detail
Anyone think the SMB3 vs. Metroid match could be closer due to the characters being portrayed as the match picture?

It depends how close you first thought it would be, but it might help Metroid a little...
One thing is sure, it could lead to very...interesting pictures...Left Paddle vs "L" Block? Duck Hunt's Dog vs Link? or maybe the Kefka sprite we've all been waiting for? (It will probably be Terra though, sadly)
I wonder what character he will put for say Starcraft (if it makes it) or Super Smash Bros. Melee...
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/4/2004 8:58:30 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, that`s what I was thinking that the titles are easily seen right there. Definitley unmistakable, especially with the sprite from each game.
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"...one among you...will shortly perish..." - Janus Zeal (Chrono Trigger)
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Sir Chris | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:02:09 PM | Message Detail
no surprises so far... another easy match to predict tomorrow...

then we have duck hunt versus dk

oh nos
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My bracket is 2/2 thus far with 2 points out of a possible 2 points. Contra is my winner for the day!
From: Zaphod H | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:06:58 PM | Message Detail
Any speculations on how much of a factor pic format will have in the later rounds (I mean, for games like Tetris and Melee, what single character would you put for the second round?)
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Supporting Super Smash Brothers Melee for the 2004 Spring Contest going ALL THE WAY.
It's tankalicous, like DK.
From: Mild Guy | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:07:17 PM | Message Detail
Tag.
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Proud Supporter of Every Sega Game in the Contest (except Phantasy Star 1) Current Score 3/3.
From: cyko | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:09:16 PM | Message Detail
i'm still here.

i would give you my point of view for tomorrow's match, but it's late, i'm tired and Final Fantasy will pretty much reach the magic 2000 vote "lead of no return" within the first hour.

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Current Score: 4/4 (through FF vs. Pitfall) Tied for 1st place with ????? other users.
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From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:25:08 PM | Message Detail
How does everyone here feel about Perfect Dark, Castlevania, and GE 007 3some? I have GE beating Castlevania in the 2nd round but I'm beginning to doubt my pick...
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:26:07 PM | Message Detail
I have Castlevania over Perfect Dark but losing to Goldeneye.

And yeah, not much to comment when it comes to Final Fantasy`s slaughter tomorrow.
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"...one among you...will shortly perish..." - Janus Zeal (Chrono Trigger)
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Sir Chris | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:26:10 PM | Message Detail
I have castlevania going to the sweet 16 :O
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My bracket is 2/2 thus far with 2 points out of a possible 2 points. Contra is my winner for the day!
From: Zaphod H | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:28:20 PM | Message Detail
I was pretty sure that SotN would beat PD, wasn't so sure about SotN against Goldeneye, but since I like the Castlevania series better, and I felt that SotN had a good shot at Goldeneye, I went w/ SotN. No real reasons other than preference and instinct, heh.
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Supporting Super Smash Brothers Melee for the 2004 Spring Contest going ALL THE WAY.
It's tankalicous, like DK.
From: creativename | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:39:13 PM | Message Detail
Well, it looks like the GameRiot Factor did indeed hurt the contest poll vote totals, and by a significant amount. Vote totals for the weekend are normally lower than weekdays. And it looks like we'll have about 15K more votes for this match than the one yesterday (despite it being an hour shorter in duration, which is rather meaningless). So the first 100K vote match should come sooner rather than later. I wouldn't be surprised if Final Fantasy vs. Pitfall came close to that figure actually.

I wonder how often CJayC will put a secondary poll up there--there are 23 spots between polls 1578 and 1601. And I wonder how many, if any, of those polls will occupy the primary poll slot. I hope that no more polls infringe upon the contest poll's slot, because, frankly, I think it's annoying.

From the last topic, Slowflake said:
FF should win this match. It won't be a blowout in the proportions of what we've seen last Friday

Hmmm...how so? Pitfall seems like a much weaker competitor than Metal Gear. I always presumed this would be the worse blowout between these two matches. Pitfall has virtually no appeal around here, and remember that it only made it due to the Nomination System Factor. Whereas just making it as a *NES* game is impressive for Metal Gear, given all the classics for that system. That by itself makes it a non-trivial opponent. Pitfall, OTOH, seems completely trivial. I think it's one of the weakest games in the tourney, along with Adventure and Galaga, and maybe NIGHTS and Gunstar Heroes. It can get more than 20% against Final Fantasy I guess, but I don't think most people would expect that.

Anyone think the SMB3 vs. Metroid match could be closer due to the characters being portrayed as the match picture?

Pic factor = non-factor, at least when it comes to competitors of any significance. This has been shown quite clearly. Though I do think Metroid will garner roughly 40% of the vote against SMB3. Metroid was a very beloved game. No doubt some people will actually attribute Metroid so-called "surprising" performance--if it were to happen--to the Franchise factor, but this would be a mistake. Metroid was immensely popular back in the day and would've made the 8-bit division as a NES entry even if it had never had a single sequel and Samus was completely forgotten. It was one of the most memorable and popular games of the era, even in absence of a franchise to keep interest in it alive.

How does everyone here feel about Perfect Dark, Castlevania, and GE 007 3some? I have GE beating Castlevania in the 2nd round but I'm beginning to doubt my pick...

Goldeneye seems to clearly be above the other two games, though there was some debate earlier about SOTN vs. Perfect Dark. SOTN is the clear, but not totally overwhelming, favorite according to Slowflake's project. A Perfect Dark victory over SOTN would be surprising but not a complete shock. If either of those games were to beat Goldeneye though, that would be a huge upset. Goldeneye was just too damn popular.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:44:15 PM | Message Detail
Yes, the DK match should be a very good one. There are still 20 undefeated Gurus right now, but there will be alot less after the dust has settled on that one. With a win for Donkey Kong, we'll be down to 13, and with a win for Duck Hunt, we're left with a mere 7.

Speaking of which, I just finished up work on that Guru analysis I've been doing for a while now. There so much good stuff in here now, and I've got it all out on an Excel file. If you're interested in all 30 Guru brackets, a Guru Scoreboard, or "Expert Odds" as compared with Slowflake's "Board Odds," then look no further than:

http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/ContestGurus.xls

And now, for a few highlights...


Expert's Odds Analysis

Well, we pretty much ended up finding out what we've known all along. "Experts" think just like everybody else... only they're much more confident about it. Every single matchup was predicted to end up going the same way, but only twice did the Gurus call that match with a lower %. Those were

Xenogears 59.80% 53.33% -6.47%
Pokemon

Goldeneye 71.57% 63.33% -8.24%
SOTN

Xenogears manages to hold off Pokemon, but just barely, while GE loses nearly a full 10% in its battle with Castlevania. Does this signal trouble ahead for these two? And now, here are the picks where the Experts are way, way more confident than the board majority.

Kingdom Hearts 71.57% 96.67% +25.10%
StarCraft/Halo

SOTN 67.65% 86.67% +19.02%
PD

Wind Waker 50.98% 70.00% +19.02%
Metroid Prime 28.43% 23.33% -5.10%
Kingdom Hearts 10.78% 6.67% -4.12%

Melee 76.47% 93.33% +16.86%
Vice City

FFX 59.80% 76.67% +16.86%
Melee

We are quite obviously of the opinion that the board hype surrounding Starcraft, Halo, and Vice City will come to nothing in the end. We also think that nothing can stand in the way of a Wind Waker/FFX Division Final, and we're not buying into the idea that PD has what it takes to do away with Castlevania.

And as for the Champion, well, the biggest boost by far goes to Chrono Trigger, most likely in an attempt by some Experts to win the entire tournament outright. But FF7 gets a small boost as well, as does Ocarina. All at the expense of Mario 3, who almost no one was willing to say has what it takes to go all the way.

FF7 53.92% 56.67% +2.75%
Ocarina of Time 24.51% 26.67% +2.16%
Chrono Trigger 8.82% 13.33% +4.51%
Mario 3 6.86% 3.33% -3.53%

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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:49:33 PM | Message Detail
I was thinking the exact same percentage creativename, roughly 40%.
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"...one among you...will shortly perish..." - Janus Zeal (Chrono Trigger)
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:52:32 PM | Message Detail
Good stuff Ngamer. =)
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"...one among you...will shortly perish..." - Janus Zeal (Chrono Trigger)
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:54:47 PM | Message Detail
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/4/2004 9:56:18 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I wasn't overly worried about Contra v Phantasy Star, I always thought taking Duck Hunt over DK would be the bigger risk.

I analysed the match briefly in the pre-season topic, and I think we all agree FF will win. Could get anywhere from 70-95%, but I'm guessing around 85%. I'll be voting Pitfall (forgot to include this), even though my bracket says FF.
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3/3 - T1. Next: Final Fantasy
From: creativename | Posted: 4/4/2004 10:15:20 PM | Message Detail
Wonderful stuff Ngamer!!! That's just awesome. Thanks for taking the time to do all this.

One question: in the "Guru Brackets" sheet, a game is italicized if is it "not like NG". Does this mean a pick is italicized if more than 50% of the people had a single other game winning there? Because Xenogears is italized while Pokemon is not, even though Xenogears is the favorite in that match (even if barely on the guru brackets). Also, Final Fantasy X is italicized for the Division 128 winner spot while Wind Waker is not, even though more than half the gurus had Final Fantasy X winninger there while the brackets didn't have anything with more than 50% support. So could you clarify this?

I must say that I love your formats, and you definitely analyzed the most interesting thing when comparing the expert brackets vs. the board brackets. As you stated, it's intriguing that the experts have more faith in Pokemon and SOTN, though the differences appear to be small relative to the sample size.

On a side note, I personally expect to lose my perfect bracket (though 4/4 is a rather pathetic thing to call perfection) rather shortly, as I picked Duck Hunt over DK. The consensus is probably right there. Though I think Duck Hunt does have a shot.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 4/4/2004 10:21:02 PM | Message Detail
"I'd just like to thank everyone (except Ulti)..."

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 4/4/2004 10:25:08 PM | Message Detail
Thanks HM! Thanks creative!

Yeah, putting in italics the picks that went "against the grain" would be a better idea, no doubt. But I did all that kind of formatting right when they were being entered, and so they are instead simply the picks that go against my own. ("NG" is what I call myself some times, when there isn't space/time to say Ngamer.) But it's pretty close between the two, at least until Ocarina/FF7 and Wind Waker/FFX.

Oh, and while I've got your attention, creative. Would you consider hosting the Archived versions of the old Discussion topics on your web site? My geocities bandwidth occasionally dies out when more than a few people want to look them over at once, and plus I'm going to be cramped for space pretty soon here if we all keep posting at this pace.

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From: creativename | Posted: 4/4/2004 11:35:15 PM | Message Detail
Archive'd (sorry, couldn't resist)

http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason2.htm
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason3.htm

They can also be reached through links under the Links tab. Though, it appears to have copied the GeoCities ad as well. If I remember I'll try and check the source later to see if I can get rid of that.

Let me know if you need anything else hosted.
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Remember to nominate Frog from Chrono Trigger for Summer Contest 2K4!
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From: creativename | Posted: 4/5/2004 12:41:38 AM | Message Detail
And Final Fantasy puts an 86.46% up on the board! I was hoping for 85%, so this is very good. Might even make someone (i.e., not me) feel pity for its opponent. Which happens to be Pitfall...may as well call it Pityfall, because you feel pity for it. Or, because it's performance is *Pityfall*, as in, pitiful! Hahahahaha!!! ...or not.

Anyway, this shall now hopefully lead to the gathering of momentum for Final Fantasy in its impossible task: to defeat SMB3. No doubt that match shall get a lot of votes...but can Final Fantasy overcome the 8 bit juggernaut? NO, says just about everybody! HOPEFULLY, says I! Final Fantasy is the gathering storm! <cackles maniacally> </maniacal cackling>

I shall be eagerly awaiting--and fearing--that match, because Final Fantasy was my favorite game of the 8-bit era and IIRC the first game I truly loved; while SMB3 was my most reviled game at the time. It shall pain me if Final Fantasy loses to SMB3. And while I'd probably say SMB3 will get 56%-62% in that match, I shall hold out a sliver of hope that Final Fantasy can overcome.

Up next is Contra though, and while back in the day Contra would've taken this (and easily) because Final Fantasy was underappreciated in its own era and RPGs in general were obscure, Final Fantasy's popularity has probaby fared better over the year's than Contra's. I'd say Final Fantasy wins with 60%-65%. Contra's performance against Phantasy Star wasn't overwhelming, and Final Fantasy would PWN Phantasy Star. But Final Fantasy vs. Contra might be somewhat close.

And the last match got 91,106 votes! So the GameRiot factor appears to have been rather big based on the few data points we have. Weekday tomorrow, and Spring Break for many as well. So this match should pass 95K, and possibly 100K. Final Fantasy = t3h DRAWING POWER! Beware, SMB3...BEWARE!!!
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From: EvilNcr | Posted: 4/5/2004 12:43:23 AM | Message Detail
Spring Break? For americans, yes but not here for sure...
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From: GoldSlime35 | Posted: 4/5/2004 1:14:36 AM | Message Detail
I have SotN beating PD and GE. That's basically my only major upset pick. (Not counting KH over Halo).

I also think that Pokemon will win. Either way, I'm certain that it would do better against FF7 then Xenogears, but that wouldn't matter much.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2004 5:36:13 AM | Message Detail
Yep, here spring break is the first week of March.

And I'm totally shocked at the results. I thought however weaker Pitfall was than Metal Gear, FF1 was weaker than SMB3.

Guess I was wrong... we might not see Nintendo all over the bracket at the end. This more and more looks like a sequel tournament, as someone else put it yesterday... yet PS with 38% just seems to go against that, too.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 002/002 --- Matches: 02/02 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: Phantasy Star
From: Who Cares? | Posted: 4/5/2004 5:46:36 AM | Message Detail
I've already had spring break as well about 3 weeks ago, & I'm in Flordia. And I'm not ready to think this match will hit 90k yet. Remember yesterday's match was nearly 50k at the halfway point & today's is barely at 17k one-fourth of the way thru. I'll for this match to flesh out a bit before I make anymore observations though...
From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/5/2004 5:51:53 AM | Message Detail
Well here we go kiddies :) Time for...

Steve Illumina Speaks

Thats right, the infamous yet humorous commentary is back, to go with all the rest of us here in this, the greatest of threads, the most worthy of postings on this fanboy dominated board.

And so it continues, with a much talked about matchup...

Match V

(6)Donkey Kong vs. (11)Duck Hunt

Steve's Prediction: Kong with over 55%
Steve's Bracket: Kong
Newbie's Pick: Neither
Upset Chances: Too good...

Comments: I for one am sick of the hype on this match. We got the poster boy of contest underachievement Donkey Kong taking on a totally nondeserving game which I will bet 100 Rupees is a joke entry. Seems the Zero Wing crybabies had to find another overrated game with 2 words of 4 letters each to get their joke fix. Duck Hunt fits the bill.

This match will be too close...for the Nintendites will have to think about it. Some will think too much...rack their brains over it...eat a couple of Ham & Cheese Hot Pockets as they ponder the possibilities.

I say...no need to think. Kong is the better game, has the arcade following, and at least has a character to fall back on. What does Duck Hunt have? A dog, 3 ducks, and some pixelated bushes that are as fixed in position as Saddam was when we got him. Come on people...Duck Hunt is so not worthy!

Probable Results: Kong will eek out a close one...closer than it should be cause of joke votes and kiddies who think the dog is cute or something.

Steve's Moments: Kong: Hated this in the arcade...never could get too far on it for some reason. Duck Hunt: Well it came as a pack in...but got boring after 5 min, even at 8 years old when I first played it.
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"I, Garland, will knock you all down!"
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2004 5:52:59 AM | Message Detail
Well, it's a weekday. Wait until the kiddies get home from school!

*takes a look at the top blowouts in history*

Let's see... who scored blowouts bigger than that? We've got Megaman (three times), Link, Mario, and Sephiroth. And Cloud and Crono if Pitfall gets a bit of ground back. THAT'S IT. FF is doing better than anything in terms of raw percentage ever did, save for the first and second tier characters.

...well, Max Payne DID triple an opponent once.

But Sonic only got 82% against Harry... how could the ORIGINAL FF be doing so much better?
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 002/003 --- Matches: 02/03 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF1
From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/5/2004 5:53:33 AM | Message Detail
The biggest blowout is to come...Zelda over Adventure!

Take it to the bank :) I cant wait to write my lil piece on this match!
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Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever...SC2K4: 2/2 Points!
"I, Garland, will knock you all down!"
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2004 5:54:57 AM | Message Detail
Oh yes, Zelda/Adventure. If FF1 can take 88% on Pitfall, I'm expecting Zelda to go over 90%.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 002/003 --- Matches: 02/03 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF1
From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/5/2004 6:02:52 AM | Message Detail
PS v Contra - Review:

Contra pwned. Good. Enough said. I expected it would be around the 55-60% margin (not dead even like a lot of people thought), and I was right.

DK v DH - Preview:

I hated DK, and he's a noted underachiever. DH was packed in with the NES, which sold a lot of copies. It'll be close and I'm NOT confident, but I've got DH taking this in an upset and I've had it since I first saw the bracket.

Bracket and my vote are both for Duck Hunt.

Too tired to type up a lot right now.
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3/3 - T1. Next: Final Fantasy
From: torey luvullo | Posted: 4/5/2004 6:06:35 AM | Message Detail
it's all good.
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 4/5/2004 6:16:23 AM | Message Detail
If SoTN manages to achieve 55% or more, does Golden Eye even stand a chance? Afterall, Golden Eye would beat PD but essentially same people would vote for Golden Eye over SoTN. I am having real trouble gauging how strong these 2 games are, since neither Joanna Dark or James Bond was tested during character contests. And I am not sure if FPS sucks rule applies in this case, since these 2 games are THE FPS games of all consoles, and yes that includes Halo of the despised XBOX.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2004 6:21:53 AM | Message Detail
Added some new stuff to my Excel file.

First, I added color to the BOP tallies: color of the next round indicates that the game advanced, color of the current round indicates that the game lost.

Second, I added something new to the right of the point value chart: the points lost for each match, the total of these points compared to the total number of points in play (19584) and also to the number of points that have been in play so far (306 after 3 matches).

Last, I added a new spreadsheet for the vote totals for each game throughout the tournament. Interestingly enough, Sephiroth won this last year despite losing in the finals.

The link is still the same: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 002/003 --- Matches: 02/03 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF1
From: Tai | Posted: 4/5/2004 6:24:29 AM | Message Detail
Donkey Kong IS clearly the better game. If Duck Hunt is winning tomorrow, ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE TOMORROW!!!

And no, I'm not talking me. :-)
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/5/2004 6:28:50 AM | Message Detail
I disagree *points to sig*

Which game will the Mario presence affect more? That's what I'm wondering.
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4/4 - T1. Next: Duck Hunt (VOTE FOR IT!)
From: Seadragon76 | Posted: 4/5/2004 7:09:03 AM | Message Detail
I'm guessing Duck Hunt will get a bigger effect from what he said because it was packaged with the original Super Mario Bros.
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From: Tarrot | Posted: 4/5/2004 7:20:10 AM | Message Detail
The reason why Final Fantasy is winning: 8-Bit Theatre.

Clevinger has managed with his site to drum up enough of a fanbase for the game that it could potentially unseat SMB3.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/5/2004 7:20:15 AM | Message Detail
"I'd just like to thank everyone (except Ulti)..."

I don`t even see where that post was made.
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From: smitelf | Posted: 4/5/2004 7:34:15 AM | Message Detail
I don`t even see where that post was made.

Solarshadow's intro...

I'm reserving judgement on DK vs. Duck Hunt. I just don't know enough about the two games involved.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/5/2004 7:36:03 AM | Message Detail
Oh, I see now ^_^ He`s making fun of the fact that I complain in every new topic he makes due to him never including me in the elite list of people he thanks. But now that I`ve made his list in the manner of reverse psychology, I`ll shut up. Thanks, solar!
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From: smitelf | Posted: 4/5/2004 7:46:28 AM | Message Detail
Has anyone else noticed that the IQ of this board has taken a dive since the beginning of the contest? I don't mean this in an elitist way, but really, I've seen a dozen topics asking things like "how does this contest work?" It annoys me because I would think it blindingly obvious: j00 v0t 4 ur fav n tey winn><ors!!!1!1!shift+1!!

Then there's stuff like "d00d, where's GTA?" and other such nonsense that was covered last month. The quality of topics and the grammar within is really crappy right now; I'd say it's almost as bad as LUE but less funny.
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"Your fate is sealed, and none but yours." -- Auron
Proud Supporter of Starcraft in the Spring 2004 Contest Current Score: 2/2
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2004 8:06:08 AM | Message Detail
Makes me long for the days of SC2K3. At least the fanboyish picks were less abundant back then. Now all we see is Halo, Starcraft, Vice City winning it all. Either these or obvious first round losers like Half-Life or SoA.

Notice how many of these "fanboy picks" come from the 128 division?
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 002/003 --- Matches: 02/03 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF1
From: Starion | Posted: 4/5/2004 8:08:53 AM | Message Detail
I can't really blame people for picking those games. This is the first bracket contest involving games (instead of characters) after all.
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Sp2004 Score:3/3
Current Pick:Final Fantasy Vs. Pitfall
From: GunMage | Posted: 4/5/2004 9:00:06 AM | Message Detail
Makes me long for the days of SC2K3. At least the fanboyish picks were less abundant back then. Now all we see is Halo, Starcraft, Vice City winning it all. Either these or obvious first round losers like Half-Life or SoA.

Notice how many of these "fanboy picks" come from the 128 division?


Heh, we'll always have fanboys, Slowflake. It's just that most of them now are too young to have played games that were even in the 16-bit era. Bah... violence does not a good game make!

And smitelf, some just knew about the contest now (by not even bothering to read the front page), and thus would follow the board link CJay graciously provided at the bottom of every poll after voting completely ignorant of what's been discussed this past month... XD
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SpC2K4 - Today's winner: Final Fantasy, 3 pts, (3/3)
Proud supporter of Goldeneye for SpC2K4
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/5/2004 9:22:42 AM | Message Detail
I couldn't resist but think of something.

FF6 going to the second round is practically a done deal... and knowing what the second round pictures are going to look like, do you think we could at long last see Kefka's sprite?
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 002/003 --- Matches: 02/03 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: FF1
From: Cthulhu | Posted: 4/5/2004 9:35:41 AM | Message Detail
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