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Pre-Season Spring 2004 Contest Discussion - Part 3
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 3/31/2004 6:45:58 PM | Message Detail
Behold the final BOP spreadsheet!

Big winner today is Halo, with a lot of picks to get to the third round.

102 brackets... I didn't honestly expect to get that many. Do you think I should do this again this summer?
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
Board Odds Project: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 3/31/2004 6:46:46 PM | Message Detail
Yes, definitely.
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"... One among you ... will shortly perish ..." - Janus (Chrono Trigger)
SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: smitelf | Posted: 3/31/2004 7:25:24 PM | Message Detail
smitelf: I'd rather laugh about you making tiers now than laugh about "how wrong I was" later.

And I'd rather laugh at you now for acting pretentious on a video game message board.

If I'm wrong later that's fine, but there's no need for me to act like I know ALL the answers before it happens (I'll wait until it does to act like I knew all the answers).

I already stated that it was conjecture. I never pretended I knew all the answers.
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"Your fate is sealed, and none but yours." -- Auron
Proud Supporter of Starcraft in the Spring 2004 Contest
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 3/31/2004 7:36:17 PM | Message Detail
Arggghh, I missed the deadline b/c of evening class. I really meant to come back and change FFX to win 128 division. Now I am stuck with all Zelda Final 4 which was a rough draft...
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From: solarshadow | Posted: 3/31/2004 10:36:36 PM | Message Detail
Oops, I didn't get a chance to finalize my bracket either. Ah well, it's probably better this way (last minute changes tend to be deadly). :)

While I'm here I should answer one question:

...are you EVER going to update the Summer 2003 Contest stats on your website?

No. Well, yes, maybe. With work and school and the spring contest, I really don't have a lot of time on my hands. Also, with my hard drive crash (costing me all my SC2K3 spreadsheets and whatnot) and the summer contest being many months old, I really don't have a lot of enthusiasm for it. The main sections are complete (full stats and top 10), but I do want to eventually finish everything else. I won't do stuff like contest averages until I rebuild my spreadsheets, which probably means not until after the spring contest. Maybe in time for SC2K4? I don't know. Sorry. :(
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Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 3/31/2004 10:47:12 PM | Message Detail
You're free to do so, I suppose. Though really, as it is tiers based on some actual fact makes me laugh, tiers based entirely off of guess work...
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:25:56 AM | Message Detail
You mean, the one where you called me a sexist pig?

Did you read the other topic? Pretty much everything said after the Heroic post was not by me, save one topic where I asked you to marry me ^_^

So no, I`m not the one who called you sexist. In fact, that`s the topic that drove me to delete a ton of messages in the first place, because my idiot friend was running around attacking people, which was not the point of the joke.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:29:20 AM | Message Detail
No, I didn't get to see that.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
Board Odds Project: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:32:43 AM | Message Detail
http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13384954

I pretty much was the one to go on about the user fights and the Heroic usernames. The true owner of the account decided to take it one step further.
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From: Tai | Posted: 4/1/2004 7:12:11 AM | Message Detail
In one day..all the action..all the chaos.. of Sp2k4....will begin.

How do you all feel about this? I look forward to this!! :-)))
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From: smitelf | Posted: 4/1/2004 8:39:01 AM | Message Detail
And the tension builds...
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"Your fate is sealed, and none but yours." -- Auron
Proud Supporter of Starcraft in the Spring 2004 Contest
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/1/2004 9:27:17 AM | Message Detail
Given these revelations about Ultimaterializer, I think I will respectfully withdraw myself from the sig contest. For all I know Ulti could be half of the people on that list, thus increasing his odds of winninng by orders of magnitude ;)

I`m not all of those names. Even with all the recent rumors, I`ll give you an honest list of the names I currently have access to AND POST WITH:

UltimaterializerX
Uitimaterializer
Shadow Doom Blaze
Heroic Common Sense
cronus striker

That`s it. I karma log for some other people, but I don`t ever post with their accounts. Ever.

Anyway, I`m making the topic as we speak, so get ready to post your bracket.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/1/2004 10:20:24 AM | Message Detail
So... who else will stay up/wake up then go back to bed tonight to see this begin? I know I will. At 3 AM Eastern time... it all begins again!

Expect my first official preview later today. I'm changing forms this year: I'll do daily Comparison Game columns, since MMXcalibur seems to have dropped them. Don't expect them to be like MMX's, either.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
Board Odds Project: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
From: Qwaar | Posted: 4/1/2004 10:36:43 AM | Message Detail
I thought the polls started at midnight?

and was that a cheap plug for Wrestlemania XX :p ?

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From: Starion | Posted: 4/1/2004 10:38:17 AM | Message Detail
I hope Slowflake doesn't pull an April Fools joke with the collected brackets.
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From: torey luvullo | Posted: 4/1/2004 10:42:13 AM | Message Detail
the polls do start at midnight - but midnight pacific time, which is 3 am eastern time.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/1/2004 4:22:11 PM | Message Detail
Apparently, WM20 sucked ass except for the two championship matches.

And I'll get started on that column right now.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
Board Odds Project: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/1/2004 4:55:40 PM | Message Detail
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #1 - (1) SUPER MARIO BROS. 3 vs. (16) METAL GEAR ***

Sales

Hmwell, what can I say here... except Snake can't lay eggs to put as zeroes at the end of MG's sales numbers. It'll need every zero it got... which is nowhere near the astounding 18 millions for what is considered as the best platformer of all time. Among the games in the tournament, only Duck Hunt and Tetris sold more than that, and out of these two, only Tetris could be considered legit.

- Advantage SMB3.

Franchises

Snake went to the Elite 8 twice, and even outlasted Cloud by a day in 2002 and Mario in 2003, proving his games are really pop... argh, who am I kidding. Metal Gear hit its prime on the PS and PS2, not on the NES. And even taking that into account... Mario is STILL bigger today than Metal Gear EVER was. If the level of popularity SMB has today says it's past its prime, I'd love to be past my prime too. Everyone's favorite stealth agent should just be happy this isn't a worldwide poll.

- Advantage SMB3

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: SMB3
Number of reviews: SMB3
Average review score: SMB3
Board activity: SMB3

We'll have to be on the lookout for RPGs on this criteria... they'll usually take this when there's one of 'em. But there's not, and this can be testament of how SMB3 is a big favorite heading into this match.

- Advantage SMB3.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Super Mario Bros. 3 - 102
Metal Gear - 0

POINT VALUE
4. Super Mario Bros. 3 - 2054
57. Metal Gear - 0

Yes, I'm putting that as a criteria... board predictions tend to be more accurate than Joe Average's. And I think we've got ourselves a pretty good sample.

As for the numbers, um, they're pretty self-explanatory... no one picked MG to win, and SMB3's got 7 championship picks.

- Advantage SMB3.

Summer Contest Performances

Pretty easy one, although they are both in the Noble Nine. Snake failed to deliver against a Megaman we've been asking too much in the first three rounds, but Mario and Megaman scored similar scores against Sephiroth. Plus, SMB3 is the favorite Mario and MG is the weakest link in its series. 'Nuff said.

- Advantage SMB3.

Intangibles

We all know who will win this match, but by how much is a real mystery, and that's where the volatility lies in this match. Metal Gear is the weak link of a heavily praised series, and will likely draw a few votes from the name alone. And then there's the ever-important issue of Mario anti-votes. How much of an impact would they make in a game contest? Would the respect for SMB3 nullify some of them? I guess we'll only know when the match is over, but for now, if there's any advantage to be gained in this category, it will be by Metal Gear.

- Advantage Metal Gear.

Conclusion: I pretty much summed it up in the above paragraph. This could be either a massacre, or a 65-35 match (though seeing the latter is mighty unlikely). SMB3 wins, no contest... but there's been some questioning by a few people as to whether it can beat LoZ. Tomorrow's match might provide a few elements of answers.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
Board Odds Project: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:04:46 PM | Message Detail
Nice job Slowflake. =)
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SPC2k4 : Winner - Chrono Trigger
From: redline15 | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:15:00 PM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:16:49 PM | Message Detail
Except we worked extremely well with that formula for the last two years... we not only analyze each match, but the contest as a whole as it goes on. Where would THAT go?
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
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From: Heroic Tails | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:17:40 PM | Message Detail
Great Slowflake! Looking forward to more of this. ^_^
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I'd rather be damned for my own beliefs, than be damned for someone else's. - Shake
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From: swirldude | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:21:39 PM | Message Detail
it worked wonders at gamespy...

GameSpy is trash.
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And the no. 1 reason why Magus > Ansem.......Ansem bought an N-Gage, didn't he! FATALITY. O_O ~Cromage
From: torey luvullo | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:30:26 PM | Message Detail
quite honestly, redline, when the board really gets hot during the contest, this long thread often becomes a beckoning oasis. i don't think anyone really wants to break it up...
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:31:40 PM | Message Detail
Yeppers. I remember Mario vs. Cloud... this topic was, like, the only one to have gotten above two posts that day.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
Board Odds Project: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
From: redline15 | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:34:01 PM | Message Detail
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/1/2004 5:45:35 PM | Message Detail
But then having to spread over many topics disrupts the flow of conversation.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
Board Odds Project: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
From: cyko | Posted: 4/1/2004 9:24:25 PM | Message Detail
yeah, this formula worked well last year, so there's no reason to break it up.

and, dang Slowflake; nice match preview outline. but leave something for the rest of us to say!! lol.

well, since i took care of the Top 5 and Top 10 lists last year, i will take care of them again this year, once a few matches have passed. after all, a Top 5 list after five matches is kinda pointless, isn't it?

well, Slowflake did cover the first match very well, but i'm still gonna toss in my opinion on each match.

cyko's Point of View

Match One:

(1) Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. (16) Metal Gear

there's very little to say about this match that Slowflake hasn't already said. Mario has already won this match before it even started. but, it won't be a blow-out of epic proportions. Metal Gear was more of a cult hit until Metal Gear Solid blew the series wide open. because of that, Metal Gear will probably get more votes now than if this match was held in it's own era. everyone knows Metal Gear has no chance, but it's series name combined with the anti-Mario voters should be able to keep it from Aiai-like proportions.

Prediction: Super Mario Bros. 3 with 76 - 80%

My Bracket: Super Mario Bros. 3

Personal Favorite: Super Mario Bros. 3
- easily my favorite game of the entire 8-bit era. no other game even compares to the memories i have of staying up all night, replaying the Kuribo's Shoe level over and over again.

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From: redline15 | Posted: 4/1/2004 9:29:55 PM | Message Detail
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From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/1/2004 10:29:44 PM | Message Detail
Well here we go kiddies :) Time for...

Steve Illumina Speaks

Thats right, the infamous yet humorous commentary is back, to go with all the rest of us here in this, the greatest of threads, the most worthy of postings on this fanboy dominated board.

And so it begins...with a cupcake squash match in the 8 Bit Division!

Match I

(1) Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. (16) Metal Gear

Steve's Prediction: Super Mario Bros. 3 with over 80%
Steve's Bracket: Super Mario Bros. 3
Newbie's Pick: Mario 3
Upset Chances: Nil.

Comments: The King of Platformers is an angry Italian. Why? Cause last year he was embarrassed in the character contest. So what does he do? He gathers 1000 signatures in the Mushroom Kingdom and petitions King Ceej for the chance to avenge his honor, by bringing out the big guns...that being his greatest of all games, to the table to show the gaming world what kind of an icon he is!

The symbol of all things Nintendo was granted his request, and better still, given the sacred #1 seeding and a 1st round cupcake match against cult classic Metal Gear.

Metal Gear...ah yes, a great game this was back in the day. Released in 1987 to little fanfare, this precursor to the Splinter Cells and 'Tactical Espionage Action' we all know and love in the modern era was known for many years for its infamous typos more than anything else. Typos that make that garbage Zero Wing look almost good. "The engine have started to move!" Hehheh

Probable Results: Mario 3 will open the contest with a bang. And come on peeps? Who in their right mind could ever vote for Dr. Petrovich over Luigi? For a pack of cigarettes over a Tanooki Suit? Sadly, a few fools groomed in the Solid mold will, out of sheer namesake only. When in reality, Metal Gear, while a fine classic, is just not in Mario's league. The Nintendites banner will fly high this Friday night.

Steve's Moments: Super Mario Bros. 3: Remembered fondly from the classic movie "The Wizard"...loved that tournament scene at the end. Watch it now though and see all the bugs in the game and the scores! But when I saw it 15+ years ago...wow. Metal Gear: The Super Computer theme music flat out rocks. A great MIDI file indeed :)

Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever...SC2K4: 0/0 Points!
"Thank You Mario, but our Princess is in another castle"
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/2/2004 6:12:08 AM | Message Detail
Wow, 81%... I called this real nicely, given the possible result range, and I'd expect the percentage to rise a little as the kiddies wake up. I believe Metal Gear has at least more recognition than Servbot... so it looks like SMB3 won't be plagued by the anti-votes after all. This could prove to be a real danger if CT wants to get through in the semis. So no anti-votes for SMB3... but what about SMW and SM64? After all, they're lower on the Mario food chain and can't get the sheer respect SMB3 does.

10000 votes after 5 hours? Not to worry... the polls starting two hours later ARE a turn-off to early voters. And the placement on the main page isn't all that obvious either. But, it's still got twice the votes the PotD got, and twice the average PotD vote turnout means SC2K3's round 1 average of 100000. Has the site completely used its growth potential on contests, or is it just The Spring Factor? (Remember, summer is THE time to play games!)
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SpC2K4 Status --- Winner: FF7 --- Finalist: CT --- Semifinalists: SMB3, LoZ:WW
Board Odds Project: www.freewebs.com/slowflake/spc2k4.xls
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/2/2004 6:22:14 AM | Message Detail
Well... since it looks like we're going to record every update of every match, I think I'm going to archive each match's rundown.

Link will be the same as the BOP, only on different spreadsheets.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 000/000 --- Matches: 00/00 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: dethwing | Posted: 4/2/2004 6:34:06 AM | Message Detail
Has anyone else noticed that the pic for the next match is up?
Pac-Man looks horrible.
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My Bracket:
http://home.fuse.net/jimholte/dethwing/dethwing-bracket-spring.html
From: Who Cares? | Posted: 4/2/2004 6:36:14 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, I think the weekdays will be a little different with people going to school & such, so I think the huge voting spikes we saw in the past will happen around the 3pm-9pm EST time frame. However, it'll be interesting to see the voting patterns for the next two matches since they take place on the weekend. Perhaps then we'll see a little more of the old-fashioned voting trends then.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/2/2004 6:36:55 AM | Message Detail
And to think, he, PAC-MAN of all people, had the picture advantage last year.

But this... ugh... Snake doesn't look too good either today.

Hey, anyone have sales numbers for Metroid, Pac-Man, PS and Contra? I'd guess Pac-Man and Contra sold more...
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 000/000 --- Matches: 00/00 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/2/2004 6:37:49 AM | Message Detail
Yep... I'll put graphs of the first two matches on my database. Assuming there's another update topic tomorrow.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 000/000 --- Matches: 00/00 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: Who Cares? | Posted: 4/2/2004 6:37:49 AM | Message Detail
Wow, Pacman does look terrible! LOL!
From: steve illumina | Posted: 4/2/2004 2:02:59 PM | Message Detail
bump
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Trivia XIII: Diehards Forever...SC2K4: 0/0 Points!
"Thank You Mario, but our Princess is in another castle"
From: Phediuk | Posted: 4/2/2004 2:33:25 PM | Message Detail
Match #2 Preview

Lots has been said about the awful box art choice that CJayC made for Pac-Man. The people who say that obviously haven't seen the box for the Atari 2600 version...

archive.gamespy.com/top10/january03/covers/index2.shtml

Scroll down a bit to see it. *shudders*

As for the match itself...Metroid should take it by a comfortable margin. I'm thinking between 65-70%. While Pac-Man may be a classic, Metroid simply has more popularity on GameFAQs, and has more "cool" factor.

I wouldn't be surprised if Pac-Man held its own, though. After all, this is all just speculation. :P
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: SlangEdter41 | Posted: 4/2/2004 2:40:09 PM | Message Detail
Metroid's "cool factor" is no more of a factor over Metal Gear cool factor. I still expect Metroid to win, but it'll be somewhat close match. I don't expect Metroid to exceed 64%.

Oh, and Pacman cover isn't too bad, compared to first few Megaman covers!
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/2/2004 2:42:28 PM | Message Detail
*** COMPARISONS GAME - Match #2 - (8) METROID vs. (9) PAC-MAN ***

Sales

Okay, so I don't have the exact figures, or any at all, but Pac-Man obviously wins here. I mean, it took a while for Metroid to launch, so I don't think it sold so many copies. Meanwhile, Pac-Man was all over the place, in arcades, etc. and still is today. Perhaps the term "sales" is inadequate: I should more say "number of people who had the opportunity to play the game". Oh well, "sales" still sounds better.

- Advantage PAC-MAN.

Franchises

I could sum it up in this sentence... Pac-Man is respected, nothing more. And it's going to take a helluva lot more than respect to beat one of the Noble Nine's games. Even if it's the worst one in the series. And Metroid's definition of "worst in the series" would make any other franchise drool in envy. "I wish my worst was this good."

- Advantage METROID.

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs: Metroid
Number of reviews: Metroid
Average review score: Pac-Man
Board activity: Metroid

Pac-Man only leads in the review score area, 9 to 8.7. For the rest, it's being absolutely dominated.

- Advantage METROID.

Board Odds Project

PICKS (out of 102)
Metroid - 94
Pac-Man - 8

POINT VALUE
26. Metroid - 94
47. Pac-Man - 8

Sorry if these numbers are redundant... but no one has it surviving SMB3. The size of the blowout here, however, is shocking. This very match was my inspiration to start this thing, because I thought not enough credit was given to Pac-Man on the stats topic... turns out it's the same everywhere on the board.

- Advantage METROID

Summer Contests / Polls of the Day

Okay, we're going to do some math here, so bear with me. First, data from the Summer Contests suggests Samus would triple Pac-Man. Let's say, 75000 vs. 25000. Now, let's assume the most popular Metroid title (Super) is 80% as popular as Samus - we get 60000 vs. 25000. Then, on last February 13's poll, SM beat Metroid by a factor of 4.6. Dividing 60000 by that, we get about 13000. Thus spelling a 66-34 victory for Pac-Man... before franchise votes and the SFF on the PotD kick in - it asked your favorite, not what you like period. Can these two combined clinch 16000 votes for Metroid? Easily, I say.

Plus, Zero Mission got 5% on that poll... seeing how it was advertised as a remake of the original Metroid, it could throw in its weight as well.

- Advantage METROID.

Intangibles

Well, I just said it, Zero Mission, along with the inclusion of the original in it as well as Prime, could blur the cards, seeing how it gave newer players the opportunity to play that game. But by how much? On the other side, Pac-Man has the whole "respect" thing going for him... but remember when I said Samus would triple him in a match... can you name anyone who got tripled by Samus? That's right... Isaac. Respect can only get you so far (read: beating Goemon and Kyo); once you start facing bigger opposition (and from a contest perspective, I can't exactly say Scorpion and Kefka are intimidating foes), expect to get kicked out. Is the old Metroid big enough to do it? More likely than not.

- Advantage METROID

Conclusion: Unlike last time, some sort of case can be made for the underdog. Legendary status... and well, there's not much else. Sure, Pac-Man's definitley more of a legend than Samus could ever hope to be, but we see how once great legends are treated on GameFAQs (Crash and Lara, both more popular than Mario at one point according to the Guinness Book of World Records are good examples). But one thing's guaranteed... if Pac-Man wins, or at least comes close, Pong will suddenly look like the surefire victor against RCR.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 000/000 --- Matches: 00/00 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/2/2004 2:47:44 PM | Message Detail
Nice work, Slowflake. And if you missed it earlier, I`m not the one that called you the sexist. That was my loser friend who went and ****ed up the entire joke. But hey, if you have any animosity towards me at all, allow me to apologize. The whole thing was a small joke that got well out of hand.

As for this match, um.... no real surprise. Congrats to Mario 3 and Metroid for their byes into the second round.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 4/2/2004 2:48:54 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I read that. Sorry to have mistrusted you for a moment.
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SpC2K4 Status --- Points: 000/000 --- Matches: 00/00 --- Rank: ?????/????? --- Today's pick: SMB3
From: cyko | Posted: 4/2/2004 5:32:38 PM | Message Detail

cyko's Point of View

Match Two:

(8) Metroid vs. (9) Pac-Man

Pac-Man is a classic; noone will deny that. but, classic does not equal great. Metroid may not have been played as much, but it has a huge Nintendo series backing it up. that, combined with a pair of re-releases (one remade and one a bonus for connecting Prime to Fusion) have helped boost it's recent exposure. it may be the weakest game in the series, but the Metroid series has gotten huge over the past two years. Pac-Man will do respectable, but it won't be enough.

and, lol, i believe that Pac-Man's pic is revenge for Kefka's horrible pic that Pac-Man was almost able to overtake. =P

Prediction: Metroid with 56-60%

My Bracket: Metroid

Personal Favorite: Metroid
- this one is a tough call inside my head. Pac-Man is cool and all, but it wears off after a while. however, the recently released Pac-Man Versus is quite a fun party game. Metroid, though, was put together extremely well for it's time. and i have to admit, the more recent games in the series have boosted my opinion of the original.

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From: Yesmar | Posted: 4/2/2004 5:36:35 PM | Message Detail
Yesmar's Contest Comments: Day 1: 4/2/04

· SMB3's win tells me two things:

a) The anti-Mario vote doesn't appear to be anything to worry about at this point, if it's even present at all.

b) Voting by franchises doesn't appear to be a problem. Even if Metal Gear doesn't have Solid attached to the end of it, franchise voters would know enough to vote for it. This doesn't appear to be the case.

· Look at those low poll numbers. I guess this is to be expected, as people are in school. Things should probably pick up a week from now during Spring Break. Maybe the day of the week that a match is held will actually make a difference now.

· Not much more to say about SMB3's win. Just a pretty solid blowout that helps me reassure myself about it making it to the finals.

· As for Pac-Man Vs. Metroid: Ouch! That picture is terrible. I was sure Pac-Man had a pretty good shot at winning, but now I'm not so sure.

· Even so, people are really underestimating Pac-Man's chances. I will be shocked if Metroid manages anything over 60%.

· Lastly, I doubt that Zero Mission will have much of an effect. Does the game mention at all that it's a remake of the original? If not, I highly doubt the casual gamer would even know.

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From: cyko | Posted: 4/2/2004 5:38:00 PM | Message Detail
btw- we still need a few more brackets from you guys who entered the Contest Discussion Crew Gurus Competition!

these are the people who are missing:

2. Shake
12. i am vishnu 2
13. Yesmar
14. solarshadow
15. StopPokingMe- Not sure about Tiebreaker
19. creativename- Not sure about Bracket
20. swirldude- Not sure about Tiebreaker
27. EvilNcr
28. IMAP
30. FastFalcon
33. Rzrsk8er

hurry up, i believe the deadline is the start of the Metroid vs. Pac-Man match!!!

here's the topic:

http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=13399963&page=1

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 4/2/2004 5:55:15 PM | Message Detail
Well, I wouldn't say there's really a hard and fast deadline here... The way the board odds ended up, I doubt any of those 8 we're waiting on went with Pac-Man. But in any case, yes, please get those in ASAP, guys. If not tonight, then certainly before the start of Contra/Phantasy Star.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/2/2004 5:57:53 PM | Message Detail
Thanks, Slowflake. If I was going to use an alt account to attack someone, I would have gone after someone I actually had a problem with.
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 4/2/2004 6:15:18 PM | Message Detail
Thought we might have a new topic for this, seeing as it isn't the pre-season anymore. Oh well, this'll do. Missed previewing Match 1, but I think it was an inevitable victory anyway.

Match 2 - Metroid v Pac-Man

I'll be honest. I had Pac-Man on my bracket for a week or so. But then a combo of board hype and common sense made me change it. Sure Pac-Man has been played by a lot more people, and nearly everybody's heard of it. Metroid is by far the weakest game in the sereies. Then I looked at previous character contests.

Sure these contests aren't a great judge, there's not much depth to either character really. But look at the performances of both. Samus trounced Pac-Man's results. I'm guessing this has got to be due to the games, but I may be wrong - it can't be entirely based on their character.

That said, series votes WILL play a part here, as mentioned, Metroid has been re-released in later games in the series. Pac-Man was on numerous systems, but that was 15 years ago. Metroid will get the youngsters vote. The older voters will be split. This is how I see it anyway.

Tip - Metroid.
I'll vote for - Pac-Man.
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1/1 - T1. Next: Metroid
From: redline15 | Posted: 4/2/2004 7:08:28 PM | Message Detail
well...if there won't be an individual topic...i guess i'll sound off here.
it does seem to work for most people...

tonight's match: metroid vs. pac-man

who most people here picked: metroid
metroid did well in the two summer contests. it's also more current...and most gamefaqs voters like recent games more than the classics. add that to pac-man's lousy showings in the past and it's no wonder most people went for metroid...even metroid 1.

who i picked: metroid
i really don't think pac-man's game will fare as badly as he did. ...but pac-man still did pretty badly.

who i'm picking now: metroid
the only change so far is that metal gear did a little worse than i expected. but metroid's bigger than metal gear...and pac-man's a lot smaller than smb3.

who i'm rooting for: pac-man
i don't want to see one of the classics go down this early. here's hoping all our so-called analysis is wrong...
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