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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 276
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:16:21 AM | Message Detail
My sig > yours.




*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

SFF Adjusted Summer 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/33

Summer 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/32

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*


Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's 2003 Archives (some offensive language):
http://www.thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/GanonVSMagusUpdates.txt
http://www.thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/MarioVSCronoUpdates.txt
http://www.thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/TommyVsDKupdates.txt
http://www.thengamer.com/gamefaqs/03Summer/03SummerEarlyVoteTotals.txt

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists (Old):
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 1/26/2006 10:03:24 AM | Message Detail
I beg to differ.
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Nominate Serge (Chrono Cross) for SC2K6!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=25921991
From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/26/2006 10:38:59 AM | Message Detail
I might as well join in too...
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: MMXC, Fight Night R2, Threads of Fate, Jade Empire
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 1/26/2006 10:50:19 AM | Message Detail
O rly?
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Nominate HaRRicH for SC2K6
Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 1/26/2006 10:58:00 AM | Message Detail
Hmph.
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Nominate pi for SC2k6!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/26/2006 1:12:14 PM | Message Detail
Sorry Leonhart and especially Mac, my sig > yours.

RPGuy though...I concede that your sig > mine.
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Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007
From: SephirothG | Posted: 1/26/2006 1:15:23 PM | Message Detail
Top half of my quote > yours
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"Let's mosey"
Proud member of the Jay Solano Army
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/26/2006 1:16:34 PM | Message Detail
Nah, but your bottom half definitely is.
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 1:20:38 PM | Message Detail
Tag.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Deus Ex, Perfect Dark, FFTA, MMXC, Phoenix Wright
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 7:58:28 PM | Message Detail
I have the lists fully finished and ready to be posted. If possible, please don't post here until I'm done.

I'll be posting Top 10 lists for the Summer 2005 Contest and Top 50 All Time lists.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Deus Ex, Perfect Dark, FFTA, MMXC, Phoenix Wright
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:00:09 PM | Message Detail
Summer 2005 Top 10 Lists

Top 10 Largest Vote Gaps (by vote total)

Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus [74493] vs (8) Yuri Hyuga [10813] - 63680
Gear Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake [77063] vs (8) Manny Calavera [14576] - 62487
Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Mario [80185] vs (8) Joanna Dark [18941] - 61244
Mushroom Round 2 - (1) Mario [75566] vs (4) Ness [15696] - 59870
Devil Round 1 - (4) Kerrigan [21058] vs (5) Vincent [79200] - 58142
Chaos Round 1 - (3) Tifa [75159] vs (6) Vyse [21114] - 54045
Flood Round 1 - (2) Crono [74580] vs (7) Zidane [22636] - 51944
20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man [75807] vs (8) Conker [23913] - 51894
Devil Round 1 - (2) Squall [74412] vs (7) Geno [25022] - 49390
Chaos Round 1 - (1) Sonic [69317] vs (8) Jin Kazama [21715] - 47602

Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (by vote total)

Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic [49099] vs (1) Mega Man [49841] - 742
Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent [49446] vs (2) Squall [48297] - 1149
Quarterfinals - (1) Solid Snake [51387] vs (3) Bowser [50191] - 1196
Flood Round 2 - (1) Master Chief [50165] vs (4) Donkey Kong [48597] - 1568
Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus [50153] vs (6) Knuckles [51909] - 1756
Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka [47920] vs (6) Tommy Vercetti [50165] - 2245
20XX Round 1 - (2) Revolver Ocelot [44075] vs (7) Pac-Man [46343] - 2268
Final Four - (2) Crono [53283] vs (1) Mega Man [50479] - 2804
Zebes Round 1 - (4) Riku [45455] vs (5) Frog [48604] - 3149
Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby [39857] vs (3) Bowser [43392] - 3535

Top 10 Largest Vote Gaps (by percentage)

Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus [87.32%] vs (8) Yuri Hyuga [12.68%] - 74.64%
Gear Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake [84.09%] vs (8) Manny Calavera [15.91%] - 68.18%
Mushroom Round 2 - (1) Mario [82.8%] vs (4) Ness [17.2%] - 65.6%
Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Mario [80.89%] vs (8) Joanna Dark [19.11%] - 61.78%
Devil Round 1 - (4) Kerrigan [21%] vs (5) Vincent [79%] - 58%
Chaos Round 1 - (3) Tifa [78.07%] vs (6) Vyse [21.93%] - 56.14%
Flood Round 1 - (2) Crono [76.72%] vs (7) Zidane [23.28%] - 53.44%
Chaos Round 1 - (1) Sonic [76.15%] vs (8) Jin Kazama [23.85%] - 52.3%
20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man [76.02%] vs (8) Conker [23.98%] - 52.04%
Dream Round 1 - (1) Kirby [75.21%] vs (8) Cecil [24.79%] - 50.42%

Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (by percentage)

Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic [49.63%] vs (1) Mega Man [50.37%] - 0.74%
Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent [50.59%] vs (2) Squall [49.41%] - 1.18%
Quarterfinals - (1) Solid Snake [50.59%] vs (3) Bowser [49.41%] - 1.18%
Flood Round 2 - (1) Master Chief [50.79%] vs (4) Donkey Kong [49.21%] - 1.58%
Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus [49.14%] vs (6) Knuckles [50.86%] - 1.72%
Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka [48.86%] vs (6) Tommy Vercetti [51.14%] - 2.28%
20XX Round 1 - (2) Revolver Ocelot [48.75%] vs (7) Pac-Man [51.25%] - 2.5%
Final Four - (2) Crono [51.35%] vs (1) Mega Man [48.65%] - 2.7%
Zebes Round 1 - (4) Riku [48.33%] vs (5) Frog [51.67%] - 3.34%
Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby [47.88%] vs (3) Bowser [52.12%] - 4.24%
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:01:43 PM | Message Detail
Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote total)

Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (1) Link [62541] vs (2) Cloud [56724] - 119265
Tournament of Champions Final - (1) Link [65397] vs (3) Sephiroth [53628] - 119025
Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (3) Sephiroth [64570] vs (4) Mario [50598] - 115168
Gear Round 2 - (1) Solid Snake [58421] vs (5) Zelda [48941] - 107362
Mushroom Round 3 - (1) Mario [67452] vs (3) Zero [39856] - 107308
Zebes Round 1 - (3) Ganondorf [65476] vs (6) Yuna [41503] - 106979
Chaos Round 1 - (2) Luigi [70232] vs (7) KOS-MOS [36187] - 106419
Dream Round 1 - (2) Ryu [59210] vs (7) Rikku [47054] - 106264
Chaos Round 3 - (1) Sonic [59703] vs (3) Tifa [46155] - 105858
Gear Round 1 - (4) Vivi [42324] vs (5) Zelda [62347] - 104671

Least Popular Polls (by vote total)

Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby [39857] vs (3) Bowser [43392] - 83249
20XX Round 2 - (3) Yoshi [61377] vs (7) Pac-Man [22893] - 84270
Mushroom Round 1 - (2) Lloyd Irving [46373] vs (7) Wesker [38421] - 84794
Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus [74493] vs (8) Yuri Hyuga [10813] - 85306
Chaos Round 1 - (4) Kratos Aurion [37162] vs (5) Diablo [48783] - 85945
Flood Round 1 - (4) Donkey Kong [56433] vs (5) Sam Fisher [30708] - 87141
Gear Round 1 - (2) Sora [62348] vs (7) Agent 47 [25796] - 88144
Mushroom Round 2 - (3) Zero [65557] vs (2) Lloyd Irving [23938] - 89485
Dream Round 1 - (1) Kirby [67556] vs (8) Cecil [22267] - 89823
Zebes Round 3 - (1) Samus [53776] vs (3) Ganondorf [36363] - 90139

Top 10 Largest Individual Vote Totals (by vote total)

Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Mario - 80185
Devil Round 1 - (5) Vincent - 79200
Gear Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake - 77063
20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man - 75807
Mushroom Round 2 - (1) Mario - 75566
Chaos Round 1 - (3) Tifa - 75159
Flood Round 1 - (2) Crono - 74580
Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus - 74493
Devil Round 1 - (2) Squall - 74412
Dream Round 1 - (4) Tidus - 73408

Smallest Individual Vote Totals (by vote total)

Zebes Round 1 - (8) Yuri Hyuga - 10813
Gear Round 1 - (8) Manny Calavera - 14576
Mushroom Round 2 - (4) Ness - 15696
Mushroom Round 1 - (8) Joanna Dark - 18941
Devil Round 1 - (4) Kerrigan - 21058
Chaos Round 1 - (6) Vyse - 21114
Chaos Round 1 - (8) Jin Kazama - 21715
Dream Round 1 - (8) Cecil - 22267
Flood Round 1 - (7) Zidane - 22636
20XX Round 2 - (7) Pac-Man - 22893
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:03:14 PM | Message Detail
Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by vote total)

Dream Round 3 - (3) Bowser - 43392
20XX Round 1 - (7) Pac-Man - 46343
Mushroom Round 1 - (2) Lloyd Irving - 46373
Zebes Round 1 - (5) Frog - 48604
Chaos Round 1 - (5) Diablo - 48783
Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent - 49446
Quarterfinals - (1) Mega Man - 49841
Flood Round 1 - (6) Tommy Vercetti - 50165
Flood Round 2 - (1) Master Chief - 50165
Gear Round 1 - (6) Alucard - 50482

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by vote total)

Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (2) Cloud - 56724
Tournament of Champions Final - (3) Sephiroth - 53628
Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (4) Mario - 50598
Final Four - (1) Mega Man - 50479
Quarterfinals - (3) Bowser - 50191
Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus - 50153
Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic - 49099
Gear Round 2 - (5) Zelda - 48941
Flood Round 2 - (4) Donkey Kong - 48597
Devil Round 3 - (2) Squall - 48297

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on percentage of entrants choosing the winner)

Gear Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake vs (8) Manny Calavera - 97.98%
Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus vs (8) Yuri Hyuga - 96.76%
Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Mario vs (8) Joanna Dark - 96.53%
Flood Round 1 - (1) Master Chief vs (8) CATS - 92.2%
20XX Round 1 - (3) Yoshi vs (6) Laharl - 92.16%
Chaos Round 1 - (1) Sonic vs (8) Jin Kazama - 92.1%
Flood Round 1 - (2) Crono vs (7) Zidane - 89.87%
Chaos Round 1 - (3) Tifa vs (6) Vyse - 89.72%
Devil Round 1 - (2) Squall vs (7) Geno - 89.12%
20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man vs (8) Conker - 88.83%

Hardest Matches to Predict (based on percentage of entrants choosing the winner)

Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent vs (2) Squall - 12.47%
Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17%
Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus vs (6) Knuckles - 35.08%
Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:03:43 PM | Message Detail
Let me get those into the RPGDL topic. From there it's on to the motherload...

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Deus Ex, Perfect Dark, FFTA, MMXC, Phoenix Wright
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:16:39 PM | Message Detail
All Time Top 50 Lists

Top 50 All Time Largest Vote Gaps (by vote total)

1) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (3) The Legend of Zelda [92894] vs (14) Adventure [4686] - 88208
2) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (1) Link [92998] vs (16) AiAi [8802] - 84196
3) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (2) Mega Man [91905] vs (15) Mr. Resetti [11400] - 80505
4) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (1) Cloud [94086] vs (16) CATS [14168] - 79918
5) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (6) Link to the Past [86690] vs (11) Gunstar Heroes [8418] - 78272
6) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (1) Mario [89189] vs (16) Captain Olimar [11678] - 77511
7) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy 7 [91749] vs (16) Suikoden II [15401] - 76348
8) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (4) Final Fantasy [86938] vs (13) Pitfall! [12256] - 74682
9) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (4) Crono [88469] vs (13) Tom Nook [14631] - 73838
10) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (10) Max Payne [18786] vs (2) Sephiroth [89595] - 70809
11) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth [90364] vs (15) Raziel [19838] - 70526
12) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Solid Snake [74251] vs (15) Tanner [4492] - 69759
13) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (2) Ocarina of Time [82903] vs (15) Fallout 2 [13150] - 69753
14) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake [84638] vs (16) Raiden [17480] - 67158
15) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 2 - (1) Link [77295] vs (8) Ganondorf [10640] - 66655
16) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth [77605] vs (15) Sly Cooper [12243] - 65362
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (1) Link [81148] vs (9) Fox [17261] - 63887
18) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus [74493] vs (8) Yuri Hyuga [10813] - 63680
19) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake [77063] vs (8) Manny Calavera [14576] - 62487
20) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (1) Link [72344] vs (16) CATS [10025] - 62319
21) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Mario [80185] vs (8) Joanna Dark [18941] - 61244
22) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (4) Super Mario World [79257] vs (13) The Simpsons [18028] - 61229
23) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 2 - (1) Mario [75566] vs (4) Ness [15696] - 59870
24) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (5) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 [78387] vs (12) Shining Force [18739] - 59648
25) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (1) Link [76476] vs (5) Yoshi [17082] - 59394
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:16:45 PM | Message Detail
26) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (12) Kefka [21373] vs (4) Crono [79999] - 58626
27) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (4) Kerrigan [21058] vs (5) Vincent [79200] - 58142
28) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (6) Mega Man [63039] vs (11) Ms. Pac Man [5257] - 57782
29) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 2 - (1) Cloud [74199] vs (8) Vyse [16947] - 57252
30) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (7) Super Mario 64 [69209] vs (10) NiGHTS [12375] - 56834
31) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 1 - (1) Sephiroth [70458] vs (8) Ramirez [13720] - 56738
32) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (3) Super Metroid [70520] vs (14) Phantasy Star IV [14144] - 56376
33) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man [70219] vs (16) Earthworm Jim [14406] - 55813
34) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (1) Ganondorf [67715] vs (8) Giygas [11966] - 55749
35) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (6) Mega Man [60914] vs (3) Serious Sam [5414] - 55500
36) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (2) Samus [81123] vs (15) Isaac [25650] - 55473
37) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 2 - (6) Donkey Kong [9559] vs (3) The Legend of Zelda [64193] - 54634
38) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (2) Samus [68889] vs (15) Lara Croft [14721] - 54168
39) Summer 2005 - Chaos Round 1 - (3) Tifa [75159] vs (6) Vyse [21114] - 54045
40) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (1) Cloud [71329] vs (16) Duke Nukem [17624] - 53705
41) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (1) Chrono Trigger [71697] vs (16) Secret of Mana [18610] - 53087
42) Spring 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Bowser [65599] vs (8) Pyramid Head [12606] - 52993
43) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (7) Sephiroth [61367] vs (10) Gabe Logan [8602] - 52765
44) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (4) Dante [74068] vs (13) Ryo Hazuki [21316] - 52752
45) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (2) Mario [65184] vs (15) JC Denton [12847] - 52337
46) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (2) Crono [74580] vs (7) Zidane [22636] - 51944
47) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man [75807] vs (8) Conker [23913] - 51894
48) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 2 - (7) Sam Fisher [15464] vs (2) Samus [65809] - 50345
49) Summer 2003 - East Round 2 - (1) Cloud [81716] vs (8) Auron [31470] - 50246
50) Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (6) Alucard [30891] vs (2) Sephiroth [80539] - 49648
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:21:07 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Smallest Vote Gaps (by vote total)

1) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog [45524] - (3) Master Chief [45517] - 7
2) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (3) Ryu Hayabusa [35220] vs (14) Jill Valentine [35193] - 27
3) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (1) Sonic [41939] vs (5) Samus [41973] - 34
4) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 2 - (5) Final Fantasy Tactics [40292] vs (4) Metal Gear Solid [40330] - 38
5) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (6) Frog [43913] vs (11) Liquid Snake [43820] - 93
6) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario [53831] vs (5) Crono [53716] - 115
7) Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (1) Mario [66571] vs (4) Crono [66434] - 137
8) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (6) Donkey Kong [48587] vs (11) Duck Hunt [48444] - 143
9) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (16) Starcraft [41480] vs (5) The Wind Waker [41309] - 171
10) Summer 2002 - North Round 4 - (1) Mario [64990] vs (2) Cloud [64713] - 277
11) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger [49494] vs (6) Link to the Past [49132] - 362
12) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo [56258] vs (16) Starcraft [56631] - 373
13) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft [48548] vs (2) SSBM [49082] - 534
14) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf [54529] vs (13) Magus [55179] - 650
15) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic [49099] vs (1) Mega Man [49841] - 742
16) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (6) Donkey Kong [50457] vs (3) Tommy Vercetti [51425] - 968
17) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (6) Mega Man [48185] vs (7) Sephiroth [49172] - 987
18) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (8) Soul Calibur [44532] vs (9) Kingdom Hearts [45620] - 1088
19) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent [49446] vs (2) Squall [48297] - 1149
20) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Solid Snake [51387] vs (3) Bowser [50191] - 1196
21) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (12) Aya Brea [30478] vs (4) Donkey Kong [31798] - 1320
22) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X [40253] vs (2) SSBM [41798] - 1545
23) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (8) Tidus [48334] vs (9) Shadow the Hedgehog [46788] - 1546
24) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 2 - (1) Master Chief [50165] vs (4) Donkey Kong [48597] - 1568
25) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (5) Tidus [57078] vs (12) Ganondorf [58660] - 1582
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:21:12 PM | Message Detail
26) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus [50153] vs (6) Knuckles [51909] - 1756
27) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (5) Pac Man [45905] vs (12) Kefka [47678] - 1773
28) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (3) Dr. Robotnik [37149] vs (6) Sin [35231] - 1918
29) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka [47920] vs (6) Tommy Vercetti [50165] - 2245
30) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Revolver Ocelot [44075] vs (7) Pac-Man [46343] - 2268
31) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 3 - (6) Frog [42563] vs (2) Solid Snake [44992] - 2429
32) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono [53283] vs (1) Mega Man [50479] - 2804
33) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (7) Strider [30662] vs (10) Raziel [27661] - 3001
34) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (4) Riku [45455] vs (5) Frog [48604] - 3149
35) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby [39857] vs (3) Bowser [43392] - 3535
36) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 [41605] vs (1) Chrono Trigger [45488] - 3883
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 3 - (6) Link to the Past [42628] vs (2) Final Fantasy 6 [38326] - 4302
38) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (6) Alucard [53328] vs (3) Kirby [48818] - 4510
39) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link [64443] vs (1) Cloud [59910] - 4533
40) Summer 2003 - East Round 2 - (7) Zero [47261] vs (2) Sonic [51903] - 4642
41) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (3) Jill Valentine [37539] vs (14) Kirby [32837] - 4702
42) Summer 2003 - Finals - (1) Cloud [64578] vs (2) Sephiroth [59865] - 4713
43) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link [71438] vs (1) Cloud [76199] - 4761
44) Spring 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Sigma [36494] vs (5) Andross [31732] - 4762
45) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison [39761] vs (2) Diablo [44627] - 4866
46) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (6) Perfect Dark [35930] vs (11) Symphony of the Night [40813] - 4883
47) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City [32138] vs (2) SSBM [37031] - 4893
48) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (7) Pikachu [30711] vs (10) PaRappa The Rapper [25736] - 4975
49) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus [46047] vs (7) Sephiroth [51177] - 5130
50) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (6) Alucard [33516] vs (11) Tails [28190] - 5326
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:24:48 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Largest Vote Gaps (by percentage)

1) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (3) The Legend of Zelda [95.2%] vs (14) Adventure [4.8%] - 90.4%
2) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Solid Snake [94.3%] vs (15) Tanner [5.7%] - 88.6%
3) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (6) Mega Man [92.3%] vs (11) Ms. Pac Man [7.7%] - 84.6%
4) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (6) Mega Man [91.84%] vs (3) Serious Sam [8.16%] - 83.68%
5) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (1) Link [91.35%] vs (16) AiAi [8.65%] - 82.70%
6) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (6) Link to the Past [91.15%] vs (11) Gunstar Heroes [8.85%] - 82.3%
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (2) Mega Man [88.96%] vs (15) Mr. Resetti [11.04%] - 77.92%
8) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (1) Mario [88.42%] vs (16) Captain Olimar [11.58%] - 76.84%
9) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 2 - (1) Link [87.9%] vs (8) Ganondorf [12.1%] - 75.8%
10) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (1) Link [87.83%] vs (16) CATS [12.17%] - 75.66%
11) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (7) Sephiroth [87.71%] vs (10) Gabe Logan [12.29%] - 75.42%
12) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (4) Final Fantasy [87.64%] vs (13) Pitfall! [12.36%] - 75.28%
13) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus [87.32%] vs (8) Yuri Hyuga [12.68%] - 74.64%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 2 - (6) Donkey Kong [12.96%] vs (3) The Legend of Zelda [87.04%] - 74.08%
15) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (1) Cloud [86.91%] vs (16) CATS [13.09%] - 73.82%
16) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth [86.37%] vs (15) Sly Cooper [13.63%] - 72.74%
17) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (2) Ocarina of Time [86.31%] vs (15) Fallout 2 [13.69%] - 72.62%
18) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (4) Crono [85.81%] vs (13) Tom Nook [14.19%] - 71.62%
19) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy 7 [85.63%] vs (16) Suikoden II [14.37%] - 71.26%
20) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (1) Ganondorf [84.98%] vs (8) Giygas [15.02%] - 69.96%
21) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (7) Super Mario 64 [84.83%] vs (10) NiGHTS [15.17%] - 69.66%
22) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (2) Link [84.31%] vs (15) Little Mac [15.69%] - 68.62%
23) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake [84.09%] vs (8) Manny Calavera [15.91%] - 68.18%
24) Spring 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Bowser [83.88%] vs (8)Pyramid Head [16.12%] - 67.76%
25) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 1 - (1) Sephiroth [83.7%] vs (8) Ramirez [16.3%] - 67.4%
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:24:57 PM | Message Detail
26) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (2) Mario [83.54%] vs (15) JC Denton [16.46%] - 67.08%
27) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (3) Super Metroid [83.29%] vs (14) Phantasy Star IV [16.71%] - 66.58%
28) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (7) Bowser [82.99%] vs (10) Guybrush Threepwood [17.01%] - 65.98%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man [82.98%] vs (16) Earthworm Jim [17.02%] - 65.96%
30) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake [82.88%] vs (16) Raiden [17.12%] - 65.76%
31) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 2 - (1) Mario [82.8%] vs (4) Ness [17.2%] - 65.6%
32) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (10) Max Payne [17.33%] vs (2) Sephiroth [82.67%] - 65.34%
33) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (1) Link [82.46%] vs (9) Fox [17.54%] - 64.92%
34) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (1) Sonic [82.44%] vs (16) Pitfall Harry [17.56%] - 64.88%
35) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (2) Samus [82.39%] vs (15) Lara Croft [17.61%] - 64.78%
36) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 [82.3%] vs (16) Metal Gear [17.7%] - 64.6%
37) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth [82%] vs (15) Raziel [18%] - 64%
38) Summer 2002 - North Round 3 - (1) Mario [81.98%] vs (4) Donkey Kong [18.02%] - 63.96%
39) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (1) Link [81.74%] vs (5) Yoshi [18.26%] - 63.48%
40) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (7) Sephiroth [81.52%] vs (2) Crash Bandicoot [18.48%] - 63.04%
41) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (4) Super Mario World [81.47%] vs (13) The Simpsons [18.53%] - 62.94%
42) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 2 - (1) Cloud [81.41%] vs (8) Vyse [18.59%] - 62.82%
43) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (6) Magus [81.04%] vs (11) Luca Blight [18.96%] - 62.08%
44) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 2 - (7) Sam Fisher [19.03%] vs (2) Samus [80.97%] - 61.94%
45) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Mario [80.89%] vs (8) Joanna Dark [19.11%] - 61.78%
46) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (1) Sonic [80.84%] vs (16) Terry Bogard [19.16%] - 61.68%
47) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (3) Goldeneye [80.81%] vs (14) Panzer Dragoon Saga [19.19%] - 61.62%
48) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (4) Ryu [80.79%] vs (13) CATS [19.21%] - 61.58%
49) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (5) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 [80.71%] vs (12) Shining Force [19.29%] - 61.42%
50) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (7) Knuckles [80.56%] vs (10) Akira [19.44%] - 61.12%
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:28:18 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Smallest Vote Gaps (by percentage)

1) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog [50.0038%] - (3) Master Chief [49.9962%] - 0.0076%
2) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (3) Ryu Hayabusa [50.02%] vs (14) Jill Valentine [49.98%] - 0.04%
3) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (1) Sonic [49.98%] vs (5) Samus [50.02%] - 0.04%
4) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 2 - (5) Final Fantasy Tactics [49.98%] vs (4) Metal Gear Solid [50.02%] - 0.04%
5) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (6) Frog [50.05%] vs (11) Liquid Snake [49.95%] - 0.1%
6) Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (1) Mario [50.05%] vs (4) Crono [49.95%] - 0.1%
7) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario [50.05%] vs (5) Crono [49.95%] - 0.1%
8) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (6) Donkey Kong [50.07%] vs (11) Duck Hunt [49.93%] - 0.14%
9) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (16) Starcraft [50.1%] vs (5) The Wind Waker [49.9%] - 0.2%
10) Summer 2002 - North Round 4 - (1) Mario [50.11%] vs (2) Cloud [49.89%] - 0.22%
11) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo [49.83%] vs (16) Starcraft [50.17%] - 0.34%
12) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger [50.18%] vs (6) Link to the Past [49.82%] - 0.36%
13) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft [49.73%] vs (2) SSBM [50.27%] - 0.54%
14) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf [49.7%] vs (13) Magus [50.3%] - 0.6%
15) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic [49.63%] vs (1) Mega Man [50.37%] - 0.74%
16) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (6) Donkey Kong [49.52%] vs (3) Tommy Vercetti [50.48%] - 0.96%
17) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (6) Mega Man [49.49%] vs (7) Sephiroth [50.51%] - 1.02%
18) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent [50.59%] vs (2) Squall [49.41%] - 1.18%
19) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Solid Snake [50.59%] vs (3) Bowser [49.41%] - 1.18%
20) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (8) Soul Calibur [49.4%] vs (9) Kingdom Hearts [50.6%] - 1.2%
21) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (5) Tidus [49.32%] vs (12) Ganondorf [50.68%] - 1.36%
22) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 2 - (1) Master Chief [50.79%] vs (4) Donkey Kong [49.21%] - 1.58%
23) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (8) Tidus [50.81%] vs (9) Shadow the Hedgehog [49.19%] - 1.62%
24) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus [49.14%] vs (6) Knuckles [50.86%] - 1.72%
25) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X [49.06%] vs (2) SSBM [50.94%] - 1.88%
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:28:23 PM | Message Detail
26) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (5) Pac Man [49.05%] vs (12) Kefka [50.95%] - 1.9%
27) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (12) Aya Brea [48.94%] vs (4) Donkey Kong [51.06%] - 2.12%
28) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka [48.86%] vs (6) Tommy Vercetti [51.14%] - 2.28%
29) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Revolver Ocelot [48.75%] vs (7) Pac-Man [51.25%] - 2.5%
30) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (3) Dr. Robotnik [51.32%] vs (6) Sin [48.68%] - 2.64%
31) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono [51.35%] vs (1) Mega Man [48.65%] - 2.7%
32) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 3 - (6) Frog [48.61%] vs (2) Solid Snake [51.39%] - 2.78%
33) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link [48.39%] vs (1) Cloud [51.61%] - 3.22%
34) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (4) Riku [48.33%] vs (5) Frog [51.67%] - 3.34%
35) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link [51.82%] vs (1) Cloud [48.18%] - 3.64%
36) Summer 2003 - Finals - (1) Cloud [51.89%] vs (2) Sephiroth [48.11%] - 3.78%
37) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby [47.88%] vs (3) Bowser [52.12%] - 4.24%
38) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (6) Alucard [52.21%] vs (3) Kirby [47.79%] - 4.42%
39) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 [47.77%] vs (1) Chrono Trigger [52.23%] - 4.46%
40) Summer 2003 - East Round 2 - (7) Zero [47.66%] vs (2) Sonic [52.34%] - 4.68%
41) Summer 2005 - Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (1) Link [52.44%] vs (2) Cloud [47.56%] - 4.88%
42) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (7) Strider [52.57%] vs (10) Raziel [47.43%] - 5.14%
43) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus [47.36%] vs (7) Sephiroth [52.64%] - 5.28%
44) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 3 - (6) Link to the Past [52.66%] vs (2) Final Fantasy 6 [47.34%] - 5.32%
45) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison [47.12%] vs (2) Diablo [52.88%] - 5.76%
46) Summer 2002 - East Round 4 - (5) Crono [52.93%] vs (2) Solid Snake [47.07%] - 5.86%
47) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (3) Master Chief [52.96%] vs (14) Felix [47.04%] - 5.92%
48) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris [46.98%] vs (2) Sonic [53.02%] - 6.04%
49) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (6) Perfect Dark [46.82%] vs (11) Symphony of the Night [53.18%] - 6.36%
50) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono [53.24%] vs (2) Mario [46.76%] - 6.48%
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:31:52 PM | Message Detail
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:33:09 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Most Popular Polls (by vote total)

1) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link [71438] vs (1) Cloud [76199] - 147637
2) Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (1) Mario [66571] vs (4) Crono [66434] - 133005
3) Summer 2002 - North Round 4 - (1) Mario [64990] vs (2) Cloud [64713] - 129703
4) Summer 2003 - Finals - (1) Cloud [64578] vs (2) Sephiroth [59865] - 124443
5) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link [64443] vs (1) Cloud [59910] - 124353
6) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth [75979] vs (2) Mega Man [48213] - 124192
7) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario [47458] vs (2) Sephiroth [76129] - 123587
8) Summer 2005 - Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (1) Link [62541] vs (2) Cloud [56724] - 119265
9) Summer 2005 - Tournament of Champions Final - (1) Link [65397] vs (3) Sephiroth [53628] - 119025
10) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake [55322] vs (2) Mega Man [63639] - 118961
11) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (6) Squall [69958] vs (3) Luigi [46232] - 116190
12) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (5) Tidus [57078] vs (12) Ganondorf [58660] - 115738
13) Summer 2005 - Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (3) Sephiroth [64570] vs (4) Mario [50598] - 115168
14) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (7) Lara Croft [42940] vs (10) Zelda [70941] - 113881
15) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (7) KOS-MOS [34246] vs (2) Samus [78948] - 113194
16) Summer 2003 - East Round 2 - (1) Cloud [81716] vs (8) Auron [31470] - 113186
17) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti [37456] vs (2) Mega Man [75551] - 113007
18) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo [56258] vs (16) Starcraft [56631] - 112889
19) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (7) Zero [70885] vs (10) Scorpion [41916] - 112801
20) Summer 2003 - North Round 3 - (6) Squall [47103] vs (2) Samus [65582] - 112685
21) Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (6) Alucard [30891] vs (2) Sephiroth [80539] - 111430
22) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (1) Cloud [77991] vs (5) Bowser [33381] - 111372
23) Summer 2003 - North Round 3 - (1) Link [72188] vs (13) Magus [38747] - 110935
24) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth [90364] vs (15) Raziel [19838] - 110202
25) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf [54529] vs (13) Magus [55179] - 109708
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:33:17 PM | Message Detail
26) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (8) Auron [70199] vs (9) Tails [38685] - 108884
27) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (1) Mario [59756] vs (9) Shadow [48694] - 108450
28) Summer 2003 - North Round 4 - (1) Link [67294] vs (2) Samus [41139] - 108433
29) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (10) Max Payne [18786] vs (2) Sephiroth [89595] - 108381
30) Summer 2003 - East Round 2 - (11) Aeris [65136] vs (3) Master Chief [43161] - 108297
31) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (1) Cloud [94086] vs (16) CATS [14168] - 108254
32) Summer 2003 - East Round 4 - (1) Cloud [71651] vs (2) Sonic [36571] - 108222
33) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (10) Zelda [42329] vs (2) Mega Man [65528] - 107857
34) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (2) Samus [81123] vs (15) Isaac [25650] - 107683
35) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario [53831] vs (5) Crono [53716] - 107547
36) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (1) Solid Snake [61510] vs (5) Ryu [45915] - 107425
37) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (1) Solid Snake [58421] vs (5) Zelda [48941] - 107362
38) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 3 - (1) Mario [67452] vs (3) Zero [39856] - 107308
39) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy 7 [91749] vs (16) Suikoden II [15401] - 107150
40) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (3) Ganondorf [65476] vs (6) Yuna [41503] - 106979
41) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris [50241] vs (2) Sonic [56701] - 106942
42) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (3) Master Chief [56549] vs (14) Felix [50231] - 106780
43) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (2) Sonic [73484] vs (15) Ken [33146] - 106630
44) Summer 2005 - Chaos Round 1 - (2) Luigi [70232] vs (7) KOS-MOS [36187] - 106419
45) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 1 - (2) Ryu [59210] vs (7) Rikku [47054] - 106264
46) Summer 2005 - Chaos Round 3 - (1) Sonic [59703] vs (3) Tifa [46155] - 105858
47) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 1 - (4) Vivi [42324] vs (5) Zelda [62347] - 104671
48) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (8) Wario [36721] vs (9) Shadow [67886] - 104607
49) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (1) Mario [59463] vs (1) Solid Snake [44483] - 103946
50) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono [53283] vs (1) Mega Man [50479] - 103762
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:36:37 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Least Popular Polls (by vote total)

1) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (4) Max Payne [38707] vs (13) Dirk the Daring [12109] - 50816
2) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (1) Pac Man [32607] vs (9) Kyo Kusanagi [19282] - 51889
3) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (6) Bomberman [40943] vs (11) Kane [11476] - 52419
4) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (4) Donkey Kong [32602] vs (13) Bub [20016] - 52618
5) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (3) Duke Nukem [33160] vs (14) Iori Yagami [19714] - 52874
6) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (1) Mario [39436] vs (16) Servbot [13777] - 53213
7) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (8) Abe [22760] vs (9) Kyo Kusanagi [31160] - 53920
8) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (3) Serious Sam [32301] vs (14) Mr. Driller [22696] - 54997
9) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (8) Ryo Hazuki [39574] vs (9) Guybrush Threepwood [15818] - 55392
10) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (3) Gordon Freeman [22560] vs (14) Tina Armstrong [33801] - 56361
11) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (7) Pikachu [30711] vs (10) PaRappa The Rapper [25736] - 56447
12) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (5) Terry Bogard [19929] vs (12) Aya Brea [36637] - 56566
13) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (1) Pac Man [41150] vs (16) Goemon [15839] - 56989
14) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (1) Sonic [33602] vs (8) Tidus [23516] - 57118
15) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (8) Spyro the Dragon [18186] vs (9) Morrigan Aensland [39173] - 57359
16) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (2) Crash Bandicoot [36305] vs (15) Ulala [21111] - 57416
17) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (4) Ryu [46869] vs (13) CATS [11145] - 58014
18) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (4) Dante [40745] vs (13) Q*Bert [17453] - 58198
19) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (6) Alucard [35864] vs (3) Duke Nukem [22445] - 58309
20) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (7) Strider [30662] vs (10) Raziel [27661] - 58323
21) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (5) Scorpion [42327] vs (12) Kazuya Mishima [17282] - 59609
22) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion [39171] vs (4) Max Payne [20754] - 59925
23) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (6) Kasumi [22688] vs (11) Aeris [38190] - 60878
24) Summer 2002 - East Round 2 - (1) Lara Croft [36308] vs (8) Ryo Hazuki [24834] - 61142
25) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 1 - (4) Luca Blight [24634] vs (5) Wesker [36560] - 61194
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:36:45 PM | Message Detail
26) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (6) Alucard [33516] vs (11) Tails [28190] - 61706
27) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (7) Knuckles [49964] vs (10) Akira [12057] - 62021
28) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (12) Aya Brea [30478] vs (4) Donkey Kong [31798] - 62276
29) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (5) Samus [40857] vs (12) Ken [21698] - 62555
30) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (8) Tidus [35004] vs (9) Claire Redfield [28117] - 63121
31) Summer 2002 - North Round 3 - (1) Mario [52333] vs (4) Donkey Kong [11507] - 63840
32) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 1 - (4) Vergil [41182] vs (5) Ghaleon [22713] - 63895
33) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (5) Crono [49283] vs (12) Simon Belmont [14906] - 64189
34) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (1) Lara Croft [44737] vs (16) Chop Chop Master Onion [19512] - 64249
35) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (1) Sonic [53023] vs (16) Pitfall Harry [11292] - 64315
36) Summer 2002 - East Round 2 - (11) Aeris [50055] vs (14) Tina Armstrong [15009] - 65064
37) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (6) FFTA [21821] vs (3) Final Fantasy X [43397] - 65218
38) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (6) Bomberman [27432] vs (3) Jill Valentine [37828] - 65260
39) Spring 2005 - Mushroom Round 2 - (3) Revolver Ocelot [35693] vs (2) Dr. Wily [29785] - 65478
40) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (6) FFTA [43716] vs (11) Fire Emblem [22159] - 65875
41) Summer 2002 - East Round 2 - (5) Crono [43939] vs (4) Dante [22055] - 65994
42) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (7) Sephiroth [53956] vs (2) Crash Bandicoot [12235] - 66191
43) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (6) Mega Man [60914] vs (3) Serious Sam [5414] - 66328
44) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (1) Mario [44448] vs (9) Morrigan Aensland [22084] - 66532
45) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (5) The Wind Waker [36909] vs (4) Metroid Prime [29935] - 66844
46) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 1 - (3) Albedo [21337] vs (6) M. Bison [46264] - 67601
47) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 2 - (7) Pong [17956] vs (2) Tetris [49723] - 67679
48) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (4) Ansem [36637] vs (5) CATS [31153] - 67790
49) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (5) Samus [39293] vs (4) Ryu [28630] - 67923
50) Summer 2002 - East Round 2 - (7) Knuckles [26748] vs (2) Solid Snake [41335] - 68083
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:40:16 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Largest Individual Vote Totals (by vote total)

1) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (1) Cloud - 94086
2) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (1) Link - 92998
3) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (3) The Legend of Zelda - 92894
4) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (2) Mega Man - 91905
5) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy 7 - 91749
6) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth - 90364
7) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (2) Sephiroth - 89595
8) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (1) Mario - 89189
9) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (4) Crono - 88469
10) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (4) Final Fantasy - 86938
11) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (6) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 86690
12) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake - 84638
13) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (2) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 82903
14) Summer 2003 - East Round 2 - (1) Cloud - 81716
15) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (1) Link - 81148
16) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (2) Samus - 81123
17) Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (2) Sephiroth - 80539
18) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Mario - 80185
19) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (4) Crono - 79999
20) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (4) Super Mario World - 79257
21) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (5) Vincent - 79200
22) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (2) Samus - 78948
23) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (5) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - 78387
24) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (1) Cloud - 77991
25) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth - 77605
26) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 2 - (1) Link - 77295
27) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake - 77063
28) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (1) Link - 76476
29) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Cloud - 76199
30) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Sephiroth - 76129
31) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth - 75979
32) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man - 75807
33) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 2 - (1) Mario - 75566
34) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (2) Mega Man - 75551
35) Summer 2005 - Chaos Round 1 - (3) Tifa - 75159
36) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (2) Crono - 74580
37) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus - 74493
38) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (2) Squall - 74412
39) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Solid Snake - 74251
40) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 2 - (1) Cloud - 74199
41) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (5) Bowser - 74164
42) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (4) Dante - 74068
43) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (2) Sonic - 73484
44) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 1 - (4) Tidus - 73408
45) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (3) Yoshi - 72563
46) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (1) Link - 72344
47) Summer 2003 - North Round 3 - (1) Link - 72188
48) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (1) Chrono Trigger - 71697
49) Summer 2003 - East Round 4 - (1) Cloud - 71651
50) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link - 71438
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:43:25 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Smallest Individual Vote Totals (by vote total)

1) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (15) Tanner - 4492
2) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (14) Adventure - 4686
3) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (11) Ms. Pac Man - 5257
4) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (3) Serious Sam - 5414
5) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (11) Gunstar Heroes - 8418
6) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (10) Gabe Logan - 8602
7) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (16) AiAi - 8802
8) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 2 - (6) Donkey Kong - 9559
9) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (16) CATS - 10025
10) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 2 - (8) Ganondorf - 10640
11) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (8) Yuri Hyuga - 10813
12) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (15) Little Mac - 11076
13) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (13) CATS - 11145
14) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (16) Pitfall Harry - 11292
15) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (15) Mr. Resetti - 11400
16) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (11) Kane - 11476
17) Summer 2002 - North Round 3 - (4) Donkey Kong - 11507
18) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (16) Captain Olimar - 11678
19) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (8) Giygas - 11966
20) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (10) Akira - 12057
21) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (13) Dirk the Daring - 12109
22) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (2) Crash Bandicoot - 12235
23) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (15) Sly Cooper - 12243
24) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (13) Pitfall! - 12256
25) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (10) NiGHTS into dreams... - 12375
26) Spring 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (8) Pyramid Head - 12606
27) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (10) Guybrush Threepwood - 12652
28) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (15) JC Denton - 12847
29) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (15) Fallout 2 - 13150
30) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (16) Metal Gear - 13197
31) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (11) Luca Blight - 13367
32) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 1 - (8) Ramirez - 13720
33) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (16) Servbot - 13777
34) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (14) Phantasy Star IV - 14144
35) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (16) CATS - 14168
36) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (16) Earthworm Jim - 14406
37) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 2 - (9) Xenogears - 14445
38) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (14) Panzer Dragoon Saga - 14504
39) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 1 - (8) Manny Calavera - 14576
40) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (13) Ratchet - 14602
41) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (13) Tom Nook - 14631
42) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (15) Lara Croft - 14721
43) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (12) Simon Belmont - 14906
44) Summer 2002 - East Round 2 - (14) Tina Armstrong - 15009
45) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 1 - (7) Officer Tenpenny - 15285
46) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (16) Terry Bogard - 15316
47) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (16) Suikoden II - 15401
48) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (7) Pikachu - 15445
49) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 2 - (7) Sam Fisher - 15464
50) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 2 - (4) Ness - 15696
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:46:37 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Least Impressive Winners (by vote total)

1) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (7) Strider - 30662
2) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (7) Pikachu - 30711
3) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (9) Kyo Kusanagi - 31160
4) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (4) Donkey Kong - 31798
5) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (3) Serious Sam - 32301
6) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (4) Donkey Kong - 32602
7) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (1) Pac Man - 32607
8) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (3) Duke Nukem - 33160
9) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (6) Alucard - 33516
10) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (1) Sonic - 33602
11) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (14) Tina Armstrong - 33801
12) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (8) Tidus - 35004
13) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (3) Ryu Hayabusa - 35220
14) Spring 2005 - Mushroom Round 2 - (3) Revolver Ocelot - 35693
15) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (6) Alucard - 35864
16) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (2) Crash Bandicoot - 36305
17) Summer 2002 - East Round 2 - (1) Lara Croft - 36308
18) Spring 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (4) Sigma - 36494
19) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 1 - (5) Wesker - 36560
20) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (12) Aya Brea - 36637
21) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (4) Ansem - 36637
22) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (5) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 36909
23) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (2) Super Smash Brothers Melee - 37031
24) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (3) Dr. Robotnik - 37149
25) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (3) Jill Valentine - 37539
26) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (3) Jill Valentine - 37828
27) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (11) Aeris - 38190
28) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (4) Max Payne - 38707
29) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion - 39171
30) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (9) Morrigan Aensland - 39173
31) Summer 2002 - West Round 2 - (5) Samus - 39293
32) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (1) Mario - 39436
33) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (7) Master Hand - 39535
34) Summer 2002 - South Round 3 - (5) Scorpion - 39539
35) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (8) Ryo Hazuki - 39574
36) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 1 - (3) Lavos - 39709
37) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (6) Ness - 40130
38) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 2 - (4) Metal Gear Solid - 40330
39) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (9) Xenogears - 40495
40) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (16) Starcraft - 40698
41) Summer 2002 - East Round 1 - (4) Dante - 40745
42) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (11) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - 40813
43) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (5) Samus - 40857
44) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (6) Bomberman - 40943
45) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (1) Pac Man - 41150
46) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 2 - (5) Yoshi - 41151
47) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 1 - (4) Vergil - 41182
48) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (5) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 41309
49) Summer 2002 - East Round 2 - (2) Solid Snake - 41335
50) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (4) Metroid Prime - 41354
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:49:44 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Most Impressive Losers (by vote total)

1) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link - 71438
2) Summer 2003 - South Round 3 - (4) Crono - 66434
3) Summer 2002 - North Round 4 - (2) Cloud - 64713
4) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Cloud - 59910
5) Summer 2003 - Finals - (2) Sephiroth - 59865
6) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (5) Tidus - 57078
7) Summer 2005 - Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (2) Cloud - 56724
8) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo: Combat Evolved - 56258
9) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake - 55322
10) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf - 54529
11) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (5) Crono - 53716
12) Summer 2005 - Tournament of Champions Final - (3) Sephiroth - 53628
13) Summer 2005 - Tournament of Champions Semifinal - (4) Mario - 50598
14) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (1) Mega Man - 50479
15) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (6) Donkey Kong - 50457
16) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris - 50241
17) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (14) Felix - 50231
18) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (3) Bowser - 50191
19) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus - 50153
20) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (6) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 49132
21) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic - 49099
22) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (5) Zelda - 48941
23) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (3) Kirby - 48818
24) Summer 2003 - South Round 2 - (9) Shadow - 48694
25) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 2 - (4) Donkey Kong - 48597
26) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft - 48548
27) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (11) Duck Hunt - 48444
28) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (2) Squall - 48297
29) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Mega Man - 48213
30) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (6) Mega Man - 48185
31) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka - 47920
32) Summer 2005 - Finals - (2) Crono - 47762
33) Summer 2005 - Chaos Round 2 - (2) Luigi - 47705
34) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario - 47458
35) Summer 2003 - East Round 2 - (7) Zero - 47261
36) Summer 2003 - North Round 3 - (6) Squall - 47103
37) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 1 - (7) Rikku - 47054
38) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (9) Shadow the Hedgehog - 46788
39) Summer 2002 - East Round 4 - (2) Solid Snake - 46697
40) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (3) Luigi - 46232
41) Summer 2005 - Chaos Round 3 - (3) Tifa - 46155
42) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus - 46047
43) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (5) Ryu - 45915
44) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (5) Pac Man - 45905
45) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante - 45893
46) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (6) Knuckles - 45780
47) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (9) Yuna - 45531
48) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (3) Master Chief - 45517
49) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 2 - (2) Auron - 45514
50) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (4) Riku - 45455
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:53:21 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Easiest Matches to Predict (based on percentage of entrants choosing the winner)

1) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (1) Link vs (16) AiAi - 99.12%
2) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (3) The Legend of Zelda vs (14) Adventure - 99.02%
3) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (1) Link vs (16) CATS - 98.79%
4) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (2) Mario vs (15) JC Denton - 98.28%
5) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (1) Mario vs (16) Captain Olimar - 97.99%
6) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake vs (8) Manny Calavera - 97.98%
7) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (1) Cloud vs (16) Duke Nukem - 97.97%
8) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (6) Link to the Past vs (11) Gunstar Heroes - 97.75%
9) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (1) Sonic vs (16) Terry Bogard - 97.47%
10) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (1) Mega Man vs (16) Earthworm Jim - 97.47%
11) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 1 - (1) Sephiroth vs (8) Ramirez - 97.41%
12) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth vs (15) Sly Cooper - 97.37%
13) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Solid Snake vs (15) Tanner - 97.27%
14) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 1 - (1) Ganondorf vs (8) Giygas - 97.23%
15) Summer 2005 - Zebes Round 1 - (1) Samus vs (8) Yuri Hyuga - 96.76%
16) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (1) Final Fantasy 7 vs (16) Suikoden II - 96.76%
17) Summer 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Mario vs (8) Joanna Dark - 96.53%
18) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 2 - (1) Cloud vs (8) Vyse - 96.48%
19) Spring 2004 - Division 8 Round 1 - (4) Final Fantasy vs (13) Pitfall! - 96.46%
20) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (2) Link vs (15) Little Mac - 96.39%
21) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (2) Ocarina of Time vs (15) Fallout 2 - 96.32%
22) Spring 2005 - Mushroom Round 1 - (1) Bowser vs (8) Pyramid Head - 96.13%
23) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 2 - (1) Link vs (8) Ganondorf - 96.07%
24) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (4) Super Mario World vs (13) The Simpsons - 95.91%
25) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (1) Mario vs (16) Servbot - 95.87%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (2) Mega Man vs (15) Mr. Resetti - 95.61%
27) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (1) Sonic vs (16) Pitfall Harry - 95.59%
28) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (1) Link vs (9) Fox - 95.42%
29) Spring 2005 - Jenova Round 2 - (1) Sephiroth vs (4) Vergil - 95.37%
30) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (7) Bowser vs (10) Guybrush Threepwood - 95%
31) Summer 2003 - East Round 1 - (1) Cloud vs (16) CATS - 94.91%
32) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (7) Super Mario 64 vs (10) NiGHTS - 94.65%
33) Summer 2002 - North Round 1 - (4) Donkey Kong vs (13) Bub - 94.18%
34) Summer 2002 - West Round 1 - (6) Mega Man vs (11) Ms. Pac Man - 94.08%
35) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (1) Link vs (5) Yoshi - 94.05%
36) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (2) Sephiroth vs (15) Raziel - 93.91%
37) Summer 2003 - North Round 1 - (2) Samus vs (15) Isaac - 93.8%
38) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 1 - (3) Crono vs (14) Conker - 93.43%
39) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 2 - (7) Bowser vs (2) Mario - 92.85%
40) Summer 2003 - South Round 1 - (4) Crono vs (13) Tom Nook - 92.8%
41) Spring 2004 - Division 32-64 Round 1 - (3) Goldeneye vs (14) Panzer Dragoon Saga - 92.61%
42) Summer 2003 - West Round 1 - (1) Solid Snake vs (16) Raiden - 92.56%
43) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (14) Shenmue - 92.24%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (1) Master Chief vs (8) CATS - 92.2%
45) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 1 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (16) Secret of Mana - 92.2%
46) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (3) Yoshi vs (6) Laharl - 92.16%
47) Summer 2005 - Chaos Round 1 - (1) Sonic vs (8) Jin Kazama - 92.1%
48) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (5) The Wind Waker vs (12) Skies of Arcadia - 92%
49) Summer 2002 - South Round 1 - (4) Max Payne vs (13) Dirk the Daring - 91.92%
50) Summer 2004 - Chaos Round 1 - (2) Samus vs (15) Lara Croft - 91.74%
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:57:02 PM | Message Detail
Top 50 All Time Hardest Matches to Predict (based on percentage of entrants choosing the winner)

1) Summer 2003 - Finals - (1) Cloud vs (2) Sephiroth - 6.04%
2) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft vs (2) SSBM - 7.16%
3) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (16) Starcraft vs (5) The Wind Waker - 7.91%
4) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent vs (2) Squall - 12.47%
5) Summer 2002 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Link - 12.77%
6) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 13.37%
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
8) Summer 2002 - East Round 4 - (5) Crono vs (2) Solid Snake - 14.63%
9) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 3 - (1) Kefka vs (7) Diablo - 14.76%
10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83%
11) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (16) Starcraft vs (9) Kingdom Hearts - 15.62%
12) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (1) Pac Man vs (5) Scorpion - 17.33%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
16) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo vs (16) Starcraft - 24.09%
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
21) Summer 2005 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17%
22) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (3) Duke Nukem - 28.78%
23) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison vs (2) Diablo - 30.13%
24) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (2) Link vs (7) Sephiroth - 30.63%
25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
31) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (1) Sonic vs (5) Samus - 31.75%
32) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (6) Bomberman vs (3) Jill Valentine - 32.45%
33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
34) Summer 2002 - East Round 3 - (1) Lara Croft vs (5) Crono - 33.05%
35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
38) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus vs (6) Knuckles - 35.08%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
43) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (5) Ryu vs (4) Dante - 37.54%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
45) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (6) Squall vs (3) Luigi - 38.1%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31%
48) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus vs (7) Sephiroth - 38.34%
49) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Revolver Ocelot vs (7) Pac-Man - 38.36%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/26/2006 8:59:18 PM | Message Detail
Aaaaaaand I'm spent.

Stats are now caught up, and the RPGDL topic has been updated accordingly. I'm going to bed.

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From: Yesmar | Posted: 1/26/2006 9:13:32 PM | Message Detail
5) Summer 2002 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Link - 12.77%
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
12) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (1) Pac Man vs (5) Scorpion - 17.33%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
21) Summer 2005 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17%
24) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (2) Link vs (7) Sephiroth - 30.63%
25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
34) Summer 2002 - East Round 3 - (1) Lara Croft vs (5) Crono - 33.05%
35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
48) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus vs (7) Sephiroth - 38.34%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

23/50

Not that bad, I guess.
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From: Yesmar | Posted: 1/26/2006 9:14:49 PM | Message Detail
That's how many I got right by the way.
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Team X in Trivia XVII
From: Yesmar | Posted: 1/26/2006 9:16:01 PM | Message Detail
Ooops. 22/50. Knock off Lara Vs. Crono
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Team X in Trivia XVII
From: Haste2 | Posted: 1/26/2006 9:26:37 PM | Message Detail
*got 24/50 of those correct* I wouldn't be surprised if some managed 30 or more... I've only correctly called one major upset (according to Board 8) between SC2K3 and SC2K5. I'm not one who likes to take a lot of risks. At least that one upset allowed me to get into the Top 50 for a couple days. I called two or three big upsets right in SC2K2, but I hardly visited the board at all...

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/26/2006 9:58:17 PM | Message Detail
2) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft vs (2) SSBM - 7.16%
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
8) Summer 2002 - East Round 4 - (5) Crono vs (2) Solid Snake - 14.63%
10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
22) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (3) Duke Nukem - 28.78%
24) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (2) Link vs (7) Sephiroth - 30.63% (Had the winner, differnt loser)
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
31) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (1) Sonic vs (5) Samus - 31.75%
32) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (6) Bomberman vs (3) Jill Valentine - 32.45%
34) Summer 2002 - East Round 3 - (1) Lara Croft vs (5) Crono - 33.05%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31%
48) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus vs (7) Sephiroth - 38.34%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

29/50
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 1/26/2006 10:04:43 PM | Message Detail
3) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (16) Starcraft vs (5) The Wind Waker - 7.91%
11) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (16) Starcraft vs (9) Kingdom Hearts - 15.62%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
16) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo vs (16) Starcraft - 24.09%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

17/50

...Of course, not being around to predict 2 contests doesn't help :(
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 1/26/2006 10:15:35 PM | Message Detail
2) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft vs (2) SSBM - 7.16%
9) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 3 - (1) Kefka vs (7) Diablo - 14.76%
10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
21) Summer 2005 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17%
23) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison vs (2) Diablo - 30.13%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

21/50

If you wish to be merciful and only count the matches for contests which I've entered, it's 21/29.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/26/2006 10:30:49 PM | Message Detail
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

21/50...21/38 when you don't count the 2k2 contest I didn't make a bracket for.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 1/27/2006 7:09:30 AM | Message Detail
I've gotten 14/29 for all of the contests I've entered. And I was so close on so many others, bah.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 1/27/2006 8:51:16 AM | Message Detail
Bump.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/27/2006 9:35:06 AM | Message Detail
I'm fairly sure today's poll applies to RPGs more than anything. It's not worded very well.

And TRE stole what I was thinking again. Yay Summer 2003.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/27/2006 9:37:35 AM | Message Detail
2) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft vs (2) SSBM - 7.16%
4) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent vs (2) Squall - 12.47%
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
16) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo vs (16) Starcraft - 24.09%
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
32) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (6) Bomberman vs (3) Jill Valentine - 32.45%
33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31%
48) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus vs (7) Sephiroth - 38.34%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

27/50

~*ST*~
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/27/2006 9:47:23 AM | Message Detail
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
21) Summer 2005 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17%
25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96% (not Mario over Crono, but Mario winning)
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17% (not over Vincent, but Crono winning)
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

16/50 - I take risks just all of the wrong ones.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/27/2006 9:48:39 AM | Message Detail
make that 15/50

scratch 21) Summer 2005 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17%
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/27/2006 9:51:49 AM | Message Detail
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
43) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (5) Ryu vs (4) Dante - 37.54%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

23. Whee, I suck.
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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 276
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 1/27/2006 9:58:46 AM | Message Detail
5) Summer 2002 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Link - 12.77%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
22) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (3) Duke Nukem - 28.78%
24) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (2) Link vs (7) Sephiroth - 30.63%
25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
31) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (1) Sonic vs (5) Samus - 31.75%
33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
34) Summer 2002 - East Round 3 - (1) Lara Croft vs (5) Crono - 33.05%
35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
48) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus vs (7) Sephiroth - 38.34%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

25/50...not great at all.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/27/2006 11:00:23 AM | Message Detail
I started entering in SC2K4, and I'm still too lazy to say which ones I got right. <3

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/27/2006 11:09:32 AM | Message Detail
I r winnar? lolz.

Though if you give a bit to those who weren't here for the first contest (you can't give much since that was simply the hardest to predict overall) I'm not doing that great.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/27/2006 11:31:28 AM | Message Detail
Chichiri's right; even looking back, I can only imagine me getting three matches from 2k2 right.....

24) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (2) Link vs (7) Sephiroth - 30.63%
25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96%
35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/27/2006 12:18:36 PM | Message Detail
2) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft vs (2) SSBM - 7.16%
4) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent vs (2) Squall - 12.47%
10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
23) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison vs (2) Diablo - 30.13%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
43) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (5) Ryu vs (4) Dante - 37.54%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

26/39 not including 2k2. Should have been higher but I chose Tommy V. over Mega Man in 2k3 out of defiance over Mega Man losing to Sephiroth the year before. I knew Mega Man would get to Sephiroth, but I didn't think I had a chance of winning anyways, so I decided to make a statement.

I didn't make a 2k2 bracket in time, but if it were in time, these are the matches I would have gotten right:

5) Summer 2002 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Link - 12.77%

This was the final I would have had. I took Link to win the whole thing since I considered Ocarina of Time to be the most popular game of all time at the time. I definitely felt that Link was more popular than Mario on here. I felt people were voting for Mario because they felt he "should" win, not that they actually liked him. Plus I'm a Link fan.

24) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (2) Link vs (7) Sephiroth - 30.63%

I would have had Link over Mega Man. Still would have gotten the points.

25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96%

Had Mario getting to the Finals.

32) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (6) Bomberman vs (3) Jill Valentine - 32.45%

34) Summer 2002 - East Round 3 - (1) Lara Croft vs (5) Crono - 33.05%

I had zero faith in Lara Croft. I felt she got her seeding pretty much by being the PC 32-bit era icon, similar to how Pac-Man got a 1-seed. I knew it wasn't because of popularity.

35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%

No brainer...

So I would have had 32/50. Not bad... although I still can't seem to win a prize. =(
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From: SephirothG | Posted: 1/27/2006 1:11:13 PM | Message Detail
*Yes* 1) Summer 2003 - Finals - (1) Cloud vs (2) Sephiroth - 6.04%
*No*2) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft vs (2) SSBM - 7.16%
*No*3) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (16) Starcraft vs (5) The Wind Waker - 7.91%
*Yes*4) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent vs (2) Squall - 12.47%
*N/A*5) Summer 2002 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Link - 12.77%
*Yes*6) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 13.37%
*No*7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
*N/A*8) Summer 2002 - East Round 4 - (5) Crono vs (2) Solid Snake - 14.63%
*No*9) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 3 - (1) Kefka vs (7) Diablo - 14.76%
*No*10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83%
*No*11) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (16) Starcraft vs (9) Kingdom Hearts - 15.62%
*N/A*12) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (1) Pac Man vs (5) Scorpion - 17.33%
*Yes*13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
*Yes*14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
*Yes*15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
*No*16) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo vs (16) Starcraft - 24.09%
*Yes*17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
*Yes*18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
*Yes*19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
*Yes*20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
*No*21) Summer 2005 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17%
*N/A*22) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (3) Duke Nukem - 28.78%
*No*23) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison vs (2) Diablo - 30.13%
*N/A*24) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (2) Link vs (7) Sephiroth - 30.63%
*N/A*25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96%
*Yes*26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
*Yes*27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
*Yes*28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
*Yes*29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
*No*30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
*N/A*31) Summer 2002 - West Round 3 - (1) Sonic vs (5) Samus - 31.75%
*N/A*32) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (6) Bomberman vs (3) Jill Valentine - 32.45%
*Yes*33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
*N/A*34) Summer 2002 - East Round 3 - (1) Lara Croft vs (5) Crono - 33.05%
*N/A*35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%
*Yes*36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
*Yes*37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
*No*38) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus vs (6) Knuckles - 35.08%
*Yes*39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
*Yes*40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
*No*41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
*No*42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39%
*Yes*43) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (5) Ryu vs (4) Dante - 37.54%
*No*44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
*Yes*45) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (6) Squall vs (3) Luigi - 38.1%
*Yes*46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
*No*47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31%
*N/A*48) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus vs (7) Sephiroth - 38.34%
*No*49) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Revolver Ocelot vs (7) Pac-Man - 38.36%
*Yes*50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

23/39

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 1/27/2006 1:35:21 PM | Message Detail
Here are the contests I remember clearly:

10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
16) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo vs (16) Starcraft - 24.09%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
23) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison vs (2) Diablo - 30.13%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

18/29 - I would have had two more if I'd gotten LttP/CT right - I knew that match would be a tossup, and I was right, but I picked it wrong.

I also had a bracket in 2003, and I think I got these matches right, but I can't remember for sure:

7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
43) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (5) Ryu vs (4) Dante - 37.54%

25/38 total.

I'm pretty sure I had these - back in the first contest, I thought Sephiroth would be the most popular, and when I made my bracket in 2k3 I knew that he had only lost to Link. So I'm pretty sure I picked him to beat Mario and Mega Man. I had no respect for Ganondorf whatsoever, so I thought Magus would steamroll him (actually, I probably thought Tidus would steamroll him before losing to Magus). Ryu vs Dante seemed utterly obvious to me, I was surprised to learn that one was debated. And Aeris/Sonic was obvious.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/27/2006 7:47:12 PM | Message Detail
All pre-existing bios are fully updated, and all Spring 2005 characters now have bios.

That leaves Summer 2002, Summer 2003 and Summer 2005 to go. I can get that done in two months :)

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From: Lopen | Posted: 1/27/2006 8:14:44 PM | Message Detail
Let's see how well I did... assuming I remember properly and didn't screw any up... (I had to go to SC2K5.com to look at 2k2 and 2k3 to help me remember my entries)

6) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 13.37%
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
12) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (1) Pac Man vs (5) Scorpion - 17.33%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56%
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
21) Summer 2005 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17%
22) Summer 2002 - North Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (3) Duke Nukem - 28.78%
24) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (2) Link vs (7) Sephiroth - 30.63%
25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
34) Summer 2002 - East Round 3 - (1) Lara Croft vs (5) Crono - 33.05%
35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
43) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (5) Ryu vs (4) Dante - 37.54%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
45) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (6) Squall vs (3) Luigi - 38.1%
48) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus vs (7) Sephiroth - 38.34%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

25/50. Unfortunately, that looks better than it is. Alot of those matches I missed were from really bad errors. Sonic vs Samus 2002? I had Ryu > Tidus. Sonic vs Aeris 2003? I had Ken offing Sonic in round 1 (though I did have Aeris > Ken). Me underestimating Sonic and overestimating Street Fighter bit me in the ass twice before I learned. Heh heh.
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From: Radix | Posted: 1/27/2006 8:36:36 PM | Message Detail
2) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 4 - (16) Starcraft vs (2) SSBM - 7.16% No
3) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (16) Starcraft vs (5) The Wind Waker - 7.91%No
4) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent vs (2) Squall - 12.47% No
9) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 3 - (1) Kefka vs (7) Diablo - 14.76% No
10) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 3 - (3) Final Fantasy X vs (2) SSBM - 14.83% Yes
11) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (16) Starcraft vs (9) Kingdom Hearts - 15.62% No
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03% Yes
15) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief - 22.56% Yes
16) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 1 - (1) Halo vs (16) Starcraft - 24.09% No
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49% Yes
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63% Yes
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14% Yes
21) Summer 2005 - Finals - (1) Mario vs (2) Crono - 26.17% No
23) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison vs (2) Diablo - 30.13% No
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17% Yes
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25% Yes
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34% Yes
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57% Yes
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34% Yes
38) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 1 - (3) Magus vs (6) Knuckles - 35.08% Heck no at all
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13% Yes
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13% No
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33% No
42) Summer 2004 - Finals - (1) Link vs (1) Cloud - 35.39% Yes
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66% Yes
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18% Yes
47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31% Yes
49) Summer 2005 - 20XX Round 1 - (2) Revolver Ocelot vs (7) Pac-Man - 38.36% No
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42% Yes

17/29, 58%

Not too bad I'd say
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From: Big Bob | Posted: 1/27/2006 8:37:53 PM | Message Detail
A couple of things about that Robotnik page.

First, part of that IS my bio. My name's nowhere on there.

And while you're changing that, here's the REAL quote. (I just played through the game to confirm it)

"Farewell Sonic, my admirable adversary." - Robotnik, shortly after launching Sonic into space and watching his capsule explode

Now, this may be just fanboyism talking, but I think something odd happened between Ganon/Robotnik. Robotnik wouldn't survive in a real contest, for sure, but there's no way he would lose to CATS, or Ansem. Sin's at least a major part of FFX, and Ansem only shows up later on. Robotnik's as recognizable in the gaming world as Sonic is, and I'm willing to bet he would beat Dr. Wily if the two went against each other. Wily's done squat since Mega Man 8, while Robotnik fights to this day. I'd draw the line against Kefka, but there's no way Robotnik's as weak as the stats show.

Yes, I'm somewhat of a fanboy, but I stand by my word. >_>
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/27/2006 10:33:07 PM | Message Detail
From: Big Bob | Posted: 1/27/2006 10:37:53 PM | Message Detail | #061
A couple of things about that Robotnik page.

First, part of that IS my bio. My name's nowhere on there.

And while you're changing that, here's the REAL quote. (I just played through the game to confirm it)

"Farewell Sonic, my admirable adversary." - Robotnik, shortly after launching Sonic into space and watching his capsule explode


I completely forgot to double check my Word file. Sorry about forgetting you :(

Anyway, fixed. Do you like the music I picked?

Now, this may be just fanboyism talking, but I think something odd happened between Ganon/Robotnik. Robotnik wouldn't survive in a real contest, for sure, but there's no way he would lose to CATS, or Ansem. Sin's at least a major part of FFX, and Ansem only shows up later on. Robotnik's as recognizable in the gaming world as Sonic is, and I'm willing to bet he would beat Dr. Wily if the two went against each other. Wily's done squat since Mega Man 8, while Robotnik fights to this day. I'd draw the line against Kefka, but there's no way Robotnik's as weak as the stats show.

I actually agree with this, but only somewhat. Robotnik didn't just disappoint against Ganon; he essentially bombed in three straight matches.

As for being lower than CATS and Ansem, blame Bacondorf underperforming due to Ansem'c pic being that much better.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/27/2006 10:41:02 PM | Message Detail
I don't like to hear people complain about Ganon's pic in Ganon/Ansem; alot of people relate it to Solid's awful sprite pictures...but guess what?

Neither Metal Gear nor Metal Gear 2 are this site's #4 game.

I seriously doubt the picture is to blame for Ansem "over-performing", and if you use 2k3 values for MC/DK/Fisher, Face-CATS lines up with the four-pack fine.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/28/2006 6:26:33 AM | Message Detail
Guru Top Ten Contest ends in 2 hours! This is Slowflake's last chance to let his voice be heard!

...the hell? I never said I'd be involved in this.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/28/2006 10:30:39 AM | Message Detail
I seriously doubt the picture is to blame for Ansem "over-performing", and if you use 2k3 values for MC/DK/Fisher, Face-CATS lines up with the four-pack fine.

But we all know CATS wouldn't beat Robotnik, right? It's just one of those things I chalk up to memory. Since nobody can pinpoint it, there's no need to try to correct it.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 1/28/2006 3:41:21 PM | Message Detail
How close do you think Robotnik/CATS would be?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/28/2006 3:53:08 PM | Message Detail
I figure Dr. Robotnik would win it in a match similar to Ansem/CATS.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 1/28/2006 4:48:48 PM | Message Detail
You know, the more I read old stat topics, the more I want to think of SC2K5 as "The Validation of Solid Snake." Maybe it's bias, but it just seemed like Snake had so many obstacles in his way and so many doubters, and he finally broke through to the Final Four.

Also, it was the contest of "Squall/Knuckles > Magus" 500 posts.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/28/2006 4:49:11 PM | Message Detail
I would give it to Robotnik with 55%

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/28/2006 4:53:23 PM | Message Detail
You know, the more I read old stat topics, the more I want to think of SC2K5 as "The Validation of Solid Snake." Maybe it's bias, but it just seemed like Snake had so many obstacles in his way and so many doubters, and he finally broke through to the Final Four.

Broke through? He was given a path to the Final Four and he nearly lost it to Bowser. Sure it was about validation, but I wouldn't consider Sora and Zelda to be major obstacles for a Noble Niner...
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/28/2006 5:04:43 PM | Message Detail
Given the treatment the remainder of the Dream division received, it's only fair that Bowser give Snake that sort of fight.

In fact, that quarter of the bracket was pretty much Snake and Bowser shooting more and more absurd performances at each other until they met.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/28/2006 5:05:26 PM | Message Detail
People were calling for Snake loses multiple times throughout the contest, and he prove all the doubters wrong with a respectable loss to Mario.

And despite his absolutely terrible pic disadvantage to Bowser, he still came out victorious. It was thought by many to be the year when the Noble 9 would come to a close, Snake kept it going.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/28/2006 5:07:21 PM | Message Detail
In fact, think of it that way: Zero and Snake had a common opponent for the last two years. I'll let you do the math.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/28/2006 5:09:37 PM | Message Detail
Except for the matches before their matchup. People seemed to have disregarded everything that happened before that round. Once Snake opened up that can of whoop ass on Sora, and the following match with Kirby giving Bowser a match, 95% of the topic basically went "lol Bowser has no chance! He won't even outperform Zelda!"
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/28/2006 5:25:22 PM | Message Detail
But Kirby was coming off giving Tidus the ass-kicking of a lifetime. I don't know why people thought that - why would anyone give any credit to Snake beating Sora worse than Samus did, I have only question marks for.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/28/2006 8:58:51 PM | Message Detail
I don't doubt that there was SFF in Snake/Sora, but I'm not going to go all consolefreak trolling style about it. It all depends on how much stock you put into MGS2/3 in terms of their weight upon Snake's strength.

Oh, and Lloyd and Yuri have been bio'd.

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From: swirldude | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:01:37 PM | Message Detail
I don't doubt that there was SFF in Snake/Sora, but I'm not going to go all consolefreak trolling style about it.

Didn't you vehemently disagree with consolefreak?
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:12:08 PM | Message Detail
I don't know about SFF in the traditional sense for that match. I may be the only one in this topic that still thinks that pictures can play a factor. I don't know about you guys, but outside of diehard Sora fans I don't see how anyone who knows anything whatsoever about MGS games could look at that match picture and not vote for Solid Snake...

That pic was even worse than Snake getting his face blasted by Mega Man in 2k4...
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:26:35 PM | Message Detail
I would say that I thought pics played a decent sized role in matches, but then Chichiri would rape me.

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From: Haste2 | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:34:07 PM | Message Detail
I agree with realmnm. Not that the picture is WORSE than Mega Man/Snake, but I do think it has much more of an effect with Snake/Sora than Mega Man/Snake.

But...I often wonder if Snake actually did underperform against Mega Man, even if a small (yet significant) amount? Because...you see, the next year Snake increased, Knuckles increased, and Kefka ended up nearly beating Vercetti. Of course, there's also plenty of evidence that wouldn't suggest that...

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:35:40 PM | Message Detail
Didn't you vehemently disagree with consolefreak?

Only because he was trolling the hell out of the topic, to the point where he was actually trying to drive people out of it. I figured I could just rile him up a little and then go show a mod what he was actually doing. Worked like a charm.

To be honest, I actually agreed with his point. I can't think of anything else that went down in that match, and no way is Alucard that weak.

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:36:53 PM | Message Detail
I think something happened in that much, but I don't know if I want to say it was SFF. I think the pic played a significant role, but I don't think even that could have affected it that much.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:38:03 PM | Message Detail
I love looking at old brackets. Here's one that I made right after the villain contest ended. It's nice to see some matches being more close while others wouldn't be as close.

North

1. Link
16. Chun Li

8. Diablo
9. Tails

5. Alucard
12. Zelda

4. Vivi
13. Princess Peach

6. Dante
11. Kirby

3. Sora
14. Vincent Valentine

7. Sarah Kerrigan
10. Geno

2. Cloud
15. Mewtwo

East

1. Sephiroth
16. Diddy Kong

8. Sub-Zero
9. Scorpion

5. Knuckles
12. Zidane

4. Yoshi
13. Ryu Hayabusa

6. Luigi
11. Donkey Kong

3. Crono
14. Marth

7. Jill
10. Leon S. Kennedy

2. Samus
15. Nightmare

South

1. Mario
16. Meta-Knight

8. Dr. Wily
9. Ridley

5. Kefka
12. Ness

4. Revolver Ocelot
13. Pac-Man

6. Bowser
11. Ryu

3. Squall
14. Master Chief

7. Gordon Freeman
10. CATS

2. Mega Man
15. Falco Lombardi

West

1. Sonic
16. Captain Falcon

8. KOS-MOS
9. Carl Johnson

5. Zero
12. Aeris

4. Magus
13. Bomberman

6. Tidus
11. Auron

3. Frog
14. Tifa

7. Ganondorf
10. Liquid Snake

2. Solid Snake
15. Serge

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From: Haste2 | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:40:04 PM | Message Detail
Well, Squall only managed 35% against Snake. I know there's NO way to measure Squall 2K2 aside from Snake vs. Squall itself, but maybe it's possible that Squall underperformed a bit against Snake, too? =P

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:57:08 PM | Message Detail
I agree with realmnm. Not that the picture is WORSE than Mega Man/Snake, but I do think it has much more of an effect with Snake/Sora than Mega Man/Snake.

But...I often wonder if Snake actually did underperform against Mega Man, even if a small (yet significant) amount? Because...you see, the next year Snake increased, Knuckles increased, and Kefka ended up nearly beating Vercetti. Of course, there's also plenty of evidence that wouldn't suggest that...


Well I meant that Sora/Snake was worse for Sora than Mega Man/Snake was for Snake.

To tell you the truth, I always thought that Snake underperformed against Mega Man in 2k4. But I took the match and ran with it since one, it allowed people to take the focus off of Sonic being the weakest of the Noble Nine due to his bad match with Cloud, two, it made Zero look stronger than Snake, and three, it allowed me to promote my Bowser > Snake bandwagon. Not to mention using it to spite Snake for beating my favorite character 3 years in a row. Yes, those 4 characters are also my top 4 favorite characters. Sue me. <_<

BTW, Mega Man's prediction percentage went from 14.50% to 31.34% of the brackets. If you assume that a good chunk of those bracket-vote, that's a percent or two right there. Factor in face-blasted Snake and a slight drop in popularity (Knuckles DID perform better in 2k4) and you have your possible reasons right there for a Snake underperformance.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/28/2006 9:58:09 PM | Message Detail
Here are some of my thoughts

North

5. Alucard
12. Zelda

4. Vivi
13. Princess Peach

Zelda/Vivi match and we all know how that went.

3. Sora
14. Vincent Valentine

I've never really gave Vincent much credit.

7. Sarah Kerrigan
10. Geno

Ew... the 7th and 8th strongest characters from the Devil Division battling it out. At least it would be interesting.

East

5. Knuckles
12. Zidane

4. Yoshi
13. Ryu Hayabusa

I still think Yoshi/Knux would be interesting.

South

5. Kefka
12. Ness

4. Revolver Ocelot
13. Pac-Man

lol Ocelot/Pac-Man. This could be the closest 4-pack ever.

6. Bowser
11. Ryu

v_v sigh

West

8. KOS-MOS
9. Carl Johnson

I made this so CJ could have an easy win, but he'll have to claw his way to win.

6. Tidus
11. Auron

3. Frog
14. Tifa

7. Ganondorf
10. Liquid Snake

2. Solid Snake
15. Serge

And you thought CJayC gave Snake a hard path.
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From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 1/28/2006 10:23:36 PM | Message Detail
does any one agree wiht me that mega man is going to be even more of a power house this year with the x collection, and two high profile psp games combined with his already classic appeal?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 1/28/2006 10:25:28 PM | Message Detail
I don't see the Mega Man X Collection doing much of anything for Mega Man. If it helped anyone out, I think it would be Zero. I wouldn't imagine the PSP doing anything of note either.

Mega Man needs something other than just collections to give him a boost of note, I think.

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From: Big Bob | Posted: 1/28/2006 10:31:03 PM | Message Detail
Good job on Robotnik's music. Brings back memories.

Actually, I don't doubt that Zero and Mega Man will get stronger this year thanks to MMXC. If you remember, MM beat Snake harder after it came out, Zero went out with dignity, and Protoman even made the field (he SO needs another shot).
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/28/2006 10:58:44 PM | Message Detail
North

1. Link
8. Diablo
12. Zelda
13. Princess Peach
6. Dante
14. Vincent Valentine
10. Geno
2. Cloud

1.Link
12. Zelda
14. Vincent
2. Cloud

1. Link
2. Cloud

1. Link

East

1. Sephiroth
8. Sub-Zero
5. Knuckles
4. Yoshi
6. Luigi
3. Crono
7. Jill
2. Samus

1. Sephiroth
5. Knuckles
3. Crono
2. Samus

1. Sephiroth
2. Samus

1. Sephiroth

South

1. Mario
9. Ridley
5. Kefka
13. Pac-Man
6. Bowser
3. Squall
7. Gordon Freeman
2. Mega Man

1. Mario
13. Pac-Man
6. Bowser
2. Mega Man

1. Mario
2. Mega Man

1. Mario

West

1. Sonic
8. KOS-MOS
5. Zero
4. Magus
11. Auron
14. Tifa
7. Ganondorf
2. Solid Snake

1. Sonic
5. Zero
14. Tifa
2. Solid Snake

1. Sonic
2. Solid Snake

1. Sonic

1. Link
1. Mario

1. Link

Nothing overly difficult for me in picking that bracket. I may be wrong in some picks, but I'm fairly confident.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 1/28/2006 11:13:32 PM | Message Detail
North
1. Link
8. Diablo

12. Zelda
13. Princess Peach

11. Kirby
14. Vincent Valentine

10. Geno
2. Cloud

East
1. Sephiroth
8. Sub-Zero

5. Knuckles
4. Yoshi

6. Luigi
3. Crono

10. Leon S. Kennedy
2. Samus

South
1. Mario
9. Ridley

12. Ness
13. Pac-Man

6. Bowser
3. Squall

7. Gordon Freeman
2. Mega Man

West
1. Sonic (Falcon against Sonic? That's mean.)
8. KOS-MOS

5. Zero
4. Magus

11. Auron
14. Tifa

7. Ganondorf
2. Solid Snake

Second Round

North

1. Link
12. Zelda

14. Vincent Valentine
2. Cloud

East
1. Sephiroth
5. Knuckles

3. Crono
2. Samus

South
1. Mario
12. Ness

6. Bowser
2. Mega Man

West
1. Sonic
5. Zero

11. Auron
7. Ganondorf

Third Round

North

1. Link
2. Cloud

East
1. Sephiroth
2. Samus

South
1. Mario
2. Mega Man

West
1. Sonic
7. Ganondorf

Fourth Round
1. Link
1. Sephiroth

1. Mario
7. Ganondorf

Fifth Round
1. Link
1. Mario

Winner
1. Link

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 1/29/2006 12:34:38 AM | Message Detail
Mega Man needs something other than just collections to give him a boost of note, I think.

Mega Man needs to appear in KH2 and SSBO. Then maybe he'd be ready to take another shot at Sephiroth. =)
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/29/2006 12:36:19 AM | Message Detail
"I would say that I thought pics played a decent sized role in matches, but then Chichiri would rape me."

You think you'd get off that easily?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/29/2006 12:37:18 AM | Message Detail
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 1/29/2006 12:25:28 AM | Message Detail | #089
I don't see the Mega Man X Collection doing much of anything for Mega Man. If it helped anyone out, I think it would be Zero. I wouldn't imagine the PSP doing anything of note either.

Mega Man needs something other than just collections to give him a boost of note, I think.


That tune was sooooo different a year and a half ago.

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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 1/29/2006 12:41:55 AM | Message Detail
That's because Mega Man did worse against Link than the guy who lost to Knuckles, despite beating the man who beat Knuckles for three years twice.

>_>
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 1/29/2006 12:46:37 AM | Message Detail
That tune was sooooo different a year and a half ago.

We learn from our mistakes. <<

(Watch as Mega Man now becomes capable of giving Sephiroth a match!)

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:01:55 AM | Message Detail
North

1. Link
8. Diablo
12. Zelda
4. Vivi
11. Kirby
14. Vincent Valentine
10. Geno
2. Cloud

East

1. Sephiroth
8. Sub-Zero
5. Knuckles
4. Yoshi
6. Luigi
3. Crono
10. Leon S. Kennedy
2. Samus

South

1. Mario
8. Dr. Wily
12. Ness
13. Pac-Man
6. Bowser
3. Squall
7. Gordon Freeman
2. Mega Man

West

1. Sonic
8. KOS-MOS
5. Zero
4. Magus
11. Auron
14. Tifa
7. Ganondorf
2. Solid Snake

North

1. Link
12. Zelda
14. Vincent Valentine
2. Cloud

East

1. Sephiroth
4. Yoshi
3. Crono
2. Samus

South

1. Mario
12. Ness
3. Squall
2. Mega Man

West

1. Sonic
5. Zero
14. Tifa
2. Solid Snake

North

1. Link
2. Cloud

East

1. Sephiroth
2. Samus

South

1. Mario
2. Mega Man

West

1. Sonic
2. Solid Snake


1. Link
1. Sephiroth
1. Mario
1. Sonic


1. Link
1. Mario

1. Link

Good bracket. There are one or two Nintendo/Square matches where it's really a judgement call (Bowser/Squall being the big one), but KH2 hype is pulling me slightly in Square's direction this year. I have the Final 4 occupied by all the 1 seeds, so no surprises there. My biggest disappointment with this particular bracket is the placement of Marth and Captain Falcon. They should be given an opportunity to prove themselves, not be fed to the Noble 9 at the start.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:10:45 AM | Message Detail
It's a waste for chun to be a 16, if you want uber fodder there are better places to look.

Diablo/Tails has potential

Alucard/Zelda, not so much. ANd is there a reason we want a Zelda vs. Vivi rematch?

Dante/Kirby would send the board into fits. First the OMG, roffle my waffle sort and then OMG, this is the hardest match evar sort.

Sora/Vincent has potential, but I don't wnat to see what Cloud would do to either of them

Both are wasted slots, though Geno less so. I've been tellign you people Kerrigan was a waste for a couple years now, when will you learn?

Cloud in the same division as Link? Why not just have another ToC? It'd be half as lame and twice as effective.

East

New characters should not be in auto-lose slots. They are there to throw our math off, not to fill holes when you need someone to lose to Sephiroth. Also, see the above statement about Cloud and Link? Now you've gone double lame.

Subby should fight his own fights, if he is legitimately stronger than Scorp he'll prove it, otherwise we can assume the limit of MK is fairly low.

Zidane FTW? Maybe not, but he may prove to be closer to Magus than most think.

Everything else is boring 'til Crono/Samus. You wasted every noob on unwinnable matches and you threw together pathetically easy matched between multi-year competitors. Yay for brackets not made by you, I guess.

South

It's-a me, making the finals again even if-a I don't deserve it! Oh, and way to waste Meta Knight. I don't care for the character, but I wanted to point out you're wasting all of the newbs (minus subby) on matches they couldn't possibly win.

What a waste of two slots. Two villains contest losers with nothing to prove.

Kefka/Ness has potential. Rematches between Ocelot and Pac Man and Kefa and Pac Man do not.

And why must we see Bowser/Ryu AGAIN? It JUST happened.

Master Chief a 14 seed? Sure, after Goku, Wolverine, Mr. T and Jesus Christ take the 1 seeds.

Ugh, such a stupid match, and CATS will never get seeded higher than 16.

Falco, meet wasted potential (aka this bracket)

West

Whoa my god, Sonic will probably blow his shot at Mario again somewhow.

CJ is a waste, KOS probably is too at this point.

Should be a round 3 match, the likes of Aeris and Zero. rd 2 at worst.

OMG, Bomberman upsets Magus! :p Oh, and who ever wins the previous match has a bye in round 2, basically. Magus vs. Zero or Aeris was a good idea like, 2 years ago. Not so much anymore.

Tidus/Auron may be passable. Winner proabbly gets beaten soundly by Tifa.

Tifa wins. Wow. Why are we bringing Frog back when we know his potential is actually severely limited?

Ganon vs. Snake was a good idea befor ethe last contest. Like a number of others in your bracket, that's not the case anymore. Were you not here for the last contest of something?

Well, at least Serge isn't SFF'd out... unless Squall was in 2k2 (and Sora last year, maybe), in which case Serge is SFF'd out and we have no idea how he stands.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:12:34 AM | Message Detail
Here's one that I made right after the villain contest ended.
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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 276
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:15:03 AM | Message Detail
ChichiriMuyo, you silly guy.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:21:36 AM | Message Detail
Matches I'd have to think about for more than 5 seconds....

North

8. Diablo
9. Tails

3. Sora
14. Vincent Valentine

Kirby vs. Sora/Vincent

1. Link
2. Cloud


East

8. Sub-Zero
9. Scorpion

5. Knuckles
4. Yoshi

3. Crono
2. Samus

South

5. Kefka
12. Ness

Bowser vs. Squall

West

5. Zero
12. Aeris


6. Tidus
11. Auron

Tifa/Auron/Tidus

1. Sonic
2. Solid Snake

And that's all folks, the final four is unbelievably predictable. Link/Cloud smashes Sephiroth, Mario beats Sonic (small chance of that being snake) and Link/Cloud smashed Mario worse than Sephiroth. The entire contest hinges on 13 matchs. The end.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:24:40 AM | Message Detail
Well, *shrugs* if good old char knew it has absolutely 0 relevance now why bother? That said, I still think he wastes the potential of almost every single newcommer in the whole thing, which is something I cannot abide. the majority of those comments still stand, other than "WTF, rematch?" showing up what, 3-4 times?
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:26:50 AM | Message Detail
The only way to have a Final 4 that isn't "unbelievably predictable" right now is with potential Crono/Samus and Sonic/Snake matches, both of which that bracket includes. I guess you could do Mega Man/Sonic, but we saw that LAST YEAR!
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:32:52 AM | Message Detail
And I think you could justify setting one of those up to be a final four match. While I believe Link/Cloud is deserving of a finals match (since they are, you know, the two strongest) I'd rather see them as a final 4 match than an elite 8 match. That's just a friggin slap in the face. Then again, I'd sacrifice the fianl 4 if the rest of it made some god damn sense (this being a fan-bracket I expect real difficulty, which is pretty well lacking from the above sc2k5 excluded).
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From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:35:19 AM | Message Detail
vivi post kh2 vs current zelda. would the match be different?
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:37:34 AM | Message Detail
The percent would be, but not the result.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/29/2006 1:40:52 AM | Message Detail
Pretty much as Janus said. I mean, last year I didn't even give Vivi a chance agaisnt Zelda and I love the guy. After she exceeded MY expectations on the matter can anyone really expect Vivi to overturn that result?
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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 1/29/2006 6:46:27 AM | Message Detail
Ulit... about the write up. Why is the font size sporadic?

Also, that picture him him poor quality. The Shadow Hearts CGI was not the best representation of him. A covenant pic would be better.

I love the Rasputin quote.


KB
From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/29/2006 7:07:54 AM | Message Detail
I guess you could do Mega Man/Sonic, but we saw that LAST YEAR!

And what tells you it'd go the same way?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/29/2006 7:43:23 AM | Message Detail
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 1/29/2006 8:46:27 AM | Message Detail | #109
Ulit... about the write up. Why is the font size sporadic?


Freewebs can be ass with fonts, especially when copied from Word. I'll try fixing it the best I can.

Also, that picture him him poor quality. The Shadow Hearts CGI was not the best representation of him. A covenant pic would be better.

You'd have to find a pic for me. I looked on Google and saw very little.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/29/2006 7:44:01 AM | Message Detail
And what tells you it'd go the same way?

Bracket voting. How many rematches go the other way?

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/29/2006 7:56:02 AM | Message Detail
The last two Mario/Cronos.

Then again, it was the only rematch where the first one was close to begin with. You're comparing this with the Megaman/Snakes and Snake/Knuckles of the world.
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From: cyko | Posted: 1/29/2006 7:57:36 AM | Message Detail
4) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 3 - (5) Vincent vs (2) Squall - 12.47%
7) Summer 2003 - West Round 4 - (1) Solid Snake vs (2) Mega Man - 14.53%
9) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 3 - (1) Kefka vs (7) Diablo - 14.76%
13) Summer 2003 - Final Four - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man - 21.73%
14) Spring 2004 - Division 128 Round 2 - (7) Vice City vs (2) SSBM - 22.03%
17) Summer 2003 - North Round 2 - (12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus - 24.25%
18) Summer 2005 - Final Four - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man - 24.49%
19) Spring 2004 - Final Four - (1) Super Mario Brothers 3 vs (1) Chrono Trigger - 24.63%
20) Summer 2005 - Devil Round 2 - (1) Dante vs (5) Vincent - 25.14%
23) Spring 2005 - Ruin Round 2 - (6) M. Bison vs (2) Diablo - 30.13%
25) Summer 2002 - Final Four - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono - 30.96%
26) Summer 2003 - West Round 3 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (2) Mega Man - 31.11%
27) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (2) Crono vs (5) Vincent - 31.17%
28) Summer 2005 - Quarterfinals - (1) Sonic vs (1) Mega Man - 31.25%
29) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 4 - (1) Mega Man vs (2) Solid Snake - 31.34%
30) Summer 2004 - 20XX Round 2 - (5) Tommy Vercetti vs (4) Zero - 31.57%
32) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (6) Bomberman vs (3) Jill Valentine - 32.45%
33) Summer 2003 - South Round 4 - (1) Mario vs (2) Sephiroth - 32.76%
35) Summer 2002 - South Round 2 - (5) Scorpion vs (4) Max Payne - 33.62%
36) Summer 2003 - East Round 3 - (11) Aeris vs (2) Sonic - 33.76%
37) Spring 2004 - Division 16 Round 4 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) Link to the Past - 34%
39) Summer 2004 - Midgar Round 1 - (7) Vivi vs (10) Donkey Kong - 35.13%
40) Summer 2005 - Gear Round 2 - (6) Alucard vs (2) Sora - 35.13%
41) Spring 2005 - Triforce Round 2 - (3) Dr. Robotnik vs (7) Master Hand - 35.33%
43) Summer 2003 - West Round 2 - (5) Ryu vs (4) Dante - 37.54%
44) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 1 - (3) Kefka vs (6) Tommy Vercetti - 37.66%
46) Summer 2005 - Dream Round 3 - (1) Kirby vs (3) Bowser - 38.18%
47) Summer 2004 - Hyrule Round 3 - (3) Crono vs (2) Mario - 38.31%
48) Summer 2002 - West Round 4 - (5) Samus vs (7) Sephiroth - 38.34%
50) Summer 2005 - Flood Round 3 - (1) Master Chief vs (2) Crono - 38.42%

30/50 not too shabby, i guess.

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From: cyko | Posted: 1/29/2006 8:00:26 AM | Message Detail
Alot of those matches I missed were from really bad errors. Sonic vs Samus 2002? I had Ryu > Tidus.

XD

that's okay. i had Tidus > Ryu. i figured that Final Fantasy was completely unstoppable on this site, except against Mario. *shrugs* boy, did i have a lot to learn.

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Jman_gamerX8 - i had no idea who this guy was until he whomped us all in the Guru Contest.
From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/29/2006 9:03:45 AM | Message Detail
I'm saddened at the lack of faith in Peach. You guys really think there is that much of a gap between Peach and Zelda? Remember Zelda gave Vivi a 60-40 beatdown...
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 1/29/2006 9:35:13 AM | Message Detail
I don't doubt that there was SFF in Snake/Sora, but I'm not going to go all consolefreak trolling style about it.

Only because he was trolling the hell out of the topic, to the point where he was actually trying to drive people out of it. I figured I could just rile him up a little and then go show a mod what he was actually doing. Worked like a charm.


Seriously, I never trolled about it. And I don't recall ever getting mod back then either.

Also, drive people out of it? Why would I want to do that? If I recall correctly, I went sarcastic on KH once. Maybe you missed that.


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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 1/29/2006 10:02:22 AM | Message Detail
And what tells you it'd go the same way?

Nothing; it was sarcasm. =P
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/29/2006 10:16:38 AM | Message Detail
Good.

The bracket vote point doesn't work that well anyway, what with the ridiculously low prediction percentages even during the FOURTH contest.

Bold prediction: If Master Chief fought Megaman, MC would have more brackets. Heck, he came really close to Crono.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/29/2006 10:20:15 AM | Message Detail
This goes to show you that brackets made before a contest look really weird. I've had my share of good laughs by looking at brackets made years ago.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 1/29/2006 10:20:25 AM | Message Detail
You guys really think there is that much of a gap between Peach and Zelda? Remember Zelda gave Vivi a 60-40 beatdown...

I can see why people like Zelda, but I don't understand why anyone would like Peach.

I would pick DK over Peach, and Vivi won over him..

But what do I know?
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/29/2006 10:46:40 AM | Message Detail
I can see why people like Zelda, but I don't understand why anyone would like Peach.

Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Super Mario Kart series, Super Mario RPG, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Super Princess Peach...

She isn't just simply the damsel in distress. She may not be the series namesake, but she plays a more active role than Zelda.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/29/2006 10:47:18 AM | Message Detail
You also said I had no newcomer with a chance at winning. Don't forget at the time Chun Li, Vincent Valentine, Sarah Kerrigan, Geno, Zidane, Leon S. Kennedy, Carl Johnson and Tifa had never been in a contest, but all except Chun Li and Zidane had a chance at winning.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 1/29/2006 6:36:20 PM | Message Detail
Princess Peach wouldn't be a failure, and it can't hurt that she has her own game coming out soon. She'd have decent strength, she's certainly worth seeing.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 1/29/2006 6:40:29 PM | Message Detail
that's okay. i had Tidus > Ryu. i figured that Final Fantasy was completely unstoppable on this site, except against Mario. *shrugs* boy, did i have a lot to learn.

You know what was sad for me? I thought Mario > Sonic > Crash, but I thought they were all close together...yes, I thought Crash wasn't much weaker than Sonic. Then, when I saw Sephiroth beat Crash like he did...I was like...O____O.

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From: Big Bob | Posted: 1/29/2006 8:45:36 PM | Message Detail
I'm a bit baffled as to how Crash is so weak. He's part of the reason Sony pulled ahead of Nintendo, yet he couldn't get 70% on Ulala?
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/29/2006 8:54:18 PM | Message Detail
there was a lot more to Sony's dominance than Crash. In fact I'd have to say he played the smallest role and gets rememered because he was just around at the rigth time. Think X-Pac. Twisted Metal, FF7, Tomb Raider, and RE all played bigger parts in the early years of the PS1.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/29/2006 9:00:35 PM | Message Detail
I think when predicting I thought Crash would be the third or fourth strongest in the division behind Sonic and Sephiroth (and maybe Mega Man). As for rankings I think this is how I had it.

Sonic
Sephiroth
Crash
Mega Man
Tidus
Samus
Ryu
Ken
Ms. Pac-Man
Claire

The rest is a little fuzzy
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From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 1/29/2006 9:04:21 PM | Message Detail
http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yuri10bo.jpg

Hope this works.


KB
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/29/2006 9:10:53 PM | Message Detail
Why does Yuri look like he has breasts.
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From: voltch | Posted: 1/30/2006 11:47:02 AM | Message Detail
this topic is moving pretty quickly for an off-season thing
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From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:14:29 PM | Message Detail
bump
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:29:34 PM | Message Detail
After giving it some thought, I really want Solid Snake to face off against either Cloud or Sephiroth this year. His past performances against Squall and Sora indicate that, aside from the FFVII crew, he is possibly viewed as Mr. Playstation. As the only lower-tier Noble 9er to have never met Clinkeroth, it's his time to get initiated anyway, but I wouldn't be surprised if Snake overperformed against the FFVII juggernauts, especially Sephiroth.
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From: Quaarma Hunter | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:33:50 PM | Message Detail
I can't think of a bigger Snake fan than...well, me, and I FULLY expect him to underperform in that match. Severely. It's FFVII.
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From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:46:57 PM | Message Detail
^i was abut to post "your not the biggest snake fan, karma hunter is". then i looked at your user name more carefully.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:48:38 PM | Message Detail
He's had one match against a FFVII character. Even though it occurred four long years ago, Snake managed an impressive 56.5% against Aeris. I agree that if anything, he's more likely to get SFF'D and underperform, but I also feel there's a possibility he could surprise some people.
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From: Quaarma Hunter | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:51:04 PM | Message Detail
I actually feel Aeris could have overperformed in that match. It's hard to tell, since she had KH the next year and hasn't been seen since.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:52:06 PM | Message Detail
I think Snake would either overperform significantly, or underperform significantly.

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From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:53:30 PM | Message Detail
withe the actual dvd of advent children coming to america and not just the torrent. i think snake would have a tough time.
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From: Quaarma Hunter | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:53:39 PM | Message Detail
That sentiment I can agree with. I can't see him doing what we would 'expect' him to using pure stats, at any rate.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:54:25 PM | Message Detail
I seriously doubt anyone is going to buy Advent Children unless they're already big fans of FF7.

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From: Quaarma Hunter | Posted: 1/30/2006 12:57:01 PM | Message Detail
You'd be surprised. Two of my roommates have never even touched FFVII, but they're all over Advent Children. Movies are generally more accessible to many people than RPGs, though I don't exactly know if that would have any impact worth mentioning on GameFAQs.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/30/2006 1:07:12 PM | Message Detail
Bold prediction: If Master Chief fought Megaman, MC would have more brackets. Heck, he came really close to Crono.

I don't know about Mega Man...I'll boldly agree with ya, though barely. I guarantee MC would have more bracket-support than Sonic though, for what it's worth.


Think X-Pac.

It's as if my memory went from black-n-white to colorful and 3D. Heh, that's almost exactly what Crash was like.


I actually feel Aeris could have overperformed in that match.

You know what'd be awesome about this? That makes Tina Armstrong that much weaker...and Gordon still lost.




Since Slow made a bold prediction earlier, I'm gonna restate one I made early in the off-season and am sticking with solely for the wild off-chance it might happen:

BOLD PREDICTION: Magus will not return to the contest field this year.
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From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 1/30/2006 1:10:35 PM | Message Detail
i might as well make a predicition as well. With Ninja gaiden black, DOA4, and old school ninja gaiden fans combined ryu will be much stronger this year.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/30/2006 1:10:50 PM | Message Detail
BOLD PREDICTION: This topic will now make a flurry of bold predictions of their own. >_>

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/30/2006 1:11:13 PM | Message Detail
15 seconds late! !

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From: Quaarma Hunter | Posted: 1/30/2006 1:15:13 PM | Message Detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Magus will not return to the contest field this year.

Eh...nah. Magus had enough support to get a 3 seed, I don't think he'll drop out without a cap. Aeris at least had only two 11 seeds to give credence to her snubs.

i might as well make a predicition as well. With Ninja gaiden black, DOA4, and old school ninja gaiden fans combined ryu will be much stronger this year.

Love to think so, but highly doubt it. He's still mainly confined to the XBox, so I think at best he'll be a Master Chief lite with the advantage of being a ninja.

BOLD PREDICTION: This topic will now make a flurry of bold predictions of their own. >_>

OUTRAGEOUS
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From: MyWorldIsZelda | Posted: 1/30/2006 1:17:08 PM | Message Detail
I have some bold predictions up my sleeve...but that's for another time!

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:12:36 PM | Message Detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Magus will not return to the contest field this year.

lol, more like Frog will not return to the contest field this year.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:16:08 PM | Message Detail
BOLD PREDICTION: An FFVIII character not named Squall Leonhart will win a match in SC2K6.

...I hope.
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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 276
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:20:04 PM | Message Detail
OBJECTION!

There is a loophole in that post! Squall went by the name "Leon" in Kingdom Hearts and can thus be used as an example of such when he wins a match!





BOLD PREDICTIONS:
-The Spring 2006 Contest will be a 64 game bracket
-Starcraft will be the most overrated game on said bracket
-Final Fantasy 8 will be the most underrated
-Resident Evil 4 will underperform

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:21:03 PM | Message Detail
Well, I have a feeling this is finally the year another FF8 character steps up, but winning a match is going to require some luck.
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From: voltch | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:21:48 PM | Message Detail
will phoenix wright make the sc2k6 field?
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:22:53 PM | Message Detail
"-Starcraft will be the most overrated game on said bracket
-Final Fantasy 8 will be the most underrated
-Resident Evil 4 will underperform"

None of those are especially bold. Sure, claiming that the next spring contest WILL be a games contest is bold, but none of those things are.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:23:58 PM | Message Detail
"Leon" technically isn't a Final Fantasy VIII character, for what it's worth...

But I was referring to Seifer or Laguna, hopefully. Seriously, they need some love.

And yes, FFVIII needs to be in a games contest, should there be another one.

BOLD PREDICTION #2: Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater would finish top 25 in the stats if it made it.

Bias ahoy!
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From: swirldude | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:24:21 PM | Message Detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Knuckles the Echidna will make the Sweet 16.
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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:24:30 PM | Message Detail
No doubt, he'll be like KoAC last year, a character the board loves and may actually end up overseeding him.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:24:36 PM | Message Detail
-Starcraft will be the most overrated game on said bracket

I can think of seven other games that deserve this more than Starcraft...here's a hint: they're all in Starcraft's eight-pack.
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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 1/30/2006 2:25:21 PM | Message Detail
That was to voltch of course.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:14:17 AM | Message Detail
Phoenix Wright, overseeded? By that you maen actually in the contest, right? He'll be performing like very low end fodder, for better or worse.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:42:13 AM | Message Detail
Full Guru Top Ten results now online! Full stats and commentary can be found in our topic

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=25733170

Well, I'm not going to lie to you... the Slowflake snub was a disappointment. Other than that, however, it was another highly successful Guru Contest, and resulted in a very nice consensus Top Ten. Without further ado, I present


The Top Ten Matches of All Time

10. Ansem over CATS

The #1 shocker of the night! Obviously, we're all CATS fans at heart... and why shouldn't we be? The Day Vote ruined the dream, but for those wanting to relive those magical early hours, you can do so right here:

http://www.thengamer.com/gamefaqs/05Spring/05CatsTopic.html

Featuring what is surely one of the greatest triple same-time posts we've ever seen.

9. MGS over FFT

The first of what will be many victories for the Great Game Contest, as this see-saw battle stakes its claim to history. Who cares if they were only going to be FF7 fodder? It's the principle of the thing, says the Guru!

8. Knuckles over Magus

Wow, seems the Gurus love to see Ulti's heart broken. The largest upset in GameFAQs history takes the cake, perhaps by taking full advantage of its being so fresh in the Guru collective mind.

7. Chrono Trigger over A Link to the Past

The greatest SNES slugfest since Punch Out is nicely rewarded by Board 8's Contest experts... how could such a great battle not have been the very best of Spring 04? Let's see what Division 128 has to say about this.

6. Samus over Sonic

The Original, and Still the Best. Alright, 6th best... still, this is an amazing showing for a poll that I figured less than half our Gurus would have witnessed in person. The Legend lives on...

5. StarCraft over Halo

The world's greatest seeding upset, and one of the most popular polls ever, is propelled into a Top Five finish by our Contest Experts. Did you expect any less from the battle that had all of GameFAQs talking, screaming, and/or rallying like madmen?

4. Mario over Cloud

Knux over Mags you could attribute to CT decline, overestimation, a little of each... but this result? PGC and Sunshine were around, sure, but even with all that aid, you've no choice but to scratch your head at the way this stunner turned out.

3. Frog over Master Chief

The Gurus seem to take great joy in seeing Halo bite the dust, and I don't blame them a bit. The closest poll ever came within 7 votes of going the other way, and within 5 points of finishing as the #2 matchup ever. But instead that distinction went to...

*drum roll*


2. Mario over Crono 2003

The favorite to finish on the top of the heap was defeated in surprising fashion! Still, with so many great options to choose from, there's no shame in finishing with the silver. Especially when the gold was handed to a true classic like...

1. StarCraft over The Wind Waker

What now, Link? He may be three-time Champ of the regular Contest, but in the greatest Contest of them all, he just couldn't seem to get over the hump, being narrowly kept out of the Final Four four nights in a row. Suspicious or not, the Gurus thought that the culmination of SC's miracle run was the very best we've ever been graced with in a Contest setting.


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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:03:52 AM | Message Detail
SC vs WW is overrated.
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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 1/31/2006 6:45:20 AM | Message Detail
Phoenix Wright, overseeded? By that you maen actually in the contest, right? He'll be performing like very low end fodder, for better or worse.

Of course he'll be fodder. But you remember how the board was in love with the King of All Cosmos last year and somehow managed to push him up to a #5. I could see PW landing as high as a #6 if the board loves him as much as I think they do.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 1/31/2006 6:53:07 AM | Message Detail
If Phoenix Wright makes it in.

KoAC > Phoenix Wright.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/31/2006 11:56:51 AM | Message Detail
Wow... that top 10 list is terrible.

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:09:21 PM | Message Detail
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From: TRE Public Account | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:10:07 PM | Message Detail
IsleThang is posting the entire internet:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26119003
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:10:20 PM | Message Detail
I don't know, but I hope he gets banned.

Normally I think the whole moderation sucks, but if there's one thing that pisses me off, it's disruptive posting, and he just continues to do that in every topic on board 8.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:18:02 PM | Message Detail
"and somehow managed to push him up to a #5."

Which would have been around a 10 or 11 seed in any other contest (Once the ToC gets added back in). That's the upper limit for fodder, but certainly not unheard of.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:19:40 PM | Message Detail
YOU HAVE NOW... OFFICIALLY... CROSSED... THE LINE!
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:22:56 PM | Message Detail
http://baumanletters.ytmnd.com/

Seriously though...kinda missing the point of him posting that in here. There's a difference between off-topic posting (which I think most/all of us regulars have done or even initiated before) and being disruptive for the sake of being disruptive.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:23:55 PM | Message Detail
Isle's posts will be deleted soon enough, if you'd just ignore them and go on with regular business it'd be like nothing happened.

Anyway... who has a better shot of makign the contest: Seifer or Laguna? Obv not who would do better, just who has a better chance. I think with the nomination rally topic Laguna isn't too bad off. He should be able to take Peach down.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:31:09 PM | Message Detail
Anyway... who has a better shot of makign the contest: Seifer or Laguna? Obv not who would do better, just who has a better chance. I think with the nomination rally topic Laguna isn't too bad off. He should be able to take Peach down.

I'm pretty sure neither will make it, but yeah. Laguna has a better chance I think.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:32:53 PM | Message Detail
Despite never playing FF8, I'm in favor of seeing them both in...but not at the expense of Captain Falcon or Princess. I know Seifer's in KH2, but I don't think Laguna is...if he's not, I gotta say Seifer. If so, I'll take Laguna's chances of getting in better.
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From: LessThan3Presea | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:38:40 PM | Message Detail
Psh, I say forget Captain Falcon. We're already going to see probably Marth and/or Roy. One new character who draws almost exclusively from SSB is enough.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:41:11 PM | Message Detail
I'd bank on Falcon being stronger than either of them. Or Ness, for that matter.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:41:52 PM | Message Detail
Toad over Roy, Locke over Marth...those are my wishes if I remember the bracket well.
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:46:08 PM | Message Detail
Anyway... who has a better shot of makign the contest: Seifer or Laguna? Obv not who would do better, just who has a better chance.

Seifer. KH2 hype means he may get more casual noms than usual.
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From: LessThan3Presea | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:50:45 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I'd probably put Falcon over Marth or Roy, but I just don't want to see more than one of them.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:54:30 PM | Message Detail
Yeah...what I fear is that we'll get five Nintendo characters, then there be a company cap this year.
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From: LessThan3Presea | Posted: 1/31/2006 12:55:14 PM | Message Detail
What I fear is getting all of these SSBM characters, period, cap or not. I really don't care to see Roy, Marth, and Captain Falcon in the same contest.
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From: MyWorldIsZelda | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:00:09 PM | Message Detail
Psh, I say forget Captain Falcon. We're already going to see probably Marth and/or Roy. One new character who draws almost exclusively from SSB is enough.

Unlike Marth or Roy, Captain Falcon has an entire series dedicated to himself that has sold multiple millions. That said, I would much rather see him than the likes of Marth or Roy who are unknown to the public outside of SSBM.

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From: LessThan3Presea | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:02:29 PM | Message Detail
I only say "Forget Captain Falcon" because he has to face Seifer, whom I would rather see.

Toad would be more interesting than Roy, I think. As for Locke or Marth...Bah, really a no-win, as much as I love the world's greatest treasure hunter.
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From: metoolfan | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:06:15 PM | Message Detail
Post TP Ganon
Post Dirge of Cerebrus Vincent Valentine

Pre MGS4 Solid Snake
Post new Next Gen Game Sonic


Predict
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From: MyWorldIsZelda | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:07:39 PM | Message Detail
Post TP Ganon
Post Dirge of Cerebrus Vincent Valentine


Ganon, easily.

Pre MGS4 Solid Snake
Post new Next Gen Game Sonic


Sonic. He'll have the added benefit of two different next-gen games. One on the PS3/Xbox 360 and one on the Revolution.

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From: metoolfan | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:08:08 PM | Message Detail
I'm taking Ganon over Sonic in a nailbiter.

Sonic vs. Snake is no problem - Sonic would probably beat Snake, but Pre MGS4 and Post Sonic's new game? No chance.

VV gets a big boost from Dirge but can't compete with Ganon's TP-related power.

Ganon just about beats Sonic and dispells the "Noble Nine"
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:10:40 PM | Message Detail
Ganon will never beat Sonic, pre or post TP. Snake is one thing, Sonic is a whole different animal.
From: TRE Public Account | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:11:52 PM | Message Detail
Post TP Ganon
Post Dirge of Cerebrus Vincent Valentine

Ganondorf is already stronger that Vincent. He's likely to get a bigger boost from TP then Vincent for DoC.

Pre MGS4 Solid Snake
Post new Next Gen Game Sonic

Sonic is already likely to beat Solid Snake. With a new game, it shouldn't be any contest.

Post TP Ganon
Post new Next Gen Game Sonic

If TP lives up to the hype, Ganondorf will have a shot at Sonic. It'll be close, but I think Ganondorf might be able to win.
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From: MyWorldIsZelda | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:12:59 PM | Message Detail
To predict it in the next match...

I would take Post TP Ganon over Next-Gen Sonic.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:13:57 PM | Message Detail
Sonic over Ganondorf. I just don't think TP will be quite enough of a difference.
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From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:16:14 PM | Message Detail
Sonic > Ganondorf, now and then.
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From: metoolfan | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:17:08 PM | Message Detail
Slow, take away Sonic's next gen game. Would you still take Sonic?
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:18:50 PM | Message Detail
Likely.
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From: metoolfan | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:26:57 PM | Message Detail
hmm...ok.

How about this...

Post TP Ganon
Post new Next Gen Game Sonic

Pre MGS4 Solid Snake
Post Dirge of Cerebrus Vincent Valentine

I'm just thinking how close VV got to Crono...I think post DoC, he might be capable of beating Snake.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:30:01 PM | Message Detail
I would never take Ganondorf to beat Sonic unless Sonic completely falls off the map, Crash Bandicoot style. I don't care how popular TP is. Sure it may cause people to like Ganondorf more... Just not necessarily more than Sonic. I've said before, it's particularly hard to just to fit into the upper echelon of characters.
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From: voltch | Posted: 1/31/2006 1:43:14 PM | Message Detail
why does snake have to be pre MGS4?
and with all the collection of new metal games like subsistence/MG BD/MGA2/MGS4 i'm sure snake will seal his position in his noble nine. but pre all that snake looks fragile.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 1/31/2006 3:01:07 PM | Message Detail
Sonic > Vincent. I would never take Ganon over Sonic - Diablo as a common opponent makes it clear where they stand. The only way TP could change my opinion on that that is if you play the game as Ganon. Ganon vs Vincent would be close, but I would expect VV to pull it out.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 3:32:43 PM | Message Detail
I would probably take post-TP Ganon over our current Solid Snake...and not a bit higher.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 7:49:17 PM | Message Detail
In fact, on second thought, I definitely would though I wouldn't take Ganon any higher than over Solid. Otherwise though (before TP, after MGS4, etc.), I'm gonna stick with saying it doesn't happen.
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From: MyWorldIsZelda | Posted: 1/31/2006 7:50:04 PM | Message Detail
I would take Post TP Ganon over Sonic's current value, myself.

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From: longbladeofhiko | Posted: 1/31/2006 7:50:40 PM | Message Detail
Who else here thinks Prince of Persia could be a decent mid-carder?
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From: swirldude | Posted: 1/31/2006 7:51:14 PM | Message Detail
Not only do you dislike Phoenix Wright, you think Prince of Persia could be decent.
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From: longbladeofhiko | Posted: 1/31/2006 7:52:01 PM | Message Detail
Ooh, excuse me from having an opinion you disagree with :P
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From: MyWorldIsZelda | Posted: 1/31/2006 7:52:09 PM | Message Detail
...Is there something wrong in thinking the Prince could be decent?

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 8:10:45 PM | Message Detail
Well, like how decent of a performance are ya'll expecting from him? I doubt I'd ever take him higher than KOS-MOS, and I'm thinkin' more along the lines of SFF'd(?)-Zidane than KOS-MOS.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 8:49:13 PM | Message Detail
Guys, I just thought of a possible contest-variation to our usual character-contests in the summer (one that has probably been mentioned before): instead of a bracket of 64, what about a gauntlet of 64 (or, as I would hope, 76 so we could have 75 matches)? Have the Noble Nine be at the very end, fodder matches at the beginning, and very gradually move up from there. We could see all sorts of matches, have fodder characters be in more than one match...and adjusting for SFF could be fun, too, heh. It could also be a nice change of pace, too.

Thoughts?
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From: ShadowOwns | Posted: 1/31/2006 8:53:15 PM | Message Detail
*tags xD*
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 1/31/2006 9:53:01 PM | Message Detail
Guys, I just thought of a possible contest-variation to our usual character-contests in the summer (one that has probably been mentioned before): instead of a bracket of 64, what about a gauntlet of 64 (or, as I would hope, 76 so we could have 75 matches)? Have the Noble Nine be at the very end, fodder matches at the beginning, and very gradually move up from there. We could see all sorts of matches, have fodder characters be in more than one match...and adjusting for SFF could be fun, too, heh. It could also be a nice change of pace, too.

Brilliant idea...until you hit someone like 10-seeded Vincent. If it were done well, though, it could be incredibly awesome.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 1/31/2006 10:27:24 PM | Message Detail
That'd be a time I'd hope CJay used a lil' judgment, heh.

You know what would be fun for such a gauntlet? Have CATS in the first match and then build up the opponents from there. Afterall, CJay never fails to make CATS be the lowest seed in summer contests (besides 2k2, of course). =)
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From: Applekidjosh | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:10:30 AM | Message Detail
How many nominations does it tend to take to get into the contest? I know 2k5 closed pretty early, thus B8ers got more input (lol KoaC) but I'm just wondering about old Jay Solano. I mean, he's got over 120 people saying they'll nominate him... o.o


Also, 60+ for the Midgar Zolom. Wow.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:16:36 AM | Message Detail
If all 120+ actually nominate him, old Jay should be a sure bet.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:29:47 AM | Message Detail
Guys, I just thought of a possible contest-variation to our usual character-contests in the summer (one that has probably been mentioned before): instead of a bracket of 64, what about a gauntlet of 64 (or, as I would hope, 76 so we could have 75 matches)? Have the Noble Nine be at the very end, fodder matches at the beginning, and very gradually move up from there. We could see all sorts of matches, have fodder characters be in more than one match...and adjusting for SFF could be fun, too, heh. It could also be a nice change of pace, too.

Thoughts?


I have to admit, I don't like the idea that much. It's too easy to imagine a situation where one character is in 10+ matches in a row, which would be pretty boring. Plus, the most popular characters would only get to be in one or two matches each.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:18:28 AM | Message Detail
It's too easy to imagine a situation where one character is in 10+ matches in a row, which would be pretty boring.

An understandable fear, but as long as the chain of opponents is a somewhat-accurate gradual rise, it'd be very hard to imagine somebody winning 5+ matches. You wouldn't want it to be exactly right anyways, but with a little bit of care it would be pretty easy to prevent 5+ wins. Besides, let somebody who's probably been SFF'd before (say, Zidane) get into a stretch with three newcomers (for example, PoP --> Mewtwo --> Locke), somebody who's been behind SFF before (Protoman), and somebody that'd be at Zidane's peak or is generally over-rated (Kefka fits both)...and there's gonna be alot of discussion and wrong picks. If nothing else, sometimes half the fun is seeing who's gonna stop somebody (Starcraft, Frog)...and this type of method would most likely see to it that there were no blow-outs, either; you would see more close matches in this contest than probably any other.


Plus, the most popular characters would only get to be in one or two matches each.

The ToC worked fine for many people, and the ones who opposed it went against its concept since it essentially excluded them from the main part of the contest. This gauntlet wouldn't do that; it only places them towards the end because they earned it, but are still in the main contest as much as any other character. Besides, Solid Snake could be a lil' fun with having more than two matches.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:42:04 AM | Message Detail
I agree there are some good points to it, like almost everyone having a chance to win a match. But I don't really have faith in CJayC seeding it correctly - all it takes is one mistake to really mess things up. I wouldn't mind seeing an alternate contest done that way, but I think I prefer the traditional single elimination tournament for the Character Battle. One of the things I like about that style is seeing characters show their stuff in the early rounds, and trying to figure out who has the advantage going into later matches.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 2/1/2006 6:09:54 AM | Message Detail
Eh, it's a decent idea, but I don't think it could be pulled off effectively.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:20:29 AM | Message Detail
I don't dislike Phoenix Wright, I just think it's an average game that gets blown up by this board.

And obviously I think PoP could be a mid-carder, leaning towards the lower end of that scale though.


As for the gauntlet idea, meh, maybe if we got to put the thing together, but I don't really have much faith in Ceej making it so it doesn't get completely ****ed up.

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:43:43 AM | Message Detail
The gauntlet idea could work, but I'd like the new ideas strictly for the spring contests (and if they are a success, perhaps implement them in the summer contest). I even detested the ToC idea (good effort by Cjay though).

The big guys would, again, get the shaft in such a contest (from the fan point of view).
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:45:43 AM | Message Detail
I don't really like the idea of a ToC, but at the same time removing Clinkeroth made the contest much more intresting... at least I thought so.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:50:04 AM | Message Detail
I don't see why people dislike the ToC. It served a multitude or purposes (increased challenge, quited the whiners, still gave Cloud, Link and Seph matches) and, at least for last year, was nothing but beneficial to the contest. That's not to say I would suggest doing it again soon (maybe after we've had another legitimate champion that somehow slugs through Link and Cloud, lol), but I can't see it as bad in any way.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:50:31 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, there's definitely pros and cons to each stance.

I might try to make a test-gauntlet here soon to see what kind of reception it would get.....
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:50:51 AM | Message Detail
That's pretty much my thoughts on the matter, I would just hate to see Mario get added to it.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:53:29 AM | Message Detail
Mario hasn't really been a champion of anything yet though. He won a spot in the ToC, but he wasn't exactly the best of a particular category. Link and Cloud have been overall champs before, and Sephiroth has proven to be champion of the Villains. Mario was champion over the people who were never champions...

...that's a big enough difference for me to not include him in a ToC.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:54:09 AM | Message Detail
Well if Ceej looked at it that way I would like the ToC to remain in place.

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:54:28 AM | Message Detail
The ToC has some fundamental flaws.

Where does it end? Does it remain clinkeroth? That's really gonna piss off their fans after a while. Adding winners each year is even worse though, the main contest bracket would suck shortly.

The other thing I loathed is the unhyped final. It just like, happens (the ToC final, that is). There are no matches leading up to it, there are no comparisons about the finalists to be made.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:54:32 AM | Message Detail
...plus it lets 3 extra characters into the contest, even if they are pretty much guaranteed 1st round loses.

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:56:52 AM | Message Detail
The other thing I loathed is the unhyped final. It just like, happens (the ToC final, that is). There are no matches leading up to it, there are no comparisons about the finalists to be made.

Well that's because Link and Cloud should be on opposite ends of it.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:57:53 AM | Message Detail
...plus it lets 3 extra characters into the contest, even if they are pretty much guaranteed 1st round loses.

Heh, somebody has to lose in the first round anyways...so hey, it happens. Extra characters is good though, I know we agree on this.

Which brings me back the the gauntlet idea.....
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 11:59:07 AM | Message Detail
Also, the one thing I dislike about the ToC is that it more or less guarantees I'll never be able to see a Samus/Seph match. Granted I think Seph would win, but I think Samus could make it more interesting than Mario did. I'm still a firm believer that Samus is stronger than Mario, unless he's going up against a Ninty character.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:00:46 PM | Message Detail
I just can't see any possible way that the gauntlet could be implemented effectively. There's really no way around it. Plus, we would have to sludge through about two weeks straight of fodder matches, which is no fun at all.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:02:05 PM | Message Detail
Well, either two straight weeks of fodder, or a long period of time of an underseeded character putting a hurting on fodder, one of the two.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:02:06 PM | Message Detail
I don't know, Kuja/MH was pretty goddamn fun. >_>

Okay, so that's the exception, but meh, it has potential. It's not like Fodder/Noble 9 matches are all that interesting either.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:02:41 PM | Message Detail
"Where does it end?"

I think pretty much everyone agrees: 2k5

"The other thing I loathed is the unhyped final."

The final was Mario vs. Crono. The ToC matches were bonus matches. they don't need to be hyped because not only are they extra matches but they have the biggest name characters in them.

"Well that's because Link and Cloud should be on opposite ends of it."

Unless you want more bang for your buck, as it were. That set up gave what some people would have considered two hard to predict matches (I remember a lot of people actually took Seph to win it all) instead of 1.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:05:07 PM | Message Detail
Unless you want more bang for your buck, as it were. That set up gave what some people would have considered two hard to predict matches (I remember a lot of people actually took Seph to win it all) instead of 1.

True enough, if Samus had ended up beating Mario, I would have been a lot more excited for Seph/Samus.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:07:29 PM | Message Detail
I agree. Putting Cloud and Link in the first match made the ToC more unpredictable. You were practically asking for the winner of the main bracket to take the beating of a lifetime setting him up against Link or Cloud right away, and we knew Sephy wasn't beating one of them either. Plus, people thought Sephiroth was vulnerable after his lackluster Villains Contest win.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:09:45 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I went back and forth over Seph/05 Winner a few times, granted I thought Samus would get there, and in the end I knew I just wanted someone to beat Seph more than anything else, but still.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:10:32 PM | Message Detail
Fodder, yes, but fodder-versus-fodder matches usually seem to be weird and interesting anyways. Plus, as it was already mentioned, Kuja/MH was pretty awesome. =)
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:11:31 PM | Message Detail
What made it even more awesome was the fact that everyone was castrating me over picking MH.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:46:32 PM | Message Detail
Hey, I know how that felt too, heh. In fact, I think they were trying to recastrate me after awhile...

...heh, besides thinking MH would win (as well as being pretty close on the spread) and Kuja would be a bust, I got practically EVERYTHING else about that match wrong.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/1/2006 12:58:40 PM | Message Detail
I think pretty much everyone agrees: 2k5

Obviously not everyone, because the idea is still being brought up for implementing.

The final was Mario vs. Crono. The ToC matches were bonus matches. they don't need to be hyped because not only are they extra matches but they have the biggest name characters in them.

Like I said, the ToC final, that is.

Anyway, I don't really see it that way. Mario-Crono's hype doesn't come close to Link-Cloud (in a normal contest environment). That final was crap IMO.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:09:34 PM | Message Detail
If it were anything like MvC 1 or 2 you'd be singing a different tune. Oh and, pretty much everyone =/= everyone. Seriously.

BTW, as I was trying to say, the ToC just didn't need hype. It didn't need any building suspense. It was a very small portion of the tournament only devised so as to make the greatest number of people happy with the contest at once as possible. Some people *ahem* will ***** and complain about everything, though.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:12:23 PM | Message Detail
If it were anything like MvC 1 or 2 you'd be singing a different tune. Oh and, pretty much everyone =/= everyone. Seriously.

Pretty much everyone? As far as I'm concerned, there are almost equal pro-people as there are con..


BTW, as I was trying to say, the ToC just didn't need hype. It didn't need any building suspense. It was a very small portion of the tournament only devised so as to make the greatest number of people happy with the contest at once as possible. Some people *ahem* will ***** and complain about everything, though.

How am I complaining? I complemented Cjay on his efforts, I just preferred the regular contest. What the hell is your problem? God.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:17:57 PM | Message Detail
I had only to go as far back as the last sentance of your last post. "That final was crap IMO." Sounds like a complaint to me, especially sicne it was preceeded by a lot of other noise about things you didn't seem to like. I've yet to see a compliment, however, but it may just be my lack of observation. Feel free to bring up any counter-points, if you wish.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:22:09 PM | Message Detail
I had only to go as far back as the last sentance of your last post. "That final was crap IMO." Sounds like a complaint to me, especially sicne it was preceeded by a lot of other noise about things you didn't seem to like. I've yet to see a compliment, however, but it may just be my lack of observation. Feel free to bring up any counter-points, if you wish.

I'm not really complaining, just stating my opinion. I'm certainly not blaming Cjay for anything, I know he was just trying to satisfy everyone.


The gauntlet idea could work, but I'd like the new ideas strictly for the spring contests (and if they are a success, perhaps implement them in the summer contest). I even detested the ToC idea (good effort by Cjay though).

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:23:26 PM | Message Detail
It's in parenthesis, it's invisible.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:24:06 PM | Message Detail
It's in parenthesis, it's invisible.

>_>
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:41:35 PM | Message Detail
(Chichiri is paren-blind)

I was a fan of the ToC, myself, and I hope to see it implemented one more time before the big three are allowed in the main bracket again.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/1/2006 1:44:07 PM | Message Detail
(Dante > Vincent)

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/1/2006 2:27:12 PM | Message Detail
I'd prefer if the ToC were made into a gauntlet itself. Winner vs. Seph -> Cloud -> Link.

That way, you get Link vs. Cloud at the end, and you still get the Champ fighting the weakest of the three.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/1/2006 8:55:51 PM | Message Detail
The problem with another ToC is how do you set it up to work with 4 characters + the new champ. You can't just exclude Mario as he is a champ now (paper or not). Maybe you could do it gauntlet style, sure, but I don't think ceej is going to come up with that. I'm thinking there won't be a ToC in 2k6.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 9:02:01 PM | Message Detail
Maybe you could do it gauntlet style, sure, but I don't think ceej is going to come up with that.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/1/2006 9:11:30 PM | Message Detail
If it happens, you may face crucifixion. I didn't argue the point before because I expected it to be a pipe dream, but I do believe there are enough problems with it to believe if Ceej tried he wouldn't be able to pull it off properly (though I'm not sure we would either).
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 9:23:41 PM | Message Detail
I like to get ideas out, that's all. CJay tries new things with or without our input.
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From: Big Bob | Posted: 2/1/2006 9:26:16 PM | Message Detail
If it were done gauntlet-style, we'd miss out on things such as Sonic's long-deserved foray into the final four, the setup for Kirby vs. Dante, and Knuckles finally getting out of the second round.

I'd prefer the main bracket to be done normally, and the ToC to be gauntlet-style.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 2/1/2006 9:38:05 PM | Message Detail
The biggest negative I see with the gauntlet is that we lose the prediction aspect of the Summer Contest. Even the Oracle would be hurt, since no one would be able to enter a prediction more than one day ahead of time, and so many more would miss a day and then lose interest. And then there's the Guru Contest and the Board Odds Project, both of which would be ruined.

On the plus side, maybe voting would be more "true" without any bracket vote to get in the way?

But then again, you'd have to imagine that by the end of a long run, the winning character would be getting anti-voted to death, for the sake of making the Contest more interesting and creating new matchups. If we thought Seph's Vil underperformance was bad, just wait till we see how he would look at the end of a 10 day fodder run.

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/1/2006 9:41:33 PM | Message Detail
If we have to have a TOC again, I guess I'd like it to be done gauntlet style also. But I would really like to go back to the original system. My basic problem is that Mario doesn't deserve to be in a TOC, but he also doesn't deserve to have the three strongest characters held out so he can win another tournament.

Also, I wouldn't mind the TOC as much if the characters in the TOC got to have exhibition matches. How ridiculous is it that Cloud's record in 2005 was 0-1? Ceej could just take the characters that missed the nominations cut for the main bracket, and have Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth face one at the end of each round as an exhibition match.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/1/2006 9:47:04 PM | Message Detail
...so Clinkeroth just face fodder until the ToC, where they're suddenly amongst champions? Eh...not a big fan of that.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/2/2006 8:46:00 AM | Message Detail
I would hate to see Clinkeroth back into the field of 64, but at the same time I would hate to see Mario go into the ToC. As for Clinkeroth vs. Fodder at the end of the rounds, no thank you.

Also, I don't see why we couldn't make predictions for a gauntlet style contest, sure if you missed one match it could hurt a lot more than in the past, but it's still possible to get back on track.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/2/2006 11:09:34 AM | Message Detail
Honestly, I don't see how you could fairly put Link, Cloud, and Seph in the ToC again and place Mario back in the field. It's like you're acting like SC2K5 didn't happen or didn't count, which I don't believe Ceej would do.

Plus, I don't know if the Link, Cloud, and Sephy fans would want to deal with another year without them. It's obvious that, despite their dominance, they draw in the votes, or perhaps the fact that they draw in the votes facilitates their dominance.

However, the one problem I have with putting the ToC back into the bracket is that it DOES kill some opportunities for some. Vincent and Bowser would not have made the Elite Eight with them in it unless there was just flatout bad seeding.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/2/2006 11:14:54 AM | Message Detail
That's exactly why I like the ToC, it makes for a much better bracket overall, but if you start taking everybody out it becomes ridiculous.

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/2/2006 11:30:28 AM | Message Detail
Well, he could just arbitrarily keep Cloud/Link/Seph out. Whatever works, works. Utilitarianism ftw.

Or, alternatively, you could put them all in the same division. That'd allow for interesting matches, and still keep 'em in the contest. Of course, the rest of the contest would be pretty anticlimactic, but who cares about climaxes anyway?
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From: Lopen | Posted: 2/2/2006 11:32:40 AM | Message Detail
I think the bracket has a quite a few remakes to go before taking everybody out becomes ridiculous. Take Mario out and the bracket is still tough to predict. Of course, leave him in and it's still tough to predict.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/2/2006 11:35:21 AM | Message Detail
I actually don't mind seeing characters get their ass beat by Clinkeroth, just to see how they measure up. As long as there are also plenty of close matches that cost the average bracket user a lot of points, I don't mind having them in it at all.

Hell, even though we all knew Sephy was going to win the Villains contest, it was still great to see Bowser and Ganondorf take large chunks out of him.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/2/2006 11:38:19 AM | Message Detail
I agree. To me there's not much difference between Clinkeroth owning fodder and Mario/Samus/Crono doing so.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/2/2006 11:45:34 AM | Message Detail
Exactly.

Besides, Ceej can still make the bracket interesting with Clinkeroth in it... by introducing handicaps. <_<
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/2/2006 11:49:30 AM | Message Detail
That would be awesomely awesome if there were percentage spreads on the matches...

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/2/2006 12:07:55 PM | Message Detail
Precisely. He can even have percentage spreads as bonus points for all the matches. Or for those that complain that it's not fair since stats people would have an edge, simply have prizes bracketwise and by spreads.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/2/2006 12:13:05 PM | Message Detail
Spreads would be sweet...hell, not even for prizes if he didn't want to; just have it as a bonus side-game if he liked. Post the spread on the front page for the next day's match, click a link, and decide if it's over or under.
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From: Nominate_Tails | Posted: 2/2/2006 12:18:07 PM | Message Detail
Just curious, what is board 8's opinion about having Tails in another contest?
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/2/2006 12:22:02 PM | Message Detail
Spreads would be awful. You'd get an underrated character (say, Tails in 2k4 for an example) beating the spread on a character like Link. No fun. Also, you'd be leaving the spreads up to to ceej, and he'd probably just base them off the brackets with little concern for actual performances (except in the obvious cases). Cloud wouldn't need 50.01% to beat Link, Seph wouldn't be able to win a match with less than 65% unless he faced the two aforementioned, and there would be a lot of undeserving upsets.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/2/2006 12:22:37 PM | Message Detail
Tails should be back. Shadow should not, btw.
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From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 2/2/2006 1:11:27 PM | Message Detail
How about all of the top eight noble niners in one division just to avoid their dominance in the normal bracket?
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 2/2/2006 1:12:12 PM | Message Detail
Shadow should definitely be back, especially with a new game out. Tails I can do without.

A gauntlet could still give us good chances to set up matches - have CATS/Freeman as 64/63, Dante/Kirby next to each other around the 20 mark (doesn't guarantee anything but it gives it the best chance), etc. You'd have the chance to set up a lot of potentially close matches regardless of which individual results happen.

And I got another top 10 listed, but not on the front page unfortunately.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/2/2006 1:14:59 PM | Message Detail
Bring Tails and Shadow both back, I figure. Tails has always been looked down upon contest-wise, and Shadow has reason to come back (though I don't care much for him).
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/2/2006 1:15:18 PM | Message Detail
who cares about climaxes anyway?

Someone hasn't had sex in awhile. Or ever.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/2/2006 1:17:13 PM | Message Detail
"Dante/Kirby"

Heh, I knew this match would still be getting to people. Last year shold have taught you all a lesson, don't underestimate Kirby. He is clearly Nintendo's #4 lead (and it'll really show if they keep the quality of the Kirby games up). It doesn't mean much, but it's enough to put him over the majority of the field. Dante is no longer a match for him.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/2/2006 1:17:55 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and Shadow is lame. We don't need him.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/2/2006 4:00:15 PM | Message Detail
I don't like Shadow, but he needs to come back. He's strong enough to be competitive.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/2/2006 4:00:53 PM | Message Detail
I would still take Dante > Kirby despite last year.

I know nearly no one would agree with me on that, but meh, I don't care.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/2/2006 4:01:50 PM | Message Detail
I'm sure Lopen would side with you. After all, he's still convinced Dante could take Squall.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/2/2006 6:18:07 PM | Message Detail
I honestly believe Dante got SFF'd somewhat in that match, sure DMC/FF7 aren't really that closely related, but the two characters in the match have a similar enough character that I think Dante would perform much better against the likes of someone like Kirby.

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/2/2006 7:46:49 PM | Message Detail
Heh, I knew this match would still be getting to people. Last year shold have taught you all a lesson, don't underestimate Kirby. He is clearly Nintendo's #4 lead (and it'll really show if they keep the quality of the Kirby games up). It doesn't mean much, but it's enough to put him over the majority of the field. Dante is no longer a match for him.

Indeed, even Vincent would be no match for Kirby.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 2/3/2006 2:02:57 AM | Message Detail
No 4? Where were you when Solid Snake proved that Kirby > Samus?

>_>

The 2005 X-stats are reliable until the opposite has been proved.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 9:29:28 AM | Message Detail
Samus is still number 2... as long as she isn't facing a Ninty character.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 9:46:16 AM | Message Detail
Man, why are people so quick to throw SFF on everything...?
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 2/3/2006 9:48:44 AM | Message Detail
Because if a character we like don't do as good as he should then it's obvously SFF >_>

I still don't understand why everyone says that Zero got SFF'D by Mario, but he obviously didn't when he faced Megaman.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 9:50:58 AM | Message Detail
Honestly, other than the "obvious" cases of SFF, the only matches I would bring into question are Snake/Sora and Tifa/Vyse.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 9:54:37 AM | Message Detail
SFF doesn't have to be absolutely massive for it to occur, or have a significant difference.

Take Magus for instance... whether or not you want to call that SFF is up to you, but it's blatantly obvious that he performs quite differently on certain opponents.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 9:56:37 AM | Message Detail
I agree that there are certain outside factors that can come into play, but I think we're sometimes too quick to call one. I honestly doubt there was much swing in a 54/46 match, personally.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 9:58:51 AM | Message Detail
What do the percentages have to do with anything? And no matter what you want to call it, because quite frankly, I don't care what it's called, there will always be anomalies.

One of those being that Dante would perform much better on Kirby than he did on Vincent, so much to the point where he would defeat the pink puff.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:00:34 AM | Message Detail
I've said I would take Kirby over Dante for the last 2 years, and I still stand by it. I don't see a reason for him to overperform.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:01:44 AM | Message Detail
Neither do I, I just see a reason for him underperforming on Vincent.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:03:25 AM | Message Detail
I mean, I could see the point where Dante wouldn't beat Squall or Vincent head-to-head due to intangibles if they were near equals (I argued this in the case of Tidus/Shadow), but I don't believe he really underperformed.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:07:44 AM | Message Detail
But we have no idea if Dante is a near equal with Squall/Vincent thanks to losing to Vincent in what was his first appearance since DMC3. And even then he's only 2.6% lower than Vincent in the stats, 2% to Kirby.

And I for one think Kirby is overrated. I think he performed much better on Bowser than he should have, and that Bowser went on to perform much better on Snake than he should have. (lol pic factor)

So it's more of a combo of the two than Dante being that much stronger, or Kirby being that much weaker.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:09:11 AM | Message Detail
I personally don't believe Kirby overperformed on Bowser. Maybe Bowser overperformed on Snake though.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:10:31 AM | Message Detail
I'll say that I'm much more confident that Bowser overperformed on Snake than Kirby on Bowser, but regardless I think it's enough for Dante to best him.

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From: voltch | Posted: 2/3/2006 2:34:46 PM | Message Detail
doesn't snake always underperform drastically on sprite rounds. i mean he clearly flattened sora in a way i doubt bowser could achieve.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/3/2006 2:43:15 PM | Message Detail
I don't think any of those performances are of the mark. At least not by much.

Face the facts, DMC3 couldn't have been great for Dante anyway. It sold less than DMC2, for god's sake, so it didn't really get his name out there. Fans of the first are probably the people who picked up the 3rd and they were very likely to have voted for Dante anyway.

Bowser really had no reason to over perform on Snake (pic factor is bs) and Kirby had little reson to overperform on Bowser, especially since his previous match with Tidus pointed him in that direction to begin with.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 3:18:29 PM | Message Detail
MGS3 sold worse than those before it and Snake still accumulated a boost. Hell, he wasn't even in the game. I don't see why Dante couldn't get as much if not more from DMC3.

Bowser had plenty of reason to overperform on Snake. That pic made an absolute joke of Snake, and I guarantee you that people who didn't really love either character would pick the one who is portrayed better in the pic. I know you've never been a fan of the pic factor, and this won't change your opinion on it, but it's a very real factor.

As for Kirby overperforming on Bowser, I already said I'm not too sold on it myself, but I think it's a real possibility, and even if there was nothing odd in that match, everything else I believe in is more than enough for me to think Dante could take out Kirby.

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From: Big Bob | Posted: 2/3/2006 3:29:05 PM | Message Detail
I think Kirby overperformed on Bowser, but Bowser didn't overperform on Snake. People who have been keeping up with the contest know that Kirby would have his ass kicked by Bowser, but rode UDF (UnderDog Factor) to a respectable loss. I'd still take him over Dante, especially with Kirby's Gamecube game coming (GC-ers are starved)
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 3:30:34 PM | Message Detail
UDF?

Okay, now people are just making up factors.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/3/2006 6:42:23 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, that's just plain stupid. After Kirby made Tidus his ***** in the fashion that we know, it's no surprise he came this close to Bowser.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/3/2006 7:25:39 PM | Message Detail
The 2K4-2K5 offseason didn't feel this long... I wonder why.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 2/3/2006 7:45:28 PM | Message Detail
I think Bowser was overrated and so was Vincent's division.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/3/2006 7:52:55 PM | Message Detail
Touching on a few things...

MGS3 sold worse than those before it and Snake still accumulated a boost. Hell, he wasn't even in the game. I don't see why Dante couldn't get as much if not more from DMC3.

I've said it before... You don't need to have an actual increase in popularity to get a contest boost. You can get a contest boost simply by giving your fans a reason to come to the site. I think the Nintendo boost is proof of that. MGS3 definitely caused more Solid Snake fans to come to the site, and DMC3 probably had the same effect for Dante.

Bowser had plenty of reason to overperform on Snake. That pic made an absolute joke of Snake, and I guarantee you that people who didn't really love either character would pick the one who is portrayed better in the pic. I know you've never been a fan of the pic factor, and this won't change your opinion on it, but it's a very real factor.

I've been an advocate of this factor for the longest, but the majority of the stats topic disagreed with me. The way you explained it is the exact same way I feel. I think that very situation played a small factor in a number of matches, but I won't get into details.

UDF?

Okay, now people are just making up factors.


I actually touched on this a while back. While it may not be a common things, I think there are certain situations were that took place. With Kirby/Bowser, the reasoning is that many people figured that Bowser would win that match easily, so fans of both decided to give Kirby sympathy votes to Kirby. Other situations of this could be Frog/Solid Snake and Magus/Link. It would take a huge fan favorite for it to mean anything though. And it probably won't account for much... maybe a couple percentage points. But I do believe it may exist in some form. Underdog, bandwagon, call it whatever you want.

As said before though, Kirby proved most of it was legit with the way he pounded Tidus' face in.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 2/3/2006 8:53:32 PM | Message Detail
Maybe Bowser and Ganon on Seph was more "Underdog Factor" than straight anti-voting? It would make sense.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:19:43 PM | Message Detail
I personally don't believe the Devil Division is very overrated, if at all. Squall remains in the same proportion to Samus as he was in 2003, hinting at that debatable Samus/Link SFF. Not to mention, if Squall was at that strength in 2004, Kirby's boost doesn't seem all that out of whack compared to everyone else.

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From: Haste2 | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:43:20 PM | Message Detail
I think Kirby's 48% against Bowser was pretty reasonable. Yoshi received 44% against Bowser, and it's been suggested in 2K3 and 2K4 that Kirby > Yoshi. Plus, Kirby should be increasing in popularity more than other Nintendo characters due to what Kirby has brought this generation.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:45:42 PM | Message Detail
Nor does Luigi look like he boosted like crazy either, by the way.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:51:57 PM | Message Detail
To me, "underdog factor" would be the counter to bracket-voting. A person who normally bracket-votes instead votes for the character they love most, because they believe that the character in their bracket will win easily.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:55:27 PM | Message Detail
Nor does Luigi look like he boosted like crazy either, by the way.

Heh, remember that Luigi/KOS-MOS was predicted to be 54/46 in Luigi's favor in 2K3.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:57:25 PM | Message Detail
Well, that would be a combination of Luigi rising and KOS-MOS dropping. I didn't say Luigi didn't increase at all. It just doesn't look quite as dramatic that way.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/3/2006 10:59:21 PM | Message Detail
Heck, 2004 KOS-MOS beats 2005 KOS-MOS with 56%, for what it's worth.
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From: Yesmar | Posted: 2/4/2006 9:52:33 AM | Message Detail
Squall remains in the same proportion to Samus as he was in 2003, hinting at that debatable Samus/Link SFF

Considering The Boost that all Nintendo characters got, the proportion between the two would most likely not still be the same unless Squall got a similar boost to keep up with her.

On a semi-related note, I think Samus got UDF in her match with Cloud in 2004.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/4/2006 9:56:17 AM | Message Detail
...dude. Samus is strong, but not THAT strong.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/4/2006 10:24:02 AM | Message Detail
I've said it before... You don't need to have an actual increase in popularity to get a contest boost. You can get a contest boost simply by giving your fans a reason to come to the site. I think the Nintendo boost is proof of that. MGS3 definitely caused more Solid Snake fans to come to the site, and DMC3 probably had the same effect for Dante.

I don't disagree, Chichiri was trying to say that DMC3 did next to nothing for Dante.

Squall remains in the same proportion to Samus as he was in 2003, hinting at that debatable Samus/Link SFF

I don't really think the devil division is overrated, but I do think that Samus is underrated, not much, but still a decent sized amount.

I actually touched on this a while back. While it may not be a common things, I think there are certain situations were that took place. With Kirby/Bowser, the reasoning is that many people figured that Bowser would win that match easily, so fans of both decided to give Kirby sympathy votes to Kirby. Other situations of this could be Frog/Solid Snake and Magus/Link. It would take a huge fan favorite for it to mean anything though. And it probably won't account for much... maybe a couple percentage points. But I do believe it may exist in some form. Underdog, bandwagon, call it whatever you want.

I see what you're saying here... and I think it could take place in a few matches, say Bowser & Ganon on Seph, and the like, but I don't think it really occured in Kirby/Bowser. I don't disregard it completely though.



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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/4/2006 10:37:57 AM | Message Detail
Not exactly contest-related, but any and all day vote turnarounds have been beaten to the punch today. When I woke up this morning (8 AM Eastern), the poll was dead even, and just look at it now.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/4/2006 10:43:28 AM | Message Detail
Seriously?

When I woke up (12 Eastern) I thought to myself, "damn I bet the Steelers will have 80% of the vote" and proceeded to vote for them, I really didn't think that many people had poor NFL predicting skills.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/4/2006 12:16:07 PM | Message Detail
That's probably the European vote at work. You know, kinda like how Americans would vote on a Soccer World Cup final.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/4/2006 1:32:40 PM | Message Detail
Considering The Boost that all Nintendo characters got, the proportion between the two would most likely not still be the same unless Squall got a similar boost to keep up with her.

So where do you think Frog stands? Remember, Riku gets closer and closer to Sora (wherever you think he stands) the farther up you adjust him.
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From: Yesmar | Posted: 2/4/2006 4:44:15 PM | Message Detail
So where do you think Frog stands? Remember, Riku gets closer and closer to Sora (wherever you think he stands) the farther up you adjust him.

My personal X-Stats look like this. I didn't adjust Sora or Yoshi.

Sora: 25.55
Frog: 25.37
Chun-Li: 24.79
Yoshi: 24.64
Pac-Man: 24.63
Riku: 24.52

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/4/2006 7:16:16 PM | Message Detail
Jeez. I have Alucard higher than you have Sora.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 2/4/2006 7:18:00 PM | Message Detail
Yoshi: 24.64
Pac-Man: 24.63


Man, talk about major SFF.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 2/4/2006 9:07:15 PM | Message Detail
How high did the Steelers get on today's poll?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/4/2006 11:04:27 PM | Message Detail
Toaster Oven: Final Fantasy 7 [6] - Phoenix Wright [9]
Random Insanity: Final Fantasy 7 [1] - Phoenix Wright [4]
Poll of the Day: Final Fantasy 7 [11] - Phoenix Wright [14]
Current Events: Final Fantasy 7 [9] - Phoenix Wright [10]
Hacked: Final Fantasy 7 [11] - Phoenix Wright [10]
LUE: Final Fantasy 7 [54] - Phoenix Wright [80]
Board 8: Final Fantasy 7 [66] - Phoenix Wright [77]
TOTAL: Final Fantasy 7 [158] - Phoenix Wright [204]



FF7 gets bit by the upset big again.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/4/2006 11:37:34 PM | Message Detail
"I don't disagree, Chichiri was trying to say that DMC3 did next to nothing for Dante."

No I wasn't. I was saying his boost wasn't overly significant. He just doesn't have it in him to tackle Kirby.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/5/2006 1:05:48 AM | Message Detail
I personally don't believe Kirby overperformed on Bowser. Maybe Bowser overperformed on Snake though.

Whereas I feel the opposite about those. Both have their fair arguments though.


So where do you think Frog stands? Remember, Riku gets closer and closer to Sora (wherever you think he stands) the farther up you adjust him.

Judging by my recently-readjusted stats.....

26) Sora 26.09%
37) Frog 21.94%
40) Riku 21.20%
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/6/2006 7:16:01 PM | Message Detail
Sora getting SFFd isn't out of the question, I say.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/6/2006 10:02:03 PM | Message Detail
I'm gonna bring up something I said the other day in my Four-Pack Of Fun board and then build upon it (it's big...so, if you don't know if ya wanna read it or not, it's about Ness/CJ):



If I did the numbers right, adjusting Auron's 2k4 four-pack by Scorpion 2k3, Ness is put at 22.94% on Link 2k4/2k5...or, if you would rather adjust by Tails 2k3, Ness would be at 21.36% on Link 2k4/2k5 (though, if you think Dante under-performed in Sonic/Dante, that means this number should be higher). Those numbers were assumed by many to be about where Ness should be before 2k5. Using those two numbers, that would mean CJ should be at 20.58% or 19.16% (whichever you fancy). Using those value for CJ, that would mean he would get either 48.31% or 44.98% (again, whatever you like). Keep in mind that, should memory serve me right, Vercetti/CJ had a match at IGN last year and it was the closest match of their contest (if not the closest, it was still close), and CJ's game ousted Vercetti's game in the Top 100 List (#11 > #35). From there, many people assumed Ness had gained last year; between The Boost and Jak > CJ by virtue of common opponent, few people would say he didn't gain at least a little bit, surely. The fact that Ness even beat CJ, much less with a solid win, made people open their eyes about Ness. We also saw in the Top 100 List that, on top of the usual love SSBM gets by snagging #6, Earthbound also did well for itself by getting #37...

...but then, why is Ness now considered around Kefka's level (20.82%)? I've often heard that they would have a great match -- many times from myself, heh -- but I recently gave him a match in a four-pack against Ryu Hayabusa (21.76%, assuming no Mario/Zero SFF), and only two people there gave him the win (not including myself since I didn't post my prediction in it). I've thought more on it lately, and it just suddenly seems like it's almost uneducated of us to not give Ness more credit than what we've done. It just feels like we've under-estimated him since the board seems to stand against CJ so much, despite being the huge board favorite in their match.

Did Mario -- in arguably his best year yet -- SFF him too much for people to think Ness is that strong? Are people that quick to discredit CJ for being a less definable character than Vercetti? Is the common consensus that positive that the race card played a part in his sole match that it means Ness only winning by 55.14% is proof he went down when Nintendo in general was impressive last year? I'd like to hear thoughts on this.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/6/2006 10:35:03 PM | Message Detail
The main reason for people discrediting CJ is probably Officer Tenpenny. He was last in the VC, so it's not too far a stretch to assume his counterpart is weak as well.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/6/2006 10:43:43 PM | Message Detail
This is true, but let's not forget that was also the only NPC from GTA we've seen AND I think it was before the Xbox and PC ports of GTA:SA when Liquid/Tenpenny went down. Not to mention Liquid was probably SFF'd by Sephiroth...Tenpenny is still undeniably a weak weak character, but judging by him to CJ probably isn't the way to go about it.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 2/6/2006 10:43:47 PM | Message Detail
*minor GTA: VC spoilers*











Do people really think Sonny, Vercetti's counterpart, would do any better than Officer Tenpenny?
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 2/6/2006 10:51:45 PM | Message Detail
I'm not surprised people are hesitant in picking Ness over Hayabusa; assuming Zero didn't get SFFed, Ness would have to have been SFFed down to ~63% of his base strength (roughly 10% against Mario) - incidentally, Mario beat Zero with 63% who beat Hayabusa with 63%.

Personally, I don't see Ness more than 3% below DK (though I don't trust the Chief).
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/6/2006 10:57:43 PM | Message Detail
Bowser's SFF'd the hell out of Ness before, and Ness was behind Auron/Seph one year too...and yet, you can take either of those UNadjusted values and Mario still safely outdoes expectations in their second-round match. Mario's known as the king of SFF anyways; he's the only character many people will take seriously when you mention rSFF. Even if you don't think Samus > Mario (which I don't), Mario chopped Samus down to size using SFF when Link couldn't SFF her (to be fair, Wind Waker Link...but that's still Link).
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/7/2006 12:51:20 AM | Message Detail
Mario's known as the king of SFF anyways

On a different topic, I'm not sure why Mario gets that title. After what Link did in 2004 (Ganondorf, Yoshi, Mega Man), the SFF crown should be undisputed.
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From: greatone10 | Posted: 2/7/2006 12:54:13 AM | Message Detail
Do people really think Sonny, Vercetti's counterpart, would do any better than Officer Tenpenny?

I hope not, considering Sonny only appeared in person at the beginning and the final mission, whereas Tenpenny played a much bigger role, and had the SJF as well.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 2/7/2006 1:14:07 AM | Message Detail
On a different topic, I'm not sure why Mario gets that title. After what Link did in 2004 (Ganondorf, Yoshi, Mega Man), the SFF crown should be undisputed.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1361

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2122


Now consider the relative strengths of Mario and Link.

MARIO is the SFF King. Link actually ain't as handy with it, Ganondorf aside, because he's so damn strong already (heck, I think it's been said Mega got more SFF on Yoshi than Link).
From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/7/2006 1:41:53 AM | Message Detail
What Mario did against Samus was impressive, but he's never come close to delivering the kind of beatdown Link did on Ganondorf, and he never will. As I see it, Mario's more the king of pulling miracles out of his ass than anything else.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/7/2006 9:31:56 AM | Message Detail
Vercetti/CJ had a match at IGN last year and it was the closest match of their contest (if not the closest, it was still close)

Solid Snake/Naked Snake was by far the closest, heh. So do we think Naked Snake would basically serve as a Solid Snake clone in strength?

I guess I should ask the same thing about Mega Man and X.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/7/2006 9:41:22 AM | Message Detail
What Mario did against Samus was impressive, but he's never come close to delivering the kind of beatdown Link did on Ganondorf, and he never will. As I see it, Mario's more the king of pulling miracles out of his ass than anything else.

Maybe because... *gasp* they're from the same series?

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/7/2006 10:57:25 AM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1753
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/7/2006 11:57:39 AM | Message Detail
Maybe because... *gasp* they're from the same series?

Mac already posted my response. When Mario can do that to someone from his own series (who's proportionally as strong as Ganon), get back to me.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/7/2006 12:04:25 PM | Message Detail
Don't hold the fact that Ganondorf's prime selling point is that he's the main villain of the Zelda series against Mario. He's a leech. Bowser, on the other hand, is not.
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From: Psycho Kensou | Posted: 2/7/2006 12:09:47 PM | Message Detail
True, true. You're far more likely to find a person who likes Bowser than Ganon.
From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/7/2006 12:52:18 PM | Message Detail
I didn't even think this was an argument...
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/7/2006 12:58:04 PM | Message Detail
Plus, the thing is...Link would probably get nearly as much on Ness before SFF as Mario got on him with SFF. At least a tripling, I'd say.

Well, I shouldn't say "nearly" in that case since it takes as much of a difference to jump from a tripling to a quadrupling as it does from a doubling to a tripling, despite the percentage difference.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/7/2006 1:19:47 PM | Message Detail
Don't hold the fact that Ganondorf's prime selling point is that he's the main villain of the Zelda series against Mario. He's a leech. Bowser, on the other hand, is not.

Leonhart's already given me response.

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:38:02 PM | Message Detail
True, true. You're far more likely to find a person who likes Bowser than Ganon.

Ganon's way cooler than Bowser is. Also way cooler than Link and Mario, for that matter.
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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 276
From: Big Bob | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:43:44 PM | Message Detail
I can see why Mario is the SFF king. Everyone has played his games, everyone likes him, so it's easy for him to SFF anyone. Not as many people have played Link's games, but those who have like Link more.

Ganondorf is stronger than Yoshi, yet Link hit Ganon a lot harder thanks to direct SFF. The more the fanbases overlap, the more the SFF. Except in certain cases, when a secondary character is actually more popular than the main character, like Cloud/Sephiroth or Zero/Mega Man.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:46:11 PM | Message Detail
Except in certain cases, when a secondary character is actually more popular than the main character, like Cloud/Sephiroth or Zero/Mega Man.

I know ya mean well, but watch the wording: Cloud/Mega Man are undoubtedly stronger than Sephiroth/Zero. I know what you're getting at though; Sephiroth/Zero were able to resist SFF.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:46:45 PM | Message Detail
Why does it feel like the stats topic has regressed a couple of years?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:48:28 PM | Message Detail
How so, exactly? It's clowed down alot, sure, but...well, explain what ya mean, heh.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:49:34 PM | Message Detail
Not only clowed, but slowed too.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:55:21 PM | Message Detail
I read that as "it's clowned alot", heh. I was just joking at the discussion of how SFF works.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:55:38 PM | Message Detail
Last offseason seemed so much shorter, and we had an extra mini-contest this year.

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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:56:37 PM | Message Detail
I would be very nice to get word of some type of contest sometime soon.

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:57:28 PM | Message Detail
You would be very nice.

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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/7/2006 3:57:56 PM | Message Detail
I would... but I clearly meant "it." <<

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/7/2006 4:03:46 PM | Message Detail
Aw... no sexy Aitch Emm action?

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From: TRE Public Account | Posted: 2/7/2006 4:08:59 PM | Message Detail
The Spring 2004 Contest nominations opened in late Febuary. It may not be too much longer until the next contest begins.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/7/2006 5:31:14 PM | Message Detail
Message From Ultima_X at 2006-02-07 01:19:11
Not really a suggestion so much as a question, but... any chance of the poll starting time ever changing back to 1 AM EST like it used to be? It would make watching the beginning and end of contest polls... a lot easier on the sleep cycle, to say the least.
Message From GameFAQs at 2006-02-07 05:52:33
When I travel to the east coast, 3AM is kind of late...


For the love of GOD please let this mean what it implies. The poll starting at 3 AM is damn annoying.

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/7/2006 6:01:34 PM | Message Detail
Please! Staying up past 3 AM for that last contest has majorly ****ed up my sleeping patterns. Now I can hardly go to sleep before 3:00 hits and end up sleeping late. It's going to be an absolute pain to change my sleeping habits back when I start working.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/7/2006 6:28:48 PM | Message Detail
Personally, I prefer the current start time. You'll never make everyone happy, but it's nice that the West Coast people are favored for once when it comes to time zones.
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From: Big Bob | Posted: 2/7/2006 6:35:31 PM | Message Detail
The only match I've ever seen begin was Vercetti/Kite, which is odd, considering I'm not fond of either character.

I would like to see the board vote in action, though...
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From: greatone10 | Posted: 2/7/2006 6:57:16 PM | Message Detail
Yeah! Think of us Western Time Zone people!

Actually, I'd prefer for the polls to start at 10 P.M., so go for it.
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From: Ed Bellis | Posted: 2/7/2006 7:03:16 PM | Message Detail
So, here's a random question for you stats people.

I am thinking of doing my own little Guru contest for when the next contest bracket comes out, but instead of who gets the highest-scoring bracket, the contest would be who fills out the closest to a zero bracket. I'd make it so that it would be possible to enter into both contests (like, your zero bracket doesn't have to be for prizes, but you can only have one zero bracket). Also, given my contest history, I thought it would be appropriate to call it the Ed Bellis Award for Excellence in the Field of Ed Bellis... but that might be a little too... self-indulgent. ;-)

So, my question is: do you think something like this could work? Would anyone here be interested in it? I know many people enter zero brackets, but to my knowledge there's never been any formalized competition for them. Would there be any concerns you might have or questions or suggestions about it?

The one thing I haven't been able to surmise an effective way of doing is how to handle a tie, since there's no tiebreaker, so I guess I'll pose that to you guys as well.

Any thoughts?
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/7/2006 7:06:51 PM | Message Detail
The poll starting earlier wouldn't affect you westerners in the least; you see it begin even if it's left alone. The poll being where it is now affects the east-coasters a ton, and given that this is an American-based site Ceej should accommodate everyone.

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/7/2006 7:31:24 PM | Message Detail
It does affect us. Admittedly, it affects East Coast people more. But I'm not always home by 9 or 10, and I'd miss some of the exciting stuff near the end of the polls. Anyway, I wouldn't be too upset if he changed the time, I'm just saying I like the current system better.

Ed, instead of having a separate Guru contest, maybe you could give the Ed Bellis award to the person who scores lowest in the regular Guru contest? Basically, my thinking is that trying for a zero bracket just means trying to pick the first round matches right, which you're trying to do anyway in a regular bracket - so I'm not sure if it makes sense to have a separate contest for it.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 2/7/2006 7:55:21 PM | Message Detail
I actually liked it when the match started at 10pm, I got to see more of the early parts and I can go to bed early if the match is overhyped.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 2/7/2006 7:56:10 PM | Message Detail
Kax beat me to it... 0 Bracket Guru is a "Perfect First Round Guru Contest," which we're all trying for already. If you want to make it formal with an official challenge, go right ahead. The trouble I see there is that alot of people wouldn't actually have submitted that bracket, so by the end you'd have 6 Guru with "perfect brackets" still left, but maybe only 5 on the official rankings, which would be odd.

And actually, I'm one of the few who's fine with the Contest start times right now (2 AM for me), since I don't have to wake up before 10 this semester. But yes, moving back to midnight would be a good move for the majority... First Vote would become an even stronger competition, for one thing. Good to know CJay is considering it.

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From: Big Bob | Posted: 2/7/2006 7:59:08 PM | Message Detail
I've always thought zero brackets were dumb. If you get a perfect zero bracket, all it's saying is that you predicted every first-round match right. That's impressive, but not nearly as impressive as getting some of the Elite 8/Final Four rounds correct.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/7/2006 9:47:47 PM | Message Detail
Some of us West Coasters could benefit from getting to sleep before 1 Am (cause you know you gotta stay up for the first hour)
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/7/2006 9:51:53 PM | Message Detail
When I'm living at home (in the Central Time Zone), 2 AM ain't so bad, plus my summer job doesn't need me getting up as early as college does. When I'm at college, however (in the Eastern Time Zone), 3 AM is killer, especially when I have classes as early as 8:10. Granted, I usually stay up until at least 1:30 anyways, but that extra time is oftentimes crucial.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/7/2006 9:53:39 PM | Message Detail
Some of us West Coasters could benefit from getting to sleep before 1 Am (cause you know you gotta stay up for the first hour)

Exactly. Now imagine us EAST Coasters having to stay up past 4 just to see the first hour...
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/7/2006 9:55:37 PM | Message Detail
During the summer, I usually stayed up 'til 5 AM. Sure, I worked four nights a week, but it was still pretty crazy.
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From: LoopZoopTheBest | Posted: 2/7/2006 11:06:39 PM | Message Detail
Switching topics a bit, I want to talk about the Guru Contest. For me, it seems like a simple sig bet just isn't enough anymore. Upping the stakes would definitely spice up the contest and make for a more competitive atmosphere. In addition to the sig bet, how about we require every loser to nominate one character of the winner's choosing for the next Summer Contest?
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/8/2006 1:04:12 AM | Message Detail
I forgot to mention, one thing I don't like about changing the poll time is that it reduces the second night vote, which I think would generally make close matches less interesting. Frog's comeback and both of Starcraft's comebacks would have been smaller.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/8/2006 6:07:45 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but would the beginning of the poll cancel that out or not? The match still progresses through 24 hours regardless.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/8/2006 6:29:34 AM | Message Detail
If memory serves me right, we've still seen two Mario/Crono matches (the good ones), Mega Man/Sephiroth, Mario/Cloud, Sonic/Samus, Tidus/Ganon, Ganon/Magus, Kefka/Pac-Man, DK/Vercetti, DK/Duck Hunt, and Halo/Starcraft before the switch of time-zones (and we might have gone the entire Game Contest before switching, I forget). I ain't worried about it cutting down on close matches, especially since it's not like only about four matches this past year were as closer or closer than Tidus/Ganon.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 2/8/2006 6:34:43 AM | Message Detail
You're thinking of the site layout, the time changed, I think was in between 2k3 and Sp2k4
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/8/2006 7:16:01 AM | Message Detail
I would participate in a zero bracket guru contest... as for a tiebreaker, maybe choose the character who you think will recieve the least amount of votes overall in the first round, and then specify the number?

As for the start time of the contest, 3 AM is pretty ridiculous for us East Coasters, and I don't see why pushing it back to 1 AM for us or 10 PM for westerners would be bad at all. In the summer I have no problem staying up from 3-5 to watch the beggining of a match (if it's good) or just 'till 3 to see the beggining, but once school starts up it's a pain in the arse.

Upping the stakes for the guru contest, as in getting everyone to nominate a character of your choice for the next contest would be amazing, I'd love it if that were to happen.

And as for the time change "ruining" close matches, it wouldn't have any real affect on it, instead of a first night vote and the second night vote, the first one would just be larger and the second one smaller. Same result, different totals at different points in the day.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/8/2006 7:20:03 AM | Message Detail
Do you think it would help vote totals if the starting time was moved back to 1 A.M. EST? Maybe I'm making a false correlation here with the starting and ending of the poll with vote totals, but it's curious to think about.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 2/8/2006 7:53:15 AM | Message Detail
Not really, the only difference we're going to see is that we'll have a longer 1st night vote and a shorter 2nd night vote.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/8/2006 7:54:30 AM | Message Detail
Not at all Leon... I just think we'd see much bigger leads gained in the night by characters who have good night votes, and larger comebacks throughout the day.

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/8/2006 8:19:35 AM | Message Detail
Switching topics a bit, I want to talk about the Guru Contest. For me, it seems like a simple sig bet just isn't enough anymore. Upping the stakes would definitely spice up the contest and make for a more competitive atmosphere. In addition to the sig bet, how about we require every loser to nominate one character of the winner's choosing for the next Summer Contest?

That would be pretty awesome.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/8/2006 8:27:34 AM | Message Detail
The thing about that new Guru stipulation, if it were ever put into place, is that it almost-certainly need to be done on a Spring Contest so it's still in the memory of people come summer-time. I don't see a summer-time Guru getting his nomination say-so followed through the next year.

Besides, it's not like we have 100% on people giving their sigs anyways. I assume it'd get less people joining the Guru contest or more people not completing the deal.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/8/2006 10:20:27 AM | Message Detail
The only way I could see vote totals being affected by an earlier poll time is if there's vote rallying at the end of the poll. I doubt it would make much difference, if any.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:10:00 PM | Message Detail
On the other hand, you could argue that rallying will be more popular with the earlier end time. If Mario starts to make a late push he'd be doing it at 11ish EST when everyone is still awake and everyone could get caught up in the rallying. And if not everyone, still certainly more than you'd see starting at 1AM.

And that's a cool idea for the Spring Guru, where 1 out of everyone else's 10 Summer noms has to the character of choice... With another short nom season, and assuming all the Gurus uphold the bargain, that'd be almost enough to ensure your character making the field right there.

I'd be willing to add that condition to the next Guru, if it's the popular opinion.

Thoughts?

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:13:16 PM | Message Detail
I'm indifferent to the idea more than anything. If people stay true to it like most people with their sigs, then it'll be great for the Spring Contest (though not for summer contests). I just fear that maybe people wn't stay so loyal to it. Then again though, people were loyal for Leonhart's contest and will be for Slow's...

...ya know what, go for it and see how it goes for the spring.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:18:13 PM | Message Detail
Oh, or here's a thought. Maybe as part of the new deal, the Guru champ would be given the choice of whether the rest of the Guru's sig advertise him, OR, advertise his character of choice. So for instance, once I win this Spring Guru, for the next two weeks I could either have Ulti's sig read


I'm no match for Ngamer, '06 Spring Guru Champion!
Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest

OR

Nominate Joanna Dark for the Summer Contest!
Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest


Imagine the power of 100+ guaranteed noms, plus 100+ of the Board's most influential posters pulling for your character in the sig of all their posts.

Hmmm...

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:19:54 PM | Message Detail
That sounds even better. Go for that one.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:21:23 PM | Message Detail
That one, OR, both? (noms + optional rally sigage)

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:22:57 PM | Message Detail
"Thoughts?"

Brilliant.
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From: LoopZoopTheBest | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:25:26 PM | Message Detail
Huzzah!
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:27:35 PM | Message Detail
Noms + Choice of your name OR Choice of your character

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/8/2006 12:27:37 PM | Message Detail
It's supposed to be a bet. Stepping it up to the next level is great. Take their sigs AND get the character of your choice into the contest? Now that's a prize.

And, it should be noted, the basis of the contest was to have whatever the winner wanted in the loser's sig (really, aren't all sig bets?). That may have changed due to various factors, but I think they should get the "Nominate XXXX" option anyway.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/8/2006 1:15:58 PM | Message Detail
Hell, while you're at it, you could have a runner-up get their character of choice a nom from all of the gurus as well. They wouldn't get the sig prize, but it would be nice to have another winner. It might make the competition even more competitive and draw more people to the contest. I WOULD say have 2nd and 3rd place, but tying up 3 noms would be asking too much.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/8/2006 1:27:50 PM | Message Detail
Second place is pushing it as far as nominations go. As is, we already got Slow's contest that is taking up to five nominations from many board members, then we also have the very favored Jay Solano. Because of those, there's already board members with as few as four left for their own personal tastes. I'm up for first place getting a nomination, but two very well could be pushing it.

Now, I wouldn't be opposed to 1st place getting to pick whether he wanted the sigs or a nomination, then let 2nd place automatically take what 2st didn't pick...and I'm not against there being a runner-up, either. It's just that, with nominations involved and all now, that becomes much touchier to have the top two take nominations. Should that be the case, depending on how Slow's contest goes, I may or may not risk my nominations on the Guru contest.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/8/2006 1:29:14 PM | Message Detail
Now, I wouldn't be opposed to 1st place getting to pick whether he wanted the sigs or a nomination, then let 2nd place automatically take what 2st didn't pick...

1st, obviously.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/8/2006 1:50:41 PM | Message Detail
I love the nominations idea, but I think only 1st place should get anything. No prize for the runner up.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/8/2006 1:52:49 PM | Message Detail
No prize for the runner up.

How about just the sig for the runner-up?

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/8/2006 1:56:10 PM | Message Detail
I think we should take that one step further. All losers have to nominate the character of the winner's choice and advertise in their sigs.

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From: LoopZoopTheBest | Posted: 2/8/2006 1:57:34 PM | Message Detail
I think we should take that one step further. All losers have to nominate the character of the winner's choice and advertise in their sigs.

That's how I feel, and I also think we should keep it as an all-or-nothing contest. First place or go home, monkeys!
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:01:39 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, prizes for anything but first place is stupid. Making sig space available for one winner is hard enough.

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:02:11 PM | Message Detail
I think we should take that one step further. All losers have to nominate the character of the winner's choice and advertise in their sigs.

I've never actually participated in a guru contest (I probably will next time though :p), but aren't there enough people in it that when they all nominate a character, it's pretty much guaranteed to get in?

Is the advertising really necessary in addition to the nominating? I could see it being as nice prize for the runner-up.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:03:04 PM | Message Detail
The winner, in that case, wouldn't be getting any sig space. Just the noms. Well, he can choose. But he'll probably choose the noms.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:05:27 PM | Message Detail
Good point about the winner not needing the sig space. But yes, enough people participate to allow their character of choice a guaranteed spot in the next contest.

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:08:28 PM | Message Detail
Meh, I don't like the idea of a runner up getting anything, it just isn't Guru-like.

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:09:27 PM | Message Detail
Good point about the winner not needing the sig space. But yes, enough people participate to allow their character of choice a guaranteed spot in the next contest.

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Well, then I'd think it would be better if the runner up got the 2nd choice.

For the losers, it's the same: they lose a nom and some sig space.

The winner gets his character in either way as well, or his sig space.

The only difference is for the finalist who gets a respectable reward for his run in the contest.

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From: LoopZoopTheBest | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:10:21 PM | Message Detail
I'm thinking the winner should receive the traditional Guru sig prize and the contest nominations. Advertising won't really be necessary if most of the Gurus remember/adhere to the honor system and nominate the winner's character.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:10:46 PM | Message Detail
From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/8/2006 4:08:28 PM | Message Detail | #410
Meh, I don't like the idea of a runner up getting anything, it just isn't Guru-like.


What he said.

And I'm telling you people right now, Miles Edgeworth will be getting into Summer 2006 is I win the Spring 2006 Guru Contest.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:11:26 PM | Message Detail
*if I win, even

Though given that I've yet to even see the leaderboard again since Spring 2004, you guys have little to worry about.

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:12:15 PM | Message Detail
I'm thinking the winner should receive the traditional Guru sig prize and the contest nominations. Advertising won't really be necessary if most of the Gurus remember/adhere to the honor system and nominate the winner's character.

Ah yes. The sig space is, of course, not strictly for advertising (in fact I doubt it's ever been used as that).

Well, winner takes all works for me. So long as the nomination is a prize..
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/8/2006 2:19:45 PM | Message Detail
If I win, I'm picking AKI Man. Keep in mind last spring Ridley/Diablo was the only match that kept me from a perfect bracket, and I learn from my mistakes.

Believe that, booooiiii.
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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/8/2006 3:59:50 PM | Message Detail
I think we should take that one step further. All losers have to nominate the character of the winner's choice and advertise in their sigs.

Winner. <3

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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/8/2006 4:00:55 PM | Message Detail
Meh, I don't like the idea of a runner up getting anything, it just isn't Guru-like.

I 100% agree. The idea of a runner-up in the Guru contest just seems... wrong.

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From: WilhuffTarkin | Posted: 2/8/2006 4:03:16 PM | Message Detail
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the Guru contest?
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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/8/2006 4:28:42 PM | Message Detail
... In other news that is related to the contest, Kingdom Hearts II got an official release date of March 28th.

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/8/2006 5:05:06 PM | Message Detail
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the Guru contest?

It's basically a contest among people on the board to see who can have the highest scoring bracket in the contest. Traditionally it was just a sig bet. The past winners are ulti, yoblazer, jmangamer, and voltch. (I think)
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/8/2006 5:14:16 PM | Message Detail
Yep, those are the past winners... if there was anyone before Ulti I wouldn't know, my first contest on this board was Sp2K4.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 2/8/2006 8:49:10 PM | Message Detail
Got to agree... 2nd place deserves a pat on the back, a firm handshake, and some sage advice. A nom/sig space just doesn't feel Guru-like.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:06:18 AM | Message Detail
Given that the first guru contest was Spring 2004, that be the right list.

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From: consolefreak | Posted: 2/9/2006 8:40:15 AM | Message Detail
It's basically a contest among people on the board to see who can have the highest scoring bracket in the contest. Traditionally it was just a sig bet. The past winners are ulti, yoblazer, jmangamer, and voltch. (I think)

What? I thought you had to predict percentages and got points depending on how far you were off. That's a different contest?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 8:54:41 AM | Message Detail
That's the Oracle challenge, I believe.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 9:51:14 AM | Message Detail
Yep, that'd be the Oracle.

And everyone knows the Gurus are ten times sexier than anyone who participates in the Oracle. >_>

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/9/2006 10:14:58 AM | Message Detail
Sorry EC, but I think you have that backwards. ;)
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 10:21:07 AM | Message Detail
Stop spreading your slanderous lies!

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 10:21:51 AM | Message Detail
By the way...


Aeris/Tifa
Dante/Zelda

I'm bored...

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:37:33 AM | Message Detail
Pre-AC Aeris wins, after AC, Tifa does. I don't think AC's coming out 'til Fall though.

But nobody in that fourpack stands a chance against the Twilight Princess herself.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:48:12 AM | Message Detail
Slow's starting up the nomination rally again today, right?

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:54:01 AM | Message Detail
Sadly, I'd take Tifa over Aeris, Zelda over Dante, and Tifa over Zelda (assuming the match was held today). I'm one of Aeris's biggest supporters, but after seeing the hate she gets on this board I don't think she'd beat Tifa anymore. I don't understand why people hate her, and I don't think she has that much hate outside the board, but still.

After TP, I'd take Zelda over Tifa instead.
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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:57:28 AM | Message Detail
Zelda > Tifa.

I would do all of this before TP, as it is still up in the air if the game will even come out prior to then. That said, it does make the decision difficult with the added influence of Kingdom Hearts II, which Tifa is present in.

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 11:59:21 AM | Message Detail
As for me, I'd probably take Tifa > Zelda.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:17:18 PM | Message Detail
Slow's starting up the nomination rally again today, right?

That's what he said, assuming all goes well.


I can't wait.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:17:50 PM | Message Detail
Me too... I really wish he didn't stop it.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:18:19 PM | Message Detail
"Got to agree... 2nd place deserves a pat on the back, a firm handshake, and some sage advice. A nom/sig space just doesn't feel Guru-like."

Having taken second I agree. When you get that close but miss it you don't feel like you've earned anything.

"Stop spreading your slanderous lies!"

Yes, indeed, stop lying. The Gurus are at least twenty times as sexy as the Oracle participants.

"Aeris/Tifa
Dante/Zelda"

Aeris>Dante pre-TP, Aeris>Zelda post-TP

Oh, so all of you know, when I win the spring Guru contest you get to say hello to Aeris. :)
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:19:00 PM | Message Detail
That's what I said, and that's what's going to happen.

Jesus, I'm ****ing wasted. Between getting up on Tuesday and the end of the lab session this morning, I've barely had time to breathe. Putting this thing on hold = best decision I've ever taken.
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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:21:11 PM | Message Detail
I could easily see myself taking Tifa over Zelda if I was forced to see a bracket and had to make a decision. I find it quite unlikely that Twilight Princess will hit a release date prior to the contest at this point, unless something is shown by Iwata at GDC next month. Tifa, and Aerith as well, would have the added benefit of getting Kingdom Hearts II, which should help out a good portion of the Square characters involved.


Oh, so all of you know, when I win the spring Guru contest you get to say hello to Aeris.

Pfft. When I win, you are all nominating Captain Falcon. =p

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And not marrying me was the worst.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:21:59 PM | Message Detail
Whew! Thank god I know you won't be winning it. I'd hate you forever for that.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:22:51 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and since it's the cool thing to do.

When I win, you're all noming Roo.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:23:18 PM | Message Detail
Maybe I'll actually enter for the sake of Serge.
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Nominate Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for SC2K6!
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:23:21 PM | Message Detail
Roo?
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:23:45 PM | Message Detail
Nononono. When I win... aw, damn, I said I wouldn't enter bracket contests anymore.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:27:04 PM | Message Detail
Streets of Rage.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:27:23 PM | Message Detail
So far, not a one of those mentioned would hold a light to AKI Man.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:27:32 PM | Message Detail
Are we talking Roo from Streets of Rage here?

...That would be hardcore.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:29:52 PM | Message Detail
You're goddamn straight we are Leonhart.

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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:30:09 PM | Message Detail
Why nominate Roo when we can nominate Ash (street of Rage 3), all the Village People fans would vote for him >_>


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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:31:15 PM | Message Detail
If there was anyone else I'd nom from Steets of Rage it would be Axl, but Roo is just far too badass.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:44:36 PM | Message Detail
Roo would be pretty hardcore, granted, but since Battletoads > SoR, Pimple/Rash/Zitz > Roo.
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/9/2006 12:48:38 PM | Message Detail
When I win, Parappa will make his triumphant contest return!

(Okay, maybe not.)
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6.
From: Yesmar | Posted: 2/9/2006 1:33:57 PM | Message Detail
Oh, so all of you know, when I win the spring Guru contest you get to say hello to Aeris. :)

Good. That makes two of us.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/9/2006 1:36:33 PM | Message Detail
^5 Yesmar!
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From: Kaxon | Posted: 2/9/2006 2:09:56 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, in reality I'd be picking Aeris too. (As much as I like Parappa, watching him lose in round 1 wouldn't be much fun).
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6.
From: voltch | Posted: 2/9/2006 2:28:08 PM | Message Detail
when i win another guru contest robo will finally make the contest.hehehehehehe
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 2/9/2006 2:30:20 PM | Message Detail
Hm...so I guess there is a reason I'd want to participate in a Guru contest again, after all (if we do that). Wario!!!!

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 2/9/2006 3:28:08 PM | Message Detail
Pfft. When I win, you are all nominating Captain Falcon. =p

>_< I really hope nobody picks a character who's guaranteed to get in anyway.

And when I win the guru contest, we'll finally have an answer to where in the world Carmen Sandiego is.
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In the contest, lol.
Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/9/2006 3:31:08 PM | Message Detail
^5s Kaxon!
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From: swirldude | Posted: 2/9/2006 3:34:20 PM | Message Detail
I really hope nobody picks a character who's guaranteed to get in anyway.

So when I win, I shouldn't pick Knux?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 3:48:43 PM | Message Detail
I'd forgive you for picking Knuckles.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/9/2006 3:50:57 PM | Message Detail
Seeing Knuckles land a 2-seed or something like that would be worth it, I say.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 3:55:20 PM | Message Detail
Heh...out of curiousity, if the winner wasn't a regular here and they wanted people to nominate Link, who here would nominate Link?
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From: swirldude | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:08:34 PM | Message Detail
No one.
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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:12:57 PM | Message Detail
I really hope nobody picks a character who's guaranteed to get in anyway.

It is all the more fun to see him get a high seed.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:15:57 PM | Message Detail
Oh hell...

...Gordon Freeman.



Surely he could win a 2/7-seed match..despite having lost a 3/14-seed match before...right?
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:19:00 PM | Message Detail
2 Gordon Freeman
7 Marth

I wouldn't be too sure of that at all.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:22:01 PM | Message Detail
Gordon's a lot stronger than Lloyd... with a proper 7/14-seed, he WILL win.

Speaking of which, which bracket layout do you like better, 4x16 or 8x8? I prefer the former by a large margin.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:23:52 PM | Message Detail
I like the latter. It gives us an excuse to have more division names. <_<
From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:27:07 PM | Message Detail
It doesn't really matter to me either way, although I did like the 8x8 format. More higher seeds potentially cause more overrating by general bracket mackers. Plus it was nice to see some characters get #1 seeds and the division named after them when we probably would not have seen that otherwise (Snake, Kirby, Chief, Dante). Now if we can only get a Master Emerald division....
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:28:03 PM | Message Detail
And I did not just say "bracket mackers". I swear my brain is deteriorating...
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Currently playing: MMXC, Fight Night R2, Threads of Fate, Jade Empire
From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:36:35 PM | Message Detail
I prefer 8x8, myself.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:39:36 PM | Message Detail
Admittedly, the reason why I don't like it is because it messes with comparative stats and the like.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:45:21 PM | Message Detail
8x8, just because you can work the bracket to make more intresting match-ups.

Oh and if someone who won wanted my to nominate Link, I'd tell them to shove it.

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 2/9/2006 4:49:26 PM | Message Detail
If a guru winner wanted me to nominate Link, I'd nominate Epona...
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:11:25 PM | Message Detail
omg 500th post?

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:11:36 PM | Message Detail
lol dang i missed it

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:16:34 PM | Message Detail
Twice, no less, and ya weren't even close! Ha! Probably on purpose, but that's beside the point.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:16:56 PM | Message Detail
I'm bored out of my mind... >_>

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:17:49 PM | Message Detail
I've spent all day cleaning, I'm not so bored any more. You should try it.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:18:27 PM | Message Detail
I've been eating all day.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:25:18 PM | Message Detail
Plus it was nice to see some characters get #1 seeds and the division named after them when we probably would not have seen that otherwise (Snake, Kirby, Chief, Dante).

It's not like Snake's never gotten a 1 seed before...
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:26:15 PM | Message Detail
And it's not like Leonhart isn't sexy.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:27:26 PM | Message Detail
This man knows what he's talking about.
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Nominate Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for SC2K6!
From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:28:10 PM | Message Detail
Indeed I do.

Snake & Squall > Your favorite characters, unless they are.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:29:22 PM | Message Detail
Snake > Squall forever and always though, and I say this as a blind assumption on Squall's part.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:29:42 PM | Message Detail
I'll agree to that.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:30:41 PM | Message Detail
Snake & Squall > Your favorite characters, unless they are.

Well, duh.

Also, play Final Fantasy VIII, HaRRicH. Now.
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Nominate Serge (Chrono Cross) for SC2K6!
Nominate Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for SC2K6!
From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:31:20 PM | Message Detail
If you brought up Tidus I was going to slit your throat. You live.... for now.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:33:03 PM | Message Detail
I will if I ever see it on sale for cheap again (I saw it the other day and had left my checks at home), though it'd still take alot of free time for me to play it...and given I'm a male-lead in a play now and tryin' to make decent grades again in college, I'm kinda short on time, heh.

I swear I wanna try it though...did you say awhile back it's availible for PC?
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:34:21 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, you can get it on PC. I don't know if anythings different about it, never played it on PC.

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From: Do not even ask | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:40:26 PM | Message Detail
You can actually download the game on the PC and it runs perfectly. My recent playthrough from last July was actually through the PC version.

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From: Haste2 | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:42:16 PM | Message Detail
We don't know for sure what the next contest will be about, right? If so, is there a plan to do a games version of the nomination rally tournament just in case? =p

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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:44:06 PM | Message Detail
If Prince of Persia wins the nomination rally, and it's a games contest, I demand that it still count. >_>

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:45:54 PM | Message Detail
Summer contest has been characters for years now, I don't that'd be changed.
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From: Applause Sign | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:46:21 PM | Message Detail
I think he's referring to the Spring.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:47:16 PM | Message Detail
Would it matter, then? As long as there is a character contest tihs year the nomination contest is still valid.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:47:21 PM | Message Detail
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney > Final Fantasy VII
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:47:21 PM | Message Detail
One Day Pimple and Princess
Angelica were out cruisin'

When suddenly

Pimple and the princess
Were capture by the
Dark Queen and taken to
a nearby planet.

Meanwhile, back on the spaceship Vulture -
The Battletoads base....

Coach:
Hey 'Toads !
The Dark Queen's kidnapped
Pimple and Angelica
and she's holding them
in the Gargantua.
Go get 'em 'Toads!

Rash and Zitz:
Yeah! Let's get 'em back!
I gotta craving for
action! Take us to the
rumble, Coach!

Dark Queen:
Not so fast battlejerks!
Before you even reach me
You'll have to beat
Robo-manus and Big Blag.

Still fancy your chances ?
Come to me now, if you
Dare! Ha - ha - ha - ha!
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From: trannyscience | Posted: 2/9/2006 7:47:21 PM | Message Detail
OPERATION SHADOW
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