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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/10/2004 7:48:06 PM | Message Detail
It seems strange to have to say this, as if it's a bad thing, but... Stats moves too fast. In the past I've tried to keep all Guru-related discussion within that single topic, but with it being filled all the way to 500 within a matter of just 72ish hours these days, I think we can spare a few posts for here.

So from now on, anytime you'd like to check the current standings in the Guru Prediction Contest, just head over to this topic and scroll down to latest posting. OR, you could just take the link that will from now on be found in my signature. That will take you to the Excel spreadsheet I use to track Guru stats and keep the standings up to date. If I were you, that'd probably be where I'd want to head first, as it also contains a ton of additional, pretty interesting information, plus it allows you to easily track anyone else's bracket.

I've got some stats to go over, but first... check the current rankings! (I've already given Tommy the credit for the win today. No big deal, as no one picked Max anyways.)


The Guru Scoreboard

1st Ngamer 11
2nd Heroic Mario 11
3rd yoblazer 11
4th tnote 11
5th ChichiriMuyo 11
6th Cavemanbob 11
7th DomaDragoon 11
8th cavedog 11
9th charmander 11
10th Steinershocker 11
11th Vietboizz 11
12th BeTheMan 11
13th TeamRocketElite 11
14th Mac Arrowny 11
15th Garsha 11
16th nifboy 11
17th RamzaB 11
18th Riazar 11
19th Yesmar 11
20th King Morgoth 11
21st Tai 11
22nd UltimaterializerX 11
23rd Lt. Kettch 11
24th KrustytheKlown 11
25th swirldude 11
26th MasterMage 11
27th Haste2 11
28th YokeI 11
29th FrostHarpy 11
30th FastFalcon 11
31st Smurf Thy Legend 11
32nd franmars 11
33rd red sox 11
34th Ringworm 11
35th ps2rulezzz 11
36th fett 11
37th Hogasm 11
38th Fantusta 11
39th cyko 10
40th Bananaquest 10
41st Salient 10
42nd MMXcalibur 10
43rd TyRaNuS 10
44th Sir Chris 10
45th arkenaga 10
46th Alanna 10
47th ExquisiteSamurai 10
48th perdevious 10
49th Aprosenf 10
50th Dilated Chemist 10
51st Z1mZum 10
52nd WiggumFan 10
53rd HaRRicH 10
54th Rufus Shinra 10
55th Qwaar 10
56th DaruniaTheKing 10
57th irriadin 10
58th steve illumina 10
59th andaca 10
60th TheRye 10
61st Ct. Roy Falcon 10
62nd Bocase 10
63rd ChibiKuririn 10
64th Haunter 10
65th jonthomson 10
66th Tarrot 10

38 perfect brackets, 57.58%

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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/10/2004 7:49:58 PM | Message Detail
Awesome! Looks like we lost some perfects yesterday.
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Fight Mega Man, for everlasting peace!
From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 8/10/2004 7:50:32 PM | Message Detail
w00! I'm in the Top 50.. >,>

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Summer 2004 Contest - Score: 9/10
= Tommy Vercetti vs. Max Payne =
From: franmars | Posted: 8/10/2004 7:58:08 PM | Message Detail
Ugh, the site as a whole did better on Tidus v Shadow than the gurus did.

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Todays Pick: Tidus
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2004 8:00:57 PM | Message Detail
Hotness, N. Absolute hotness. I was hoping you'd make a topic for it.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/10/2004 8:25:30 PM | Message Detail
Both this topic and the Excel file will be updated every night that one of the Gurus predicts a match incorrectly, thus affecting the standings. And now... stats!

The biggest change from this Spring to now, stats-wise, is the sudden difference in opinion between the Board and the Experts (aka us). During the Great Game Contest, there was not a single disagreement between the two groups, in regards to who the winner of a match would be. This time around, we turned the table on the Board Odds not once, but three times. Best yet, one of those heavily contested matches just happens to be the Championship! Check this out:

Round One, Tidus v Shadow:
Gurus - 64.52% say Tidus
Board - 49.58% say Tidus
a 14.94% swing

Round One, Ness v Jak:
Gurus - 56.45% say Ness
Board - 48.74% say Ness
a 7.71% swing

The Championship, Link v Cloud:
Gurus - 45.45% say Cloud
Board - 39.83% say Cloud
a 5.62% swing.
(Link falls -4.01%; Seph rises 1.28%)

One down, two to go. Because of those three changes, the Guru Consensus Bracket looks like this.

The Guru Bracket

Round One: Link, Ganon, Yoshi, Luigi, Magus, Crono, Bowser, Mario |
Mega, Tidus, Tommy, Zero, Frog, M. Chief, Knux, Snake |
Cloud, Vyse, Kirby, Squall, Ness, Auron, Vivi, Seph |
Sonic, Ryu, Joe, Dante, Sora, Ryu, Sam, Samus

Round Two: Link, Yoshi, Crono, Mario | Mega, Zero, Frog, Snake |
Cloud, Squall, Auron, Seph | Sonic, Dante, Ryu, Samus

Elite Eight: Link, Crono, Mega, Snake, Cloud, Seph, Sonic, Samus

Final Four: Link, Mega, Cloud, Samus

Final: Link, Cloud

Champ: Cloud

Which, interestingly enough, is my own bracket, exactly. Unfortunately, the same could be said for three other people... me, ChichiriMuyo, BeTheMan, and Fantusta all tie for the Cookie Cutter Award, having not made a single risky pick. (Better have a good tiebreaker, guys!) The Originality Award, on the other hand, goes to Tarrot, who went against common opinion a full 12 times. On average, there were 4.09 differences from consensus per bracket.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/11/2004 4:02:14 AM | Message Detail
Interesting. And Smurf picked Tidus? The hell?

Out of curiosity, does anyone else have the exact same bracket as you guys, but with DK beating Vivi?
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:04:16 AM | Message Detail
Just you, Ulti. So if things go your way, you win without your tiebreaker even coming into effect. Lucky you.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:06:46 AM | Message Detail
Well isn't that interesting?

So basically, my contest hinges on DK vs Vivi. How odd.
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From: andaca | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:30:08 AM | Message Detail
Well, i was just looking over my bracket on your site, and for some reason I had Kefka winning....

I double checked my Actual bracket, and i DO have knuckles winning that, so i probably just entered it wrong. Would you be able to change it?

Course, i still don't know why i picked Gordon to win a match....God help.
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From: perdevious | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:37:02 AM | Message Detail
Cool.
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From: Tai | Posted: 8/11/2004 7:17:41 AM | Message Detail
*tag*

Finally, what I've been waiting for.
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From: TheRye | Posted: 8/11/2004 7:24:51 AM | Message Detail
Hopefully Jill over Ryu pays off.. how many of the gurus have that pick?
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I GOTTA HAVE MORE COWBELL
Boot and Immune: 23 TheRye; Contest: 10/11
From: Tai | Posted: 8/11/2004 7:34:28 AM | Message Detail
Hopefully Jill over Ryu pays off.. how many of the gurus have that pick?

4 out of 66...ouch.
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From: cronus striker | Posted: 8/11/2004 7:35:59 AM | Message Detail
This is a very good topic
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From: Alanna82 | Posted: 8/11/2004 7:40:54 AM | Message Detail
TAG!
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From: Yesmar | Posted: 8/11/2004 7:46:52 AM | Message Detail
So basically, my contest hinges on DK vs Vivi. How odd.

Hah! See. These first round matches can make a difference.

Note: This comment is not to be directed at Ulti, but just to people in general who say that first round matches don't matter.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/11/2004 10:03:33 AM | Message Detail
TAG. Nice to see the standings up at last, once they actually make a difference. What's the next match with losses?
From: TheRye | Posted: 8/11/2004 10:06:27 AM | Message Detail
4 out of 66...ouch.

That's okay, I'm not nearly surprised that it's that few. I picked SSBM over FFX in the Spring and it paid off (too bad I blew it on other matches). Have to go against the grain somewhere, or else there'll be 10 people with the same winning bracket and I suck at predicting tiebreakers.
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Boot and Immune: 23 TheRye; Contest: 10/11
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/11/2004 11:42:03 AM | Message Detail
Never mind, just checked the link. btw, my winner is Link, not Cloud. Thanks!
From: swirldude | Posted: 8/11/2004 12:23:16 PM | Message Detail
Guru contest owns. Go DK and Jak!
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/11/2004 1:16:32 PM | Message Detail
Unfortunately, the same could be said for three other people... me, ChichiriMuyo, BeTheMan, and Fantusta all tie for the Cookie Cutter Award, having not made a single risky pick.

At least you guys are all cool and sig-worthy, so it's all good.

What are their tiebreakers?
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 8/11/2004 1:23:37 PM | Message Detail
tag... come on Crono, Cloud, Jak and Vivi!
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From: irriadin | Posted: 8/11/2004 3:13:19 PM | Message Detail
tag
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Current Contest Score: 9/10
Today's Pick: Vercetti.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:15:26 PM | Message Detail
Mac: Yes, you did have Link down as your winner in the topic... sorry, I must have entered that wrong, but it's been changed now. Good catch!

Speaking of different champs, there was a slight mix-up regarding ChibiKuririn's pick to win it all. I fixed it, and now, believe it or not... the Gurus are at a dead heat for Champ predictions!

Cloud - 29 picks
Link - 29 picks


Just when you thought that match couldn't get any better...

anda: I double checked what you entered in the topic, and you did have Kefka down there. In cases like this, I'm going to ask that you post a screen capture of your official bracket. Once I see that, and that you have Knux chosen, I'll make the edit.

If anyone else spots any problems with their bracket as entered, now's the time to let me know about it!

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From: Cavemanbob | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:20:16 PM | Message Detail
Woot! Sixth!
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:24:27 PM | Message Detail
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:25:08 PM | Message Detail
Ngamer64, I noticed a problem with my entry. You say that I have Joe over Tails, when in reality my bracket has it the other way around (as seen in the other Guru topic). Please change to Tails as soon as it's convenient for you.
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From: andaca | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:27:28 PM | Message Detail
Meh. Someone mind telling poor computer illiterate me how to post a screen capture somewhere?
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From: Tarrot | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:27:55 PM | Message Detail
The Originality Award, on the other hand, goes to Tarrot, who went against common opinion a full 12 times.

This is me trying to win with risky picks, ie, I know Crash will lose to Chief, but it's worth it to take the risk as I think Crash just lost to a hot character last year *KOS-MOS, possessing the cult following (Xenogears/saga), Square voters (while Xenosaga wasn't square, XG was and voters/players would carry over), a new game coming out, plus the all important Jug factor*. Plus there's my whole Ryu Hayabusa in the Final Four belief, which is what I'm counting on in order to win, as well as Sephiroth's time to shine.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:31:59 PM | Message Detail
dd: Whoops, so you did. My goodness, I was a little off my game while entering these, it would appear. Still, a few mistakes here and there is to be expected, I suppose, when you're typing in 66 x 63 = um... 4,158 picks.

a: heh, second time tonight I've answered this. But no problem, this is what you do.

Go to bracket. Hit Print Screen on your keyboard. Open Paint. Paste. Save as jpg. Then email me at ngamer@gmail.com, attaching that jpg file.

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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:32:31 PM | Message Detail
so we can view all our brackets then, that's cool

also haha, I wonder if anyone else has my PERFECT call of Jill over Ryu and then losing to Sora. Now that's special.
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From: andaca | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:33:36 PM | Message Detail
Ok, I'm not THAT computer illiterate. I thought you wanted me to post it somewhere (the use of the word "post" threw me off here)... I'll get the email to you ASAP.
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From: andaca | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:34:15 PM | Message Detail
Thanks, by the way.

=D
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From: andaca | Posted: 8/11/2004 6:51:11 PM | Message Detail
Sent, by the way...
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From: cronus striker | Posted: 8/11/2004 10:54:07 PM | Message Detail
NGamer, I just noticed I actually have Crono over Mario in my official bracket. Not sure if I want to prove it though. >_>
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Face it, not a lot of people know who Zero is, yet Tommy got close to the finals last year. - Some loser
From: WiggumFan267 | Posted: 8/12/2004 11:33:24 AM | Message Detail
Tag
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Pick: Zero vs. Protoman. Vote: Protoman. 10/11/192
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/12/2004 11:45:24 AM | Message Detail
Well, assuming the no risk bracket takes the day then my tie breaker will likely put me into 2nd unless voter attendance increases. Second twice in a row, though... that hurts.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/12/2004 8:38:05 PM | Message Detail
Alright, made the change, andaca. Everyone picked both Tommy and Zero, so no changes to the leaderboard just yet. However, we did have three daring picks for Lsnake in today's match, by Wiggum, Rufus, and Darunia. Normally I'd award the points already by this point, but it looks like Frog could still potentially drop the ball on this one, so we'll just have to wait and see what the Day Vote brings about.

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From: WiggumFan267 | Posted: 8/13/2004 6:07:32 AM | Message Detail
Cool.

I'm daring. :D
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/13/2004 6:24:28 PM | Message Detail
Whoa, good thing I waited on that Frog result! Man, never thought it'd end up being such a great match... the closest of the year, wire to wire, I believe. The Gurus as a whole sure lucked out on that one. All except those three Lsnake backers, that is. Well, they have some company, as two people, for some crazy reason, went with Crash in today's match. With MC well over the 70% mark in the early going, I'm just going to reward the rest of us with an early victory for today.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st Ngamer 14
2nd Heroic Mario 14
3rd yoblazer 14
4th tnote 14
5th ChichiriMuyo 14
6th Cavemanbob 14
7th DomaDragoon 14
8th cavedog 14
9th charmander 14
10th Steinershocker 14
11th Vietboizz 14
12th BeTheMan 14
13th TeamRocketElite 14
14th Mac Arrowny 14
15th Garsha 14
16th nifboy 14
17th RamzaB 14
18th Riazar 14
19th Yesmar 14
20th King Morgoth 14
21st Tai 14
22nd UltimaterializerX 14
23rd Lt. Kettch 14
24th KrustytheKlown 14
25th swirldude 14
26th MasterMage 14
27th Haste2 14
28th YokeI 14
29th FrostHarpy 14
30th FastFalcon 14
31st Smurf Thy Legend 14
32nd franmars 14
33rd red sox 14
34th Ringworm 14
35th ps2rulezzz 14
36th fett 14
37th Hogasm 14
38th Fantusta 14
39th cyko 13
40th Bananaquest 13
41st Salient 13
42nd MMXcalibur 13
43rd TyRaNuS 13
44th Sir Chris 13
45th arkenaga 13
46th Alanna 13
47th ExquisiteSamurai 13
48th perdevious 13
49th Aprosenf 13
50th Dilated Chemist 13
51st Z1mZum 13
52nd HaRRicH 13
53rd Qwaar 13
54th irriadin 13
55th steve illumina 13
56th andaca 13
57th TheRye 13
58th Ct. Roy Falcon 13
59th Bocase 13
60th Haunter 13
61st jonthomson 13
62nd WiggumFan 12
63rd Rufus Shinra 12
64th DaruniaTheKing 12
65th ChibiKuririn 12
66th Tarrot 12

38 Brackets still perfect; 57.58%

Yeah, even though 5 messed up these last two days, they were all people in the minority, having already made a mistake before, and so we lose no perfects.

I can't wait for this next stats update... The way Lake performed, you've got to be thinking he was at least close to being the overall bracket favorite in that match. Which is a good thing for us, as there's currently 36 spots on the Top 50 still waiting to be filled with perfect Gurus.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/13/2004 6:36:52 PM | Message Detail
I was more than right! Only 44.33% were smart enough to make Frog their pick yesterday. And, thanks to that low turnout, we welcome our third Guru into the Top 50! Congrats to Ringworm, who joins TRE and nifboy. This ties last Spring's record for most Gurus on the Big Board at once, as there was a time when Ulti, Bananaquest, and myself all could be seen up there, representing to the fullest. And that's what it's all about... Guru pride.

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From: tnote827 | Posted: 8/13/2004 6:38:41 PM | Message Detail
I was in the top 20 up until Vice City derailed my bracket and laid an egg against SSB:M. But then again I also was nothing but a lurker for the Spring Contest =)
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/13/2004 6:38:59 PM | Message Detail
Damn right =)
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/14/2004 6:47:24 PM | Message Detail
Stats up, and I'm happy to say we've set a new record! Yes, we welcome out 4th Guru to the Top 50, in charmander. He was able to sneak in thanks to nearly 25% of brackets siding with Crash in yesterday's match, for some odd reason.

For today we have 61 picks for Knux and only 5 for Kefka... but those 5 are looking pretty good right now, thanks to LC's incredible start. We'll see how long it can last, but in any case, I'm holding off on the Guru update for a while yet.

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From: cronus striker | Posted: 8/15/2004 1:39:35 AM | Message Detail
NGamer, can I submit my tiebreaker? It's 58736, I just found it on my original bracket print-out I made the day the bracket was released and I scrawled my picks all over it =)
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/15/2004 4:04:18 AM | Message Detail
My goodness! This is one of the most impressive Day Vote turnarounds I have ever seen. With Knux looking like he's heading well into 57% territory now, I think it's safe to say that I can update the Rankings without risk. 5 more take a tumble, but luckily for us, only 2 of those had been in the perfect majority beforehand.


The Guru Scoreboard

1st Ngamer 15
2nd Heroic Mario 15
3rd yoblazer 15
4th tnote 15
5th ChichiriMuyo 15
6th Cavemanbob 15
7th DomaDragoon 15
8th cavedog 15
9th charmander 15
10th Steinershocker 15
11th BeTheMan 15
12th TeamRocketElite 15
13th Mac Arrowny 15
14th Garsha 15
15th nifboy 15
16th RamzaB 15
17th Riazar 15
18th Yesmar 15
19th King Morgoth 15
20th Tai 15
21st UltimaterializerX 15
22nd Lt. Kettch 15
23rd KrustytheKlown 15
24th swirldude 15
25th MasterMage 15
26th Haste2 15
27th YokeI 15
28th FrostHarpy 15
29th FastFalcon 15
30th Smurf Thy Legend 15
31st franmars 15
32nd red sox 15
33rd Ringworm 15
34th ps2rulezzz 15
35th Hogasm 15
36th Fantusta 15
37th Vietboizz 14
38th fett 14
39th cyko 14
40th Bananaquest 14
41st Salient 14
42nd MMXcalibur 14
43rd TyRaNuS 14
44th Sir Chris 14
45th arkenaga 14
46th Alanna 14
47th ExquisiteSamurai 14
48th perdevious 14
49th Aprosenf 14
50th Dilated Chemist 14
51st Z1mZum 14
52nd HaRRicH 14
53rd Qwaar 14
54th irriadin 14
55th steve illumina 14
56th andaca 14
57th TheRye 14
58th Ct. Roy Falcon 14
59th Bocase 14
60th Haunter 13
61st jonthomson 13
62nd WiggumFan 13
63rd Rufus Shinra 13
64th DaruniaTheKing 13
65th ChibiKuririn 13
66th Tarrot 12

36 perfect brackets; 54.55%
4 Gurus in the Top 50

And we'll all be gaining a point tonight, following Snake's win. The real question is, will Kefka's defeat be the Contest's second true upset already, in terms of total brackets? I bet it'll be close. If so, that should clear plenty of room for yet more Top 50 Gurus, hurrah!

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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/15/2004 4:13:50 AM | Message Detail
Eh?

I thought I was on that list of gurus... but I went on vacation and had limited access to computers... what do I do?
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/15/2004 4:15:20 AM | Message Detail
I think it'll be around the 50% area when Knuckles wins, and hopefully that'll throw me onto the leaderboard. I'm ready to see my name with Mega Man as my winner up there, heh.
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Fight Mega Man, for everlasting peace!
From: Qwaar | Posted: 8/15/2004 4:50:18 AM | Message Detail
Hrmph.53rd.Damn Tidus!
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From: irriadin | Posted: 8/16/2004 12:57:54 AM | Message Detail
"Hrmph.53rd.Damn Tidus!"

Concur'd

I'm #54 thanks to Tidus.
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Current Contest Score: 14/15
Today's Pick: Solid Snake
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 8/16/2004 3:59:37 PM | Message Detail
Can we declare Snake the winner now?

Oh, and guys, don't worry about being low now. Heck, I was in last place from Day 2 right up until the Elite Eight in the Spring Contest. Things can change quickly.
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From: irriadin | Posted: 8/16/2004 4:06:09 PM | Message Detail
"Can we declare Snake the winner now?"

Are you kidding? Tanner could come back any moment now!
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/17/2004 4:55:04 AM | Message Detail
Everyone was in agreement that Snake and Cloud would be taking these matches the last two days (I should certainly hope so...), and so there have been no changes to the Standings.

What DID get a huge shakeup, however, were the standings site-wide, as Knux taking down Kef was the largest overall upset of the tourney so far. That cleared all kinds of room for new Top 50 members, and it was great to see yet another Guru taking full advantage. DomaDragoon added his name to the Big Board, setting a new standard for most Gurus represented at one time. We are now represented a full 4 times... and since there's room for 32 more of us, I'm expecting to see that number head way skyward, should Vyse pull it off for us tomorrow.

Kind of a neat fact... with our high number of flawless brackets, our modest little Stats Topic group now makes up 4.5% of the remaining Perfect Brackets, worldwide. Should be fun to watch that number climb as we move through this division.

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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 8/17/2004 5:18:18 AM | Message Detail
We are now represented a full 4 times... and since there's room for 32 more of us, I'm expecting to see that number head way skyward, should Vyse pull it off for us tomorrow.

Funny you should say that. Team Rocket Elite, Nifboy, Ringworm, DomaDragoon and charmander6000 all have Laharl winning that match. Those names sound familiar? Those are the five gurus on the top 50. If Vyse does win, all of them will fall. It is kinda interesting, there were only 7 gurus who choose Laharl. Only 5 are still perfect and all 5 are on the top 50.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/17/2004 8:29:42 AM | Message Detail
Whoops, forgot about Ringworm in that last post... that's right, we're at 5 in the Top 50.

And wow, good point, TRE. That's really, really strange. Well, I guess we'll either stay at five, and then have no room for growth the rest of the division, or start over with a fresh listing. Maybe the latter would be better in the long run, since the total perfects is going to tumble to about 400 after that match, 31 of which would be Gurus.

Um... go Vyse?!

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From: Tai | Posted: 8/17/2004 1:21:17 PM | Message Detail
Funny you should say that. Team Rocket Elite, Nifboy, Ringworm, DomaDragoon and charmander6000 all have Laharl winning that match. Those names sound familiar? Those are the five gurus on the top 50. If Vyse does win, all of them will fall. It is kinda interesting, there were only 7 gurus who choose Laharl. Only 5 are still perfect and all 5 are on the top 50.

If enough perfect brackets fall after that match if Vyse should win, 5 other gurus (I hope one of them is me) might be able to replace you..hehe...maybe..maybe not..>_>
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/17/2004 1:30:33 PM | Message Detail
Looks like you're closing in on the Top 50, Tai. Good luck =)
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From: Tai | Posted: 8/17/2004 1:37:56 PM | Message Detail
Thanks, you too. :-)
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From: Blitz Ace the 4th | Posted: 8/17/2004 1:54:25 PM | Message Detail
Can I enter? I'm ranked 30th right now, and my bracket is only different from the guru bracket in that I have DK beating Vivi and Kirby squeaking by Squall.
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From: Qwaar | Posted: 8/18/2004 12:07:06 AM | Message Detail
Hopefully I'll step up because I have Vyse :D
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From: Fett0001 | Posted: 8/18/2004 1:32:22 PM | Message Detail
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/18/2004 6:34:27 PM | Message Detail
And Vyse takes it! And, since Kirby is sitting comfortably above the 65% mark right now (and I can't imagine Kain winning the Day Vote), I'm going to award points for this latest match as well. Not that it matters much, as we kicked it to the Kirb.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st Ngamer 19
2nd Heroic Mario 19
3rd yoblazer 19
4th tnote 19
5th ChichiriMuyo 19
6th Cavemanbob 19
7th cavedog 19
8th Steinershocker 19
9th BeTheMan 19
10th Mac Arrowny 19
11th Garsha 19
12th RamzaB 19
13th Riazar 19
14th Yesmar 19
15th King Morgoth 19
16th Tai 19
17th UltimaterializerX 19
18th Lt. Kettch 19
19th KrustytheKlown 19
20th swirldude 19
21st MasterMage 19
22nd Haste2 19
23rd YokeI 19
24th FrostHarpy 19
25th FastFalcon 19
26th Smurf Thy Legend 19
27th franmars 19
28th red sox 19
29th ps2rulezzz 19
30th Hogasm 19
31st Fantusta 19
32nd DomaDragoon 18
33rd charmander 18
34th TeamRocketElite 18
35th nifboy 18
36th Ringworm 18
37th Vietboizz 18
38th fett 18
39th cyko 18
40th Bananaquest 18
41st Salient 18
42nd MMXcalibur 18
43rd TyRaNuS 18
44th Sir Chris 18
45th arkenaga 18
46th Alanna 18
47th ExquisiteSamurai 18
48th perdevious 18
49th Aprosenf 18
50th Dilated Chemist 18
51st Z1mZum 18
52nd HaRRicH 18
53rd Qwaar 18
54th irriadin 18
55th steve illumina 18
56th andaca 18
57th TheRye 18
58th Ct. Roy Falcon 18
59th Bocase 18
60th Haunter 17
61st WiggumFan 17
62nd Rufus Shinra 17
63rd DaruniaTheKing 17
64th ChibiKuririn 17
65th jonthomson 16
66th Tarrot 15

31 Perfects remain; 46.97%

That Vyse win hurt us less than it did the non-Guru Perfects, as with 31 out of the 640 remaining flawless brackets, we've risen to representing 4.84% of them. However, as TRE brought up a few posts back, this result just KILLED us in terms of the Top 50. All 5 Gurus who were there picked wrongly, and to make matters worse, not a single new Guru moved up to replace them! Looking bad right now, true, but on the bright side we're sure to see many of those remaining 31 start popping up over the course of the next few days. If Ness is able to take down Jak, I imagine the Big Board will suddenly be swimming in Gurus once again.

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From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/18/2004 9:33:29 PM | Message Detail
65th jonthomson 16
66th Tarrot 15


Ouch... Jak had better win :-)
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From: Blitz Ace the 4th | Posted: 8/19/2004 7:44:14 AM | Message Detail
I want to enter, I've moved up to #22.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/19/2004 7:46:04 AM | Message Detail
Lookin' good, lookin' good.
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 8/20/2004 12:19:49 AM | Message Detail
Hey, I'm just happy I made the top 50. Did happen in 2K3, but don't think I made it during spring.

I KNEW Laharl was a mistake, but I decided this year not to change my bracket. If I had of checked it before the entries closed, I probably would've changed it. Oh well, after Jak beats Ness, I'll be happy :)

Seriously, I won't be winning this contest, and I don't really care. I hope we can repeat the success of last time though, and hopefully we'll get over 5 top 50 people by the end of Rd 1.
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From: Shake X | Posted: 8/20/2004 12:23:13 AM | Message Detail
I didn't enter this time, but I'm happy to report we have at least an 'Ex-Guru' at position 48. We'll dominate that list before long.


:p


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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/20/2004 2:26:08 AM | Message Detail
And with Squall currently going to town on Bomberman, I'm just going to award us all the next point early. Kirby's win yesterday was also the unanimous choice but, strangely enough, a decent amount of the non-Guru perfects had trouble calling it. That increased our % of Perfection up to a nice 5.21%.

Regardless of what happens tomorrow, things are going to be shaken way up. Should Ness walk out a winner, 19 of the 31 Perfect Gurus will go home happy. But if Jak takes him out, that still leaves 12 of us looking flawless. An excellent split, and I'm fully expecting to see a few Gurus up into the Top 50 regardless of the outcome.

Blitz/anyone else: The whole point of the Gurus is that we are the "experts," that is, the people who post in-depth discussion about all things Contest both in and out of season in the Stats topic. It's not a closed list, however, and anyone can join if they'd like to... as long as they do it in the stats topic, before the brackets lock down. I'm glad you want to get involved, now that you've seen how things are run. We look forward to competing with you this Spring.

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From: tnote827 | Posted: 8/20/2004 5:25:55 AM | Message Detail
Only 12 of 31 perfects have Jak? Uh-oh... Ness looks like a total dweeb though, so I guess I at least have a moderate chance...
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From: Tai | Posted: 8/21/2004 3:01:14 AM | Message Detail
Looks like Ness is going to win. Yay :-)
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/21/2004 3:02:43 AM | Message Detail
Looks like we'll be losing 12 perfect brackets from the Guru list today.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/21/2004 3:03:21 AM | Message Detail
Ness needs to win; 52nd out of 66 isn't exactly the position to be.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/21/2004 3:25:22 AM | Message Detail
And with a 2500+ lead and rising, I'd say it's finally safe to say

Ness wins! Ness wins!

Huzzah for my bracket! But alot of other Gurus take a hit from this one. Let's see how things ended up going down.


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1st Ngamer 21
2nd Heroic Mario 21
3rd ChichiriMuyo 21
4th Steinershocker 21
5th BeTheMan 21
6th Mac Arrowny 21
7th King Morgoth 21
8th Tai 21
9th UltimaterializerX 21
10th KrustytheKlown 21
11th MasterMage 21
12th Haste2 21
13th YokeI 21
14th FastFalcon 21
15th Smurf Thy Legend 21
16th red sox 21
17th ps2rulezzz 21
18th Hogasm 21
19th Fantusta 21
20th yoblazer 20
21st tnote 20
22nd Cavemanbob 20
23rd cavedog 20
24th Garsha 20
25th RamzaB 20
26th Riazar 20
27th Yesmar 20
28th Lt. Kettch 20
29th swirldude 20
30th FrostHarpy 20
31st franmars 20
32nd DomaDragoon 20
33rd TeamRocketElite 20
34th Vietboizz 20
35th fett 20
36th cyko 20
37th MMXcalibur 20
38th TyRaNuS 20
39th Alanna 20
40th ExquisiteSamurai 20
41st perdevious 20
42nd Z1mZum 20
43rd HaRRicH 20
44th Qwaar 20
45th andaca 20
46th TheRye 20
47th Ct. Roy Falcon 20
48th charmander 19
49th nifboy 19
50th Ringworm 19
51st Bananaquest 19
52nd Salient 19
53rd Sir Chris 19
54th arkenaga 19
55th Aprosenf 19
56th Dilated Chemist 19
57th irriadin 19
58th steve illumina 19
59th Bocase 19
60th Haunter 19
61st DaruniaTheKing 19
62nd ChibiKuririn 19
63rd WiggumFan 18
64th Rufus Shinra 18
65th jonthomson 17
66th Tarrot 16

19 Perfects remain; 28.79%

Good stuff, but the real question is, how many spots in the Top 50 did this victory earn for the Gurus? I'd be willing to bet it was a couple at least, but we'll find out tonight.

In other news, this is the second time now that we have defeated the Board Odds in a head to head matchup! The Board was of the impression that Shadow would be taking down Tidus, and Jake would be doing away with Ness. Gurus 2, Board 0. We can complete the sweep with a victory for Cloud in the Championship.

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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/21/2004 3:26:27 AM | Message Detail
I have to get on that leaderboard tonight.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/21/2004 3:27:23 AM | Message Detail
We can complete the sweep with a victory for Cloud in the Championship.

...or Mega Man. =p
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From: Ma Chao the Wanderer | Posted: 8/21/2004 3:37:55 AM | Message Detail
Go me!
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From: Tai | Posted: 8/21/2004 7:52:11 AM | Message Detail
8th place! Yay.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/21/2004 7:55:06 AM | Message Detail
1st Ngamer 21
2nd Heroic Mario 21
3rd ChichiriMuyo 21
4th Steinershocker 21
5th BeTheMan 21
6th Mac Arrowny 21
7th King Morgoth 21
8th Tai 21
9th UltimaterializerX 21
10th KrustytheKlown 21
11th MasterMage 21
12th Haste2 21
13th YokeI 21
14th FastFalcon 21
15th Smurf Thy Legend 21
16th red sox 21
17th ps2rulezzz 21
18th Hogasm 21
19th Fantusta 21

Are any of those users in the Top 50 right now? I would imagine that we'll be down to less than 300 perfect brackets after today's match.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/21/2004 7:57:19 AM | Message Detail
I hope I'm up there later tonight.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/21/2004 11:07:54 AM | Message Detail
So, how many of the remaining perfects now have DK over Vivi?

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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/21/2004 4:46:35 PM | Message Detail
I have Vivi...
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/21/2004 4:47:58 PM | Message Detail
I know that Tai and I have DK, but I don't know about anyone else.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/21/2004 6:21:59 PM | Message Detail
Oh, look at that, a shakeup indeed. Only 54.16% knew Ness was going to beat Jak yesterday, lowering the number of Perfects dramatically, to just 313. Of course, we lost 12 Perfects ourselves... but in the end we still made out better than the non-expert perfects, as we raised the Guru Representation percentage to a solid 6.07%.

This opened up some room in the Top 50 as well, and I'm happy to report that at least one Guru managed to take advantage. Congrats to Mac Arrowny, our new, lone representative on the Big Board.

And now, looking ahead to tomorrow's huge Vivi/DK showdown. There are 19 perfects remaining, remember, and...

If Vivi wins, 13 will survive.

If DK wins, 6 will survive. Those 6 risk-takers are Tai, Ulti, Krusty, Haste, FastFalcon, and Hogasm.

Will feel strange having to root against Nintendo, for my bracket's sake. The Squareheads had better not let me down on this one, or else.

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/21/2004 6:37:35 PM | Message Detail
w00t! I knew that filling out my bracket on the first day would help me out! I'm starting to get a bit antsy about HK-47 vs. Sora, though.
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 8/21/2004 6:42:32 PM | Message Detail
You finished your bracket on the first day? Since you are ranked 49th, that means everybody on the top 50 also finished their bracket on the first day. That's about 1 in 6 perfects. I wonder why that is.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/21/2004 6:44:42 PM | Message Detail
I think Board 8 regulars are mainly the ones that spend a good amount of time nit-picking and changing things up (guilty as charged right here). Most others just fill the bracket out and leave it alone.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/21/2004 6:45:06 PM | Message Detail
Well, as far as I remember I did. It was certainly within the first 24 hours. I created it within a couple hours of the bracket being revealed, and I think that I uploaded it several hours after you could make them. What time of day was access granted?
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 8/21/2004 6:54:54 PM | Message Detail
I think GameFAQs started accepting brackets around 6:30pm PST on July 1st.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/21/2004 7:03:40 PM | Message Detail
Hmm, it should've been only a few hours after that then. Maybe I did change something, but I'm pretty sure I never did anything after the first 24 hours.
From: Tai | Posted: 8/22/2004 4:10:09 AM | Message Detail
IF DK wins, there is no way I'm not on the Top 50 on Tuesday.
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From: Qwaar | Posted: 8/22/2004 7:28:07 AM | Message Detail
So I'm up to 44th now.Nice.Tomorrow's match is worrying me though.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/22/2004 6:24:36 PM | Message Detail
Vivi has just pushed his % up near the 56 mark, but it's still early, and so it remains to be seen if he is just a stronger version of Kefka. I don't think so, myself, but I DO think that Vivi had better be dang sure to keep extending that lead if he wants to survive the Day Vote.

Well, only 70.14% knew Auron would demolish Scorpion like he did yesterday. 37 of those confused by the result had formerly been perfect, which boosted the Gurus making up the Top 50 Percentage to 6.88%. All of those mistakes cleared the way for some new names atop the Big Board, and I was very excited to see that not one but two Gurus made the most of the opportunity. Congrats to Smurf and FastFalcon, who join Mac in bolstering our Guru representation back up to a healthy 3.

Unfortunately, not all of them will last the day, as Falc picked DK in this match. Still, I feel certain that the 13 Gurus still flawless (all assuming a Vivi win here) will go on to make a good showing of things up atop the big listing.

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From: MMXcalibur | Posted: 8/22/2004 6:28:03 PM | Message Detail
Um....I had Tails over Viewtiful Joe as my pick.
You have it backwards.

I want to be given that point when Miles wins.

kthxbie.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/22/2004 6:35:02 PM | Message Detail
Just checked against the archived copy of the bracket topic, and so you did, MMX, my mistake. It's been fixed now. Even with that change, an impressive 74.24% of the Gurus are going with Joe in that matchup.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/23/2004 2:14:51 AM | Message Detail
Well, the Morning Vote has arrived and, as it turns out... the kiddies like Vivi as well. DK is making a better showing of it than he did in the latenight, but has still not been able to break even in votes and stop the bleeding. With the gap now marching steadily toward 3000, I am officially declaring Vivi the winner of the match. Now let's see how this affects the standings, whoooo!


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st Ngamer 23
2nd Heroic Mario 23
3rd ChichiriMuyo 23
4th Steinershocker 23
5th BeTheMan 23
6th Mac Arrowny 23
7th King Morgoth 23
8th MasterMage 23
9th YokeI 23
10th Smurf Thy Legend 23
11th red sox 23
12th ps2rulezzz 23
13th Fantusta 23
14th Tai 22
15th UltimaterializerX 22
16th KrustytheKlown 22
17th Haste2 22
18th FastFalcon 22
19th Hogasm 22
20th tnote 22
21st cavedog 22
22nd Garsha 22
23rd RamzaB 22
24th Riazar 22
25th Yesmar 22
26th Lt. Kettch 22
27th FrostHarpy 22
28th franmars 22
29th DomaDragoon 22
30th Vietboizz 22
31st fett 22
32nd cyko 22
33rd MMXcalibur 22
34th TyRaNuS 22
35th ExquisiteSamurai 22
36th Z1mZum 22
37th HaRRicH 22
38th Alanna 22
39th Qwaar 22
40th andaca 22
41st TheRye 22
42nd Ct. Roy Falcon 22
43rd yoblazer 21
44th Cavemanbob 21
45th swirldude 21
46th TeamRocketElite 21
47th perdevious 21
48th nifboy 21
49th Ringworm 21
50th Bananaquest 21
51st Salient 21
52nd Sir Chris 21
53rd arkenaga 21
54th Aprosenf 21
55th irriadin 21
56th steve illumina 21
57th Bocase 21
58th Haunter 21
59th charmander 20
60th Dilated Chemist 20
61st DaruniaTheKing 20
62nd ChibiKuririn 20
63rd Rufus Shinra 20
64th WiggumFan 19
65th jonthomson 18
66th Tarrot 18

13 Perfects Remain; 19.70%


FF characters always get predicted by plenty, but I think DK may have had the name recognition to turn this into our third true upset of the first round, sitewide. If so, that's very good news for the 13 Vivi pickers, as with remaining perfects about to fall to 150ish, there's going to be all kinds of room in the Top 50.

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From: TheRye | Posted: 8/23/2004 6:07:32 PM | Message Detail
Oh man, if Jill wins, all hell will break loose...
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From: iGenesis | Posted: 8/23/2004 6:20:21 PM | Message Detail
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/23/2004 6:24:23 PM | Message Detail
After a slow, anti-FF7 start, Seph is right back on track and well over the 80% mark. No surprise there, as we all agreed he would take this. The real news of the day is the shocking number just put up by Donkey Kong. But not in final percent... I'm talking prediction percentage. Only 35.13% thought he would lose to Vivi! The Perfects weren't much smarter, as their number nosedived from 276 all the way to 127.

About the only group to call this one were us Gurus, and it showed, as our % of Perfect Population took a huge jump to 10.24%! There was all kinds of turnaround on the Top 50 as well, where about half of the old listing dropped off. That made room for two new Gurus to take the stand, namely Steinershocker and red sox. This raises our representation to 4, one off the record. But you know what they say: records were made to be broken. And with 9 more Gurus waiting in the wings with perfect brackets, things are looking mighty good for that record to be shattered.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/23/2004 6:29:47 PM | Message Detail
iGen, I'm going to repeat what I said to BlitzAce (who, by the way, was one of the many to bite the bullet on Vivi) earlier this week, a few posts back.


The whole point of the Gurus is that we are the "experts," that is, the people who post in-depth discussion about all things Contest both in and out of season in the Stats topic. It's not a closed list, however, and anyone can join if they would like to... as long as they do it in the stats topic, before the brackets lock down. I'm glad you want to get involved, now that you've seen how things are run. We look forward to competing with you this Spring.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 8/23/2004 10:18:54 PM | Message Detail
Wow, only 34%, that's pretty low. But I would have hoped I could reach a top 50 spot after that. Now I have to hope many perfects went with the higher seed of Kos-mos. If not I may never see the top 50 because I have tails and the guru's have VJ, and have never been on the wrong side so far.
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From: Ma Chao the Wanderer | Posted: 8/24/2004 12:26:09 AM | Message Detail
*dances*

Y'know what? I'm going to let you keep Mario as my pick in Mario vs. Crono, even though my bracket has Crono. I need to go against consensus right?
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/24/2004 12:31:47 PM | Message Detail
I can't wait until Tails' loss weeds out several more brackets.

Heck, even Ryu's win will, but that won't be a big shocker around here.
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From: Qwaar | Posted: 8/24/2004 12:35:47 PM | Message Detail
*Cheers*

I'm steadily moving up the Guru ranks.39th now.
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From: Shdwdde | Posted: 8/24/2004 12:39:54 PM | Message Detail
What the hell? I should be in this.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/24/2004 2:38:10 PM | Message Detail
Don't worry, I'll be on the leaderboard sometime...
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/24/2004 2:45:03 PM | Message Detail
You know what sucks for me? I wish I woulda known that Viewtiful Joe was gonna be released on the PS2 three days before his match.

You know what rocks for me? Auron's ass-kicking of Scorpion and Alucard's strong showing against Ganondorf very well could be good signs for Tails, giving the two-tailed fox a fighting chance.

...I'm so confused. Go Tails.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/24/2004 2:48:58 PM | Message Detail
You can't mess with something that is so Viewtiful! Go Joe!
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 8/24/2004 4:02:11 PM | Message Detail
Harrich let's stay confident in our picks of Tails. We need it to let people think Tails may have a chance. And if he does win, we showed we our confidence, and will think we are good predictors :D
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From: red sox 777 | Posted: 8/24/2004 4:05:33 PM | Message Detail
Go Tails!
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From: Sins Tox1n | Posted: 8/24/2004 4:23:46 PM | Message Detail
Who has what on Ryu-Jill, and VJ-Tails?
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/24/2004 10:37:33 PM | Message Detail
Neither of those two matches are all that much in doubt, from a Guru perspective. In addition, we're considerably more confident in our picks of Joe and Ryu than the Board. Here's the stats.

V. Joe 49 74.24%
Tails 17 25.76%

A 4.49% confidence boost from the 69.75% the Board picked him with.

Ryu (NG) 62 93.94%
Jill 4 6.06%

A huge 7.27% confidence boost from the 86.67% the Board was thinking.

Within the Perfects, there are a surprising 5 picks for Tails. Those daredevils are Mac, MasterMage, Smurf, red sox, and ps2. Given the near 3/4 margin Joe was taken with overall, I have to admit that it's a bit unnerving to see him only a 8-5 underdog in Perfect Land... But I don't doubt that in the end, the Guru majority will see me through yet again.

The only Perfect Jill supporter is red sox. So, should Tails come through for him, he would stand alone atop the mountain should yet another surprising upset occur.

It stands to be noted that though only 4 think Jill can pull the 14/3 upset, all 4 of those folks think she'll win right on through, taking down Sora or HK in Round Two.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/25/2004 1:21:38 AM | Message Detail
And Sonic is well on his way to winning this one in a laugher. But, as would be expected, we all thought this would happen in this 1/16 matchup, and so nothing changes. Of note is the fact that for the first time we lost not a single Perfect yesterday, with all 127 taking Seph over whatever that thing was. So, no changes to our Perfection % or anything. Ah well... KOS/Ryu will be sure to make things interesting, at least.

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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/25/2004 9:07:49 PM | Message Detail
I'm confident in the guru's confidence. Perfect first round here I come!
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/25/2004 10:48:15 PM | Message Detail
Wow, I just realized that there are four people with the Cookie Cutter Bracket yet I'm the only one with the Cookie Cutter AND Link over Cloud...
Now all I need is a lot of luck!
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From: TheRye | Posted: 8/25/2004 10:50:27 PM | Message Detail
Prediction stats on KOS/Ryu?
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From: Forceful Dragon | Posted: 8/25/2004 10:54:17 PM | Message Detail
When were sign ups for this thing? what are the stakes? Cause even though I dont ahve a perfect(sig) I'd still like to join >_<. any chance of that happening?
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 8/25/2004 11:01:07 PM | Message Detail
You have to have signed up for it in the stats topic BEFORE it started. Two other people were already turned down from joining now, I doubt it will be different for you. And to everyone else in this topic, after Tails vs Joe, let's just say there will only be five perfects left in this little contest of ours =P
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/25/2004 11:05:47 PM | Message Detail
"let's just say there will only be five perfects left in this little contest of ours =P"

You've clearly spelt eight wrong.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/25/2004 11:09:11 PM | Message Detail
KOS/Ryu stats? You sure you want to see those? Because let me warn you- they ain't pretty.

Ryu (SF) 65 98.48%
KOS-MOS 1 1.52%

A stunning 9.91% confidence increase from the Board, who gave KOS at least a tiny shred of hope, at 88.57%.

And Fdrag, I will once again copy/paste my standard explanation paragraph, this time with boldings for important parts.

"The whole point of the Gurus is that we are the "experts," that is, the people who post in-depth discussion about all things Contest both in and out of season in the Stats topic. It's not a closed list, however, and anyone can join if they would like to... as long as they do it in the stats topic, before the brackets lock down. I'm glad you want to get involved, now that you've seen how things are run. We look forward to competing with you this Spring."

The 'bet' or award is that all 65 losers have to praise the Guru Champ in their sigs for a month or so after the Contest ends, just as you most likely saw us doing for Ulti after the FF7 victory.

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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 8/25/2004 11:15:04 PM | Message Detail
You've clearly spelt eight wrong.

No, that isn't how you spell five.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/27/2004 1:22:57 AM | Message Detail
Wow, great start to the Joe/Tails match. We'll see how this ends up playing out.

In the meantime, the Perfects took a pretty decent hit over KOS-MOS, dropping to just 106. But none of the top Gurus were fooled, and so our percent rises yet again, to 12.26%.

Well, either 8 or 5 will remain 23.5 hours from now. Which will it be? Stay tuned.

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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 8/27/2004 1:23:31 AM | Message Detail
It will be 5. People can change the channel.
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 8/27/2004 8:40:50 AM | Message Detail
Hey, I'm proud to be the only one that picked KOS-MOS. Would of been good if an upset happened :)

It was a mistake to be honest. I realised when I checked my bracket it wasn't what I meant to choose. I was sure I had Ryu, but oh well. Not like I'll be winning anyway. That's what happens when you decide not to change your bracket - you make mistakes. I decided to keep it as I knew it was only worth 1 point.

Least I got Tails right, so I'll catch up a bit to most people. Having Tails beat Dante too might be pushing my luck a bit though. We'll see.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/27/2004 1:48:08 PM | Message Detail
What a sad day to be a Guru. ARRRRRRRG. Anyways, new standings.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st Mac Arrowny 26
2nd MasterMage 26
3rd Smurf Thy Legend 26
4th red sox 26
5th ps2rulezzz 26
6th Ngamer 25
7th Heroic Mario 25
8th ChichiriMuyo 25
9th Steinershocker 25
10th BeTheMan 25
11th King Morgoth 25
12th YokeI 25
13th Fantusta 25
14th cavedog 25
15th Yesmar 25
16th DomaDragoon 25
17th MMXcalibur 25
18th HaRRicH 25
19th Tai 24
20th UltimaterializerX 24
21st KrustytheKlown 24
22nd Haste2 24
23rd FastFalcon 24
24th Hogasm 24
25th tnote 24
26th Garsha 24
27th RamzaB 24
28th Riazar 24
29th Lt. Kettch 24
30th FrostHarpy 24
31st franmars 24
32nd Vietboizz 24
33rd fett 24
34th cyko 24
35th TyRaNuS 24
36th ExquisiteSamurai 24
37th Z1mZum 24
38th Alanna 24
39th Qwaar 24
40th andaca 24
41st TheRye 24
42nd Ct. Roy Falcon 24
43rd perdevious 24
44th nifboy 24
45th Ringworm 24
46th Bananaquest 24
47th arkenaga 24
48th Haunter 24
49th yoblazer 23
50th Cavemanbob 23
51st swirldude 23
52nd TeamRocketElite 23
53rd Salient 23
54th Sir Chris 23
55th Aprosenf 23
56th irriadin 23
57th steve illumina 23
58th Bocase 23
59th DaruniaTheKing 23
60th charmander 22
61st Dilated Chemist 22
62nd ChibiKuririn 22
63rd Rufus Shinra 22
64th WiggumFan 21
65th jonthomson 20
66th Tarrot 20

5 Perfects remain; 7.28%

On a brighter note, we're sure to have all of those 5 in the Top 50. And, if my prediction is correct, we're even going to see some non-Perfects at the bottom of the Big Board by the time this is over. Meaning, look out for the return of old favorites, like Doma. Too bad TRE has messed up so bad lately, or I'd say we'd be sure to have 6 in the 50 tonight.

PS - I hate Tails so much.

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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 8/27/2004 1:53:26 PM | Message Detail
Wait, since when am I a favourite?
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From: TheRye | Posted: 8/27/2004 2:21:38 PM | Message Detail
Wouldn't a perfect be 27 including the Viewtiful Joe/Tails match?
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/27/2004 5:28:09 PM | Message Detail
Whoops, good catch almost-Ryu. I forgot to run it for the KOS match. Here's the new standings.


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1st Mac Arrowny 27
2nd MasterMage 27
3rd Smurf Thy Legend 27
4th red sox 27
5th ps2rulezzz 27
6th Ngamer 26
7th Heroic Mario 26
8th ChichiriMuyo 26
9th Steinershocker 26
10th BeTheMan 26
11th King Morgoth 26
12th YokeI 26
13th Fantusta 26
14th cavedog 26
15th Yesmar 26
16th DomaDragoon 26
17th MMXcalibur 26
18th HaRRicH 26
19th Tai 25
20th UltimaterializerX 25
21st KrustytheKlown 25
22nd Haste2 25
23rd FastFalcon 25
24th Hogasm 25
25th tnote 25
26th Garsha 25
27th RamzaB 25
28th Riazar 25
29th Lt. Kettch 25
30th FrostHarpy 25
31st franmars 25
32nd Vietboizz 25
33rd fett 25
34th cyko 25
35th TyRaNuS 25
36th ExquisiteSamurai 25
37th Z1mZum 25
38th Alanna 25
39th Qwaar 25
40th andaca 25
41st TheRye 25
42nd Ct. Roy Falcon 25
43rd perdevious 25
44th nifboy 25
45th Bananaquest 25
46th arkenaga 25
47th Haunter 25
48th Ringworm 24
49th yoblazer 24
50th Cavemanbob 24
51st swirldude 24
52nd TeamRocketElite 24
53rd Salient 24
54th Sir Chris 24
55th Aprosenf 24
56th irriadin 24
57th steve illumina 24
58th Bocase 24
59th DaruniaTheKing 24
60th charmander 23
61st Dilated Chemist 23
62nd ChibiKuririn 23
63rd Rufus Shinra 23
64th WiggumFan 22
65th jonthomson 21
66th Tarrot 21

And Doma, you're not a favorite, you just submitted your bracket the earliest (behind TRE). And you've only made one mistake, so you'll be back on the Leaderboard the soonest. That's what I meant.

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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 8/27/2004 5:29:33 PM | Message Detail
I can't believe Joe lost.
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From: ShyGuyOnStilts | Posted: 8/27/2004 5:32:35 PM | Message Detail
Go Tails....GO TAILS........IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY!
:D
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From: TheRye | Posted: 8/28/2004 2:12:28 AM | Message Detail
Perhaps for catching that I could be moved to like 20th place instead of 41st
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I GOTTA HAVE MORE COWBELL; Contest: 25/27
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/28/2004 2:13:12 AM | Message Detail
Congrats to MasterMage and ps2, who surge into the Top 50 on the strength of the Tails win, taking our Guru representation count up to 5. Even though that ties our highest number ever, things didn't improve all that much in terms of % of Perfects being Gurus, as it rose only the slightest bit to 12.50%.

And wow, is Dante ever pounding him right now. But will we see another Ratchet Rebound this year, as was pulled off against Luigi? Let's wait and see.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 8/28/2004 3:26:20 PM | Message Detail
Couldn't be better for me today. Yop 50 place and finally got in top 5 in oracle.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/29/2004 1:24:47 AM | Message Detail
...Damn. Looks like my perfect disappears. Oh well, I've been nervous about this match for the entire contest, and Sora over HK is the one change that I would've made. If Yoshi takes it over Luigi I can get back on the leaderboard, and hopefully no perfects have the same bracket as me from here on out...although, mine is pretty cookie-cutter. It'll be extremely depressing to see the prediction percentage over 80 on this match. Do you think it'll make 90%?
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/29/2004 1:25:00 AM | Message Detail
85% were smart enough to take Dante yesterday, but surprisingly enough one of those to go against it was a former perfect. That raises us to 5/39, or 12.82%. And for today, Sora has this thing way, way in the bag already. The Gurus were expecting this overall, BUT, 5 folks did give their backing to HK... including former Perfect, Mac Arrowny! So here's the new standings.


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1st MasterMage 29
2nd Smurf Thy Legend 29
3rd red sox 29
4th ps2rulezzz 29
5th Ngamer 28
6th Mac Arrowny 28
7th Heroic Mario 28
8th ChichiriMuyo 28
9th Steinershocker 28
10th BeTheMan 28
11th King Morgoth 28
12th YokeI 28
13th Fantusta 28
14th cavedog 28
15th Yesmar 28
16th MMXcalibur 28
17th HaRRicH 28
18th DomaDragoon 27
19th Tai 27
20th UltimaterializerX 27
21st KrustytheKlown 27
22nd Haste2 27
23rd FastFalcon 27
24th Hogasm 27
25th tnote 27
26th RamzaB 27
27th Riazar 27
28th Lt. Kettch 27
29th FrostHarpy 27
30th franmars 27
31st Vietboizz 27
32nd cyko 27
33rd TyRaNuS 27
34th ExquisiteSamurai 27
35th Z1mZum 27
36th Alanna 27
37th Qwaar 27
38th andaca 27
39th TheRye 27
40th Ct. Roy Falcon 27
41st nifboy 27
42nd Bananaquest 27
43rd arkenaga 27
44th Haunter 27
45th Garsha 26
46th fett 26
47th perdevious 26
48th Ringworm 26
49th yoblazer 26
50th Cavemanbob 26
51st swirldude 26
52nd TeamRocketElite 26
53rd Salient 26
54th Sir Chris 26
55th Aprosenf 26
56th irriadin 26
57th steve illumina 26
58th Bocase 26
59th DaruniaTheKing 25
60th charmander 25
61st Dilated Chemist 25
62nd ChibiKuririn 25
63rd Rufus Shinra 25
64th WiggumFan 24
65th jonthomson 23
66th Tarrot 22

Meaning we're down to just 4 on the Big Board come tomorrow... who will be the one to step up, take us back to 5?

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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 8/29/2004 1:28:17 AM | Message Detail
It's not over yet! There's still hope for HK!

Eh, whatever.
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From: Qwaar | Posted: 8/29/2004 1:32:56 AM | Message Detail
I'm annoyed that Joe lost, but i'm still doing pretty well.Overall very chuffed with the contest so far.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/29/2004 10:47:11 PM | Message Detail
It stands to be noted that though only 4 think Jill can pull the 14/3 upset, all 4 of those folks think she'll win right on through, taking down Sora or HK in Round Two.

hehe, actually, no, I have Sora winning against Jill in round two, if you tell me how I can post a link to a screen capture, I gladly will. : )
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/30/2004 8:29:58 PM | Message Detail
Whoops, sorry about that Fal, I misread on my stats. There's actually 5 picks for Jill in this match; I missed Smurf's. But yes, you are indeed the only one to turn your back on her in the Sora match.

Speaking of which, ARG! Ryu was just about to make a whole lot of Gurus happy, as he had opened up an unbeatable 700+ lead with 4.5 hours to go, but now CJay has decided to re-do the poll because of a glitch. I'm not worried that this is going to in any way help Jill, just a little upset about having to wait an extra 24 hours for the same result.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 8/31/2004 5:41:54 AM | Message Detail
Jill has a 700+ lead now...
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 8/31/2004 6:15:51 PM | Message Detail
Which was to be expected, since she pulled out to 500+ in a match with fewer votes cast.

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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/1/2004 1:11:27 AM | Message Detail
I feel very badly for us five : (

27 votes
just 27 votes
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From: Qwaar | Posted: 9/1/2004 1:13:18 AM | Message Detail
I wonder what position i'm in now....hopefully in the 20s.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/1/2004 7:42:00 AM | Message Detail
And, by the closest margin in Contest history, Ryu makes a whole lot of Gurus very happy! Yes, those 5 are indeed hurt, but the other 61 of us are loving this. Well, Gordon's making a good show of it today, but is going to end up losing once again. Surprisingly enough, there WERE a few Gurus to pick him, so things are going to be shaken up on the standings more than you might expect.

I'll have those up in a little bit here.

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From: cyko | Posted: 9/1/2004 7:47:16 AM | Message Detail
i wanna know who picked Gordon, lol.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/1/2004 7:53:38 AM | Message Detail
Vietboizz, exquistitesamurai, Garsha, ringworm, andaca and chibikuririn took Gordon to win.
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28/28 points in sc2004
tomorrow's pick: Ryu H.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/1/2004 9:37:18 AM | Message Detail
Meaning, we actually gave Gordon a better chance at winning than Jill. Um... GFNW, boys? That's pretty strange. Oh well, less than half of the people saw this coming, which is good... but the bad news is, only half of our own Perfects were right on this one, as well. Dang. That severely hurts our %s, as we're down to 2/66 Perfects (3.03%), and 2/25 Perfects left anywhere (8.00%). From 5 just a few days back we've dropped to our lowest Top 50 representation in a long while, with just those same two getting their names up.

But it's not all gloom and doom, as today's result is sure to give at least 30 non-Perfects room on the Big Board. And as that number grows, we should be there to take advantage of it: there's a full 15 Gurus just a step away from Perfect. But, lets get on with it, shall we?


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st MasterMage 31
2nd ps2rulezzz 31
3rd Ngamer 30
4th Smurf Thy Legend 30
5th red sox 30
6th Mac Arrowny 30
7th Heroic Mario 30
8th ChichiriMuyo 30
9th Steinershocker 30
10th BeTheMan 30
11th King Morgoth 30
12th YokeI 30
13th Fantusta 30
14th cavedog 30
15th Yesmar 30
16th MMXcalibur 30
17th HaRRicH 30
18th DomaDragoon 29
19th Tai 29
20th UltimaterializerX 29
21st KrustytheKlown 29
22nd Haste2 29
23rd Hogasm 29
24th tnote 29
25th RamzaB 29
26th Riazar 29
27th Lt. Kettch 29
28th FrostHarpy 29
29th franmars 29
30th cyko 29
31st TyRaNuS 29
32nd Z1mZum 29
33rd Alanna 29
34th Qwaar 29
35th Ct. Roy Falcon 29
36th nifboy 29
37th Bananaquest 29
38th arkenaga 29
39th Haunter 29
40th FastFalcon 28
41st Vietboizz 28
42nd ExquisiteSamurai 28
43rd andaca 28
44th TheRye 28
45th fett 28
46th perdevious 28
47th yoblazer 28
48th Cavemanbob 28
49th swirldude 28
50th TeamRocketElite 28
51st Salient 28
52nd Sir Chris 28
53rd Aprosenf 28
54th irriadin 28
55th steve illumina 28
56th Bocase 28
57th Garsha 27
58th Ringworm 27
59th DaruniaTheKing 27
60th Dilated Chemist 27
61st Rufus Shinra 27
62nd charmander 26
63rd ChibiKuririn 26
64th WiggumFan 26
65th jonthomson 25
66th Tarrot 24

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/1/2004 9:41:13 AM | Message Detail
And now I have a question for you, ExquisiteSamurai. Why did you submit a bracket to me that looked like this:

From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 7/31/2004 6:23:30 PM | Message Detail
Round 1:

Link
Ganondorf
Yoshi
Luigi
Magus
Crono
Bowser
Mario

Megaman
Shadow
Tommy Vercetti
Zero
Frog
Master Cheif
Knuckles
Solid Snake

Cloud
Vyse
Kirby
Squall
Ness
Auron
Vivi
Sephiroth

Sonic
Ryu (SF2)
Viewtiful Joe
Dante
Sora
Ryu Hayabusa
Gordon Freeman
Samus Aran


When the bracket you have entered officially is 30/30 right now?

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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/1/2004 9:43:56 AM | Message Detail
Yay I moved up two...
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 9/1/2004 10:12:22 AM | Message Detail
Damn, my risky picks are generally wrong so far. Least my bracket was original :)
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From: Qwaar | Posted: 9/1/2004 10:40:45 AM | Message Detail
Damn.....only 34th.Ah well, slowly but surely.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/2/2004 1:09:18 AM | Message Detail
How embarrassing... The Perfects were not only beaten, but beaten soundly... by Gordon Freeman? 65% knew GFNW, yet only 60% of those who made no mistakes to this point were able to see it coming. Sad.

But hey, both of our flawless Gurus survived, so we'll take that anyday. This marks a new high water point for our Guru's making up Perfects percentage, at 13.33%. Also, we get to welcome back a former Top 50er in Mac Arrowny, taking us back up to 3. Good deal.

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/2/2004 5:25:42 AM | Message Detail
Yes! Back on the charts. Unfortunately, from this point on, there are likely some perfects with identical brackets to me, even in the gurus...

*checks*

Mastermage has Ryu over Sonic? BWAHAHAHAHA! And ps2rulezzz picked Crono over Mario, so I still have a chance. Excellent.
From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/2/2004 6:36:15 AM | Message Detail
Seems like I have a good shot to be in every ones sig. My bracket from now on is the same as King Morgoths, which seems to be right since he is mostly right.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/2/2004 7:35:48 PM | Message Detail
And that's the end of Round One. Let's do a little round up, shall we? First, the Board at the half-way point.


The Guru Contest Scoreboard

1st MasterMage 32
2nd ps2rulezzz 32
3rd Ngamer 31
4th Smurf Thy Legend 31
5th red sox 31
6th Mac Arrowny 31
7th Heroic Mario 31
8th ChichiriMuyo 31
9th Steinershocker 31
10th BeTheMan 31
11th King Morgoth 31
12th YokeI 31
13th Fantusta 31
14th cavedog 31
15th Yesmar 31
16th MMXcalibur 31
17th HaRRicH 31
18th DomaDragoon 30
19th Tai 30
20th UltimaterializerX 30
21st KrustytheKlown 30
22nd Haste2 30
23rd Hogasm 30
24th tnote 30
25th RamzaB 30
26th Riazar 30
27th Lt. Kettch 30
28th FrostHarpy 30
29th franmars 30
30th cyko 30
31st TyRaNuS 30
32nd Z1mZum 30
33rd Alanna 30
34th Qwaar 30
35th Ct. Roy Falcon 30
36th nifboy 30
37th Bananaquest 30
38th arkenaga 30
39th Haunter 30
40th FastFalcon 29
41st Vietboizz 29
42nd ExquisiteSamurai 29
43rd andaca 29
44th TheRye 29
45th fett 29
46th perdevious 29
47th yoblazer 29
48th Cavemanbob 29
49th swirldude 29
50th TeamRocketElite 29
51st Salient 29
52nd Sir Chris 29
53rd Aprosenf 29
54th irriadin 29
55th steve illumina 29
56th Bocase 29
57th Garsha 28
58th Ringworm 28
59th DaruniaTheKing 28
60th Dilated Chemist 28
61st Rufus Shinra 28
62nd charmander 27
63rd ChibiKuririn 27
64th WiggumFan 27
65th jonthomson 26
66th Tarrot 25

2 Perfects Remain; 3.03%
Representing 2 of the 15 Perfects Worldwide - 13.33%
3 Gurus in the Top 50

And Mac, you reminded me of an idea I've been thinking about for a while now. I took a quick glance through the brackets, and here's what I came up with for


Mathematically Eliminated Gurus

These are the guys you won't have to worry about putting in your signature this year, as they can no longer win the Championship outright, nor tie for it.

5th red sox 31
11th King Morgoth 31
14th cavedog 31
20th UltimaterializerX 30
21st KrustytheKlown 30
24th tnote 30
26th Riazar 30
28th FrostHarpy 30
29th franmars 30
30th cyko 30
35th Ct. Roy Falcon 30
36th nifboy 30
42nd ExquisiteSamurai 29
44th TheRye 29
50th TeamRocketElite 29
51st Salient 29
52nd Sir Chris 29
53rd Aprosenf 29
58th Ringworm 28
61st Rufus Shinra 28
62nd charmander 27
64th WiggumFan 27

22 Eliminated

Not to say that these guys won't do well, because most of them will... they just can't win it all. For next year, just remember that you can easily keep your name of this list for almost the entire Contest... as long as you pick against the majority on at least one important match (aka Ulti and Melee last time).

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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/2/2004 7:38:20 PM | Message Detail

Mastermage has Ryu over Sonic? BWAHAHAHAHA!


I can only assume you are laughing at my outrageously correct upset special.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/2/2004 7:38:36 PM | Message Detail
Nice. A lot of people eliminated already.
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/2/2004 7:39:25 PM | Message Detail
as long as you pick against the majority on at least one important match

*cough* MC over Frog.

*cough* Ryu over Sonic.

I feel safe.
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/2/2004 7:41:38 PM | Message Detail
Ngamer, when are you going to re-update the excel sheet?
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/2/2004 7:41:41 PM | Message Detail
oooh, ouch that lists hurts ngamer, interesting nonetheless thoughm and I'ld be willing to say Ulti didn't go for ssbm to go against the crowd, and I don't think he'd be exaggerating either.
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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/2/2004 7:44:18 PM | Message Detail
How many people have Crono beating Mario?
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/2/2004 7:45:06 PM | Message Detail
41 of the gurus.
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:28:02 PM | Message Detail
Seems like I have a good shot to be in every ones sig. My bracket from now on is the same as King Morgoths, which seems to be right since he is mostly right.

that's putting way too much faith in my own bracket :P...but good luck to you!
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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:30:30 PM | Message Detail
Why is Ulti on the eliminated gurus...did I miss something???
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:32:14 PM | Message Detail
Because no matter how well Ulti does, Chichiri's guaranteed to do better than him.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:32:42 PM | Message Detail
Chichiri and Ulti have the same bracket, sans one difference: Vivi vs. DK. Chichiri won that, so he doesn't have a chance at beating her for the Guru challenge.

Although I am confused about one thing:

I thought that Chichiri had Sephiroth winning in her bracket, and Crono beating Link. And I thought Ulti had Cloud winning in his bracket and Link beating Crono.

Am I mistaken? Did they give different brackets for the Guru challenge than their actual brackets? Or are they referring to alts of theirs? Sorry, I've been wondering about that myself >_<.
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From: Chococid | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:33:33 PM | Message Detail
i'll go ahead and post mine up tomorrow.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:34:36 PM | Message Detail
Updated!

http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/04SumGurus.xls

And don't let them get you down, Mmage... it's a risk, sure, but of the kind you have to take if you want to go all the way.

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From: Yesmar | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:36:21 PM | Message Detail
Chichiri's a girl??

Well, I guess that kinda explains the comment about Seifer/Zell yaoi she made.
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:36:43 PM | Message Detail
41 of the gurus.

Unless I miscounted, it's actually 39.

39 for Crono
25 for Mario
2 for Magus
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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:38:29 PM | Message Detail
Ok now I understand...
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:39:42 PM | Message Detail
Chic's bracket isn't anything like that, Mum... It's the exact same as mine, and I made not a single risky pick.

And don't bother, Cocopuffs! It's far, far too late to join.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/2/2004 8:41:53 PM | Message Detail
*cough* MC over Frog.

*cough* Ryu over Sonic.

I feel safe.


One less bracket in my way. Good upset with MC though; wish I did it.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2004 10:24:37 PM | Message Detail
There seems to be a great deal of confusion centered around me.

When speaking of my choices of Crono over Link and Seph to win it all I speak of another bracket. I have a friend who is clueless about the contest, so I helped him out to make a 'game theory' bracket that is a very long shot statistically yet still within the realm of possiblity. Unlike my bracket I actually like that bracket. I only have this one to win, and as you can see I stumbled upon every safe choice.

And yes, I have soundly defeated Ulti and many others sending them to contest hell, as it were, along with Ngamer and a couple of other gurus.

Oh, and as fun as it would be to let the confusion cause trouble across the board in the not so distant future, I'm a guy. The Seifer/Zell yaoi was one of my ex-girlfriends favorites and I read it to appease her. It was well written smut, but not exactly a turn on to me. Now Vincent/Sephiroth... Anywya, I'm a guy. I got my name from a character in Fushigi Yuugi who is male. It looks similar to a female name but isn't. No confusion here people, I'm actually a guy.
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/2/2004 10:37:55 PM | Message Detail

And don't let them get you down, Mmage... it's a risk, sure, but of the kind you have to take if you want to go all the way.


You had a ton of respect from me for running this tourney, and you just went up about 10 notches more. In retrospect, I am a bit worried about that pick but if it pays off... Boy will I be happy.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/2/2004 10:41:01 PM | Message Detail
I got my name from a character in Fushigi Yuugi who is male. It looks similar to a female name but isn't. No confusion here people, I'm actually a guy.

I knew it!, or at least I had thought of the fushigi yuugi character.
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From: Mumei | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:02:17 PM | Message Detail
Chichiri's a girl??

Sorry, I just think of a girl when I see the name. I know he isn't, but sometimes I accidentally say "her" when referring to Chichiri >_<.
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From: Fantusta | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:07:43 PM | Message Detail
Shoot, just noticed a mistake.
I had Jak in my bracket.
I must have failed to type it correctly. I did think he would win.
That makes me eliminated, I think, too. Arrg.
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From: Alanna82 | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:14:07 PM | Message Detail
If it was Nuriko then I would doubt the gender, but Chichiri is Male. (hes actually one of the more male looking ones....)
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:18:48 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, and he, along with Hotohori, are the coolest characters in that anime by far*.

Ahhh, Hotohori... the emperor is dreamy...

Wait, maybe I should have been Nuriko!

Of course, at the time I made this account, I was more of the Chichiri type of person. And by the Chichiri type I mean I actually had great similarities to him as a character.

*Note: There are several cool characters, and several of them actually come close to the two I meantioned, but I like to exagerate from time to time.
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:21:42 PM | Message Detail
Eliminated already? Drat... I knew I shoulda taken Link to win it all...
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From: Alanna82 | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:22:54 PM | Message Detail
Nuriko is my favorite. ^_^
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:24:41 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I like Nuriko a lot as well.
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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:28:15 PM | Message Detail
So what kept me from being eliminated, NGamer64? Just curious...
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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/2/2004 11:33:23 PM | Message Detail
Man I'm tired *yawns*
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/3/2004 12:25:43 AM | Message Detail
So what kept me from being eliminated, NGamer64? Just curious...

It looks to me like Haunter has the same bracket you do from here on, except he has 1 extra point. So I think you are eliminated, unless I missed something.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/3/2004 12:39:07 AM | Message Detail
Ouch... well, I certainly thank you for your honesty, Fan. Unfortunately you were right, and that does indeed eliminate you from winning it all... this also means there were only 3 true Cookie Cutter brackets. Something funny with your original bracket post:

From: Fantusta | Posted: 8/1/2004 10:02:06 PM | Message Detail
Round One
Link, Ganondorf, Yoshi, Luigi, Magus, Crono, Bowser, Mario
Mega Man, Tidus, Tommy Vercetti, Zero, Frog, Master Chief, Knuckles, Solid Snake
Cloud, Vyse, Kirby, Squall, Ness, Auron, Vivi, Sephiroth
Sonic, Ryu (SF2), Viewtiful Joe, Dante, Sora, Ryu Hayabusa, Sam Fisher, Samus

...

The copy-paste worked scarily too well there >_<.
I gave up on my specials and now hate what I've done.


Goes to show you should always trust your instinct, I suppose.

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From: Tjian | Posted: 9/3/2004 12:56:17 AM | Message Detail
Mind if I could get on the guru scoreboard? I forgot to post my bracket when this whole guru thing started. Let me know if I would have to like e-mail my bracket or something to someone. I hope it wouldn't affect the percentages of guru's picking this or that. (You can see me in like 6th place or so right now)
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From: Tjian | Posted: 9/3/2004 1:12:04 AM | Message Detail
bump
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/3/2004 1:58:33 AM | Message Detail
Hey NGamer, when you did that mathematically eliminated thing, did you include points we've missed in later rounds as well? If you did, I'd be fascinated to know what possible chain of events could lead to my bracket winning or tying for the lead.
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/3/2004 2:16:19 AM | Message Detail
Oh and while I'm here, I think I should confess that I have Crono against Link in the elite eight, not Mario. I'm not sure how I had Mario down in my Guru bracket, (inattention on my part, no doubt) but it's Crono. Which I suspect may eliminate me, if I wasn't already. Oh well.
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From: Tjian | Posted: 9/3/2004 2:33:08 AM | Message Detail
bump again
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/3/2004 3:29:47 AM | Message Detail
OK, I went through the brackets, and the following appear to be eliminated as well. Just so there isn't too much false hope out there.:p

37th Bananaquest 30 (By Steinershocker)
38th arkenaga 30 (Steinershocker)
39th Haunter 30 (Steinershocker)
43rd andaca 29 (Haste2)
45th fett 29 (Mac Arrowny)
48th Cavemanbob 29 (ps2rulezzz, who has a great shot at a perfect bracket I might add)
49th swirldude 29 (Steinershocker)
54th irriadin 29 (Mac Arrowny)
56th Bocase 29 (Steinershocker)
57th Garsha 28 (Mac Arrowny)
59th DaruniaTheKing 28 (Tyranus)

Eliminated because they lack a tie breaker are the following:

10th BeTheMan 31 (NGamer)
12th YokeI 31 (Smurf Thy Legend)
41st Vietboizz 29 (NGamer)
46th perdevious 29 (Smurf Thy Legend)
47th yoblazer 29 (MMXCalibur)

Meaning there are 28 brackets alive.

Those still with a chance to win outright are:

1st MasterMage 32
2nd ps2rulezzz 32
7th Heroic Mario 31
9th Steinershocker 31
15th Yesmar 31
16th MMXcalibur 31
18th DomaDragoon 30
19th Tai 30
22nd Haste2 30
25th RamzaB 30
27th Lt. Kettch 30
31st TyRaNuS 30
32nd Z1mZum 30
40th FastFalcon 29
55th steve illumina 29
60th Dilated Chemist 28
63rd ChibiKuririn 27
66th Tarrot 25

Everyone else can at best tie for first.

And one other thing. The following will be eliminated tomorrow if Luigi wins:

3rd Ngamer 31 (Alanna)
6th Mac Arrowny 31 (Tyranus)
8th ChichiriMuyo 31 (Alanna)
13th Fantusta 31 (Alanna)
17th HaRRicH 31 (Tyranus)
40th FastFalcon 29 (Tai)

And if Yoshi wins:

19th Tai 30 (Mac Arrowny)
25th RamzaB 30 (Steinershocker)
31st TyRaNuS 30 (Mac Arrowny)
33rd Alanna 30 (Ngamer)
34th Qwaar 30 (Ngamer)
65th jonthomson 26 (Haste2)

Hopefully there aren't too many mistakes in there.:p

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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/3/2004 3:34:02 AM | Message Detail
Whoops, found a mistake already. perdevious is still alive, must not have notice Smurf had Jill winning. So 29 brackets left.
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SC2K4 Score: 30/32 (Yoshi, Magus). About to be owned by ____ in the guru contest (Unless Magus and Sephiroth win).
From: Sir Chris | Posted: 9/3/2004 3:36:09 AM | Message Detail
argh
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From: Sir Chris | Posted: 9/3/2004 3:41:49 AM | Message Detail
yo, I entered a really odd bracket and tell me if it would be eliminated, I am just curious, these are like my "what if I made 5 mistakes..."(its not entered for prizes)

I had a score of 31/32 for the first round

Link
Yoshi
Crono
Mario
Mega Man
Zero
Frog
Snake
Cloud
Squall
Auron
Sephiroth
Sonic
Dante
Ryu
Samus

--

Link
Mario
Mega Man
Snake
Cloud
Sephiroth
Sonic
Samus

--

Link
Mega Man
Cloud
Samus

--

Link
Cloud

--

Cloud

thanks, I am just wondering, not official in the slightest

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From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 9/3/2004 3:47:12 AM | Message Detail
ah, they were talking about FY in here, cool topic. =).

Chichiri is cool and all, but my favorite is Tasuki, he is more like me personality wise, ya know?(or no da.)
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First Round Score: 30/32, Second Round Score: 2/2
My Winner: Sephiroth, My Next Pick: Yoshi, Holy **** Ganon got pwned.
From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/3/2004 3:52:04 AM | Message Detail
If you entered any tie breaker as well, you could win. If not, you'd tie for first at best.
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SC2K4 Score: 30/32 (Yoshi, Magus). About to be owned by ____ in the guru contest (Unless Magus and Sephiroth win).
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/3/2004 5:11:08 AM | Message Detail
Sorry if i made a mistake while posting my bracket but um.. I just checked my contest score and I have only missed one match..

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"Fate has no forgiveness for those who dare stand against it." -Game Over (Chrono Cross)
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/3/2004 5:26:40 AM | Message Detail
Is there any way to find out what my tie-breaker was? 'Cuz I know it's in the low 70,000's, but I don't know what it is EXACTLY.
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From: Ma Chao the Wanderer | Posted: 9/3/2004 5:40:41 AM | Message Detail
Am I the only cookie-cutter with Mario over Crono?
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Mighty Morphin' Power Jesus!
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/3/2004 6:38:31 AM | Message Detail
Not quite...I do, as well as a bunch of others. If you check the excel document in Ngamer's sig, it shows 25 with Mario over Crono.

Is there any way to find out what my tie-breaker was? 'Cuz I know it's in the low 70,000's, but I don't know what it is EXACTLY.

Not unless you're on the leaderboard, and CJayC posts it at the end of the contest.

Ouch, I just realized that my pick was way too high. Cloud only got 65,000 in 2k3. Thankfully, yours is the only bracket that's identical to mine with the same amount of points, and your pick is even worse than mine is.
From: Dark115 | Posted: 9/3/2004 7:09:49 AM | Message Detail
I'd love to know how I rank up there if its possible, I have 31/32 going into the second round and here's the rest of my bracket:

Link
Yoshi
Crono
Mario
Mega Man
Zero
Frog
Snake
Cloud
Squall
Auron
Sephiroth
Sonic
Dante
Ryu
Samus
--
Link
Crono
Mega Man
Snake
Cloud
Sephiroth
Sonic
Samus
--
Link
Mega Man
Cloud
Samus
--
Link
Cloud
--
Cloud

And my tie-breaker is 60,000 I believe.
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Current SC2K4 Score: 31/32
COWS are for Milking, not GAMES
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/3/2004 7:21:29 AM | Message Detail
Sshock: Yes, you're the only Cookie -Mario we have. A great position to be in, I'd say.

Tjian: Sorry, nobody gets entered into the Contest this late. Not you, not Rex Banner, nobody.

LtK: Great work! Yeah, I didn't go nearly as in-depth when figuring out the eliminations, mainly just looked at the Cloud/Crono and Link/Crono brackets to try and get a majority of them. And putting up who they're eliminated by is a nice feature as well... makes this feel kind of like the Royal Rumble. Which, I guess in a way, it is.

*prepares to throw Alanna over the top rope*

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/3/2004 8:02:29 AM | Message Detail
Out of the guru's who still have a chance and have link winning, there are only 1 or 2 who picked crono. Pretty weird.
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From: Alanna82 | Posted: 9/3/2004 8:47:56 AM | Message Detail
ouch. I dont like to be thrown.....
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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/3/2004 11:36:24 AM | Message Detail
I am just checking the list and I see that I have 10 points? Is that possible if I have only missed one match thus far?

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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/3/2004 1:30:20 PM | Message Detail
Sorry if i made a mistake while posting my bracket but um.. I just checked my contest score and I have only missed one match..

According to the bracket I see, you should have 29 points at the moment, since you chose Shadow, Viewtiful Joe, and Gordon to win. If that wasn't your bracket, you'll have to talk to Ngamer about it.

Dark115
I'd love to know how I rank up there if its possible


You would have the same score as 3 other people, but since your tie breaker is the lowest, I would say you'd have a great chance.

LtK: Great work!

Thanks, I always love stat stuff, so this is pretty fun.

By the way, Qwaar would also be eliminating you with a Luigi victory, I just listed the first one because I'm lazy.:p

And because Mac Arrowny brought it up, here are the people who can at best tie, and how their tiebreakers stack up:

31 Ngamer 63218
31 Chichiri 65000
31 Fantusta 69999

30 Hogasm
Sora/Link
(No TB, can tie with ps2rulezzz, who also doesn't have one)

30 Alanna 60000
Luigi
30 Qwaar 65000
Luigi

31 Mac Arrowny 67000
Mario/Link
31 Harrich 70000
Mario/Link

26 jonthompson 45678
Luigi/Sora/Seph/Seph/Seph
(Can tie with Haste 2, who has 75000)

And hopefully the last mistake I'll notice in my other post, Smurf Thy Legend is added onto the list of those who can still win outright.
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SC2K4 Score: 30/32 (Yoshi, Magus). About to be owned by ____ in the guru contest (Unless Magus and Sephiroth win).
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/3/2004 1:35:26 PM | Message Detail
NGamer, you go toss Alanna, I'll toss Qwaar.
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From: Smurf X | Posted: 9/3/2004 1:45:53 PM | Message Detail
4th Smurf Thy Legend 31 Link Sephiroth 63127 6 6

I'm either the biggest idiot or the greatest genius ~_~

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From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/3/2004 1:49:04 PM | Message Detail
26 jonthompson 45678
Luigi/Sora/Seph/Seph/Seph
(Can tie with Haste 2, who has 75000)

Nobody can spell my name right. I love it.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/3/2004 3:20:41 PM | Message Detail
Samurai, I made a large post about you and the strangeness of your prediction just a few days back. I'll re-post it now so you see.


From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/1/2004 9:41:13 AM | Message Detail
"And now I have a question for you, ExquisiteSamurai. Why did you submit a bracket to me that looked like this:

From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 7/31/2004 6:23:30 PM | Message Detail
Round 1:

Link
Ganondorf
Yoshi
Luigi
Magus
Crono
Bowser
Mario

Megaman
Shadow
Tommy Vercetti
Zero
Frog
Master Cheif
Knuckles
Solid Snake

Cloud
Vyse
Kirby
Squall
Ness
Auron
Vivi
Sephiroth

Sonic
Ryu (SF2)
Viewtiful Joe
Dante
Sora
Ryu Hayabusa
Gordon Freeman
Samus Aran

When the bracket you have entered officially is 30/30 right now?"


I just don't understand how your two mis-typings could occur when entering predictions for the two most controversial matches of the entire first round... in other words, the matchups you ought to have double checked. But, I'll make the changes to your Guru bracket... just as soon as I see a screenshot of that section of your officially entered bracket, that is.

And LtK, Fantusta just posted a little bit ago that he actually picked Jak in his bracket, but then mistyped it when entering here. SO, there were only 3 true Cookie Cutters, and SO, it would come down to just me and Chich, as we have tiebreakers going.

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From: Fantusta | Posted: 9/3/2004 9:46:15 PM | Message Detail
Well, I made two last-second changes; Vivi over DK and Jak over Ness, so it balances out... if only I had typed correctly. And if only Ness had failed the cookie cutters.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/4/2004 1:18:15 AM | Message Detail
I would get elimiated? how many other people have sora winning round two?
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/4/2004 1:41:07 AM | Message Detail
7, Falcon.

Oh my, is that ever sad... a former Perfect picked Ganon. This raises our Percent of Perfects to a record high of 14.29%. We all said Link, so no other changes.

Looks like Yoshi has this one pretty well in hand, having gotten out to a 58% start. But I'll wait until the Day Vote starts rolling in before running the next update. (In other words, I'm too tired.)

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From: Alanna82 | Posted: 9/4/2004 1:42:16 AM | Message Detail
*Prepares to be thrown out of the ring*
seriously though, the only reason I picked Luigi was to avoid the cookie cutter bracket....
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/4/2004 1:44:13 AM | Message Detail
ah, I forgot about the people who could have ryu losing to squall when said that I was the only one that betrayed Jill, thx
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/4/2004 3:26:38 AM | Message Detail
Well, normally I would wait longer before calling a match like this, but Luigi isn't exactly known for taking the day vote. Assuming Yoshi holds on, the following will be eliminated:

Tai (Mac Arrowny, HaRRicH)
TyRaNuS (Mac Arrowny, HaRRicH)
RamzaB (Steinershocker, or if changed to Crono winning, Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo)
Alanna (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo)
Qwaar (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo)
jonthomson (Haste2)

And Fantusta was eliminated due to taking Jak, leaving us with 22 brackets still alive (10 Link, 6 Cloud, 4 Sephiroth, 2 Mega Man).

Still assuming Yoshi holds on, the following may be eliminated by the Magus/Crono match:

If Magus wins:
Steinershocker (Yesmar)
Ngamer (Yesmar)
ChichiriMuyo (Yesmar)
Haste2 (Lt Kettch)

If Crono wins:
Yesmar (Steinershocker)
steve illumina (ps2rulezzz)
Lt Kettch (Haste2)
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SC2K4 Score: 32/34 (Yoshi, Magus). About to be owned by ____ in the guru contest (Unless Magus and Sephiroth win).
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/4/2004 12:18:08 PM | Message Detail
And well into the Day Vote, Yoshi's still holding right around the 55% mark. You know what that means...

*throws Alanna out of the ring*


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st MasterMage 34
2nd ps2rulezzz 34
3rd Ngamer 33
4th Smurf Thy Legend 33
5th red sox 33
6th Mac Arrowny 33
7th Heroic Mario 33
8th ChichiriMuyo 33
9th Steinershocker 33
10th BeTheMan 33
11th King Morgoth 33
12th YokeI 33
13th cavedog 33
14th Yesmar 33
15th HaRRicH 33
16th MMXcalibur 32
17th Fantusta 32
18th UltimaterializerX 32
19th KrustytheKlown 32
20th Haste2 32
21st Hogasm 32
22nd tnote 32
23rd Riazar 32
24th Lt. Kettch 32
25th FrostHarpy 32
26th franmars 32
27th cyko 32
28th Ct. Roy Falcon 32
29th nifboy 32
30th Bananaquest 32
31st arkenaga 32
32nd Haunter 32
33rd DomaDragoon 31
34th Tai 31
35th RamzaB 31
36th TyRaNuS 31
37th Z1mZum 31
38th Alanna 31
39th Qwaar 31
40th FastFalcon 31
41st Vietboizz 31
42nd ExquisiteSamurai 31
43rd andaca 31
44th TheRye 31
45th fett 31
46th perdevious 31
47th yoblazer 31
48th Cavemanbob 31
49th swirldude 31
50th TeamRocketElite 31
51st Salient 31
52nd Aprosenf 31
53rd irriadin 31
54th Bocase 31
55th Sir Chris 30
56th steve illumina 30
57th Ringworm 30
58th Dilated Chemist 30
59th Rufus Shinra 30
60th Garsha 29
61st DaruniaTheKing 29
62nd charmander 29
63rd ChibiKuririn 29
64th WiggumFan 29
65th jonthomson 27
66th Tarrot 27

And as LtK explained, there are now 39 Gurus who can no longer win outright or tie.

Interesting to note that we flat-out killed the Board on this win. It was our biggest difference of opinion in the entire Contest, and as you can see, it worked out great for us. Here's what we thought.

Yoshi 53 80.30%
Luigi 13 19.70%

They also picked Yoshi... but with only 63.81%. That's a 16.49% swing, far bigger than the next closest (our 12% confidence boost in Tidus beating Shadow).

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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/4/2004 1:54:33 PM | Message Detail
Will you be giving out 2 points per match in the second round here? It looks like you just added 1 for the Link/Yoshi matches.
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SC2K4 Score: 32/34 (Yoshi, Magus). About to be owned by ____ in the guru contest (Unless Magus and Sephiroth win).
From: Smurf X | Posted: 9/4/2004 1:57:19 PM | Message Detail
Who's that handsome devil in 4th?

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/4/2004 2:00:24 PM | Message Detail
WhoaMG!

Talk about old habits being hard to break. Yeah, I'm going to use the normal 1/2/4/8/etc system. SOOO, here's the new, real rankings:


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st MasterMage 36
2nd ps2rulezzz 36
3rd Ngamer 35
4th Smurf Thy Legend 35
5th red sox 35
6th Mac Arrowny 35
7th Heroic Mario 35
8th ChichiriMuyo 35
9th Steinershocker 35
10th BeTheMan 35
11th King Morgoth 35
12th YokeI 35
13th cavedog 35
14th Yesmar 35
15th HaRRicH 35
16th Fantusta 34
17th UltimaterializerX 34
18th KrustytheKlown 34
19th Haste2 34
20th Hogasm 34
21st tnote 34
22nd Riazar 34
23rd Lt. Kettch 34
24th FrostHarpy 34
25th franmars 34
26th cyko 34
27th Ct. Roy Falcon 34
28th nifboy 34
29th Bananaquest 34
30th arkenaga 34
31st Haunter 34
32nd MMXcalibur 33
33rd FastFalcon 33
34th Vietboizz 33
35th ExquisiteSamurai 33
36th andaca 33
37th TheRye 33
38th fett 33
39th perdevious 33
40th yoblazer 33
41st Cavemanbob 33
42nd swirldude 33
43rd TeamRocketElite 33
44th Salient 33
45th Aprosenf 33
46th irriadin 33
47th Bocase 33
48th DomaDragoon 32
49th Tai 32
50th RamzaB 32
51st TyRaNuS 32
52nd Z1mZum 32
53rd Alanna 32
54th Qwaar 32
55th Ringworm 32
56th Dilated Chemist 32
57th Rufus Shinra 32
58th charmander 31
59th ChibiKuririn 31
60th Sir Chris 31
61st steve illumina 31
62nd WiggumFan 31
63rd Garsha 30
64th DaruniaTheKing 30
65th Tarrot 29
66th jonthomson 28

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/4/2004 2:01:53 PM | Message Detail
Survival time, baby.
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Spring Contest Score: 151/192
From: Smurf X | Posted: 9/4/2004 2:02:04 PM | Message Detail
*looks at new rankings*

Who's that handsome devil in 4th?

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From: tommyvercetti456 | Posted: 9/4/2004 2:04:25 PM | Message Detail
yea
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From: Smurf X | Posted: 9/4/2004 2:07:13 PM | Message Detail
I'm actually confident that I could win this. Jill has screwed me a bit but Seph and Link should more then make up for it

The only two matches that worry me is Megaman v Snake and Sonic v Samus.


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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/4/2004 2:11:26 PM | Message Detail
Who'd ya pick in those two?
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 9/4/2004 3:51:43 PM | Message Detail
15/193 = 7.8% of the brackets with no more than 1 point lost are gurus.

34/772 = 4.4% of the brackets with no more than 2 points lost are gurus.

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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/4/2004 3:52:59 PM | Message Detail
Sweet I'm up to 47 now...
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From: FrostHarpy | Posted: 9/4/2004 3:56:11 PM | Message Detail
Eliminated so early...I should've entered in the Spring to show off.
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Summer 2004 Contest Prediction: Match 34: Yoshi wins 52.17%-47.83%
From: Chococid | Posted: 9/4/2004 8:57:42 PM | Message Detail
erm...

printscreen you say?

i don't think that's going to work.


I'll be typing this stuff up monday then.

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Cloud Laharl Kirby Squall Ness Auron Vivi Sephiroth
Sonic Ryu Joe Dante Sora Ryu Sam Samus (only two losses)
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 9/4/2004 9:00:09 PM | Message Detail
I still find it kind of sad that I apparently haven't been eliminated yet.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/4/2004 9:07:11 PM | Message Detail
No, Chocokid, I never mentioned anything about a screencap in regards to you. All I told you was, don't bother typing in your bracket, because it's incredibly, hugely too late to get involved for this season. In order to join, you would have to had signed up, in the Stats topic, over a month ago. You would then have had to post your bracket in the bracket topic within 3 days when they locked down. No one was added if they were a day late, let alone well over a month.

A complicated process? Yes. But 66 others had enough incentive to go through with it. That's what makes them Gurus.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/5/2004 1:48:36 AM | Message Detail
Wow, what a great day to be a Guru! The rest of the world picked just horribly yesterday, with under 44% knowing Yoshi would win. The Perfects were a little smarter, but certainly didn't approach our 80%. ps2 and Mmage weren't fooled, moving our % of Perfects all the way up to 22.22%. In addition, we smashed the old record for most Gurus on the Top 50 at once, with 6 currently! Welcome back to red sox and Sshock.

Even better, though... A mere 130 users are left with bracket within a point of perfection. A whole 15 of them are Gurus! With some very easy to guess matches coming in the next week or so, it looks like we're going to have a great shot at 10 Gurus on the Big Board. Huzzah! In other news, Magus is dead in the water. Reverse SFF? lawls! New ranks:


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

Rank Name Total Pts
1st MasterMage 38
2nd ps2rulezzz 38
3rd Ngamer 37
4th Smurf Thy Legend 37
5th red sox 37
6th Mac Arrowny 37
7th Heroic Mario 37
8th ChichiriMuyo 37
9th Steinershocker 37
10th BeTheMan 37
11th King Morgoth 37
12th YokeI 37
13th cavedog 37
14th HaRRicH 37
15th Fantusta 36
16th UltimaterializerX 36
17th KrustytheKlown 36
18th Haste2 36
19th Hogasm 36
20th tnote 36
21st Riazar 36
22nd FrostHarpy 36
23rd franmars 36
24th cyko 36
25th Ct. Roy Falcon 36
26th nifboy 36
27th Bananaquest 36
28th arkenaga 36
29th Haunter 36
30th Yesmar 35
31st MMXcalibur 35
32nd FastFalcon 35
33rd Vietboizz 35
34th ExquisiteSamurai 35
35th andaca 35
36th TheRye 35
37th fett 35
38th perdevious 35
39th yoblazer 35
40th Cavemanbob 35
41st swirldude 35
42nd TeamRocketElite 35
43rd Salient 35
44th Aprosenf 35
45th irriadin 35
46th Bocase 35
47th Lt. Kettch 34
48th Tai 34
49th RamzaB 34
50th TyRaNuS 34
51st Z1mZum 34
52nd Alanna 34
53rd Qwaar 34
54th Ringworm 34
55th Dilated Chemist 34
56th Rufus Shinra 34
57th charmander 33
58th ChibiKuririn 33
59th Sir Chris 33
60th WiggumFan 33
61st DomaDragoon 32
62nd Garsha 32
63rd DaruniaTheKing 32
64th steve illumina 31
65th Tarrot 31
66th jonthomson 30

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From: Smurf X | Posted: 9/5/2004 2:45:12 AM | Message Detail
:( I should be on the leaderboard today

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From: Qwaar | Posted: 9/5/2004 3:55:48 AM | Message Detail
NOOOOOOOOOO! Damn Yoshi! My bracket is ruined!
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From: Smurf X | Posted: 9/5/2004 6:37:41 AM | Message Detail
Are those 66 the ones who haven't been eliminated yet?

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From: Ma Chao the Wanderer | Posted: 9/5/2004 6:39:09 AM | Message Detail
No, those 66 are everyone who entered
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/5/2004 8:31:43 AM | Message Detail
You want to see a listing of only though with a chance to win, eh? Ask and you shall receive. I'll even throw in who they picked to win.

1st MasterMage 38 Cloud
2nd ps2rulezzz 38 Link
3rd Ngamer 37 Cloud
4th Smurf Thy Legend 37 Link
6th Mac Arrowny 37 Link
7th Heroic Mario 37 Mega Man
8th ChichiriMuyo 37 Cloud
9th Steinershocker 37 Cloud
10th BeTheMan 37 Cloud
12th YokeI 37 Link
14th HaRRicH 37 Link
18th Haste2 36 Sephiroth
19th Hogasm 36 Link
31st MMXcalibur 35 Link
32nd FastFalcon 35 Link
33rd Vietboizz 35 Cloud
35th andaca 35 Sephiroth
38th perdevious 35 Link
39th yoblazer 35 Link
51st Z1mZum 34 Mega Man
55th Dilated Chemist 34 Sephiroth
58th ChibiKuririn 33 Link
61st DomaDragoon 32 Cloud
65th Tarrot 31 Sephiroth

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From: swirldude | Posted: 9/5/2004 8:47:50 AM | Message Detail
I knew missing one/two/three matches would make you lose the contest. Oh well. I hope someone cool wins, instead of some ass.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/5/2004 8:53:36 AM | Message Detail
That's weird to think that only 24 of us original 66 have a chance.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/5/2004 8:54:46 AM | Message Detail
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From: Qwaar | Posted: 9/5/2004 10:05:08 AM | Message Detail
Ngamer, I know i'm thick, but how can Tarror have a chance and I can't? I'm confuzzled.
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From: HyperBlast Xan | Posted: 9/5/2004 10:14:57 AM | Message Detail
Ngamer, I know i'm thick, but how can Tarror have a chance and I can't? I'm confuzzled.

Likely, someone with more points than you has an identical bracket, and therefore that person is guarenteed to always be better than you.

Tarrot likely has a unique bracket, and if everything turns out like his bracket, he can win.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/5/2004 1:26:35 PM | Message Detail
The only reason Tarrot is still alive is because he has Ryu (the one from NG) beating both Samus and Sonic to make the Final Four. The only way he wins is if both those upsets happen, AND Seph beats both Cloud and Link.

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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/5/2004 3:58:13 PM | Message Detail
Well, with Crono's crushing victory the following were eliminated today:/

Yesmar (Steinershocker)
steve illumina (ps2rulezzz)
Lt Kettch (Haste2)

Leaving us with 19 brackets remaining still with a chance to win.

Not that it matters, but just for fun, the following would be eliminated with a Bowser victory tomorrow:

6th Mac Arrowny 37 (ps2rulezzz)
14th HaRRicH 37 (ps2rulezzz)
55th Dilated Chemist 34 (Haste2)



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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/5/2004 4:02:43 PM | Message Detail
Hey Ngamer.. Sorry about making a huge mistake posting my bracket.. I have Tidus > Shadow, Tails > VJ and I did have Gordon > Fisher so I do have a miss point.. Is there anyway i can post my bracket up here?

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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/5/2004 7:24:41 PM | Message Detail
How would we be eliminated by a Bowser victory? Wouldn't everyone be hurt evenly?
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/5/2004 7:26:02 PM | Message Detail
I think the people that'd put us out would have Crono beating Mario in the next round, Mac.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/5/2004 7:29:19 PM | Message Detail
oh yeah...*smacks self* I can't believe I'm that dense.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/5/2004 7:34:08 PM | Message Detail
Don't feel bad; I had to think it through pretty hard, too.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 9/5/2004 7:35:44 PM | Message Detail
What? I'm eliminated today? That's odd considering I got Crono/Magus right...

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/5/2004 7:39:55 PM | Message Detail
Nu-uh; Ketch is, the rest of his bracket is just like yours.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/5/2004 8:15:10 PM | Message Detail
ES, I'll change it if you go to that section of your bracket and take a screen capture of it, then upload that pic. Or else mail it to me, Ngamer@gmail.com. If you need help with the screencap process, just post back.

And yeah, if your name is in () in LtK's posts, that always means you're the guy who eliminated the person in front.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/6/2004 1:26:32 AM | Message Detail
A fairly respectable 78% went with Crono to win it yesterday. The only big news was that a former perfect was fooled into backing Magus, and so our % of Perfects being Gurus shot up to a new record high of 25.00%. Mario's easy victory today will earn 2 more points for all of us, as no one was silly enough to give Bowser a chance.

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From: Tarrot | Posted: 9/6/2004 3:13:41 AM | Message Detail
*does the dance of FINALLY getting out of last place*

Come on Ryu, I need you to somehow be SFF/TJF/REAMF'd by Jill and be super strong.
From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/6/2004 7:43:46 PM | Message Detail
Well, everyone survived today. Probably won't be an upset tomorrow, but just in case, the following would be eliminated with a Tidus victory:

51st Z1mZum 34 (Haste2)
61st DomaDragoon 32 (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo, Steinershocker)

Heroic Mario would need Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth to all lose, but I think he'd still be alive.:p
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/7/2004 9:10:58 AM | Message Detail
Nothing too exciting for a while here. Mario wins, we all call it, and no Perfects mess up. And then today we have Mega heading for a win (and a mighty impressive one at that), but we all called it. Maybe we'll lose a Perfect on it though, that might be worth keeping an eye on.

Tomorrow is at least a tad bit more exciting, as two Gurus took the risk of backing Tommy over Zero.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/7/2004 8:48:24 PM | Message Detail
I want to post this little prediction somewhere that it won't get lost in the shuffle.

Less than 50% of brackets will have picked Zero to win tomorrow's match. Yet he's going to win with over 60% of the vote.

Long as I'm at it, after Mega's win becomes official in a few hours, we'll have only... 6 Perfects left.

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From: Sir Chris | Posted: 9/8/2004 1:15:28 AM | Message Detail
No perfects bit on tidus.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/8/2004 1:18:24 AM | Message Detail
"6 Perfects left."

At most *cackles*

And perhaps less. Oh yes, Ngamer.. You, HM and I are all seeing top 50 tomorrow!
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/8/2004 3:36:26 PM | Message Detail
Whoops! Everyone else sure sucked yesterday (barely 70% knowing that a 1 seed would reach the Sweet 16? for shame), but the Perfects were, true to their name, perfect. However, I still feel good about my predictions for today.

And yes indeed, Top 50 here we come! We ought to be flat out smashing the old Guru Representation record just a little later on tonight.

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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/8/2004 3:45:23 PM | Message Detail
Considering how only 70% picked Mega Man yesterday, I'm confident that Zero shouldn't have a whole lot of brackets in his favor either. Given how Vercetti has always been a big person with front-page bracketmakers I'm sure we'll break top 50 tomorrow! =)
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From: Mumei | Posted: 9/8/2004 3:46:16 PM | Message Detail
One of these days you two will be right about being on the leaderboard. ^_^;
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From: Qwaar | Posted: 9/9/2004 1:05:20 AM | Message Detail
"Considering how only 70% picked Mega Man yesterday, I'm confident that Zero shouldn't have a whole lot of brackets in his favor either. Given how Vercetti has always been a big person with front-page bracketmakers I'm sure we'll break top 50 tomorrow!"

It's almost scary how right you actually were on that account.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/9/2004 1:06:47 AM | Message Detail
Only 30% correct, and still we're somewhere between 51 and, what, 97? Jesus...
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/9/2004 1:18:12 AM | Message Detail
Less than 50% of brackets will have picked Zero to win tomorrow's match. Yet he's going to win with over 60% of the vote.

Booyah! Too bad the part about cracking the Top 50 didn't work out. Oh well... that's what tomorrow night is for, perhaps? A pathetic 31.57% backed Zero, but hardly any smart brackets were messed up. 1 Perfect did fall, though, moving our % of Perfects up to 28.57%. Unfortunately, that may very well be the highest we ever see, as we'll only have 1 perfect Guru left after today. Well, two were fooled by Tommy, so check the new Scoreboard.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st MasterMage 44
2nd ps2rulezzz 44
3rd Ngamer 43
4th Smurf Thy Legend 43
5th red sox 43
6th Mac Arrowny 43
7th Heroic Mario 43
8th ChichiriMuyo 43
9th Steinershocker 43
10th BeTheMan 43
11th King Morgoth 43
12th YokeI 43
13th cavedog 43
14th HaRRicH 43
15th Fantusta 42
16th UltimaterializerX 42
17th KrustytheKlown 42
18th Haste2 42
19th Hogasm 42
20th tnote 42
21st Riazar 42
22nd FrostHarpy 42
23rd franmars 42
24th cyko 42
25th Ct. Roy Falcon 42
26th nifboy 42
27th Bananaquest 42
28th arkenaga 42
29th Haunter 42
30th Yesmar 41
31st MMXcalibur 41
32nd FastFalcon 41
33rd ExquisiteSamurai 41
34th andaca 41
35th TheRye 41
36th fett 41
37th perdevious 41
38th yoblazer 41
39th Cavemanbob 41
40th swirldude 41
41st TeamRocketElite 41
42nd Salient 41
43rd Aprosenf 41
44th irriadin 41
45th Bocase 41
46th Lt. Kettch 40
47th Tai 40
48th RamzaB 40
49th TyRaNuS 40
50th Z1mZum 40
51st Alanna 40
52nd Qwaar 40
53rd Dilated Chemist 40
54th Rufus Shinra 40
55th Vietboizz 39
56th charmander 39
57th ChibiKuririn 39
58th Sir Chris 39
59th WiggumFan 39
60th Ringworm 38
61st DomaDragoon 38
62nd Garsha 38
63rd DaruniaTheKing 38
64th steve illumina 37
65th Tarrot 37
66th jonthomson 36


How many picked M. Chief for today, you ask? Why, just three. And based on these results (15 minutes into the match)

Frog 61.48% 683
Master Chief 38.52% 428
TOTAL VOTES 1111

We're looking like a bunch of geniuses, on the whole. Go Frog! And go Gurus! Let's flood that Top 50.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/9/2004 1:52:15 AM | Message Detail
What? Mastermage chose master chief? :( to bad.
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From: PugTheNinja | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:06:40 AM | Message Detail
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From: Shake X | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:23:04 AM | Message Detail
I've just scanned my entire bracket and the Full Bracket. If Ryu Hayabusa wins against Sora I'll make it to Round 3 with only 1 point lost. (Tails over V. Joe)

Crono over Mario, Cloud over Sephiroth, and Link over Cloud (Picks that I'm happy with right now) are the toss-ups after that. All in all, I'm very content.

I'm just worried one of the remaining 7 perfects has the same bracket as I. If they're all gone, I'll consider dreaming about victory.

But we're a long way from there. Good luck to all fellow Guru's. I still consider myself an 'insider', although I didn't sign up for the rankings this year.

w00t!
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:28:08 AM | Message Detail
Lol, shake I have the exact same as you.
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:29:14 AM | Message Detail
And Tijan has mario and sephiroth if I'm right in the close matches.
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:30:06 AM | Message Detail
And shake, you have the exact same bracket as King Morgoth I think.
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From: Shake X | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:43:40 AM | Message Detail
That's okay. I'm content with doing the best I can. If I turn out to get everything right but Tails vs V. Joe, lemme tell ya, I'll be one happy camper.

And if there's a wrong pick in there (More likely) I wouldn't have won anyways.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:47:07 AM | Message Detail
Well, if you predicted about 10 close matches till now, you can have those three right too. And we can't get prizes anyway.
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From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:47:24 AM | Message Detail
53rd Dilated Chemist 40

*points to sig* O,o

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= Frog vs. Master Chief =
From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/9/2004 3:23:01 AM | Message Detail
I may be bottom and I may have been worried about today's match, but at least I got the pick right :-)
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/9/2004 9:29:07 AM | Message Detail
Thanks for your honesty Dchem, I didn't have you down as a Luigi backer. This change will be reflected on the next Scoreboard update. Which... well, I COULD do it now, but I'll wait to see what happens when the after-school vote starts rolling in first. Better safe than sorry. Hold him off, Frog!

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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/9/2004 9:39:20 AM | Message Detail
I'm glad that I keep moving up a few spaces every update. If Mario wins maybe I'll be in the top 25...that'd be sweet
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/9/2004 9:42:52 AM | Message Detail
I'm glad I picked against my personal bias this match, but if I could have changed my winner yesterday before the match started, I would have.

Glad the brackets are locked, heh.
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 9/9/2004 10:02:21 AM | Message Detail
Didn't even realise I had Vercetti on my bracket - its meant to be Zero. That's at least 3 matches I've had wrong where I meant to pick the other one :(.

Stupid mousewheel rolls by itself sometimes, and probably changed the pick I had. Really should of checked my bracket. Not like I would've won anyway.
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/9/2004 2:34:36 PM | Message Detail
What? Mastermage chose master chief? :( to bad.

Right now, that isn't looking too terrible. At this days end, only one of us shall remain. Good luck. And godspeed.


^_^
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/9/2004 3:51:10 PM | Message Detail
Meh, just wait until erhmmm..... Frog wins. And then Sonic wins, and then crono wins and link wins the finals.
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From: perdevious | Posted: 9/9/2004 5:20:01 PM | Message Detail
This isn't looking to good for the Guru's as a whole...
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From: Tai | Posted: 9/9/2004 5:26:53 PM | Message Detail
*is pissed*

MC is in NO position to embarass the Guru Squad like that!!!! GRRRR, FROG MUST WIN FOR GREAT JUSTICE! >_<'

Have the majority went wrong yet on a match?! I don't know about Tails..but we CANNOT lose this one! Frog, do it for the elites!
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/9/2004 5:27:57 PM | Message Detail
I have to say, this is getting me quite excited... down there... if you catch my drift.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/9/2004 5:28:20 PM | Message Detail
Be kinda wierd that Ryu Hayabusa could come through for us, but not Frog...

...but then again, he already did once, you can't ask for alot more from him.
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From: cyko | Posted: 9/9/2004 9:37:58 PM | Message Detail
How many picked M. Chief for today, you ask? Why, just three. And based on these results (15 minutes into the match)

Frog 61.48% 683
Master Chief 38.52% 428
TOTAL VOTES 1111

We're looking like a bunch of geniuses, on the whole. Go Frog! And go Gurus! Let's flood that Top 50.



*checks current results*


Frog 49.71% 41169
Master Chief 50.29% 41647
TOTAL VOTES 82816

yep, a bunch of geniuses indeed. =P

3.5 hours left and this match is far from over. i can't believe only three gurus were willing to take a chance on MC. there's me, MasterMage, and who was the third?

hang in there Cheif!!


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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/9/2004 11:41:07 PM | Message Detail
And Frog is coming back, only 0.04% to make good.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/10/2004 1:09:17 AM | Message Detail
*hugs four other people who picked mc*
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/10/2004 1:10:45 AM | Message Detail
And with Frog's 7 vote victory, one bracket is eliminated:

FastFalcon (Mac Arrowny, HaRRicH)

Only one bracket will be eliminated tomorrow with a Snake victory:

ChibiKuririn (MMXcalibur)
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/10/2004 1:31:07 AM | Message Detail
What was that, cyko? Something about a bunch of geniuses? Why, thank you! In quite possibly the greatest match in history, Frog advances by the smallest margin of all time. For all the excitement, though, it didn't shake things up here in Guru land all THAT crazily. The biggest news is that we did lose one of our Perfects, meaning only 1/66 remains (1.52%). 2 outside perfects fell as well, and so our % of Perfects wasn't killed so so bad, just dropped back to 20.00% (1/5). In all there were 3 picks for MC, 3 for Lake, and a whopping 60 for the big winner, Frog. And so, the new Scoreboard looks thusly:


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 46
2nd Ngamer 45
3rd Smurf Thy Legend 45
4th red sox 45
5th Mac Arrowny 45
6th Heroic Mario 45
7th ChichiriMuyo 45
8th Steinershocker 45
9th BeTheMan 45
10th King Morgoth 45
11th YokeI 45
12th cavedog 45
13th HaRRicH 45
14th MasterMage 44
15th Fantusta 44
16th UltimaterializerX 44
17th KrustytheKlown 44
18th Haste2 44
19th Hogasm 44
20th tnote 44
21st Riazar 44
22nd FrostHarpy 44
23rd franmars 44
24th Ct. Roy Falcon 44
25th nifboy 44
26th Bananaquest 44
27th arkenaga 44
28th Haunter 44
29th Yesmar 43
30th MMXcalibur 43
31st ExquisiteSamurai 43
32nd andaca 43
33rd TheRye 43
34th fett 43
35th perdevious 43
36th yoblazer 43
37th Cavemanbob 43
38th swirldude 43
39th TeamRocketElite 43
40th Salient 43
41st Aprosenf 43
42nd irriadin 43
43rd Bocase 43
44th cyko 42
45th Lt. Kettch 42
46th Tai 42
47th RamzaB 42
48th TyRaNuS 42
49th Z1mZum 42
50th Alanna 42
51st Qwaar 42
52nd FastFalcon 41
53rd Vietboizz 41
54th charmander 41
55th ChibiKuririn 41
56th Sir Chris 41
57th Rufus Shinra 40
58th Dilated Chemist 40
59th Ringworm 40
60th DomaDragoon 40
61st Garsha 40
62nd WiggumFan 39
63rd steve illumina 39
64th Tarrot 39
65th DaruniaTheKing 38
66th jonthomson 38


And how's our Big Board representation looking? Well, not bad at all. We did lose Mmage, but Yoke moved up into 50th to take his place, retaining our all-time high of 6 at one time. And as always, better things are on the horizon, because a full 7 more Gurus are sitting pretty with unlisted 45 point brackets.

Hurrah for being right once again!

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/10/2004 1:37:00 AM | Message Detail
Ouch, mastermage that must hurt.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/10/2004 2:44:46 AM | Message Detail
*Cries*

haha, my bracket destroyed by all of 34 votes, haha, that's just great
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/10/2004 4:53:42 AM | Message Detail
*blink*

That was like a swift kick to the nuts.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/10/2004 6:45:05 AM | Message Detail
Mmage shouldn't be too upset though, because thanks to his other bold prediction, he'll still be Guru champ if Ryu comes through for him.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/10/2004 6:47:24 AM | Message Detail
haha, now there you have a big chance :P
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From: steve illumina | Posted: 9/10/2004 7:38:57 AM | Message Detail
Ngamer...what bracket u looking at for me? I should have 43 :)
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From: steve illumina | Posted: 9/10/2004 7:40:43 AM | Message Detail
check it and let me know! this injustice must be fixed!
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Steve Illumina: Official Satirical Commentator of SC2K4
Perfects to Fall: 5 SC2K4: 45/48 (Go FROG!)
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/10/2004 7:48:14 AM | Message Detail
He had you with Magus over Crono, I believe.
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/10/2004 7:49:01 AM | Message Detail
And luigi over yoshi
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/10/2004 9:08:09 AM | Message Detail
I'm looking at the exact bracket you told me you had. Here's a refresher.


From: steve illumina | Posted: 8/1/2004 8:29:45 AM | Message Detail
Round One

Link
Ganon
Yoshi
Luigi
Magus
Crono
Mario
Bowser

Mega Man
Shadow
Tommy V.
Zero
Frog
Master Chief
Knuckles
Snake

Cloud
Vyse
Kirby
Squall
Jak
Auron
Vivi
Sephy

Sonic
Ryu
V Joe
Dante
Sora
Ryu H.
Sam Fisher
Samus

Round Two

Link
Luigi
Magus
Mario

Mega Man
Zero
Frog
Snake

Cloud
Squall
Auron
Sephy

Sonic
Dante
Ryu Hayabusa
Samus

Round Trois

Link
Crono
Mega Man
FROG
Cloud
Sephy
Sonic
Samus

Round IV

Link
Mega Man
Cloud
Samus

Round Five

Link
Cloud

Champion

Link
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Your first mistake I noticed, in that you had Magus beating Crono and yet Crono taking out Mario later on. You told me that you had actually picked Magus to beat both Crono AND Mario. If anything else was also entered wrongly, get a screencap to me and I'll make the edits.

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From: Caelus | Posted: 9/10/2004 9:10:12 AM | Message Detail
I got 40 pts.... can I be a guru too?

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From: Bocase | Posted: 9/10/2004 9:15:48 AM | Message Detail
No, you had to sign up before the Tournament, Caelus.
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From: Caelus | Posted: 9/10/2004 9:16:21 AM | Message Detail
damnit...
oh well maybe next time
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/11/2004 1:17:46 AM | Message Detail
And now we enter... The Dead Zone. No picks against Snake, or Cloud, or Auron, or Seph. And there's only a single pick against Squall and Sonic. So, it'll be 6 days until the Dante matchup inspires any kind of excitement around here. Um, what's of note for tonight... we shockingly lost 3 from the Top 50 thanks to Snake winning. But no Gurus moved up to replace them, so... that about does it.

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From: steve illumina | Posted: 9/11/2004 8:22:46 AM | Message Detail
Well I see the problem...

Luigi...grrr...i forgot i switched that to Yoshi in round 2 on my real contest bracket :)

Now how I do I get u a screenshot...
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Perfects to Fall: 5 SC2K4: 47/50 (Go RYU H!)
From: steve illumina | Posted: 9/11/2004 8:23:28 AM | Message Detail
And I never said I picked Magus to win anything more than his first match! :)
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From: steve illumina | Posted: 9/11/2004 8:23:51 AM | Message Detail
I forgive ya though :) I know u are busy and have many brackets to look at!
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/11/2004 8:25:44 AM | Message Detail
And now we enter... The Dead Zone. No picks against Snake, or Cloud, or Auron, or Seph. And there's only a single pick against Squall and Sonic. So, it'll be 6 days until the Dante matchup inspires any kind of excitement around here.

Heh. There MAY be a little excitement before that... =D
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/11/2004 4:37:45 PM | Message Detail
Now how I do I get u a screenshot...

Press the Print Screen button on your keyboard, and then go into Paint and select Paste. Save the file, then upload it or send it to Ngamer. Simple as that.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/12/2004 10:39:09 PM | Message Detail
Hmmm, it seems inevitable that the top bracket will have a better score this year than last year. There are plenty of high-scoring gurus that have all the variations of the potentially close battles, so we might even be guaranteed a 190+ bracket. It would be an interesting thing to check.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/12/2004 10:58:29 PM | Message Detail
"so we might even be guaranteed"

If you use the word might in your sentance we're obviously not guarenteed it.
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/12/2004 10:59:32 PM | Message Detail
We can't be guaranteed a 190+ since we don't know for a fact how the remaining matches will play out.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/12/2004 11:24:18 PM | Message Detail
And though we walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, there was at least one person bold (or should I say... bold) enough to predict Kirby to upset Squall here today. The cute little thing has put up a much better fight than most gave him credit for, but never had a chance in this one, sad to say. And so, here is the last full scoreboard update, until the winner of Sonic/Ryu becomes set in stone.


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1st ps2rulezzz 52
2nd Ngamer 51
3rd Smurf Thy Legend 51
4th red sox 51
5th Mac Arrowny 51
6th Heroic Mario 51
7th ChichiriMuyo 51
8th Steinershocker 51
9th BeTheMan 51
10th King Morgoth 51
11th YokeI 51
12th cavedog 51
13th HaRRicH 51
14th MasterMage 50
15th Fantusta 50
16th UltimaterializerX 50
17th KrustytheKlown 50
18th Haste2 50
19th Hogasm 50
20th tnote 50
21st Riazar 50
22nd FrostHarpy 50
23rd franmars 50
24th Ct. Roy Falcon 50
25th nifboy 50
26th Bananaquest 50
27th arkenaga 50
28th Haunter 50
29th Yesmar 49
30th MMXcalibur 49
31st ExquisiteSamurai 49
32nd andaca 49
33rd TheRye 49
34th fett 49
35th perdevious 49
36th yoblazer 49
37th Cavemanbob 49
38th swirldude 49
39th TeamRocketElite 49
40th Salient 49
41st Aprosenf 49
42nd irriadin 49
43rd Bocase 49
44th steve illumina 49
45th cyko 48
46th Lt. Kettch 48
47th Tai 48
48th RamzaB 48
49th TyRaNuS 48
50th Z1mZum 48
51st Alanna 48
52nd Qwaar 48
53rd FastFalcon 47
54th Vietboizz 47
55th charmander 47
56th Sir Chris 47
57th Rufus Shinra 46
58th Dilated Chemist 46
59th Ringworm 46
60th DomaDragoon 46
61st Garsha 46
62nd ChibiKuririn 45
63rd WiggumFan 45
64th Tarrot 45
65th DaruniaTheKing 44
66th jonthomson 44


And steve, I made all the edits to your bracket. I went back over the original bracket topic, and you had indeed picked Magus to win only that opening match, so I just went ahead and gave you the benefit of the doubt on the rest of the changes as well.

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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/12/2004 11:55:42 PM | Message Detail
And so, here is the last full scoreboard update, until the winner of Sonic/Ryu becomes set in stone.

The day my chances of winning this contest as well as the actual one are made or broken.
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 9/13/2004 6:07:10 PM | Message Detail
I've done calculations of how we'll do for a few likely scenarios.

Assuming
Dante>Tails
Ryu H.>Sora
Sonic>Ryu
Link>Crono/Mario
Link>Mega Man,

Debated matches:
Mario vs Crono
Cloud vs Sephiroth
Link vs Cloud/Sephy


Mario>Crono, Cloud>Sephiroth, Cloud>Link; 191x1, 190x3, 189x3
Mario>Crono, Sephiroth>Cloud, Sephy>Link; Highest at 186
Mario>Crono, Cloud>Sephiroth, Link>Cloud; 191x2, 189x2
Mario>Crono, Sephiroth>Cloud, Link>Sephy; 191x1, 189x2
Crono>Mario, Cloud>Sephiroth, Cloud>Link; 191x4, 190x6, 189x4
Crono>Mario, Sephiroth>Cloud, Sephy>Link; 190x1, 189x1
Crono>Mario, Cloud>Sephiroth, Link>Cloud; 192x1, 191x1, 190x3, 189x4
Crono>Mario, Sephiroth>Cloud, Link>Sephy; 189x2

This does not include extreme scenarios such as HM's Mega Man win or MasterMage's Ryu>Sonic, as I'm only doing the most likely scenarios.

And it looks like our odds of getting a 191 are good (and we're pretty much certain to get at least 189)
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/13/2004 6:21:48 PM | Message Detail
Got a question that'd be interesting, since nobody picked Samus...if Samus ended up winning the championship, then Link vs Cloud/Sephiroth couldn't happen. However, using the variations of Crono/Mario and Cloud/Sephiroth, what could be the very absolute best the gurus could ask for?
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From: smasherx | Posted: 9/13/2004 6:29:01 PM | Message Detail
I think Sora might beat Ryu H...
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/13/2004 6:31:14 PM | Message Detail
See? Only two ways for the gurus to fail to get 190+, and both involve Sephy winning, interestingly enough. Of course, all that means nothing if Sora wins, but I don't think that's very likely.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/13/2004 6:33:08 PM | Message Detail
Crono>Mario, Cloud>Sephiroth, Cloud>Link; 191x4, 190x6, 189x4

o_0

I just noticed that...we'll have some major guru domination if that actually happens.
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 9/13/2004 6:40:15 PM | Message Detail
All of that assumes that everything plays out exactly how it's expected from here on out. Something I do not see happening.
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/13/2004 6:40:56 PM | Message Detail
Niether do I. But seeing as we both made bold upset predictions, that is probably the reason.
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/14/2004 7:25:26 AM | Message Detail
Crono>Mario, Sephiroth>Cloud, Link>Sephy
Crono>Mario, Cloud>Sephiroth, Link>Cloud

and possibly

Crono>Mario, Cloud>Sephiroth, Cloud>Link
Crono>Mario, Sephiroth>Cloud, Sephy>Link
Mario>Crono, Sephiroth>Cloud, Sephy>Link

If that happens there will be a perfect bracket. At least as one of the above 2 happens. And now tell us there will never be a perfect bracket in a contest.
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And yes I know my username is lame.
From: nifboy | Posted: 9/14/2004 1:14:10 PM | Message Detail
....Eh?

Since when did I have Ryu (NG) beating Sora? Sora's in my bracket...

Could I get this minor problem fixed please?
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/14/2004 9:41:34 PM | Message Detail
Alright, fixed it nif. Auron and Seph take the wins these last two day, but no changes to the scoreboard just yet. We will be getting one either tonight or tomorrow afternoon, depending if I manage to stay up, thanks to Mmage's gutsy Ryu call. So stay tuned!

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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/14/2004 9:42:46 PM | Message Detail
Gogo guts!!!
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From: Forceful Dragon | Posted: 9/14/2004 9:45:41 PM | Message Detail
Err, how many gurus have ryu and how many have sonic? Does anyone know?
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/14/2004 9:47:09 PM | Message Detail
I believe one particularly stupid one has Ryu and the rest Sonic.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/15/2004 1:10:33 AM | Message Detail
that's ok mm, we didn't look so stupid when we were in the minority of mc, granted it was wrong...but we can blame the guru's themselves for blatantly tipping the scales in frog's favor
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From: MMXcalibur | Posted: 9/15/2004 1:13:05 AM | Message Detail
I believe one particularly stupid one has Ryu and the rest Sonic.

Right now....it doesn't look so stupid to have Ryu.
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From: MMXcalibur | Posted: 9/15/2004 5:41:29 AM | Message Detail
However...right NOW...it does look stupid to have Ryu winning.
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/15/2004 5:42:02 AM | Message Detail
I'm gonna exercise the power of HM optimism...
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From: neoblackmage | Posted: 9/15/2004 6:51:45 AM | Message Detail
BLARG. High is 192. I peak at 188...

This can't be good.
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From: steve illumina | Posted: 9/15/2004 9:13:01 AM | Message Detail
And steve, I made all the edits to your bracket. I went back over the original bracket topic, and you had indeed picked Magus to win only that opening match, so I just went ahead and gave you the benefit of the doubt on the rest of the changes as well.

For great justice, my friend! :)
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Perfects to Fall: 5 SC2K4: 53/58 (Go RYU H!)
From: perdevious | Posted: 9/15/2004 11:38:37 AM | Message Detail
Tomorrow is probably the highest I'll ever be in this thing... That is, unless Tails pulls a major upset...
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/16/2004 1:18:49 AM | Message Detail
Alas, poor Mmage... we hardly knew ye. But with 65/66 taking Sonic, here's the new Scoreboard.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 58
2nd Ngamer 57
3rd Smurf Thy Legend 57
4th red sox 57
5th Mac Arrowny 57
6th Heroic Mario 57
7th ChichiriMuyo 57
8th Steinershocker 57
9th BeTheMan 57
10th King Morgoth 57
11th YokeI 57
12th cavedog 57
13th HaRRicH 57
14th MasterMage 56
15th Fantusta 56
16th UltimaterializerX 56
17th KrustytheKlown 56
18th Haste2 56
19th Hogasm 56
20th tnote 56
21st Riazar 56
22nd FrostHarpy 56
23rd franmars 56
24th Ct. Roy Falcon 56
25th nifboy 56
26th Bananaquest 56
27th arkenaga 56
28th Haunter 56
29th Yesmar 55
30th MMXcalibur 55
31st ExquisiteSamurai 55
32nd andaca 55
33rd TheRye 55
34th fett 55
35th perdevious 55
36th yoblazer 55
37th swirldude 55
38th TeamRocketElite 55
39th Salient 55
40th Aprosenf 55
41st irriadin 55
42nd Bocase 55
43rd steve illumina 55
44th Cavemanbob 54
45th cyko 54
46th Lt. Kettch 54
47th Tai 54
48th RamzaB 54
49th TyRaNuS 54
50th Z1mZum 54
51st Alanna 54
52nd Qwaar 54
53rd FastFalcon 53
54th Vietboizz 53
55th charmander 53
56th Sir Chris 53
57th Rufus Shinra 52
58th Dilated Chemist 52
59th Ringworm 52
60th DomaDragoon 52
61st Garsha 52
62nd WiggumFan 51
63rd Tarrot 51
64th DaruniaTheKing 50
65th jonthomson 50
66th ChibiKuririn 49


Only 70% or so got this one right... and yet only one of the 56 near-flawless brackets (0 or 1 off) were fooled. Dang it, people just won't think differently anymore. A bit of a shakeup today though, as 7 Gurus picked against Dante. The bad news is, 5 of those picks were for V Joe... And things are looking pretty grim for the 2 Tails backers at the moment as well, with Dante sitting pretty above the 60% mark. We'll see how much the Day Vote is able to swing this thing back... though I don't see how it could be enough.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/16/2004 2:13:53 AM | Message Detail
Dante has won, and another question. What's the longest anyone has stayed perfect in a contest so far?
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58/58 points in sc2004
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 9/16/2004 3:45:05 AM | Message Detail
65th jonthomson 50
66th ChibiKuririn 49


Yay, I'm not bottom any more! Now all we need is a Sora win and that...
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 9/16/2004 7:36:06 AM | Message Detail
2nd last match of the 3rd round IIRC. So, if anyone stays perfect past Sonic vs. Dante, which I think is likely, we'll have the record beat.
From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 9/16/2004 7:43:27 AM | Message Detail
In that case, I have already lost.
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/16/2004 7:45:16 AM | Message Detail
Great, only 2 more hard matches and we got that record.
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58/58 points in sc2004
And yes I know my username is lame.
From: perdevious | Posted: 9/16/2004 6:06:13 PM | Message Detail
This is where I go down...
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From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 9/16/2004 6:25:52 PM | Message Detail
According to my program, Mastermage should only have 54 points as he lost 2 from MC and 2 from Ryu. Just letting you know. :P

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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/17/2004 1:11:05 AM | Message Detail
I think this deserves a bump.

please sora, stay with this lead!!!
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/17/2004 1:36:16 AM | Message Detail
The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 60
2nd Ngamer 59
3rd Smurf Thy Legend 59
4th red sox 59
5th Mac Arrowny 59
6th Heroic Mario 59
7th ChichiriMuyo 59
8th Steinershocker 59
9th BeTheMan 59
10th King Morgoth 59
11th cavedog 59
12th HaRRicH 59
13th Fantusta 58
14th UltimaterializerX 58
15th KrustytheKlown 58
16th Haste2 58
17th Hogasm 58
18th tnote 58
19th FrostHarpy 58
20th franmars 58
21st Ct. Roy Falcon 58
22nd nifboy 58
23rd Bananaquest 58
24th arkenaga 58
25th Haunter 58
26th YokeI 57
27th Yesmar 57
28th MMXcalibur 57
29th ExquisiteSamurai 57
30th andaca 57
31st TheRye 57
32nd fett 57
33rd yoblazer 57
34th swirldude 57
35th TeamRocketElite 57
36th Salient 57
37th Aprosenf 57
38th Bocase 57
39th steve illumina 57
40th Riazar 56
41st MasterMage 56
42nd Cavemanbob 56
43rd Lt. Kettch 56
44th Tai 56
45th RamzaB 56
46th TyRaNuS 56
47th Z1mZum 56
48th Alanna 56
49th Qwaar 56
50th perdevious 55
51st irriadin 55
52nd FastFalcon 55
53rd Vietboizz 55
54th charmander 55
55th Sir Chris 55
56th cyko 54
57th Dilated Chemist 54
58th DomaDragoon 54
59th Garsha 54
60th WiggumFan 53
61st Rufus Shinra 52
62nd Ringworm 52
63rd DaruniaTheKing 52
64th jonthomson 52
65th Tarrot 51
66th ChibiKuririn 49


Lost a perfect yesterday, bumping us up to representing 1/4, or 25%. Unfortunately, if these early results hold we may lose ALL our perfects site-wide. Sora is making a push for 58% right now... knew he'd do well on the overnight, but didn't expect this good. Come on, Xbox Day Vote!


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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/17/2004 1:53:32 AM | Message Detail
Sorry about being behind a bit.

Eliminated due to Ryu losing:

-MasterMage (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo)

Eliminated due to Tails losing:

-perdevious (Smurf Thy Legend)
-YokeI (Smurf Thy Legend) - No tiebreaker


Will be eliminated if Ryu Hayabusa wins:

-Hogasm (ps2rulezzz)

Will be eliminated if Sora wins:

-Tarrot (Haste2, Dilated Chemist)

That leaves the following with a chance for victory (Tell me if you think you should be on here, I may have messed up or missed something):

1st ps2rulezzz 60
2nd Ngamer 59
3rd Smurf Thy Legend 59
5th Mac Arrowny 59
6th Heroic Mario 59
7th ChichiriMuyo 59
8th Steinershocker 59
12th HaRRicH 59
16th Haste2 58
17th Hogasm 58
28th MMXcalibur 57
47th Z1mZum 56
57th Dilated Chemist 54
58th DomaDragoon 54
65th Tarrot 51
From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/17/2004 1:59:58 AM | Message Detail
Oh, I think steve is still alive as well, due to his changes. I'll go ahead and add him back to my chart.

So that's 16 gurus remaining.
From: Qwaar | Posted: 9/17/2004 3:11:22 AM | Message Detail
My bracket is over.I can't believe Sora is going to win!
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/17/2004 8:25:20 AM | Message Detail
N-gamer64 I do have a tiebreake but I forgot what it was after entering. But if I get in top 50 and you can see my tiebreaker it will count right?
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 9/18/2004 1:07:36 AM | Message Detail
and sora officially won, yay!
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/18/2004 1:40:19 AM | Message Detail
As long as you never put a dash in my name again, sure.

And things were understandably shaken up a whole lot today, but I'm too tired to run an update. Except that tomorrow aft.

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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 9/18/2004 1:41:45 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, he was too busy beating us up all day because he has an anger problem.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/18/2004 12:10:15 PM | Message Detail
Why, I oughta!

...

*slowly lowers fist*

Alright, deep breaths man, deep breaths. Here is the latest Scoreboard(!)


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 60
2nd Hogasm 60
3rd nifboy 60
4th Ngamer 59
5th Smurf Thy Legend 59
6th red sox 59
7th Mac Arrowny 59
8th Heroic Mario 59
9th ChichiriMuyo 59
10th Steinershocker 59
11th BeTheMan 59
12th King Morgoth 59
13th cavedog 59
14th HaRRicH 59
15th TheRye 59
16th Fantusta 58
17th UltimaterializerX 58
18th KrustytheKlown 58
19th Haste2 58
20th tnote 58
21st FrostHarpy 58
22nd franmars 58
23rd Ct. Roy Falcon 58
24th Bananaquest 58
25th arkenaga 58
26th Haunter 58
27th Tai 58
28th RamzaB 58
29th Cavemanbob 58
30th YokeI 57
31st Yesmar 57
32nd MMXcalibur 57
33rd ExquisiteSamurai 57
34th andaca 57
35th fett 57
36th yoblazer 57
37th swirldude 57
38th TeamRocketElite 57
39th Salient 57
40th Aprosenf 57
41st Bocase 57
42nd steve illumina 57
43rd FastFalcon 57
44th Riazar 56
45th MasterMage 56
46th Lt. Kettch 56
47th TyRaNuS 56
48th Z1mZum 56
49th Alanna 56
50th Qwaar 56
51st perdevious 55
52nd irriadin 55
53rd Vietboizz 55
54th charmander 55
55th Sir Chris 55
56th WiggumFan 55
57th cyko 54
58th Dilated Chemist 54
59th DomaDragoon 54
60th Garsha 54
61st jonthomson 54
62nd Rufus Shinra 52
63rd Ringworm 52
64th DaruniaTheKing 52
65th Tarrot 51
66th ChibiKuririn 49


The good news (at least for me) is that all three of our 60 pointers have Link picked as Champion, meaning me and my two cookie cutting friends are still looking great for the Guru win. The bad news is, it doesn't look like a Guru will be taking home the overall Championship this time... I think our only hope is that all three of the Cloud pickers at 61 have Mario picked as well, which would let ps2 sneak by for the Championship. But I don't see that as very likely. Also, we've fallen to having only 3 representatives in the Top 50 right now.

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From: Ma Chao the Wanderer | Posted: 9/18/2004 1:50:58 PM | Message Detail
Argghh down to 5th!

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/19/2004 2:39:04 AM | Message Detail
Samus wins big, and now it looks like Link has a shot to win even bigger. Pretty high % for picking Sam, and I don't think anyone near the top missed it at all.

Just 22 hours now... 22 hours.

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From: PugTheNinja | Posted: 9/19/2004 2:55:03 AM | Message Detail
although im not a guru, im in the top 50 with crono beating mario and cloud winning it all.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/19/2004 10:19:33 AM | Message Detail
That's neat. So for you, it comes down to if The Gunva, neoatomtaco, and... that one other Cloud picker... all took Mario for tomorrow. Which I have a hard time seeing.

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From: KrahenProphet | Posted: 9/19/2004 10:46:58 AM | Message Detail
It's a shame I'm not in this.. because I would be in 1st place.
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Losses - Shadow, Jill || Today - Link | Tomorrow- Crono
From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/19/2004 2:33:32 PM | Message Detail
Mass carnage either way tomorrow. The following will be eliminated with a Crono victory:

SteinerShocker (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo)
Mac Arrowny (ps2rulezzz, Hogasm)
Harrich (ps2rulezzz, Hogasm)
Smurf Thy Legend (mmxcalibur)
Dilated Chemist (Haste2)

And the following will be eliminated with a Mario victory:

Ngamer (SteinerShocker)
ChichiriMuyo (SteinerShocker)
ps2rulezzz (Mac Arrowny, Harrich)
Hogasm (Mac Arrowny, Harrich)
steve illumina (Mac Arrowny, Harrich)
mmxcalibur (Smurf Thy Legend)
Haste2 (Dilated Chemist)

The only brackets not on the line are the Mega Man trio (DomaDragoon, Heroic Mario, and Z1mZum).
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 9/19/2004 2:37:38 PM | Message Detail
Mario supporters are in the minority here...but by golly, we'll fight to the bitter end over here!
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/19/2004 11:06:09 PM | Message Detail
"I think our only hope is that all three of the Cloud pickers at 61 have Mario picked as well"

It's possible that those brackets are made almost strictly off of previous matches/extrapolated standings, and if they are then they may have all taken Mario.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/21/2004 1:07:59 AM | Message Detail
Ok, I'll get his arms, you take him by the legs, alright Chic? Heave... ho!

*tosses SteinerShocker over the top rope*

My goodness, were the rankings ever shaken up by this one! I'm just going to get right to the scoreboard.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 70
2nd Hogasm 70
3rd nifboy 70
4th Ngamer 69
5th red sox 69
6th ChichiriMuyo 69
7th BeTheMan 69
8th King Morgoth 69
9th cavedog 69
10th Fantusta 68
11th UltimaterializerX 68
12th KrustytheKlown 68
13th Haste2 68
14th tnote 68
15th FrostHarpy 68
16th franmars 68
17th Ct. Roy Falcon 68
18th RamzaB 68
19th Cavemanbob 68
20th TheRye 67
21st MMXcalibur 67
22nd ExquisiteSamurai 67
23rd andaca 67
24th yoblazer 67
25th TeamRocketElite 67
26th Salient 67
27th Aprosenf 67
28th steve illumina 67
29th Riazar 66
30th MasterMage 66
31st Z1mZum 66
32nd Alanna 66
33rd Qwaar 66
34th Smurf Thy Legend 65
35th Mac Arrowny 65
36th Heroic Mario 65
37th Steinershocker 65
38th HaRRicH 65
39th Vietboizz 65
40th Sir Chris 65
41st Bananaquest 64
42nd arkenaga 64
43rd Haunter 64
44th Tai 64
45th cyko 64
46th jonthomson 64
47th YokeI 63
48th Yesmar 63
49th fett 63
50th swirldude 63
51st Bocase 63
52nd FastFalcon 63
53rd Lt. Kettch 62
54th TyRaNuS 62
55th Rufus Shinra 62
56th Ringworm 62
57th perdevious 61
58th irriadin 61
59th charmander 61
60th WiggumFan 61
61st Tarrot 61
62nd Dilated Chemist 60
63rd DomaDragoon 60
64th Garsha 60
65th ChibiKuririn 59
66th DaruniaTheKing 58


Pretty major changes sitewide as well, with only 38% backing Crono. 10 ahead of me fell, moving us -3s up to 32nd place. Over ten new spots were cleared on the Big Board, but no Gurus filled them in... with 9 of us still within 3 pts of perfect though, should have a decent shot at breaking the record of 5 before things are all said and done.

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From: PugTheNinja | Posted: 9/21/2004 1:13:05 AM | Message Detail
2 out of 3 cloud pickers fell, not quite what i had hoped for but still pretty good, hopefully he has a non-cookie cutter pick in one of the remaining matches
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From: thundersheep | Posted: 9/21/2004 1:15:23 AM | Message Detail
I wanna be a guru next contest, I have nothing to back my claims ever, but I have 67 points

>_>

<_<

Samus over Sonic
Mega Man over Snake
Cloud over Link
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/21/2004 1:27:29 AM | Message Detail
There are now 10 brackets remaining with a chance to win.

Looks like this one is actually reasonably close, so the following would be eliminated with a Zero victory:

Heroic Mario (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo, ps2rulezzz, Hogasm)
Domadragoon (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo)
Z1mZum (Haste2, mmxcalibur)

And for tomorrow, the following would be eliminated with a Frog victory:

ps2rulezzz (steve illumina)
Hogasm (steve illumina)

With a Snake victory:

steve illumina (ps2rulezzz, Hogasm)
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/22/2004 6:18:41 AM | Message Detail
We all advance another 4 points with the Mega Man victory yesterday. Pretty surprisingly low number of total brackets knew it would happen, around 52%, but as would be expected none of the nearly perfects were affected.

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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 9/22/2004 8:16:09 AM | Message Detail
Right now.. I am at 69 points

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From: Nebel | Posted: 9/22/2004 8:22:21 AM | Message Detail
My mistakes:

I picked Kefka, KOS-MOS (Yes, I'm that dumb), and Freeman.

Right Decisions I lost points on anyways:

Sora over Ryu

Overall: 71/76

Outlook for end of 3rd: I have Snake, Cloud, Sephiroth, Sonic, and Samus for this round.

I should be able to close it with a spectacular 91/96.

My current score places me in the Top 375.
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From: Nebel | Posted: 9/22/2004 8:23:47 AM | Message Detail
Incidentally, how do I become a guru?

If I don't suicide my account like I did with Sephiroth, I'd like to be one if there's another contest, and I certainly would say that I'm good enough.
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/22/2004 8:29:49 AM | Message Detail
^Sign up during the run up to the next contest. We had something like 80 people sign up, 50 or so of those actually submitted brackets and are eligible to win. The only requirement is that you submit a completed bracket and that you don't use alts to post multiple brackets to the Guru contest.
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From: RamzaB | Posted: 9/22/2004 8:38:03 AM | Message Detail
ATTN: Ngamer

I have 66 points, as I've stated before I had Jak over Auron, was the only idiot dumb enough to take that particular risk, and lost. You don't have that wrong pick bolded on the scoreboard under my name though, and you've credited me with 68 points, which I haven't earned. I assume that will be fixed once my erroneus pick of Jak is recognized.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened?
From: Steinershocker | Posted: 9/22/2004 9:01:09 AM | Message Detail
Well, like I said way back on page 1 I think, I had Crono, but you decided to keep me with mario anyway. I would have been eliminated long ago had you changed me to Crono, so *shrug*
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Lettuce Kefka > all
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/22/2004 4:21:45 PM | Message Detail
And those signups take place in the Stats topic, so if you really plan on being a Guru next time around, might as well start looking in there now.

ExSam, I've told you many times now what you need to do if you want your bracket updated for this Guru Contest, so I'm not going to take the type typing it again. If you really want those 2 points, look a page back at what I told you there.

On a sidenote, I can't believe Lake and Snake are this close.

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From: dethwing | Posted: 9/22/2004 4:27:31 PM | Message Detail
Right Decisions I lost points on anyways:

Sora over Ryu


This make no sense. How do you lose points on a right choice?
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From: KeepOnSmashing | Posted: 9/22/2004 4:34:58 PM | Message Detail
And those signups take place in the Stats topic

they do?? where?
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From: red sox 777 | Posted: 9/22/2004 4:41:36 PM | Message Detail
Search for "stat." The topic is called Stats and Discussion, currently on Part 69 I think. Guru Contest Sign-ups are usually held in the month prior to the beginning of a contest.
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/23/2004 2:12:26 AM | Message Detail
The 9 remaining brackets with a chance to win, their upsets, and tie breaker if relevant.

Ngamer 77 (63218)
-None
ChichiriMuyo 77 (65000)
-None
DomaDragoon 68
-Mega Man

ps2rulezzz 78 (None)
-Link
Hogasm 78 (None)
-Link
MMXcalibur 75
-Sephiroth-Sephiroth-Link

Haste2 76
-Sephiroth-Sephiroth-Sephiroth

Heroic Mario 73
-Mega Man-Mega Man
Z1mZum 74
-Sephiroth-Mega Man-Sephiroth-Mega Man
From: dethwing | Posted: 9/23/2004 9:03:12 AM | Message Detail
Hmm...haste, do you remember your TB? We might end up tied.
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From: Z1mZum | Posted: 9/23/2004 9:44:08 AM | Message Detail
Go Mega Man. And go...Sephiroth?

Never though I'd say that..
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 9/23/2004 10:29:49 AM | Message Detail
Getting tighter and tighter now.
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And kudos to Chichiri for that little thingy on SS. That's why you people have every right to be "elitist". - Slowflake
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/24/2004 1:16:14 AM | Message Detail
Cloud takes it easily, now Seph is set to do the same. We all called it, as did everyone else highly ranked. Ho hum.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/25/2004 1:05:51 AM | Message Detail
Seph wins, we all said so. Sonic is off to a fantastic start against Dante, looks like he won't even break a sweat in pulling this off. 65/66 of us saw this coming, with the lone risktaker being of course Mmage.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/26/2004 5:23:49 AM | Message Detail
Woaah it has been quiet here lately. Ngamer when are you going to post the stats after round 3?
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/26/2004 10:42:36 AM | Message Detail
We had 65/66 pick the right winner the last two days. But yes, with Samus still having a very comfortable lead, might as well call this match over and give out the end of Round Three stats.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 94
2nd Hogasm 94
3rd nifboy 94
4th Ngamer 93
5th red sox 93
6th ChichiriMuyo 93
7th BeTheMan 93
8th King Morgoth 93
9th cavedog 93
10th Fantusta 92
11th UltimaterializerX 92
12th KrustytheKlown 92
13th Haste2 92
14th tnote 92
15th FrostHarpy 92
16th franmars 92
17th Ct. Roy Falcon 92
18th Cavemanbob 92
19th TheRye 91
20th MMXcalibur 91
21st ExquisiteSamurai 91
22nd andaca 91
23rd yoblazer 91
24th TeamRocketElite 91
25th Salient 91
26th Aprosenf 91
27th RamzaB 90
28th Riazar 90
29th Z1mZum 90
30th Alanna 90
31st Qwaar 90
32nd Smurf Thy Legend 89
33rd Mac Arrowny 89
34th Heroic Mario 89
35th Steinershocker 89
36th HaRRicH 89
37th Vietboizz 89
38th Sir Chris 89
39th Bananaquest 88
40th arkenaga 88
41st Haunter 88
42nd Tai 88
43rd cyko 88
44th jonthomson 88
45th steve illumina 87
46th YokeI 87
47th Yesmar 87
48th fett 87
49th swirldude 87
50th Bocase 87
51st FastFalcon 87
52nd MasterMage 86
53rd Lt. Kettch 86
54th TyRaNuS 86
55th Rufus Shinra 86
56th Ringworm 86
57th perdevious 85
58th irriadin 85
59th charmander 85
60th WiggumFan 85
61st Dilated Chemist 84
62nd DomaDragoon 84
63rd Garsha 84
64th DaruniaTheKing 82
65th Tarrot 81
66th ChibiKuririn 79


We've got 100% agreements the next two days... kind of surprising, I thought at least someone would be tempted into going with a Snake upset special.

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From: Alanna82 | Posted: 9/26/2004 11:22:27 AM | Message Detail
how come steiner is on the leaderboard, but here he has less points than I do? Thats not right....
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/26/2004 6:07:45 PM | Message Detail
He accidentally put Mario down for the guru challenge, but had Crono in his bracket.

Only 1 bracket on the line tomorrow. Eliminated with a Crono victory:

20th MMXcalibur 91 (Haste2)
From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/27/2004 10:13:28 AM | Message Detail
:D A 190 bracket is looking very possible now for me.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/27/2004 11:16:53 PM | Message Detail
Link wins, by a bigger margin than pretty much anyone saw possible. Tomorrow will be a little more interesting, %-wise, but as I said before, it's still a 66/66 for Mega.

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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/28/2004 3:55:47 AM | Message Detail
Close match today. The following would be eliminated with a Snake victory:

29th Z1mZum 98 (Haste2)
34th Heroic Mario 97 (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo, ps2rulezzz, Hogasm)
62nd DomaDragoon 92 (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo)
From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/29/2004 1:09:02 AM | Message Detail
And they all survive. Onto the biggest match of the tournament so far. For the first time, every remaining bracket is on the line.

Eliminated with a Sephiroth victory:

Ngamer (Haste2, MMXcalibur)
ChichiriMuyo (Haste2, MMXcalibur)
DomaDragoon (Z1mZum)
ps2rulezzz (MMXcalibur)
Hogasm (MMXcalibur)
Heroic Mario (Z1mZum)

Eliminated with a Cloud victory:

MMXcalibur (ps2rulezzz, Hogasm)
Haste2 (Ngamer, ChichiriMuyo, ps2rulezzz, Hogasm)
Z1mZum (Heroic Mario)
From: Z1mZum | Posted: 9/29/2004 12:05:52 PM | Message Detail
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From: Caelus | Posted: 9/29/2004 12:13:00 PM | Message Detail
whoa! best guru score is 94? That's what I have :P

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/29/2004 12:30:28 PM | Message Detail
Ehhhm no, the best guru is at 110.
Those weren't the updated results after Megamans match.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/29/2004 12:53:20 PM | Message Detail
What a crazy performance out of Cloud! Just when you thought it was safe to call Link the favorite... Boy, that's going to be a heck of a Final. But, I'm still going to wait a little before calling this match over and doing the new results. Because... I don't know why. I can do stats for this match though.

Gurus --> Board

Cloud 51 77.27% 100 84.03%
Seph 15 22.73% 19 15.97%

-6.76% loss in confidence for Cloud. Will be one of the few time the Board beats us, %wise.

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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/29/2004 1:52:29 PM | Message Detail
What happens if Link wins the finals? Hogasm and I have exactly the same, and we both don't have a tiebraker.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/29/2004 6:36:28 PM | Message Detail
Cloud wins! And talk about a shakeup. Here's the new ranks, folks:

The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 118
2nd Hogasm 118
3rd nifboy 118
4th Ngamer 117
5th red sox 117
6th ChichiriMuyo 117
7th BeTheMan 117
8th King Morgoth 117
9th cavedog 117
10th Fantusta 116
11th UltimaterializerX 116
12th KrustytheKlown 116
13th tnote 116
14th FrostHarpy 116
15th franmars 116
16th Ct. Roy Falcon 116
17th Cavemanbob 116
18th TheRye 115
19th ExquisiteSamurai 115
20th TeamRocketElite 115
21st Salient 115
22nd Aprosenf 115
23rd RamzaB 114
24th Riazar 114
25th Alanna 114
26th Qwaar 114
27th Mac Arrowny 113
28th Heroic Mario 113
29th Steinershocker 113
30th HaRRicH 113
31st Vietboizz 113
32nd Sir Chris 113
33rd Bananaquest 112
34th arkenaga 112
35th Haunter 112
36th Tai 112
37th cyko 112
38th steve illumina 111
39th Yesmar 111
40th fett 111
41st swirldude 111
42nd Bocase 111
43rd FastFalcon 111
44th MasterMage 110
45th TyRaNuS 110
46th Ringworm 110
47th irriadin 109
48th charmander 109
49th WiggumFan 109
50th Haste2 108
51st DomaDragoon 108
52nd Garsha 108
53rd MMXcalibur 107
54th andaca 107
55th yoblazer 107
56th Z1mZum 106
57th DaruniaTheKing 106
58th Smurf Thy Legend 105
59th jonthomson 104
60th YokeI 103
61st Lt. Kettch 102
62nd Rufus Shinra 102
63rd perdevious 101
64th Dilated Chemist 100
65th Tarrot 97
66th ChibiKuririn 95


And I can tell you ps2, but you're not going to like it. The options are, if CJay posts tiebreakers for everyone in the top 50 this year, we'll go by those to split the tie. If he doesn't, then nifboy wins. (He was accidently thought to have been eliminated earlier, but made a comeback with his Sora pick, and so will force a 3 way tie if Link takes it.)

So no matter if Cloud or Link wins, it's going to be a tie. Just a matter of whether it goes 3 or 4 ways.

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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 9/29/2004 6:42:03 PM | Message Detail
Actually, the top 50 is arranged in order of score and then ordered correctly by the tiebreakers so whichever has the highest rank in the end really does have the closest tiebreaker.
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From: Lieutenant Kettch | Posted: 9/30/2004 2:24:37 AM | Message Detail
Ugh, I skipped over all of the italicized names, so I didn't see nifboy. Sorry about that guys. Since Ngamer said those without tiebreakers still have a chance, I'll go ahead and add BeTheMan back in as well. I also don't know why cavedog was on an earlier eliminated list, he appears to still be alive.

MMXcalibur, Haste2, and Z1mZum are eliminated because of Cloud's victory.

Brackets remaining:

117 Ngamer (63218)
117 ChichiriMuyo (65000)
117 cavedog (71000)
117 BeTheMan (Unknown)
108 DomaDragoon
-Mega Man

118 nifboy (60000)
-Link
118 ps2rulezzz (Unknown)
-Link
118 Hogasm (Unknown)
-Link

113 Heroic Mario
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From: BeTheMan | Posted: 9/30/2004 12:06:05 PM | Message Detail
I can't remember exactly what my tiebreaker was, but it was somewhere in the mid 50k range, so unless the last match whips up some crazy vote totals, I'm in good shape if Cloud takes it.
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From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 9/30/2004 1:20:03 PM | Message Detail
WOAAaa, it really sucks if I lose on a tiebraker.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 9/30/2004 5:24:11 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, so it does ps2, but unless Mega Man comes through for HM (heh), alot of people are going to have to deal with the heartbreak this year. But that's some very good news from Mmage. If he's right, and CJay uses the same system for ranking the Top 50 again this year (I don't see why he wouldn't), then whichever Guru is ranked highest there will be our official champ and go into the 66 sigs. I guess it will be up to each person if they'd like to also mention the others that tied...

And although it may not have anything to do with being a Guru, I'd like to celebrate a milestone here in this topic, since it's going to be saved away into the Archive for all time in a few days.

Happy 1337 Day to me!

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From: iGenesis | Posted: 10/1/2004 1:18:17 AM | Message Detail
Cloud
-3 Ngamer (63218)
-3 ChichiriMuyo (65000)
-3 cavedog (71000)
-3 BeTheMan (Unknown)

Link
-2 nifboy (60000)
-2 ps2rulezzz (Unknown)
-2 Hogasm (Unknown)
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/1/2004 8:59:36 AM | Message Detail
Well, I tried. At least I did better than I did this spring. I'm just no good at picking the right upsets. This will be the second time that Link's knocked me out of contention completely.
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From: tnote827 | Posted: 10/1/2004 9:04:11 AM | Message Detail
Heh, the funny thing about this contest, is you can know exactly what you are doing, be perfect up until Cloud/Link, miss that match, one match in the entire tournament, but since most of these matches are such gimmies, you won't even finish in the top 10% of entries. Take March Madness, and if you only miss 32 points, chances are you could be walking home with some serious money.

...which is all the more reason CJayC should let Board 8 create the SC2k5 bracket.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/2/2004 1:42:53 AM | Message Detail
And thus, we say a final goodbye to the Mega Man Three.

The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 142
2nd Hogasm 142
3rd nifboy 142
4th Ngamer 141
5th red sox 141
6th ChichiriMuyo 141
7th BeTheMan 141
8th King Morgoth 141
9th cavedog 141
10th Fantusta 140
11th UltimaterializerX 140
12th KrustytheKlown 140
13th tnote 140
14th FrostHarpy 140
15th franmars 140
16th Ct. Roy Falcon 140
17th Cavemanbob 140
18th TheRye 139
19th ExquisiteSamurai 139
20th TeamRocketElite 139
21st Salient 139
22nd Aprosenf 139
23rd RamzaB 138
24th Riazar 138
25th Alanna 138
26th Qwaar 138
27th Mac Arrowny 137
28th Steinershocker 137
29th HaRRicH 137
30th Vietboizz 137
31st Sir Chris 137
32nd Bananaquest 136
33rd arkenaga 136
34th Haunter 136
35th Tai 136
36th cyko 136
37th steve illumina 135
38th Yesmar 135
39th fett 135
40th swirldude 135
41st Bocase 135
42nd FastFalcon 135
43rd MasterMage 134
44th TyRaNuS 134
45th Ringworm 134
46th irriadin 133
47th charmander 133
48th WiggumFan 133
49th Haste2 132
50th Garsha 132
51st MMXcalibur 131
52nd andaca 131
53rd yoblazer 131
54th DaruniaTheKing 130
55th Smurf Thy Legend 129
56th jonthomson 128
57th YokeI 127
58th Lt. Kettch 126
59th Rufus Shinra 126
60th perdevious 125
61st Dilated Chemist 124
62nd Heroic Mario 121
63rd ChibiKuririn 119
64th DomaDragoon 116
65th Z1mZum 114
66th Tarrot 113


No one took Samus for today, but enough backed Seph to shake up the rankings a little bit more before the Final.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/2/2004 8:31:59 PM | Message Detail
Gah, the most exciting Final in Contest history coming up in a few hours. Talk about it, someone!

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From: fallenstar | Posted: 10/2/2004 8:34:28 PM | Message Detail
Link's going to kill my bracket.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/2/2004 8:35:51 PM | Message Detail
I get the feeling it won't be exciting one way or the other, myself.

The three gurus left are on the leaderboard, right? We'll find out who I'm putting in my sig tomorrow night =)
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/2/2004 10:59:31 PM | Message Detail
Speaking of putting things here to have copies of them, here's my outlook on tomorrow, from the Oracle topic.


Talk about your sticky situations. Same match last year finished as a 51.61% victory for Cloud. Now people are saying that he can't do it again, because he's only putting up 59% on Samus, whereas Link got 62% on her last year. But the question I'd have to ask would be, how much SFF was there in that match? After seeing what Zelda games did to Metroid games this Spring, is 3% really that unthinkable? Going along with that line of thought, maybe Prime really DID give Samus a major boost already last year. As I recall, heading into the Link match it certainly looked like it, given the way she destroyed the same Squall who had just upset Luigi in a big way.

Ok, so at this point I think I could still justify sticking with my bracket and taking Cloud. But then, I still have to take into account Link's apparent gain over the past year. He should have gotten 61.40% on Mega. Instead he got 67.61%. Where did the 6.21% come from? Alot of people are saying the idea of Link SFFing Mega is ridiculous... But think about this: Mega's strength has always been based off losses to Square (namely, Seph). Only one time have we been given a glimpse into what would happen if MM faced an at least somewhat decent Nintendo character, one whose fanbase likewise overlapped all through the NES and SNES eras. Interestingly enough, that one instance is also [i]the only time Mega Man has shown a weakness[/i], when he failed to break 61% on Zelda. Looking at it that way, we shouldn't have been so shocked to see Link, from the identical fanbase, look better than most thought possible last round.

And the 62.82 on Crono? Same thing. I get the feeling that Crono was likewise held back this year, as he has been every year, by having his strength determined through losses to Nintendo's top two (or is it now two of its top three?). Were he to draw Cloud or Seph, I bet his strength could end up much closer to the 58%-vs-eventual-champ that his game put up against FF7. He just owes too much of his popularity to an SNES era during which much of his fanbase preferred the sales monster that was LttP.

Alright... have I convinced myself yet? Hm... not quite. Let's look at what else Link has done. Assuming we throw out MM and Crono due to some SFF... and of COURSE we've got to toss Yoshi and Ganon, that's just obvious SFF. Leaving us with, let's see here... CATS. Ok, Link put up 87.83% there. Cloud '03 did, um... 86.91%. Aw, CRAP! There's no way I can justify SFF in that one. All that rationalizing, just to be done in by CATS. But that's ok... although I can't convince myself that Cloud will come out ahead, I DO know that's it going to be a much more narrow victory than most are giving it credit for.

And so, in the end I'm going to say:

Link with 50.07%

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Speaking of the Top 50! If Link wins, the following Gurus will make it:

ps2rulezzz 142 Link
Hogasm 142 Link
nifboy 142 Link
red sox 141 Link
King Morgoth 141 Link
Steinershocker 137 Cloud (whose actual bracket showed a pick for Crono)

Which will beat our old record of 5! Plus, the following have a slim shot of being up there as well:

KrustytheKlown 140 Link
Cavemanbob 140 Link

Depending how good their tiebreakers end up being.

And if Cloud is able to pull the upset, we'll be saying hello to

Ngamer 141 Cloud
ChichiriMuyo 141 Cloud
BeTheMan 141 Cloud
cavedog 141 Cloud

For sure, with a chance of also possibly seeing

Fantusta 140 Cloud
UltimaterializerX 140 Cloud
tnote 140 Cloud
FrostHarpy 140 Cloud
franmars 140 Cloud
Ct. Roy Falcon 140 Cloud


Either way, I'll be happy as long as Cloud is able to make it interesting.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/2/2004 11:21:59 PM | Message Detail
Oh yeah, and here's the results heading into the Championship.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st ps2rulezzz 158
2nd Hogasm 158
3rd nifboy 158
4th Ngamer 157
5th red sox 157
6th ChichiriMuyo 157
7th BeTheMan 157
8th King Morgoth 157
9th cavedog 157
10th Fantusta 156
11th UltimaterializerX 156
12th KrustytheKlown 156
13th tnote 156
14th FrostHarpy 156
15th franmars 156
16th Ct. Roy Falcon 156
17th Cavemanbob 156
18th TheRye 155
19th ExquisiteSamurai 155
20th TeamRocketElite 155
21st Salient 155
22nd Aprosenf 155
23rd RamzaB 154
24th Riazar 154
25th Alanna 154
26th Qwaar 154
27th Mac Arrowny 153
28th Steinershocker 153
29th HaRRicH 153
30th Vietboizz 153
31st Sir Chris 153
32nd Bananaquest 152
33rd arkenaga 152
34th Haunter 152
35th Tai 152
36th cyko 152
37th steve illumina 151
38th Yesmar 151
39th fett 151
40th swirldude 151
41st Bocase 151
42nd FastFalcon 151
43rd MasterMage 150
44th TyRaNuS 150
45th Ringworm 150
46th irriadin 149
47th charmander 149
48th WiggumFan 149
49th Garsha 148
50th DaruniaTheKing 146
51st Heroic Mario 137
52nd Haste2 132
53rd DomaDragoon 132
54th MMXcalibur 131
55th andaca 131
56th yoblazer 131
57th Smurf Thy Legend 129
58th jonthomson 128
59th YokeI 127
60th Lt. Kettch 126
61st Rufus Shinra 126
62nd perdevious 125
63rd Dilated Chemist 124
64th ChibiKuririn 119
65th Z1mZum 114
66th Tarrot 113


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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/2/2004 11:24:05 PM | Message Detail
Moment of truth is comming, man. Haven't hit the leaderboard once this whole tournament, I damn well better see Cloud win tomorrow, even if it does mean som escrewed up things will happen in the XSt.
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From: Ringworm | Posted: 10/2/2004 11:38:01 PM | Message Detail
I really wish I'd gone back over my bracket. Made some stupid mistakes, such as Vercetti over Zero without even realising it. There were other matches such as Laharl v Vyse where I knew I'd made mistakes too. I'll only drop 10 points overall if Link wins though, which is pretty good.

I'll have sig space in about 25 mins, so good luck to whoevers name gets put there.
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/2/2004 11:42:20 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, you leaders. Start working up something witty. I don't want to have to resort to thinking for myself, now.
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 10/2/2004 11:42:21 PM | Message Detail
Won't be too bad if I manage to end with 189 points...
But I'll still have to make some room in my sig....ugggggh
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/2/2004 11:46:33 PM | Message Detail
Speaking of which, wouldn't it be cool if this topic reached 500 soon after the Championship went final?

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From: Milly McMill | Posted: 10/2/2004 11:46:38 PM | Message Detail
Yes. Yes it would.

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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 10/3/2004 2:18:10 AM | Message Detail
omg^^^
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/3/2004 11:21:46 AM | Message Detail
Wow, was this match ever close this morning. Link may have pushed it out now... doubt Cloud will be able to make a big enough push in the final hours to take it.

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/3/2004 11:27:00 AM | Message Detail
After Link wins, do we have to wait for the final contest stats before we know who to put in our sigs? Two guys forgot their tiebreakers.
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From: Ludwig Von 2 | Posted: 10/3/2004 11:29:42 AM | Message Detail
congradulations to whoever wins.
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From: perdevious | Posted: 10/3/2004 11:31:27 AM | Message Detail
Wow. I'm gonna be beating Ulti by one point... Haha!
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/4/2004 12:21:56 AM | Message Detail
Link holds a commanding lead with less than an hour to go... and so, I present to you this Season's final standings.


The Contest Guru Scoreboard

1st nifboy 190 Link
2nd ps2rulezzz 190 Link
3rd Hogasm 190 Link
4th red sox 189 Link
5th King Morgoth 189 Link
6th KrustytheKlown 188 Link
7th Cavemanbob 188 Link
8th TeamRocketElite 187 Link
9th Mac Arrowny 185 Link
10th HaRRicH 185 Link
11th Sir Chris 185 Link
12th Tai 184 Link
13th steve illumina 183 Link
14th fett 183 Link
15th FastFalcon 183 Link
16th TyRaNuS 182 Link
17th Ringworm 182 Link
18th irriadin 181 Link
19th charmander 181 Link
20th WiggumFan 181 Link
21st Garsha 180 Link
22nd DaruniaTheKing 178 Link
23rd MMXcalibur 163 Link
24th yoblazer 163 Link
25th Smurf Thy Legend 161 Link
26th YokeI 159 Link
27th Rufus Shinra 158 Link
28th Ngamer 157 Cloud
29th ChichiriMuyo 157 Cloud
30th BeTheMan 157 Cloud
31st cavedog 157 Cloud
32nd perdevious 157 Link
33rd Fantusta 156 Cloud
34th UltimaterializerX 156 Cloud
35th tnote 156 Cloud
36th FrostHarpy 156 Cloud
37th franmars 156 Cloud
38th Ct. Roy Falcon 156 Cloud
39th TheRye 155 Cloud
40th ExquisiteSamurai 155 Cloud
41st Salient 155 Cloud
42nd Aprosenf 155 Cloud
43rd RamzaB 154 Cloud
44th Riazar 154 Cloud
45th Alanna 154 Cloud
46th Qwaar 154 Cloud
47th Steinershocker 153 Cloud
48th Vietboizz 153 Cloud
49th Bananaquest 152 Cloud
50th arkenaga 152 Cloud
51st Haunter 152 Cloud
52nd cyko 152 Cloud
53rd Yesmar 151 Cloud
54th swirldude 151 Cloud
55th Bocase 151 Cloud
56th ChibiKuririn 151 Link
57th MasterMage 150 Cloud
58th Heroic Mario 137 Mega Man
59th Haste2 132 Sephiroth
60th DomaDragoon 132 Cloud
61st andaca 131 Sephiroth
62nd jonthomson 128 Sephiroth
63rd Lt. Kettch 126 Sephiroth
64th Dilated Chemist 124 Sephiroth
65th Z1mZum 114 Mega Man
66th Tarrot 113 Sephiroth


As for the sigs, the way I see it, we have two options before us. When the final rankings are revealed, including tiebreakers, we will know for certain who came out on top, and should all be sure to name that person. But until that time, if you have room for only one user in your sig, make it nifboy. He followed along carefully enough to include his tiebreaker when originally asked, and should be rewarded for it. The other option, and this is the one I'm taking, is to mention all three as co-champions. It's up to you, but I've decided to keep my sig like this for the remainder of the offseason.

Congrats to our Champs, and congrats to Link. Long live Nintendo! (why oh why did I pick against it?)

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From: Sir Chris | Posted: 10/4/2004 12:27:24 AM | Message Detail
Eh, Didn't do too badly, now atleast I have a sig
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From: nifboy | Posted: 10/4/2004 12:54:55 AM | Message Detail
*does a happy little dance*
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Co-champion of the Summer 2k4 Guru bracket challenge,
along with ps2rulezz and Hogasm, with 190 points!
From: Cavemanbob | Posted: 10/4/2004 12:56:09 AM | Message Detail
woot! Seventh!

I'll change my sig soon.
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From: steve illumina | Posted: 10/4/2004 6:59:23 AM | Message Detail
Well congrats to all 3 cochamps..and wow 13th for me aint too bad :)
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/4/2004 9:15:37 AM | Message Detail
nifboy, Steve, not NFLboy!

I'll have some cool stats and things late tonight, watch here for them.

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From: franmars | Posted: 10/4/2004 9:19:02 AM | Message Detail
Congrats to the three champions. I hope your tiebreakers enable you all to get a prize (The top ten get prizes don't they?)
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/4/2004 9:19:58 AM | Message Detail
I changed my sig already.
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I am little more than a slug among the food chain that is Board 8, but perhaps if I were as cool as nifboy, that would not be the case. Congrats, nifboy! =)
From: Z1mZum | Posted: 10/4/2004 10:16:41 AM | Message Detail
Second to last?! I guess that's what I get for making some risky choices at the end.

Congrats to the winner(s).
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From: Bocase | Posted: 10/4/2004 10:18:46 AM | Message Detail
Hmm....55th....good enough I suppose.....
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 10/4/2004 10:55:15 AM | Message Detail
Sig changed
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I was gang-pwned by Link and his supporters in the guru contest. Congrats to nifboy, ps2rulezzz, and Hogasm.
From: Salient | Posted: 10/4/2004 12:38:05 PM | Message Detail
dot
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Good God I suck at these contests compared to Nifboy
From: neoblackmage | Posted: 10/4/2004 1:03:23 PM | Message Detail
i'll do this next year... someone remind me.

^_^

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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 10/4/2004 2:55:21 PM | Message Detail
Wow!
My tie breaker is 64576, looks like I won't stay as low as #23 for long...
Congrats to all three of you! Sucks to be pwned by a single point though =P
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From: Garsha | Posted: 10/4/2004 2:57:08 PM | Message Detail
Congrats to nifboy!
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/4/2004 5:28:44 PM | Message Detail
Heh, turns out my tiebreaker wasn't so bad after all. I just wish I'd had Crono over Mario, that would have put me in the top 50, which would have been very cool indeed. Oh well, it's nice to have my best performance yet. Tied for 112th with 50 others is much better than I've done in previous contests, where I've always missed at least one member of the final four.
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Although being raped by Sora twice was incredibly painful, nothing can compare to being utterly destroyed by nifboy in the Guru challenge.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/4/2004 11:43:31 PM | Message Detail
And to all you potential Gurus out there, just remember, all this glory could be yours next season! All you have to do is start visiting the Stats topic during this offseason, and sign up to compete before the start of the next Contest.

And, for those stats, looks like it'll be tomorrow aft.

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From: perdevious | Posted: 10/5/2004 12:43:35 AM | Message Detail
Sig changed. I hope it's good...

*dives behind the couch*
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From: cavedog0 | Posted: 10/5/2004 12:49:13 AM | Message Detail
Is the tiebreaker going to take effect?
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/5/2004 12:57:51 AM | Message Detail
How long do we keep these sigs?
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nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm are my gods in the Guru Contest and in life. I have built shrines honoring them, for it is the least I can do.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/5/2004 1:01:29 AM | Message Detail
Two weeks.
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I am little more than a slug among the food chain that is Board 8, but perhaps if I were as cool as nifboy, that would not be the case. Congrats, nifboy! =)
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/5/2004 9:40:09 AM | Message Detail
Yes, the tiebreaker will take effect, but it can't do so until CJay gets those results online. And who knows how long that will take. So until that time, either mention all three, or just nifboy.

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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/5/2004 5:39:21 PM | Message Detail
Some neat stuff for you to look at:

Average Guru Score: 161.061
Average GameFAQs Score: 115.663

The Expert Gap, then, stands at 45.40 points for this season. Let's compare that to

The 2004 Spring Contest

Avg Guru Score: 138.129
Avg GameFAQs Score: 96.743

Expert Gap: 41.39 points. We continue to extend our lead over your average, everyday picker!

Also in the good news category is our very strong finish... thanks to the Link win, we smashed the old record by moving a full 8 Gurus into the Top 50! Whether or not that number will hold as the final Top 50, however, is still in doubt, as it is going to come down to how close TRE's tiebreaker was. But at the very least we're going to end with 7 Gurus on the Big Board, and that's just fantastic.

And now, here's a big treat... check out


The All-Time Guru Standings

Rank Name Spring Summer TOTAL

1st King Morgoth 158 189 347
2nd UltimaterializerX 185 156 341
3rd Ringworm 157 182 339
4th ChichiriMuyo 174 157 331
5th charmander 149 181 330
6th Bananaquest 169 152 321
7th Sir Chris 136 185 321
8th red sox 777 118 189 307
9th swirldude 154 151 305
10th Haste2 169 132 301
11th FastFalcon 102 183 285
12th Team Rocket Elite 91 187 278
13th Heroic Mario 137 137 274
14th Ngamer 116 157 273
15th cyko 109 152 261
16th Z1mZum 137 114 251
17th Yesmar 98 151 249
18th DomaDragoon 102 132 234
19th nifboy 0 190 190
20th ps2rulezzz 0 190 190
21st Hogasm 0 190 190
22nd KrustytheKlown 0 188 188
23rd Cavemanbob 0 188 188
24th Mac Arrowny 0 185 185
25th HaRRicH 0 185 185
26th Tai 0 184 184
27th steve illumina 0 183 183
28th fett 0 183 183
29th TyRaNuS 0 182 182
30th irriadin 0 181 181
31st WiggumFan 0 181 181
32nd Garsha 0 180 180
33rd DaruniaTheKing 0 178 178
34th Shake 171 0 171
35th Ncrdrg 171 0 171
36th nh82 170 0 170
37th Sephirot 169 0 169
38th Starion 169 0 169
39th smitelf 167 0 167
40th neoatomtaco 167 0 167
41st MMXcalibur 0 163 163
42nd yoblazer 0 163 163
43rd creativename 162 0 162
44th Smurf Thy Legend 0 161 161
45th YokeI 0 159 159
46th Rufus Shinra 0 158 158
47th BeTheMan 0 157 157
48th cavedog 0 157 157
49th perdevious 0 157 157
50th Fantusta 0 156 156
51st tnote 0 156 156
52nd FrostHarpy 0 156 156
53rd franmars 0 156 156
54th Ct. Roy Falcon 0 156 156
55th torey luvullo 155 0 155
56th TheRye 0 155 155
57th ExquisiteSamurai 0 155 155
58th Salient 0 155 155
59th Aprosenf 0 155 155
60th RamzaB 0 154 154
61st Riazar 0 154 154
62nd Alanna 0 154 154
63rd Qwaar 0 154 154
64th Steinershocker 0 153 153
65th Vietboizz 0 153 153
66th arkenaga 0 152 152
67th Haunter 0 152 152
68th Bocase 0 151 151
69th ChibiKuririn 0 151 151
70th MasterMage 0 150 150
71st Xuxon 139 0 139
72nd andaca 0 131 131
73rd jonthomson 0 128 128
74th Lt. Kettch 0 126 126
75th Dilated Chemist 0 124 124
76th solarshadow 113 0 113
77th Tarrot 0 113 113
78th StopPokingMe 106 0 106
79th IMAP 98 0 98


Congrats to Morg, who holds off close challenger Ulti for the combined Game/Character championship!

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Congrats to Guru Bracket Champs nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm (190 pts)!
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 10/5/2004 5:42:40 PM | Message Detail
The All-Time Guru Standings

Interesting. Should have shoved a bracket in for the last one, although I didn't feel qualified at the time. Even though my spring bracket was 10 points better than my summer one :-)

Still, thanks for playing, organising and everything, and if your score was worse than mine, you've got questions to ask of yourself :-)
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Jon Thomson - nifboy > me
Nominate Ridley for Summer Contest 2005
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/5/2004 5:45:30 PM | Message Detail
Damn. Had I only submitted my Spring bracket, I'd be tied for the lead. ;__;
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nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm are my gods in the Guru Contest and in life. I have built shrines honoring them, for it is the least I can do.
From: Haste2 | Posted: 10/5/2004 5:57:39 PM | Message Detail
I'm down WAY low in the rankings...

Well, that's what having Sephiroth as champ will do to ya.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/5/2004 6:06:28 PM | Message Detail
Ah yes, and here's the complete, final version of this season's Excel sheet. The new All-Time Standings and some other stats are in there, worth a look.

http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/04SumGurus.xls

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From: perdevious | Posted: 10/6/2004 12:35:20 AM | Message Detail
Cool stats. I guess you won't be updating them, if and when we find out what our tiebreakers were?
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I was pwned so badly by nifboy in the Guru contest, that I can't even tie my own boots -- Heck, I'm not even worthy of wearing them, after being pwned so badly.
From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 10/6/2004 5:44:31 AM | Message Detail
0_o had I submitted my bracket this spring, I would have 13 or 14 points more then KM.
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/6/2004 6:23:01 AM | Message Detail
Damn, I'd be in 4th place if I would have entered into the Gurus this spring! Silly me thinking this was just for elites at the time.....
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: Ringworm | Posted: 10/6/2004 6:48:00 AM | Message Detail
Didn't think I'd be third combined, especially having the final as FF7 v SMB3 last time. Suppose I did get the four semi finalists right both times though. Congrats KM, I'll pass you next time!
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Congrats TenkoStar17: Winner - SC2K4 Betting comp
nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm pwned me in the guru challenge: 190-182
From: steve illumina | Posted: 10/6/2004 8:13:02 AM | Message Detail
Very nice...now bring on the next contest Ceej!
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I may be an Elite, a Guru, an Expert even..but even I pale in worthiness to the one called nifboy this contest...
From: Cerebral Samurai | Posted: 10/6/2004 8:49:45 AM | Message Detail
I beat the Guru average score in my first contest, maybe I should sign-up next time.
From: King Morgoth | Posted: 10/6/2004 2:46:33 PM | Message Detail
The All-Time Guru Standings

Rank Name Spring Summer TOTAL

1st King Morgoth 158 189 347


If I may...

HOLY ****!
That comes as totally unexpected...there's a huge list of big names under me and I must say I never thought I'd be able to compete with all of you guys....but it's great while it lasts =)

And on a side note Ngamer, Good job with the stats this season again, you've been doing awesome work through all the contest and it's appreciated!
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SpC2k4 - Triple Crown Winner! (Spread Betting, Betting, Oracle),
Guru Masters nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm pwned me!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/6/2004 8:38:56 PM | Message Detail
lol I gain 28 places on the champion match
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Summer 2004 Contest 181/192
Congrates to Nifboy, the guru winner, who had to PWN me just to get there
From: Mumei | Posted: 10/6/2004 8:39:48 PM | Message Detail
Congratulations, King Morgoth. =)
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M-me? Queen ***** of the Universe?
This is the happiest day of my life. ~ smitelf
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/6/2004 10:40:25 PM | Message Detail
Now, those final stats are nice and everything, but it seems I can't walk two steps without someone bringing up how unfair it is that a single match is worth 32 points, and so makes everyone who didn't get the right Champ look pathetic. So taking that into account, here are some rankings that are perhaps a bit more fair...


Final Guru Standings (by correct picks)

1st ps2rulezzz 62
2nd nifboy 61
3rd Hogasm 61
4th red sox 61
5th King Morgoth 61
6th Ngamer 60
7th KrustytheKlown 60
8th Mac Arrowny 60
9th HaRRicH 60
10th ChichiriMuyo 60
11th BeTheMan 60
12th cavedog 60
13th Cavemanbob 59
14th TeamRocketElite 59
15th Tai 59
16th Fantusta 59
17th UltimaterializerX 59
18th tnote 59
19th FrostHarpy 59
20th franmars 59
21st Ct. Roy Falcon 59
22nd Steinershocker 59
23rd Sir Chris 58
24th steve illumina 58
25th fett 58
26th FastFalcon 58
27th TyRaNuS 58
28th TheRye 58
29th ExquisiteSamurai 58
30th Salient 58
31st Aprosenf 58
32nd RamzaB 58
33rd Riazar 58
34th Alanna 58
35th Qwaar 58
36th Bananaquest 58
37th arkenaga 58
38th Haunter 58
39th Yesmar 58
40th MasterMage 58
41st Heroic Mario 58
42nd Smurf Thy Legend 58
43rd MMXcalibur 58
44th irriadin 57
45th yoblazer 57
46th YokeI 57
47th Vietboizz 57
48th cyko 57
49th swirldude 57
50th Bocase 57
51st Haste2 57
52nd Ringworm 56
53rd charmander 56
54th WiggumFan 56
55th Garsha 56
56th andaca 56
57th DaruniaTheKing 55
58th perdevious 55
59th DomaDragoon 55
60th Lt. Kettch 55
61st Z1mZum 55
62nd Rufus Shinra 54
63rd Dilated Chemist 53
64th jonthomson 53
65th ChibiKuririn 51
66th Tarrot 49


Talk about some domination by ps2! Also...

Average Guru Correct Picks: 57.652

Quite impressive, I would say.

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Congrats to Guru Bracket Champs nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm (190 pts)!
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/6/2004 10:43:51 PM | Message Detail
OH YEAH! I shot WAY up in the rankings! Man, I knew that I was being totally shafted by the old ones, thanks for the update Ngamer!
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Although being raped by Sora twice was incredibly painful, nothing can compare to being utterly destroyed by nifboy in the Guru challenge.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/6/2004 10:51:29 PM | Message Detail
Mac, what matches did you miss? I can't seperate myself from you in any rankings, heh.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 10/7/2004 7:05:30 AM | Message Detail
Sora vs. HK, Sora vs. Ryu, and Mario vs. Crono. My tiebreaker was better than yours though, ~67000.
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Although being raped by Sora twice was incredibly painful, nothing can compare to being utterly destroyed by nifboy in the Guru challenge.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/7/2004 10:10:17 PM | Message Detail
Well, I COULD just archive this whole topic now, I suppose... But I think instead, I'll just slowly move it up to the 500 mark, and then log it away for good. Though, it certainly would be cool if I reached 500 sooner rather than later... maybe with a little help from my friends?

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Congrats to Guru Bracket Champs nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm (190 pts)!
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 10/7/2004 10:12:50 PM | Message Detail
I'll help you.
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I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness have consume’d me. Nifboy is an amazing, god-like diety.
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/7/2004 10:17:33 PM | Message Detail
I never do well in these, but it's always fun to try. Besides, I'd be kicking myself if by some miracle, I won but didn't enter.
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nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm > me.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/7/2004 10:20:20 PM | Message Detail
Ah, yeah it was; mine was a lil' over 70,000, but I don't remember what it was exactly. The only differences we had was Tidus/Shadow and Sora/HK-47...whoa.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/8/2004 1:23:41 PM | Message Detail
Thanks for the posts guys, almost there now. Just about 30 to go.

As long as I'm making a post, might as well include something though. Here's a convo me and smurf are having.


smurfsdabomb: What would you like in Spring. Another game contest?
Im Ngamer: YES
Im Ngamer: I think it could be good, if broken out of age divisions
Im Ngamer: last year was too easy to guess, because only 1/2 games from a given era had a chance, outside of 128
smurfsdabomb: Do you not think it is pointless? Seeing as a games popularity does not change from year to year like a characters?
Im Ngamer: but putting like Halo against... um... FF3, or whatnot
Im Ngamer: anything could happen
Im Ngamer: I think it MIGHT get pointless, but not on the 2nd time already
smurfsdabomb: A games devopler contest could be pretty cool...
smurfsdabomb: Maybe in a few years another game contest might be cool
Im Ngamer: Developer, System, all might be a little fun, but they'd have to be small...
Im Ngamer: I want games again, and I want them next year already, no questions asked
Im Ngamer: yeah yeah, FF7 will win again, but it will be fun along the way
Im Ngamer: given a mixed up bracket
Im Ngamer: ALSO
smurfsdabomb: From a CjayC point of view it makes no sense!
Im Ngamer: games is the only tourney I could justify bringing out to 128
smurfsdabomb: 4 months of a contest?
Im Ngamer: characters start sucking in the 60s already... but you could easily get 128 good games
smurfsdabomb: You need to have a certain amount of fodder in every contest
Im Ngamer: I'm thinking more of a poll/sponsored poll sitting next to each other, like we saw a couple times last contest
Im Ngamer: except both being best games polls
Im Ngamer: then dropping to just one match a day in the latter rounds
Im Ngamer: should be a more reasonable length
Im Ngamer: but just an idea... even just 64 again would be fun
Im Ngamer: why wouldn't CJay think it makes sense?
smurfsdabomb: IMO the spring contest was a disaster
Im Ngamer: WHAT?
Im Ngamer: because of what, SC?
smurfsdabomb: It wouldn't make sense because in spring 2004 he asked the question "what is the best game ever?"
smurfsdabomb: The question was answered so why ask it again?
smurfsdabomb: No it sucked because of the amount of games from certain series
smurfsdabomb: A final 4 of just LOZ was well possible
Im Ngamer: but with a mixed bracket, it wouldn't be
Im Ngamer: and if he keeps a strict 4 games per series limit
Im Ngamer: or actually, could take that down to 3... get a little more diverse
smurfsdabomb: 4 games per series is too much
smurfsdabomb: 2 would be better
Im Ngamer: yeah, I agree

Im Ngamer: anyways, that's my reason for wanting to see a Game Contest so badly, because it would be really cool until the final match, given a good bracket
smurfsdabomb: I can't really see it happening though
Im Ngamer: and I think popularity can change from year to year... like, there's no way Soul Calibur could have put up such a fight against KH if not for SC2
smurfsdabomb: Hard to know. SC did get nominated while SC2 did not
Im Ngamer: and Mario 3 was helped by its GBA re-release, probably LttP was as well
Im Ngamer: see, there's another thing
Im Ngamer: let's see it again, with a far better nomination system
smurfsdabomb: It's also hard to compare games from different eras
Im Ngamer: see? you make another point for the Contest, let's mix it up and see what happens
Im Ngamer: will SNES really dominate as much as some think? can PSX hold it's own outside of FF7? etc
Im Ngamer: with a nomination system where you put in your Top Ten games, it'd be the best contest since Sum '03

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Congrats to Guru Bracket Champs nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm (190 pts)!
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From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 10/8/2004 1:30:01 PM | Message Detail
As I've mentioned repeatedly, I think the best thing to do for another SpC would be 64 all new games. Yes, it would screw over the extraps, but it's be just as interesting as the first one, especially since the two games most likely to win in 2K4 wouldn't be there, opening up the field.
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Season 12 has come to a close, and Team Myria faces off against Team Fou-Lu at www.rpgdl.com!
nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm > me.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/8/2004 1:36:32 PM | Message Detail
I could see FF8 or Diablo 2 win it all if we only had games that didn't make it last year. That'd be very interesting.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/8/2004 1:56:19 PM | Message Detail
See, you guys make another good point for my case. When it comes to Games, you could come up with a whole 'nother 64, and still have a somewhat decent Contest. Try doing the same with Characters... it just couldn't happen (without all kinds of sucking). That's why I say that even expanding out to 128 games would be a possibility that could be pretty cool. Again, is it going to do anything to stop Ocarina/FF7 from being the Championship? No, but would still make for a heck of a lot of tough bracket-making decisions along the way.

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Congrats to Guru Bracket Champs nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm (190 pts)!
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From: Sins Tox1n | Posted: 10/8/2004 4:58:11 PM | Message Detail
I wish I'd entered. My 173+188>Morgoth's score.
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Spring Contest Final score: 173/192 Tied for 110th
Summer Contest Final Score: 188/192 Tied for 23rd
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/8/2004 11:08:26 PM | Message Detail
Hm... kind of strange how nearly any other topic will become flooded with nonsense and quick posts after about the 450 mark, and yet non-Gurus continue to respect/ignore our Scoreboard enough to not end things out with a race to 500.

But to stay somewhat on topic, which of these three would you most like to see this coming Spring:

- a 2nd Great Game Contest
- a Best Developer Contest
- a Best System Contest
- an offseason continuing into a Summer of Character Battle IV

I'd vote for Games.

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Congrats to Guru Bracket Champs nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm (190 pts)!
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From: MasterMage119 | Posted: 10/8/2004 11:09:45 PM | Message Detail
Great Game.
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I bow down to smitelf, Queen ***** of the Universe. Her intelligence, wit, and sexiness have consume’d me. Nifboy is an amazing, god-like diety.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 10/8/2004 11:16:42 PM | Message Detail
I would also vote for a game contest. The winner is etched in stone, yes, but there are many great games that still haven't had a chance to show their stuff.
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nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm are my gods in the Guru Contest and in life. I have built shrines honoring them, for it is the least I can do.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/8/2004 11:29:45 PM | Message Detail
Game contest with all new entrants.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: ps2rulezzz | Posted: 10/9/2004 4:42:41 AM | Message Detail
I agree with the above people, and the reason this topic isn't flooded is because the more serious people come here, and want those stats topic here for a little longer. If it gets to 500 so fast, it gets deleted to fast.
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190/192 points in sc2004
tiebrakowned by nifboy
From: Ringworm | Posted: 10/9/2004 6:18:42 AM | Message Detail
If I had to choose, I'd say a best game series contest. It'd probably come down to FF vs LoZ, but there are plenty of others in with a shot (Mario, sonic, mega man, metroid, Metal Gear, Grand Theft Auto etc, etc.)
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Congrats TenkoStar17: Winner - SC2K4 Betting comp
nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm pwned me in the guru challenge: 190-182
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/9/2004 1:00:17 PM | Message Detail
Best series would be interesting, but I would have next to no doubt that Final Fantasy would win that. I would be very intrigued to see who would win if there was a MGS/GTA match.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: A Hogasm IN POG FORM | Posted: 10/9/2004 4:11:09 PM | Message Detail
Man, I totally forgot I entered this thing! This is a good sig, right?
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Tiebreaker'd by the great nifboy in the Guru challenge!
You have the best username I have ever seen. Make love to me.-Bloofy Score: 190/192
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/9/2004 4:19:14 PM | Message Detail
Try "bloody" instead of "bloofy", and you got a good sig. =P
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: A Hogasm IN POG FORM | Posted: 10/9/2004 4:38:14 PM | Message Detail
That was the guy's username, but come to think of it, it may have been a spelling mistake on his part.
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Tiebreaker'd by the great nifboy in the Guru challenge!
You have the best username I have ever seen. Make love to me.-Bloofy Score: 190/192
From: Bananaquest | Posted: 10/9/2004 4:56:38 PM | Message Detail
Greetings, gurus! I have not posted much, but I haven't forgot about the Guru Challenge. Hats off to nifboy and all the 48 gurus who finished ahead of me.
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BQ Bracket SC2k4: nifboy'd! and further destroyed by fellow gurus ps2rulezzz and Hogasm.
BQ Final Score: 152/192. In 5948th place. Yay!
From: Bananaquest | Posted: 10/10/2004 10:26:33 AM | Message Detail
- a 2nd Great Game Contest

The best choice among the four, provided that there are lots of new game entries to make it more unpredictable and interesting.

- a Best Developer Contest

Would be boring until the finals (Nintendo vs. Square Enix).

- a Best System Contest

Super NES will win this one.

- an offseason continuing into a Summer of Character Battle IV

Only forces me to lurk even longer. :)

Best. Game. Ever II gets my vote.
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BQ Bracket SC2k4: nifboy'd! and further destroyed by fellow gurus ps2rulezzz and Hogasm.
BQ Final Score: 152/192. In 5948th place. Yay!
From: Aprosenf | Posted: 10/10/2004 10:35:11 AM | Message Detail
I sorta disappeared sporadically once the contest ended, but I will hold up the bet.
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Even with my new-and-maybe-improved extrapolated stats formula, I got PWN-INATE'D by nifboy in the summer contest
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/10/2004 7:07:17 PM | Message Detail
Ah, I thought ya means to say "Bloody Score: 190/192", heh.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/11/2004 12:09:14 AM | Message Detail
Another Great Game Contest seems the dominant choice so far, and I'm quite glad to see it. And I agree BQ, there's plenty of room for good new games to make the cut... I think all it would take would be a switch to a Your Top Ten nomination system, and things would work themselves out near flawlessly. The only thing that makes me a bit nervous about this upcoming Spring is that I'm almost positive StarCraft, WarCraft III, and Diablo II will all be making it into the field of 64... Not that they aren't deserving, but I just don't know what to think about the havoc they're sure to cause.

And with that, 13 posts remain...

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From: Salient | Posted: 10/11/2004 12:18:36 AM | Message Detail
Why is everyone assuming there's going to be another best game ever contest this Spring?
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Good God I suck at these contests compared to Nifboy
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/12/2004 5:41:17 PM | Message Detail
Not everyone is assuming it... in fact, I'm pretty sure it's just me. And I assume that because I always assume things are going to turn out for the best. And so far in my life I've usually been right.

11 posts remain...

*sheds a single tear*

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/12/2004 5:45:07 PM | Message Detail
I feel confident in another Best. Game. Ever. contest being held.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: King Morgoth | Posted: 10/12/2004 6:05:54 PM | Message Detail
Not that they aren't deserving, but I just don't know what to think about the havoc they're sure to cause.

Maybe it's because I'm not admissible to win, but the havoc that they would cause would bring a smile to my face and a tear to my eye. Seriously... imagine for a second...Starcraft taking the lead against FFVII...the board would go crazier than it has ever been. And most people (who don't take this contest too seriously) agree that Starcraft's wins was the greatest contest moment ever. Having SC and two smaller powerhouses would give us one hell of a show!
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SpC2k4 - Triple Crown Winner! (Spread Betting, Betting, Oracle),
Guru Masters nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm pwned me!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/12/2004 6:14:27 PM | Message Detail
I'd love for a division to have this set-up...

1-SMB3
5-Starcraft
4-Diablo 2
3-Final Fantasy 3/6
2-Halo (or Halo 2, whichever)

...that would be a mess.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/12/2004 8:40:09 PM | Message Detail
This is gonna hit 500, and it's gonna hit it tonight.

Gurus, it's been fun as hell. Hope to see ya'll next contest.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 10/12/2004 8:50:39 PM | Message Detail
Yup, another fun season, that it surely was.

And if I were making the bracket, I'd try to get the big three Blizzard games together into one Division, and let them go to war with each other there. Like I said, I just worry a little bit about them... I mean, I hate to bring up the 'C-word,' but we DO know for a fact that major cheating was pulled off in the Melee match by at least one SC fan. And it's also been revealed that there was massive cheating in order to allow Diablo II to advance beyond StarCraft over in gamespy.com's tourney earlier this year. So you have to admit there's kind of a history there... but as has been said, it adds to the drama and all that.

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Congrats to Guru Bracket Champs nifboy, ps2rulezz, and Hogasm (190 pts)!
Ngamer's Contest Archives: geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/12/2004 8:54:56 PM | Message Detail
Exactly; let Diablo 2 and Starcraft duke it out in the second round, and let the winner have a shot at the aging Super Mario Bros. 3, heh. Tell me that wouldn't get hyped and have some upset potential.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: fallenstar | Posted: 10/12/2004 8:55:07 PM | Message Detail
I remember playing SC 3vs3with anti map hack a few years back.
It took 2 hours for me to find a game where no one was using map hack.
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"Truly,if there is evil in this world,
it lies within the heart of mankind."-Dhaos
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/12/2004 8:56:11 PM | Message Detail
Sad but true: when I used to play Starcraft, for a while I used to be one of them. No more now though.
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/12/2004 8:58:17 PM | Message Detail
Someone will need to archive this soon.
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I am little more than a slug among the food chain that is Board 8, but perhaps if I were as cool as nifboy, that would not be the case. Congrats, nifboy! =)
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/12/2004 8:58:27 PM | Message Detail
Like, totally.
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I am little more than a slug among the food chain that is Board 8, but perhaps if I were as cool as nifboy, that would not be the case. Congrats, nifboy! =)
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 10/12/2004 8:58:35 PM | Message Detail
500!
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Question: Who owned some major ass in the Guru Prediction Contest?
Answer: Nifboy, fools...nifboy.
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